Re: IPChains vs Cisco IOS Packer Filters

2001-04-14 Thread volker . tanger
On 12 Apr, Eugene van Zyl wrote: > Can anyone tell me whether the Packet Filter on the Cisco IOS does > statefull packet inspection ? and whether I'll be losing by replacing > it with IPChains on Kernel 2.2.17? Not a big difference - neither Cisco IOS nor IPchains offer stateful inspection. For t

Re: Followup: Syslog

2001-04-14 Thread Luca Gibelli
Il giorno Fri, Apr 13 in un momento di profonda ispirazione Micah Anderson scrisse riguardo a " Re: Followup: Syslog ": > One additional tweak which falls into line with the security setups, that I > think is a good idea is to made the log files in /var/log to be chattr +a > (append only) so

Re: Logging practices (and why does it suck in Debian?)

2001-04-14 Thread Janto Trappe
On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 09:33:08PM -0300, Peter Cordes wrote: > It's not hard to find (once you to look for it:): I looked for it. See below. > bigfoot:~# apt-cache search less console > aview - An high quality ascii-art image(pgm) browser [...] # apt-cache search less console E: You must giv

Re: Followup: Syslog

2001-04-14 Thread Andy Bastien
Of all the days, it was on Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 05:54:07PM -0500 that Kevin van Haaren quoth: > > > --On Friday, April 13, 2001 3:40 PM -0700 Micah Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > hath wrote: > > | One additional tweak which falls into line with the security setups, that > | I think is a good

Re: Followup: Syslog

2001-04-14 Thread Jacob Kuntz
from the secret journal of Andy Bastien ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Another technique is to use a separate logging server which has the > transmit leads on it's ethernet connection snipped. It's capable of > receiving (via UDP only, since it can't ACK!) log entries, but it's > virtually impossible

Re: Logging practices (and why does it suck in Debian?)

2001-04-14 Thread Peter Cordes
On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 05:07:47PM +0200, Janto Trappe wrote: > # apt-cache show console-log > W: Unable to locate package console-log > > I use potato, bigfoot is woody, right? ;) Ah, sorry. bigfoot is running unstable, actually. Some of my other machines run testing, but I've got the unstab

Re: Followup: Syslog

2001-04-14 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 02:58:02PM +0200, Luca Gibelli wrote: > > One additional tweak which falls into line with the security setups, that I > > think is a good idea is to made the log files in /var/log to be chattr +a > > (append only) so logfiles cannot be modified or removed altogether to cove

Re: Logging practices (and why does it suck in Debian?)

2001-04-14 Thread Tim Uckun
> Ah, sorry. bigfoot is running unstable, actually. Some of my other >machines run testing, but I've got the unstable package repository in my >sources.list (and Default-Release "testing"; in /etc/apt/apt.conf, so >unstable doesn't get used by default, but I can install packages from it. >see

Re: Logging practices (and why does it suck in Debian?)

2001-04-14 Thread Peter Cordes
On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 07:29:05PM -0700, Tim Uckun wrote: > > > Ah, sorry. bigfoot is running unstable, actually. Some of my other > >machines run testing, but I've got the unstable package repository in my > >sources.list (and Default-Release "testing"; in /etc/apt/apt.conf, so > >unstable d

Re[2]: Logging practices (and why does it suck in Debian?)

2001-04-14 Thread Kevin
But what about when bob wants to run unstable glibc(2.2.2) and jimmy likes stable glibc(2.1.3)? There'd have to be stable/unstable/blah packages for every major version of glibc which I suppose isnt that many but it'd add up. I could be totally off base though. -- Kevin - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Logging practices (and why does it suck in Debian?)

2001-04-14 Thread Bdale Garbee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Uckun) writes: > Ideally the packages themselves should be labled stable, milestone, > snapshot (or something similar) and you ought to be able to subscribe to > packages themselves. A good idea, that doesn't work all that well in practice. Packages rarely stand alone..

Re: Logging practices (and why does it suck in Debian?)

2001-04-14 Thread Peter Cordes
On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 07:49:27PM -0600, Bdale Garbee wrote: > Packages rarely stand alone... they depend on other packages, particularly > shared libraries. It is hard to pull packages from unstable without finding > yourself pulling in a number of shared library updates, at which point the >

Re: IPChains vs Cisco IOS Packer Filters

2001-04-14 Thread volker . tanger
On 12 Apr, Eugene van Zyl wrote: > Can anyone tell me whether the Packet Filter on the Cisco IOS does > statefull packet inspection ? and whether I'll be losing by replacing > it with IPChains on Kernel 2.2.17? Not a big difference - neither Cisco IOS nor IPchains offer stateful inspection. For th

Re: Followup: Syslog

2001-04-14 Thread Luca Gibelli
Il giorno Fri, Apr 13 in un momento di profonda ispirazione Micah Anderson scrisse riguardo a " Re: Followup: Syslog ": > One additional tweak which falls into line with the security setups, that I > think is a good idea is to made the log files in /var/log to be chattr +a > (append only) so

Re: Logging practices (and why does it suck in Debian?)

2001-04-14 Thread Janto Trappe
On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 09:33:08PM -0300, Peter Cordes wrote: > It's not hard to find (once you to look for it:): I looked for it. See below. > bigfoot:~# apt-cache search less console > aview - An high quality ascii-art image(pgm) browser [...] # apt-cache search less console E: You must give

Re: Followup: Syslog

2001-04-14 Thread Andy Bastien
Of all the days, it was on Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 05:54:07PM -0500 that Kevin van Haaren quoth: > > > --On Friday, April 13, 2001 3:40 PM -0700 Micah Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > hath wrote: > > | One additional tweak which falls into line with the security setups, that > | I think is a good i

Re: Followup: Syslog

2001-04-14 Thread Jacob Kuntz
from the secret journal of Andy Bastien ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Another technique is to use a separate logging server which has the > transmit leads on it's ethernet connection snipped. It's capable of > receiving (via UDP only, since it can't ACK!) log entries, but it's > virtually impossible t

Re: Logging practices (and why does it suck in Debian?)

2001-04-14 Thread Peter Cordes
On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 05:07:47PM +0200, Janto Trappe wrote: > # apt-cache show console-log > W: Unable to locate package console-log > > I use potato, bigfoot is woody, right? ;) Ah, sorry. bigfoot is running unstable, actually. Some of my other machines run testing, but I've got the unstabl

Re: Followup: Syslog

2001-04-14 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 02:58:02PM +0200, Luca Gibelli wrote: > > One additional tweak which falls into line with the security setups, that I > > think is a good idea is to made the log files in /var/log to be chattr +a > > (append only) so logfiles cannot be modified or removed altogether to cover

Re: Logging practices (and why does it suck in Debian?)

2001-04-14 Thread Tim Uckun
Ah, sorry. bigfoot is running unstable, actually. Some of my other machines run testing, but I've got the unstable package repository in my sources.list (and Default-Release "testing"; in /etc/apt/apt.conf, so unstable doesn't get used by default, but I can install packages from it. see apt-p

Re: Logging practices (and why does it suck in Debian?)

2001-04-14 Thread Peter Cordes
On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 07:29:05PM -0700, Tim Uckun wrote: > > > Ah, sorry. bigfoot is running unstable, actually. Some of my other > >machines run testing, but I've got the unstable package repository in my > >sources.list (and Default-Release "testing"; in /etc/apt/apt.conf, so > >unstable do

Re[2]: Logging practices (and why does it suck in Debian?)

2001-04-14 Thread Kevin
But what about when bob wants to run unstable glibc(2.2.2) and jimmy likes stable glibc(2.1.3)? There'd have to be stable/unstable/blah packages for every major version of glibc which I suppose isnt that many but it'd add up. I could be totally off base though. -- Kevin - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Logging practices (and why does it suck in Debian?)

2001-04-14 Thread Bdale Garbee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Uckun) writes: > Ideally the packages themselves should be labled stable, milestone, > snapshot (or something similar) and you ought to be able to subscribe to > packages themselves. A good idea, that doesn't work all that well in practice. Packages rarely stand alone...

Re: Logging practices (and why does it suck in Debian?)

2001-04-14 Thread Peter Cordes
On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 07:49:27PM -0600, Bdale Garbee wrote: > Packages rarely stand alone... they depend on other packages, particularly > shared libraries. It is hard to pull packages from unstable without finding > yourself pulling in a number of shared library updates, at which point the >