Re: non-free firmware

2006-01-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 08:13:18PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: current fact is that the qlaxxx firmware is gpl, so on has all it's right in main. It is GPL, except for the binary blob of firmware, as the two constitute separate work, this is not a violation of the GPL. The exact licence, that

Re: -doc packages for removed software

2006-01-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 06:42:28PM +0100, Thomas Viehmann wrote: casually browsing the rc bug list, I noticed that while ploticus has been removed from testing, ploticus-doc still is in there[1]. Obviously it's not too useful to ship etch with ploticus-doc if the main package isn't included.

Re: non-free firmware in the linux kernel

2006-01-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 11:03:13PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: In 2004, there was a GR that decided to put everything in main under the DFSG. We had some discussions, but in the end, the result was that all the non-free firmware bits have to be removed from main before we can release etch.

Re: non-free firmware in the linux kernel

2006-01-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 02:52:07AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: b) we move the affected modules to non-free. Well those that have their licencing solved, the others will simply no more be distributed, or distributed form an unofficial source. Probably overkill, and causes

Re: sparc buildd issues [Re: Release candidate architecture requalification results; amd64 is RC]

2006-01-10 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 02:18:43PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: sparc will be removed from consideration until we no longer have to worry about OpenOffice builds (or other intensive package builds) crashing the buildd machines. I have a few Ultra5 machines available, as well as sufficient

Re: non-free firmware in the linux kernel

2006-01-10 Thread Kyle McMartin
3) an effort seems to be happening inside the upstream kernel to use the request_firmware infrastructure which allows to load firmware code from userland through an hotplug mechanism. There seem to be more and more drivers going this way, since there aare more in current git than

Re: non-free firmware in the linux kernel

2006-01-10 Thread Andreas Barth
* Kyle McMartin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060110 16:20]: I would argue it's the former. I can see the argument when it's a part of the source code, but not when it's a completely seperate entity. Sorry, but there is no difference regarding DFSG: If the binary blob is actually seperated from the

Re: non-free firmware

2006-01-10 Thread Bill Allombert
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 01:45:11AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: You may redistribute the hardware specific firmware binary file under the following terms: 1. Redistribution of source code (only if applicable), must retain the above copyright notice, this list of

Re: non-free firmware

2006-01-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 11:38:21AM -0600, Bill Allombert wrote: On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 01:45:11AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: You may redistribute the hardware specific firmware binary file under the following terms: 1. Redistribution of source code (only if applicable),

Re: Developer accessible SPARC machine

2006-01-10 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 11:42:14PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: That'd be DSA's call; but given that it probably wouldn't be sufficient, it also seems unnecessary, so I guess it would be a low priority. You could always make a standing offer of individual accounts to DDs (or non-DDs, as we

Re: non-free firmware in the linux kernel

2006-01-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 10:00:53AM -0500, Kyle McMartin wrote: 3) an effort seems to be happening inside the upstream kernel to use the request_firmware infrastructure which allows to load firmware code from userland through an hotplug mechanism. There seem to be more and more

Re: non-free firmware in the linux kernel

2006-01-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 05:19:47PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: * Kyle McMartin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060110 16:20]: I would argue it's the former. I can see the argument when it's a part of the source code, but not when it's a completely seperate entity. Sorry, but there is no difference

Please allow dhcp3 into testing

2006-01-10 Thread Andrew Pollock
yadda yadda yadda (really must stop making that udeb) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Please allow dhcp3 into testing

2006-01-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 01:38:51PM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: yadda yadda yadda Hint yadded. Cheers, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED]