Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-12 Thread Matthias Klose
Alexander Reichle-Schmehl schrieb: > The integration of OpenJDK, a free version of Sun's Java technology, > into Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 made it possible to ship Java based > applications in Debians "main" repository. It is worth mentioning OpenJDK in Debian, but the conclusion is plain wrong and doe

Re: Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-12 Thread Marcus Lundblad
Yes, I agress it is a good idea to have the versioning of the next release desided alread at release time for release notes. I was just a bit used to get to wonder about that a bit until release, making guesses, betting etc. :) //Marcus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-release-requ...@lists.

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2009-02-11 16:43, Marcus Lundblad wrote: > Should squeeze be referred to as 6.0 already? > Wouldn't that be decided later? That has been announced by Adeodato Simó on 2009-01-28. It's a good idea to decide both release (number) and code name one release ahead for stuff like release notes, right

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Marcus Lundblad
Hi I found this in the release notes: 4.10. Deprecated packages With the next release of Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 (codenamed squeeze)    a bigger number of server packages will be deprecated, thus updating to newer versions of those now will save you from trouble when updating to 6.

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Luk Claes schrieb: >> Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 Lenny to Thiemo Seufer, a Debian >> Developer who died on December 26th, 2008 in a tragic car accident. > There seems to be a part of the sentence missing... Thanks, fixed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Luk Claes
Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: === Dedication Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 Lenny to Thiemo Seufer, a Debian Developer who died on December 26th, 2008 in a tragic car accident. There seems to be a part of the sentence missing... Cheers Luk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-release-requ...@

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
[ dropping some lists from CC since the involved people are either subscribed somewhere else or BCCed ] Alexander Reichle-Schmehl schrieb: > The most current version may be found in a private subversion repository > (to avoid conflicts when using the wiki). You can get the most recent > versio

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Cyril Brulebois
W. Martin Borgert (10/02/2009): > On 2009-02-10 20:54, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > > What about: > > > > ... and more than 23,000 other packages ready to use software packages > > (build from over 12,000 source packages). built? Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2009-02-10 20:54, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > What about: > > ... and more than 23,000 other packages ready to use software packages > (build from over 12,000 source packages). Perfect! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-release-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe"

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2009-02-10 11:32, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Dienstag, 10. Februar 2009, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > > We could propably change aptitude into apt-get by a simple > > search and replace in the release notes. > > I think it would be better to explicitly mention this change. Granted, many > people n

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! W. Martin Borgert schrieb: > It's difficult to change all occurrences at the same time. Why > not start with the release announcement and explicitly say 1x000 > *source* packages? Let's change it in other documents/pages when > we're at them. Counting binary packages feels a little bit like >

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Dienstag, 10. Februar 2009, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > We could propably change aptitude into apt-get by a simple > search and replace in the release notes. I think it would be better to explicitly mention this change. Granted, many people never switched to aptitude, but for those who did

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2009-02-10 18:50, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > Yes the 23'000 are the binary packages for i386. Oh, I better correct that > to 22'000 to reflect other archs, too. > > I took the number of binary packages, because we usually take the number of > binary packages. It was in the last announc

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! W. Martin Borgert schrieb: > Maybe I overlooked it, but I suggest to mention: > > - Debian Live > - Emdebian > - Blu-ray > - Netbooks/EEE PC > > One sentence each, written by a native speaker (i.e. not me! ha!) All these got mentioned (by now). Not sure about: > - SELinux > - OpenVZ Don

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! Adeodato Simó schrieb: > Hey, Alexander, thanks for your work here! Some minor comments follow: Thanks for the feedback; I applied your changes / added FIXME so I won't forget them. >> Hypervisor 3.2.1, OpenJDK 6b11 and more than 23,000 other ready to use >> software packages. > > I don't

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Daniel Baumann
Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > I've been busy at work and will update the draft in the evening including > your change (as well as the other changes in the thread). good to know, thanks. -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: daniel.baum...@pa

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! Daniel Baumann schrieb: > Daniel Baumann wrote: >> jup. therefore, please include the following paragraph below the >> "Debian GNU/Linux can be installed [...]" paragraph: > > [...] > > haven't seen a commit of that to your draft, has this been > lost/forgotton or are there any problems with

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Daniel Baumann
Daniel Baumann wrote: > jup. therefore, please include the following paragraph below the > "Debian GNU/Linux can be installed [...]" paragraph: [...] haven't seen a commit of that to your draft, has this been lost/forgotton or are there any problems with the paragraph? -- Address:Daniel

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Zitat von "Julien Cristau" : I don't think recommending its use in the release notes for etch->lenny is a good idea at all. We could propably change aptitude into apt-get by a simple search and replace in the release notes. (Not globally, there are some cases, where this is not possible. At som

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 23:17 +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > Note, that the release notes still recommend aptitude (which > I never used, so I'm neither pro nor contra), because it was > agreed on for the etch release notes and the bug #411280 is > still open. I would be happy if we (better late t

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Zitat von "Steve Langasek" : This is not a matter for you to decide by fiat. The tools recommended in the release notes should be the ones that work most reliably for dist-upgrading from the previous release. Based on various upgrade reports I've seen over the past year, that isn't aptitude.

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 11:07:28PM +0200, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: > Ben Finney wrote: > > Adeodato Simó writes: > >>> Upgrades [… are automatically handled by the aptitude package > >>> management tool for most configurations, and to a certain degree > >>> also by the apt-get package managemen

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Steve Langasek wrote: >> The preferred tool is aptitude. > > This is not a matter for you to decide by fiat. The tools recommended in > the release notes should be the ones that work most reliably for > dist-upgrading from the previous release. Based on various upgrade reports > I've seen over t

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Ben Finney wrote: > Adeodato Simó writes: > >>> Upgrades [… are automatically handled by the aptitude package >>> management tool for most configurations, and to a certain degree >>> also by the apt-get package management tool. >> This should be consistent with the Release Notes. I haven't been >

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Ben Finney
Adeodato Simó writes: > > Upgrades [… are automatically handled by the aptitude package > > management tool for most configurations, and to a certain degree > > also by the apt-get package management tool. > > This should be consistent with the Release Notes. I haven't been > tracking the releva

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
On 2009-02-09, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --040603030801070601030404 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > [ Sorry for the cross post; just trying to make sure everyone is aware of >

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Marcus Lundblad
> The Debian Project is pleased to announce the official release of > Debian GNU/Linux version 5.0, codenamed etch, after 22 months of Hmm, shouldn't that be: "codenamed lenny" :-) and > Also beginning with Debian GNU/Linux 4.0, the package management > system > has been improved regarding secu

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Graham Cobb
On Monday 09 February 2009 13:19:06 Adeodato Simó wrote: > > Support for Macromedias Flash format is available via the swfdec plugin. > > Should Gnash be mentioned here? Is it ready for such a high profile > mention? (Maintainers Bcc'ed.) I believe this would have to be (replace (R) with the regis

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread David Paleino
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:41:12 +0100, Daniel Baumann wrote: > W. Martin Borgert wrote: > > Maybe I overlooked it, but I suggest to mention: > > > > - Debian Live > > jup. therefore, please include the following paragraph below the > "Debian GNU/Linux can be installed [...]" paragraph: > > In addi

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Daniel Baumann
W. Martin Borgert wrote: > Maybe I overlooked it, but I suggest to mention: > > - Debian Live jup. therefore, please include the following paragraph below the "Debian GNU/Linux can be installed [...]" paragraph: In addition to the regular installation media, Debian GNU/Linux can now also be dire

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread debian
Govern Subject: Re: Draft for lenny release announcement On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 11:15:23AM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > Debian GNU/Linux runs on computers ranging from palmtops and handheld > systems to supercomputers, and on nearly everything in between. A total > of

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Martin Bagge / brother
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, David Paleino wrote: processors. The old ARM port (arm) is now depreceated. ^^^ s/depreceated/deprecated/ But... has it really been deprecated? Didn't know that :P According to the release notes it will be in Lenny but no

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Adeodato Simó
Hey, Alexander, thanks for your work here! Some minor comments follow: > supports a total of eleven processor architectures As per Riku's comment about armel being missing, this should be 12. > A total of eleven architectures are supported including: Same here. > Support for Macromedias Flash

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread David Paleino
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:46:55 +0200, Riku Voipio wrote: > On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 11:15:23AM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > > Debian GNU/Linux runs on computers ranging from palmtops and handheld > > systems to supercomputers, and on nearly everything in between. A total > > of eleven ar

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Riku Voipio
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 11:15:23AM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > Debian GNU/Linux runs on computers ranging from palmtops and handheld > systems to supercomputers, and on nearly everything in between. A total > of eleven architectures are supported including: Sun SPARC (sparc), HP > A

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Zitat von "Alexander Reichle-Schmehl" : [ Sorry for the cross post; just trying to make sure everyone is aware of the current state ] Maybe I overlooked it, but I suggest to mention: - Debian Live - Emdebian - Blu-ray - SELinux - OpenVZ - Netbooks/EEE PC One sentence each, written by a nati

Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
[ Sorry for the cross post; just trying to make sure everyone is aware of the current state ] Hi! Attached you'll find the current draft of the announcement for the lenny release. Based upon the announcement for the last release it's far from ready :( Especially the second and third paragraph