Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:51:02AM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: > Sprint > -- > We feel it would be useful for the Release Team as a whole to get > together to think about what the plans are for the next release. As > such, we're planning a sprint to meet in person. Details will follow > once di

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:28:43PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > - be less strict and keep old binaries (and thus 2 versions of the same > > source package) in testing. This applies in particular for libraries > > going through SONAME changes and which can happily coexist during a > > tran

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-29 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, sorry that I'm late to this party and that this mail is mostly an AOL... On Mittwoch, 30. März 2011, Luk Claes wrote: > # package quality > Advocate: Holger Levsen and Luk Claes > State: confirmed > Wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/PackagesQuality > > This is a never ending go

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-17 Thread Hector Oron
Hi, Could you please add some background information to < http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals > ? In my case, I am not sure if that wiki page is to make a wish or wishes that have already been agreed and granted. Some of you might know that there is an on-going effort to port Debian to A

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
(Moving to -devel, since -release is not a discussion list, and keeping lots of context because of this) Hi, On Sun, 10 Apr 2011, sean finney wrote: > I think the quality of our releases has always been stellar, but the > freezes cause quite a bit of slowdown and even demotivation for those > who

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-12 Thread Michael Gilbert
sean finney wrote: > hi -release team, > > On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 10:13:19AM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: > > > Once again, we will use feedb...@release.debian.org and welcome all > > > comments before 11th April. > > > > > > > We've had a rather poor response to this request, so I'd encourage

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-10 Thread sean finney
hi -release team, On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 10:13:19AM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: > > Once again, we will use feedb...@release.debian.org and welcome all > > comments before 11th April. > > > > We've had a rather poor response to this request, so I'd encourage > anyone who's been putting it off t

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-09 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 01:28:01PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I propose the following additions: > > 1) No uninstallable packages, according to their dependencies, are > > 2) No packages with (detectable) conflicts are shipped as part of a After Ralf's ack to document them for Wheezy,

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-03-31 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 31.03.2011 14:35, schrieb Yves-Alexis Perez: > On jeu., 2011-03-31 at 14:30 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: >> Xfce 4.8 (for the most part) doesn't rely on hal anymore, at least on Linux. >> Yves-Alexis, what is the fallback on kfreebsd? Does Xfce 4.8 on kfreebsd >> still >> require hal or will it

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-03-31 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On jeu., 2011-03-31 at 14:30 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > Xfce 4.8 (for the most part) doesn't rely on hal anymore, at least on Linux. > Yves-Alexis, what is the fallback on kfreebsd? Does Xfce 4.8 on kfreebsd still > require hal or will it just have reduced functionality? > On BSD it's reduced f

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-03-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
[ Bcc: -release to keep track of the actual proposals ] On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 07:21:08PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: > # package quality > Advocate: Holger Levsen and Luk Claes > State: confirmed > Wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/PackagesQuality > > This is a never ending goal of su

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-03-30 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 30.03.2011 19:21, schrieb Luk Claes: > Regarding reliability I'm doing some work regarding NFS, though one of > the main outstanding issues is the race between availability of the > network devices and the end of the network init script AFAICS. It would > also not be a bad idea to have a discuss

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-03-30 Thread Michael Tautschnig
Hi all, [...] > # package quality > Advocate: Holger Levsen and Luk Claes > State: confirmed > Wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/PackagesQuality > > This is a never ending goal of sustaining our packages quality by > improving our tests and following up closely... so needless to sa

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-03-30 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 30 mars 2011 à 19:21 +0200, Luk Claes a écrit : > # remove obsolete libraries > Advocate: Barry deFreese and Luk Claes > State: confirmed > Wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/RemoveOldLibs > > This worked quite well and should continue so we can get rid of obsolete > libra

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-03-30 Thread Luk Claes
Hi Below an update of the release goals I advocated and some thoughts on others. > Release Goals > - > As a first step towards establishing release goals for wheezy, we will be reviewing > each of the goals which we had for squeeze [RDO:SGoals] to see which have been achieved and whic