rlinetd security

2001-06-17 Thread Sebastiaan
Hello, I found out that rlinetd seems like a great replacement for inetd, because it lets you choose which services may be available for the outside world and which only for the inner network. So, standard services like echo, daytime, chargen, ftp, etc. are only available for the LAN, while it is

Re: strange flickering ports

2001-06-17 Thread John Ferlito
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 09:14:54AM +0200, Sebastiaan wrote: > >Hi... > > > >I have a box with something listening to "flickering" ports. nmap > >reports various random ports open from run to run. I can't telnet to > >them and ID w/ netstat, because they're gone the instant nmap finds > >them. >

re: strange flickering ports

2001-06-17 Thread Sebastiaan
>Hi... > >I have a box with something listening to "flickering" ports. nmap >reports various random ports open from run to run. I can't telnet to >them and ID w/ netstat, because they're gone the instant nmap finds >them. Hi, I have this regularily too. I would like to see this explained, but p

Re: gnupg problem

2001-06-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Tim Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thomas Bushnell BSG writes: > > > In this case, there needs to be a non-older version of mailcrypt > > available for potato. I don't know why conflicts were added to > > mailcrypt (nothing I noticed in either the public or private security > > lists ment

Re: gnupg problem

2001-06-17 Thread Tim Potter
Thomas Bushnell BSG writes: > In this case, there needs to be a non-older version of mailcrypt > available for potato. I don't know why conflicts were added to > mailcrypt (nothing I noticed in either the public or private security > lists mentioned it, AFAICT). But assuming the conflicts are n

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Peter Cordes
I like the package signing idea. That would be cool. That way, you could still load and unload modules. I like being able to do that. One obvious problem with the scheme is that an attacker could potentially read the keys from /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.5, or whatever, and sign their own module. This ca

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Peter Cordes
On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 10:42:17PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 01:38:16AM -0300, Peter Cordes wrote: > > I like the package signing idea. That would be cool. That way, you > > could still load and unload modules. I like being able to do that. > > One obvious problem wit

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Philipp Schulte
On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 10:42:17PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > you would need to fix filesystem immutability and block device access > as well. currently lcap CAP_LINUX_IMMUTABLE is useless since there > is no way to deny root the ability to write directly to /dev/hda* and > remove the immuta

gnupg problem

2001-06-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
The new gnupg made it to security.debian.org, but it includes a conflict with the only available mailcrypt: Conflicts: gpg-rsa, gpg-rsaref, mailcrypt (<= 3.5.5-6) The changelog.Debian agrees: gnupg (1.0.6-0potato1) stable; urgency=high * Upload for stable; fixes several security holes. *

Re: Are these breakin attempts?

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 03:46:13PM +1000, Ian Miller wrote: > add the line /sbin/ipchains -A input -i -p TCP -s ! > -d 111 -l -j DENY to block the rpc statd attacks > from your external network port 111 is portmap, not rpc.statd. all blocking portmap will do is prevent them from conveniently

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 01:38:16AM -0300, Peter Cordes wrote: > I like the package signing idea. That would be cool. That way, you > could still load and unload modules. I like being able to do that. > One obvious problem with the scheme is that an attacker could > potentially read the keys fro

Re: rxvt exploit

2001-06-17 Thread Peter Cordes
On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 06:25:32AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 10:14:52AM -0400, Ehsan (Shawn) Baseri wrote: > > Just saw this, thought you guys might be interested. Not sure how > > damaging the exploit is though. > > you get gid=utmp, which lets you corrupt the utmp da

Re: Are these breakin attempts?

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 03:06:14AM +0200, Christian Jaeger wrote: > Hello, > > I run a pc with potato on a cable modem line. Recently I discovered > the following in /var/log/messages: > > Jun 10 20:21:16 pflanze -- MARK -- > Jun 10 20:33:55 pflanze > Jun 10 20:33:55 pflanze /sbin/rpc.statd[229]

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 01:27:37AM +, Jim Breton wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 02:44:48AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > > > compiling without module support would be mostly the same as just > > > > lcap CAP_SYS_MODULE > > > Fwiw, I have heard (though not tested myself) that even if you

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Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 03:03:06AM +0200, Christian Jaeger wrote: > Hello > > Do you know about LIDS (www.lids.org)? It also gives the ability to > play with CAP's, but seems much more sophisticated. > > I've just subscribed to this list. Has LIDS been discussed here before? a bit. lids makes

Re: Creating a logfile for Netfilter

2001-06-17 Thread Peter Cordes
On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 08:30:37PM +0200, Jean-Marc Boursot wrote: > On Friday 15 June 2001 16:32, Stefan Srdic wrote: > > > > > > If you create a user defined chain something like the following: > > > > > > iptables -N log_droped > > > iptables -A log_droped -j LOG --log-level 1 --log-prefix > > >

Re: Are these breakin attempts?

2001-06-17 Thread Ian Miller
add the line /sbin/ipchains -A input -i -p TCP -s ! -d 111 -l -j DENY to block the rpc statd attacks from your external network - Original Message - From: "Christian Jaeger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 11:06 AM Subject: Are these breakin attem

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Peter Cordes
I like the package signing idea. That would be cool. That way, you could still load and unload modules. I like being able to do that. One obvious problem with the scheme is that an attacker could potentially read the keys from /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.5, or whatever, and sign their own module. This c

Re: rxvt exploit

2001-06-17 Thread Peter Cordes
On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 06:25:32AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 10:14:52AM -0400, Ehsan (Shawn) Baseri wrote: > > Just saw this, thought you guys might be interested. Not sure how > > damaging the exploit is though. > > you get gid=utmp, which lets you corrupt the utmp d

Re: Are these breakin attempts?

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 03:06:14AM +0200, Christian Jaeger wrote: > Hello, > > I run a pc with potato on a cable modem line. Recently I discovered > the following in /var/log/messages: > > Jun 10 20:21:16 pflanze -- MARK -- > Jun 10 20:33:55 pflanze > Jun 10 20:33:55 pflanze /sbin/rpc.statd[229

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 01:27:37AM +, Jim Breton wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 02:44:48AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > > > compiling without module support would be mostly the same as just > > > > lcap CAP_SYS_MODULE > > > Fwiw, I have heard (though not tested myself) that even if yo

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 03:03:06AM +0200, Christian Jaeger wrote: > Hello > > Do you know about LIDS (www.lids.org)? It also gives the ability to > play with CAP's, but seems much more sophisticated. > > I've just subscribed to this list. Has LIDS been discussed here before? a bit. lids makes

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Jim Breton
On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 02:44:48AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > compiling without module support would be mostly the same as just > > lcap CAP_SYS_MODULE Fwiw, I have heard (though not tested myself) that even if you compile your kernel _without_ loadable module support, you will still be ab

Re: Are these breakin attempts?

2001-06-17 Thread Ken Seefried
Yes, they are likely breakin attempts. Why in the *world* are you running rpc.statd (or portmap, or...nevermind...some people can't be helped) on a publicly accessable machine. That's flat out stupid. Ken Seefried, CISSP Christian Jaeger writes: Hello, I run a pc with potato on a cabl

Re: Creating a logfile for Netfilter

2001-06-17 Thread Peter Cordes
On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 08:30:37PM +0200, Jean-Marc Boursot wrote: > On Friday 15 June 2001 16:32, Stefan Srdic wrote: > > > > > > If you create a user defined chain something like the following: > > > > > > iptables -N log_droped > > > iptables -A log_droped -j LOG --log-level 1 --log-prefix > >

Are these breakin attempts?

2001-06-17 Thread Christian Jaeger
Hello, I run a pc with potato on a cable modem line. Recently I discovered the following in /var/log/messages: Jun 10 20:21:16 pflanze -- MARK -- Jun 10 20:33:55 pflanze Jun 10 20:33:55 pflanze /sbin/rpc.statd[229]: gethostbyname error for ^X÷ÿ¿^X÷ÿ¿^Y÷ÿ¿^Y÷ÿ¿^Z÷ÿ¿^Z÷ÿ¿^[÷ÿ¿^[÷ÿ¿%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Christian Jaeger
Hello Do you know about LIDS (www.lids.org)? It also gives the ability to play with CAP's, but seems much more sophisticated. I've just subscribed to this list. Has LIDS been discussed here before? I'm interested in using it, but am not sure how to use it best. In fact I currently think it's

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Jim Breton
On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 02:44:48AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > compiling without module support would be mostly the same as just > > lcap CAP_SYS_MODULE Fwiw, I have heard (though not tested myself) that even if you compile your kernel _without_ loadable module support, you will still be a

Re: Are these breakin attempts?

2001-06-17 Thread Ken Seefried
Yes, they are likely breakin attempts. Why in the *world* are you running rpc.statd (or portmap, or...nevermind...some people can't be helped) on a publicly accessable machine. That's flat out stupid. Ken Seefried, CISSP Christian Jaeger writes: > Hello, > > I run a pc with potato on

Are these breakin attempts?

2001-06-17 Thread Christian Jaeger
Hello, I run a pc with potato on a cable modem line. Recently I discovered the following in /var/log/messages: Jun 10 20:21:16 pflanze -- MARK -- Jun 10 20:33:55 pflanze Jun 10 20:33:55 pflanze /sbin/rpc.statd[229]: gethostbyname error for ^X÷ÿ¿^X÷ÿ¿^Y÷ÿ¿^Y÷ÿ¿^Z÷ÿ¿^Z÷ÿ¿^[÷ÿ¿^[÷ÿ¿%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Christian Jaeger
Hello Do you know about LIDS (www.lids.org)? It also gives the ability to play with CAP's, but seems much more sophisticated. I've just subscribed to this list. Has LIDS been discussed here before? I'm interested in using it, but am not sure how to use it best. In fact I currently think it's

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 01:54:14PM +0200, Sjarn Valkhoff wrote: > > lcap CAP_SYS_MODULE CAP_SYS_RAWIO > > Thanks for the input. Two points: > > 1. I coming at this problem as a laptop user so pcmcia modules must remain > and be loadable and unloadable at will - as far as I know, there is no > dir

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Sjarn Valkhoff
> lcap CAP_SYS_MODULE CAP_SYS_RAWIO Thanks for the input. Two points: 1. I coming at this problem as a laptop user so pcmcia modules must remain and be loadable and unloadable at will - as far as I know, there is no direct way to compile pcmcia modules directly into the kernel like the other driv

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 01:54:14PM +0200, Sjarn Valkhoff wrote: > > lcap CAP_SYS_MODULE CAP_SYS_RAWIO > > Thanks for the input. Two points: > > 1. I coming at this problem as a laptop user so pcmcia modules must remain > and be loadable and unloadable at will - as far as I know, there is no > di

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 01:21:45PM +0300, Juha Jäykkä wrote: > > lcap CAP_SYS_MODULE CAP_SYS_RAWIO > > which will disable module loading entirely as well as access to > > /dev/mem (which can be just as dangerous as a kernel module and would > > bypass your signed module thing nicely). > > Which

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Juha Jäykkä
> lcap CAP_SYS_MODULE CAP_SYS_RAWIO > which will disable module loading entirely as well as access to > /dev/mem (which can be just as dangerous as a kernel module and would > bypass your signed module thing nicely). Which means: so long, X. I have a workstation and using X in, naturally, necess

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Sjarn Valkhoff
> lcap CAP_SYS_MODULE CAP_SYS_RAWIO Thanks for the input. Two points: 1. I coming at this problem as a laptop user so pcmcia modules must remain and be loadable and unloadable at will - as far as I know, there is no direct way to compile pcmcia modules directly into the kernel like the other dri

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 01:21:45PM +0300, Juha Jäykkä wrote: > > lcap CAP_SYS_MODULE CAP_SYS_RAWIO > > which will disable module loading entirely as well as access to > > /dev/mem (which can be just as dangerous as a kernel module and would > > bypass your signed module thing nicely). > > Whic

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Juha Jäykkä
> lcap CAP_SYS_MODULE CAP_SYS_RAWIO > which will disable module loading entirely as well as access to > /dev/mem (which can be just as dangerous as a kernel module and would > bypass your signed module thing nicely). Which means: so long, X. I have a workstation and using X in, naturally, neces