Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-13 Thread dann frazier
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 03:41:42PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: > On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 06:50:36PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: > > The exceptions are: > > * linux-kernel-di-powerpc appears to require a 2.4 build host - I've > >poked around looking for help here, but no volunteers yet. > > Stil

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-13 Thread dann frazier
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 06:50:36PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: > The exceptions are: > * linux-kernel-di-powerpc appears to require a 2.4 build host - I've >poked around looking for help here, but no volunteers yet. Still need help with this one... > * linux-kernel-di-m68k-* - I've just e-ma

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-12 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
dann frazier wrote: > On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 01:32:42PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:23:45PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > > > The more arches are built by the same person, the easier coordination is. > > > So your offer is very welcome. > > > > > > Note that you'll need

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-12 Thread dann frazier
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 01:32:42PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: > On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:23:45PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > > The more arches are built by the same person, the easier coordination is. > > So your offer is very welcome. > > > > Note that you'll need to check out the kernel udeb pa

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 09:33:54PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > That said, currently, backports are not an easy solution because of udev, >> > which cannot be taken as is without pulling in the whol

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Karl Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For people wanting to install Sarge on AMD64 I recommend using the > mini.iso found here: > > http://amd64.debian.net/debian-installer/daily/netboot/ > > I did a sarge jfs on RAID with home on jfs/raid1/lvm with only minor > problems with this iso. > > Th

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 09:33:51PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > On Thursday 08 June 2006 20:08, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 07:16:57PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > > > Only if we _would_ include some backports repository that is known to > > > have a current backported kernel and all o

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 09:33:54PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > That said, currently, backports are not an easy solution because of udev, > > which cannot be taken as is without pulling in the whole gnome, so a bit of > > work is needed. > > >

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-08 Thread Karl Schmidt
For people wanting to install Sarge on AMD64 I recommend using the mini.iso found here: http://amd64.debian.net/debian-installer/daily/netboot/ I did a sarge jfs on RAID with home on jfs/raid1/lvm with only minor problems with this iso. There should be a mention of this iso on the main insta

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That said, currently, backports are not an easy solution because of udev, > which cannot be taken as is without pulling in the whole gnome, so a bit of > work is needed. > > Friendly, > > Sven Luther What do you mean? You don't seriously mean udev depends

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-08 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 08 June 2006 20:08, Sven Luther wrote: > On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 07:16:57PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > > Only if we _would_ include some backports repository that is known to > > have a current backported kernel and all other packages needed with > > that kernel, but without random backp

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thursday 08 June 2006 13:33, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> > - increasing differences between the Sarge 2.6.8 and current kernels; >> >> That is a reason for. > > Only if we _would_ include some backports repository that is known to have > a current bac

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 07:16:57PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > On Thursday 08 June 2006 13:33, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > - increasing differences between the Sarge 2.6.8 and current kernels; > > > > That is a reason for. > > Only if we _would_ include some backports repository that is known

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-08 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 08 June 2006 13:33, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > - increasing differences between the Sarge 2.6.8 and current kernels; > > That is a reason for. Only if we _would_ include some backports repository that is known to have a current backported kernel and all other packages needed with

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-08 Thread dann frazier
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 01:33:57PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What changes are those? Is Debian finaly going to use LABEL= or UUID= > in the generated fstab? I hope not; /dev/disk/by-* names seem a lot less kludgy to me. -- dann frazier -- To

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > (Also replying to other mails about Sarge support in Etch installer) > > On Wednesday 07 June 2006 20:42, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I ment that when you select sarge in choose-mirror in expert mode you >> get the

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-08 Thread Frans Pop
(Also replying to other mails about Sarge support in Etch installer) On Wednesday 07 June 2006 20:42, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I ment that when you select sarge in choose-mirror in expert mode you > get the inofficial list and if you choose etch/etch+1/

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-07 Thread dann frazier
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 12:59:42AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > If using the testing images to install stable is not possible in the > future then we should seriously consider releasing images with newer > kernels in point releases or having D-I on backports.org. This is being considered &

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 08:42:23PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > (Removed irrelevant CCs for this question) >> > >> > On Wednesday 07 June 2006 10:11, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> >> If possibly it w

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-07 Thread Otavio Salvador
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I ment that when you select sarge in choose-mirror in expert mode you >> get the inofficial list and if you choose etch/etch+1/sid you get the >> official one. >> >> Might be too much work for a transient problem though. > > I thought that installing sar

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-07 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 08:42:23PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > (Removed irrelevant CCs for this question) > > > > On Wednesday 07 June 2006 10:11, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> If possibly it would be nice to have different mirror lists for s

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > (Removed irrelevant CCs for this question) > > On Wednesday 07 June 2006 10:11, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> If possibly it would be nice to have different mirror lists for sarge >> and etch/sid in choose-mirror. > > This is not really a problem. > > choo

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-07 Thread Frans Pop
(Removed irrelevant CCs for this question) On Wednesday 07 June 2006 10:11, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > If possibly it would be nice to have different mirror lists for sarge > and etch/sid in choose-mirror. This is not really a problem. choose-mirror for Sarge will remain unchanged and thus k

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
dann frazier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:23:45PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: >> The more arches are built by the same person, the easier coordination is. >> So your offer is very welcome. >> >> Note that you'll need to check out the kernel udeb package sources from >> t

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-07 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 07:41:05PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > Martin Schulze wrote: > > It would be good if we would be able some day to release kernel > > updates in a more timely fashion and also not accumulate this many > > security updates in one update. However, due to the number of >

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-07 Thread dann frazier
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:15:44PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > I seem to remember though that the security update was planned for the end > of Debconf, so I was a bit surprised when reading my mail backlog this > week that it is not out yet. That was the optimistic plan (I didn't mean to imply oth

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-06 Thread dann frazier
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:23:45PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > The more arches are built by the same person, the easier coordination is. > So your offer is very welcome. > > Note that you'll need to check out the kernel udeb package sources from > the *sarge branch* of the d-i SVN repo for the dif

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-06 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
Martin Schulze wrote: > It would be good if we would be able some day to release kernel > updates in a more timely fashion and also not accumulate this many > security updates in one update. However, due to the number of > architectures and affected packages I'm not sure this goal can be met > any

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-06 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 21:32, dann frazier wrote: > I don't think its very likely that amd64/sarge will be added to > debian.org, I did not mean to imply that of course. > but this is a good question for the amd64.debian.net maintainers. The main reason we need to know is that the d-i source n

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-06 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 19:22, dann frazier wrote: > I've offered to perform these builds for all archs except mips, mipsel > & m68k (but I can help coordinate those as well - those arch > maintainers have always been very responsive to my build requests). > > This offer is still open, just let me

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-06 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 18:01, dann frazier wrote: > I believed aba, joeyh & fjp were all in on this decision, but apologies > if it didn't get communicated back to everyone involved. That's right, aba agreed to this plan as representative of the stable release team. Also, I posted an update abou

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-06 Thread dann frazier
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 06:56:33PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > However, if kernel udebs should be part of the security update, then > we'll need proper source packages that build these udebs - or, if > these already exist, a pointer which source package has been forgotton > in the last kernel up

Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-06 Thread Martin Schulze
dann frazier wrote: > I saw some questions on irc about the sarge3 kernel build & r3... > > it's just, i actualy wanted to release sarge r3 with sarge2 > kernels. now i get told sarge3-kernels are already prepared, which > disapoints me a bit, as noone

sarge3 kernel build & r3

2006-06-06 Thread dann frazier
I saw some questions on irc about the sarge3 kernel build & r3... it's just, i actualy wanted to release sarge r3 with sarge2 kernels. now i get told sarge3-kernels are already prepared, which disapoints me a bit, as noone told the stable release team there will