Re: Request for release team decision on MySQL and MariaDB [was: Re: Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6]

2016-02-02 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 01:51:36PM +0100, Norvald H. Ryeng wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 20:39:52 +0100, Moritz Mühlenhoff > wrote: > > >On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 04:09:58PM +0100, Norvald H. Ryeng wrote: > >>so I'll need the complete list of > >>requirements first. The Debian MySQL team has asked f

Re: Request for release team decision on MySQL and MariaDB [was: Re: Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6]

2016-02-02 Thread Norvald H. Ryeng
On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 20:39:52 +0100, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 04:09:58PM +0100, Norvald H. Ryeng wrote: so I'll need the complete list of requirements first. The Debian MySQL team has asked for a list, in writing, several times now, but that list has not been produced.

Re: Request for release team decision on MySQL and MariaDB [was: Re: Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6]

2016-01-29 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 04:09:58PM +0100, Norvald H. Ryeng wrote: > so I'll need the complete list of > requirements first. The Debian MySQL team has asked for a list, in > writing, several times now, but that list has not been produced. Here's what it essentially boils down to: - Public, non-dis

Re: Request for release team decision on MySQL and MariaDB [was: Re: Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6]

2016-01-15 Thread Norvald H. Ryeng
On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 22:11:22 +0100, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 08:14:06PM +, Robie Basak wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 07:27:30PM +0100, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > *Sigh*. And that is exactly the problem (and we've already pointed this > out at DebConf half a ye

Re: Request for release team decision on MySQL and MariaDB [was: Re: Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6]

2016-01-15 Thread Robie Basak
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 10:11:22PM +0100, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > This is EOD from my side. This has all been discussed to death and > I won't spend further time on this. I agree that this has come up many times, but no, this has not been discussed to death. Every time it comes up, all we ever

Re: Request for release team decision on MySQL and MariaDB [was: Re: Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6]

2016-01-14 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 08:14:06PM +, Robie Basak wrote: > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 07:27:30PM +0100, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > > *Sigh*. And that is exactly the problem (and we've already pointed this > > out at DebConf half a year ago) > > > > We should really go ahead and move forward, the

Re: Request for release team decision on MySQL and MariaDB [was: Re: Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6]

2016-01-11 Thread Robie Basak
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 08:13:56PM +0100, Salvatore Bonaccorso wrote: > > MySQL is maintained in jessie. What makes you think it's not? > > My gut feeling is that this is not true, I'm sorry. All recent updates > were prepared by the security team itself due to this. And most of > the recent upda

Re: Request for release team decision on MySQL and MariaDB [was: Re: Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6]

2016-01-11 Thread Robie Basak
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 07:27:30PM +0100, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > *Sigh*. And that is exactly the problem (and we've already pointed this > out at DebConf half a year ago) > > We should really go ahead and move forward, the freeze isn't terribly far > away. I don't think it's reasonable to us

Re: Request for release team decision on MySQL and MariaDB [was: Re: Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6]

2016-01-11 Thread Salvatore Bonaccorso
Hi, On Thu, Jan 07, 2016 at 03:49:15PM +0100, Norvald H. Ryeng wrote: > On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 22:31:05 +0100, Robie Basak > wrote: > > >Here are the enumerated concerns of the release team for MySQL in > >Debian given to us in yesterday's meeting: > > I'll address each concern separately. Since I

Re: Request for release team decision on MySQL and MariaDB [was: Re: Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6]

2016-01-11 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 02:13:40PM +0100, Norvald H. Ryeng wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 13:59:07 +0100, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > > >2016-01-11 13:54 GMT+02:00 Norvald H. Ryeng : > >>On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 13:28:18 +0100, Otto Kekäläinen > >>wrote: > >> > >>>Hello! > >>> > >>>2015-12-23 16:39 GMT+02

Re: Request for release team decision on MySQL and MariaDB [was: Re: Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6]

2016-01-11 Thread Norvald H. Ryeng
On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 13:59:07 +0100, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: 2016-01-11 13:54 GMT+02:00 Norvald H. Ryeng : On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 13:28:18 +0100, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: Hello! 2015-12-23 16:39 GMT+02:00 Norvald H. Ryeng : .. I know we are a bit tight with info about security issues upstream

Re: Request for release team decision on MySQL and MariaDB [was: Re: Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6]

2016-01-11 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
2016-01-11 13:54 GMT+02:00 Norvald H. Ryeng : > On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 13:28:18 +0100, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > >> Hello! >> >> 2015-12-23 16:39 GMT+02:00 Norvald H. Ryeng : >> .. >>> >>> I know we are a bit tight with info about security issues upstream, but >>> all >>> security bugfixes are availab

Re: Request for release team decision on MySQL and MariaDB [was: Re: Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6]

2016-01-11 Thread Norvald H. Ryeng
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 13:28:18 +0100, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: Hello! 2015-12-23 16:39 GMT+02:00 Norvald H. Ryeng : .. I know we are a bit tight with info about security issues upstream, but all security bugfixes are available at https://github.com/mysql/mysql-server as individual commits, and

Re: Request for release team decision on MySQL and MariaDB [was: Re: Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6]

2015-12-28 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello! 2015-12-23 16:39 GMT+02:00 Norvald H. Ryeng : .. > I know we are a bit tight with info about security issues upstream, but all > security bugfixes are available at https://github.com/mysql/mysql-server as > individual commits, and a list of CVEs fixed is reported quarterly according > to a

Re: Request for release team decision on MySQL and MariaDB [was: Re: Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6]

2015-12-23 Thread Norvald H. Ryeng
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 22:31:05 +0100, Robie Basak wrote: (removing Jonathan specifically; the debian-release ML should be sufficient as this is for the release team generally now) On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 05:45:24PM +, Robie Basak wrote: Can I ask that this request (for the release team to

Re: Request for release team decision on MySQL and MariaDB [was: Re: Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6]

2015-12-18 Thread Robie Basak
(removing Jonathan specifically; the debian-release ML should be sufficient as this is for the release team generally now) On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 05:45:24PM +, Robie Basak wrote: > Can I ask that this request (for the release team to make a decision > between the choices I outlined[1]) be tab

Request for release team decision on MySQL and MariaDB [was: Re: Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6]

2015-12-14 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Jonathan, Dropping the bug from this thread since that bug is done and adding the general debian-release list instead. I think that a release team decision is still outstanding. The background is archived at https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=793316. On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 10:0

Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6

2015-09-18 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 10:09:38PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: > Without wanting to point fingers, a significant source of opposition to > shipping more than one variant is the security team (with, IMO, fairly good > reasoning). In general the release team respects the wishes of the security >

Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6

2015-09-16 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 11:11:12AM +0100, Robie Basak wrote: > On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 11:03:28PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: > > > The wish of the release team and security team has been to keep just > > > one MySQL variant. If such a decision is made, it must be made above > > > the pkg-mysq

Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6

2015-09-14 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
2015-09-14 13:11 GMT+03:00 Robie Basak : > The Debian MySQL Maintainers team is prepared to do option 1, but it > seems you are not. I do not consider any of the other options to be > acceptable. For the record, I support Robie on this. The packages mysql and mariadb have been designed to co-exist

Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6

2015-09-14 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 11:03:28PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: > > The wish of the release team and security team has been to keep just > > one MySQL variant. If such a decision is made, it must be made above > > the pkg-mysql-maint team as the team will never be able to agree which > > favour

Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6

2015-09-08 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 12:06:02AM +0300, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > 2015-07-23 13:15 GMT+03:00 Robie Basak : > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:59:15AM +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > >> Didn't we agree that we would release Stretch with only mariadb? When do > >> you > >> plan to start working

Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6

2015-07-25 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Vincent Bernat's message of 2015-07-25 05:28:15 -0700: > ❦ 23 juillet 2015 07:17 -0700, Clint Byrum  : > > > I'd be interested to hear the security team's impressions on how shipping > > micro releases of MySQL has gone for them. They've been doing most if not > > all of the work, a

Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6

2015-07-25 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 23 juillet 2015 07:17 -0700, Clint Byrum  : > I'd be interested to hear the security team's impressions on how shipping > micro releases of MySQL has gone for them. They've been doing most if not > all of the work, and I haven't seen bug reports flying in about those > updates, so I suspect our

Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6

2015-07-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 5:06 AM, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > The wish of the release team and security team has been to keep just > one MySQL variant. If such a decision is made, it must be made above > the pkg-mysql-maint team as the team will never be able to agree which > favourite is the best one

Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6

2015-07-23 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
2015-07-23 13:15 GMT+03:00 Robie Basak : > On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:59:15AM +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: >> Didn't we agree that we would release Stretch with only mariadb? When do you >> plan to start working on that so we can drop mysql-* from testing? > > No, that was never agreed. I'm

Re: Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6

2015-07-23 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Clint Byrum schrieb: > I'd be interested to hear the security team's impressions on how shipping > micro releases of MySQL has gone for them. We're planning to discuss that at DebConf (and will also include the release team). > Sure they have a _ridiculous_ policy about not telling us what > the

Bug#793316: [debian-mysql] Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6

2015-07-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Emilio Pozuelo Monfort's message of 2015-07-23 01:59:15 -0700: > On 22/07/15 21:24, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > > Package: release.debian.org > > User: release.debian@packages.debian.org > > Usertags: transition > > Severity: normal > > X-Debbugs-Cc: pkg-mysql-ma...@lists.alioth.deb