Re: Updating Snort Signatures In Stable ?

2002-12-06 Thread Nick Boyce
On Fri, 06 Dec 2002 04:18:52 +, I wrote: >I've been running Snort for a month or so now on a Woody box at work, >and am now wondering whether the Debian Project (or packager) has a >Plan for providing signature file updates to users of the stable >distribution. Well thanks for the answers fol

Re: Stack-smashing protection

2002-12-06 Thread David B Harris
On Sat, 7 Dec 2002 01:09:59 +0100 Albert Cervera Areny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So it isn't really that the hole system runs 8% slower. Sorry for my > first explanation... Now I think it is an overhead which is afordable > seeing its benefits. For your purposes, anyways. As has been said, thi

Re: Updating Snort Signatures In Stable ?

2002-12-06 Thread Nick Boyce
On Fri, 06 Dec 2002 04:18:52 +, I wrote: >I've been running Snort for a month or so now on a Woody box at work, >and am now wondering whether the Debian Project (or packager) has a >Plan for providing signature file updates to users of the stable >distribution. Well thanks for the answers fol

Re: Stack-smashing protection

2002-12-06 Thread Albert Cervera Areny
Sorry, I didn't say it as it really is... "It shows an 8% overhead on function calls, which should be the upper bound on the real costs of running programs under this protection system. The overall overhead of guarded programs varies with how many functions are called that have character array

Re: Possible security violation in the suck-package?

2002-12-06 Thread Martin Helas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Marcus Frings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [021207 00:52]: > Hello, > > I just migrated from leafnode to inn + suck on my Debian Woody box. > After installing suck I think I have discovered a possible security > violation. /etc/suck/get-news.conf is installe

Possible security violation in the suck-package?

2002-12-06 Thread Marcus Frings
Hello, I just migrated from leafnode to inn + suck on my Debian Woody box. After installing suck I think I have discovered a possible security violation. /etc/suck/get-news.conf is installed as root:root with default file permissions 644. This means that $WORLD can read passwords from this file wh

Re: Stack-smashing protection

2002-12-06 Thread David B Harris
On Sat, 7 Dec 2002 01:09:59 +0100 Albert Cervera Areny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So it isn't really that the hole system runs 8% slower. Sorry for my > first explanation... Now I think it is an overhead which is afordable > seeing its benefits. For your purposes, anyways. As has been said, thi

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Glen Mehn
Ted Roby wrote: On Friday, Dec 6, 2002, at 04:48 US/Pacific, Jeff AA wrote: Second the recommendation for courier. Remember that pop3 by default is insecure in that user/passwords pass in the clear over the net - DON'T make your mail users real users with shell access or you are opening a l

Re: Stack-smashing protection

2002-12-06 Thread Albert Cervera Areny
Sorry, I didn't say it as it really is... "It shows an 8% overhead on function calls, which should be the upper bound on the real costs of running programs under this protection system. The overall overhead of guarded programs varies with how many functions are called that have character array

Re: Stack-smashing protection

2002-12-06 Thread Thing
8% is a huge hit, by all means a module or an option, however I question its need as "standard". I would not want it there unless Im convinced it truely offers protection from a quantifiable risk. I dont want to see the kernel go the way of MS's kernel ,one huge bloated mess. Lets see some pape

Re: Possible security violation in the suck-package?

2002-12-06 Thread Martin Helas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Marcus Frings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [021207 00:52]: > Hello, > > I just migrated from leafnode to inn + suck on my Debian Woody box. > After installing suck I think I have discovered a possible security > violation. /etc/suck/get-news.conf is installe

Possible security violation in the suck-package?

2002-12-06 Thread Marcus Frings
Hello, I just migrated from leafnode to inn + suck on my Debian Woody box. After installing suck I think I have discovered a possible security violation. /etc/suck/get-news.conf is installed as root:root with default file permissions 644. This means that $WORLD can read passwords from this file wh

Stack-smashing protection

2002-12-06 Thread Albert Cervera Areny
I've read in slashdot (http://bsd.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/12/02/2035207) that openbsd has included stack-smashing protection using the ProPolice (http://www.trl.ibm.com/projects/security/ssp/) patch for GCC 3.2 I think it would be a great idea to use this patch with debian too as soon as

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Ted Roby
On Friday, Dec 6, 2002, at 04:48 US/Pacific, Jeff AA wrote: Second the recommendation for courier. Remember that pop3 by default is insecure in that user/passwords pass in the clear over the net - DON'T make your mail users real users with shell access or you are opening a large number of doo

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Glen Mehn
Ted Roby wrote: On Friday, Dec 6, 2002, at 04:48 US/Pacific, Jeff AA wrote: Second the recommendation for courier. Remember that pop3 by default is insecure in that user/passwords pass in the clear over the net - DON'T make your mail users real users with shell access or you are opening a la

Re: Stack-smashing protection

2002-12-06 Thread Thing
8% is a huge hit, by all means a module or an option, however I question its need as "standard". I would not want it there unless Im convinced it truely offers protection from a quantifiable risk. I dont want to see the kernel go the way of MS's kernel ,one huge bloated mess. Lets see some pape

Re: Updating Snort Signatures In Stable ?

2002-12-06 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 11:55:02PM -0500, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > This has been discussed before. The thing is, I think that if you're > serious about using snort, you should not even consider using the one in > Debian. snort.org doesn't even distribute up-to-date rules files for > the versio

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Glen Mehn
Jeff AA wrote: Second the recommendation for courier. We have exim / courier [pop imap pops imaps] using maildir formats and controlled from mysql for virtual users accepting mail for about 20 domains. We did compare with Cyrus, but that fell down on integration with exim. This is the list dp

Stack-smashing protection

2002-12-06 Thread Albert Cervera Areny
I've read in slashdot (http://bsd.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/12/02/2035207) that openbsd has included stack-smashing protection using the ProPolice (http://www.trl.ibm.com/projects/security/ssp/) patch for GCC 3.2 I think it would be a great idea to use this patch with debian too as soon as

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Ted Roby
On Friday, Dec 6, 2002, at 04:48 US/Pacific, Jeff AA wrote: Second the recommendation for courier. Remember that pop3 by default is insecure in that user/passwords pass in the clear over the net - DON'T make your mail users real users with shell access or you are opening a large number of door

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Ted Cabeen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sven Hoexter writes: >On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 12:07:10PM +0100, andres wrote: >> apt-get install qpopper >> >> Ok! >> >> ;-) >*rotfl* Hope that wasn't a serious answer. >apt-

Re: Updating Snort Signatures In Stable ?

2002-12-06 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 11:55:02PM -0500, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > This has been discussed before. The thing is, I think that if you're > serious about using snort, you should not even consider using the one in > Debian. snort.org doesn't even distribute up-to-date rules files for > the versio

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Glen Mehn
Jeff AA wrote: Second the recommendation for courier. We have exim / courier [pop imap pops imaps] using maildir formats and controlled from mysql for virtual users accepting mail for about 20 domains. We did compare with Cyrus, but that fell down on integration with exim. This is the list dpk

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 04:35:04PM +0100, Christian Storch wrote: > Look at brand new > http://packages.debian.org/unstable/mail/cyrus21-imapd.html > > ssl included! Cyrus definitely rocks, but it can't be described as lightweight in any sense of the word. It's very powerful, and would be my fir

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Ted Cabeen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sven Hoexter writes: >On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 12:07:10PM +0100, andres wrote: >> apt-get install qpopper >> >> Ok! >> >> ;-) >*rotfl* Hope that wasn't a serious answer. >apt-

RE: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Christian Storch
Look at brand new http://packages.debian.org/unstable/mail/cyrus21-imapd.html ssl included! Christian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 4:12 PM To: debian-security@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: pop mail recommendations .

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 10:12:22AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > > On Friday, Dec 6, 2002, at 03:18 US/Pacific, Sven Hoexter wrote: > > >> I suggest popa3d from http://www.openwall.com but I'm not sure > >> if you can use it in standalone mode. >

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread mfaurot
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > On Friday, Dec 6, 2002, at 03:18 US/Pacific, Sven Hoexter wrote: >> I suggest popa3d from http://www.openwall.com but I'm not sure >> if you can use it in standalone mode. > I like the look of popa3d, but it does not support md5 or ssl > transport. I

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 04:35:04PM +0100, Christian Storch wrote: > Look at brand new > http://packages.debian.org/unstable/mail/cyrus21-imapd.html > > ssl included! Cyrus definitely rocks, but it can't be described as lightweight in any sense of the word. It's very powerful, and would be my fir

RE: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Jeff AA
A little HTTPS PHP web page lets users change passwords, enter a vacation message or set up personal exim filters. We don't allow remote pop3 or imap - all is SSL wrapped. We run SquirrelMail through https for users who want a web client. The nicest thing IMO though, is that we only allow relay f

Re: Updating Snort Signatures In Stable ?

2002-12-06 Thread Kristof Goossens
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 04:18:52AM +, Nick Boyce wrote: > I searched the debian-security archive but didn't hit any items > discussing this, so maybe it's a dumb question - sorry, I'm a newb > here. > > Thanks for _any_ comments at all. Well, the version I am running at this time is "Version

RE: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Christian Storch
Why it did 'fell down .. with exim'? With a little bit more expense as usual cyrus 2.0.16 worked very fine with sendmail 8.12.2! regards, Christian -Original Message- From: Jeff AA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 1:48 PM To: debian-security@lists.debian.org Subj

RE: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Christian Storch
Look at brand new http://packages.debian.org/unstable/mail/cyrus21-imapd.html ssl included! Christian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 4:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: pop mail recommendations ... I'd suggest

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
On Fri, 06 Dec 2002 at 12:48:19PM -, Jeff AA wrote: > We have exim / courier [pop imap pops imaps] using maildir formats > and controlled from mysql for virtual users accepting mail for about > 20 domains. How do you handle virtual user password changes with this setup? Can the users change t

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 10:12:22AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > > On Friday, Dec 6, 2002, at 03:18 US/Pacific, Sven Hoexter wrote: > > >> I suggest popa3d from http://www.openwall.com but I'm not sure > >> if you can use it in standalone mode. >

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread mfaurot
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > On Friday, Dec 6, 2002, at 03:18 US/Pacific, Sven Hoexter wrote: >> I suggest popa3d from http://www.openwall.com but I'm not sure >> if you can use it in standalone mode. > I like the look of popa3d, but it does not support md5 or ssl > transport. I

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Marcel Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ted Roby wrote: | I have setup exim to host my domain's SMTP services. | | Would any of you care to make a recommendation? I personally like teapop. It is very fast and stable. Furthermore it supports authenticating users against postgresql or mysql

RE: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Jeff AA
Second the recommendation for courier. We have exim / courier [pop imap pops imaps] using maildir formats and controlled from mysql for virtual users accepting mail for about 20 domains. We did compare with Cyrus, but that fell down on integration with exim. This is the list dpkg -l *courier* |

RE: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Jeff AA
A little HTTPS PHP web page lets users change passwords, enter a vacation message or set up personal exim filters. We don't allow remote pop3 or imap - all is SSL wrapped. We run SquirrelMail through https for users who want a web client. The nicest thing IMO though, is that we only allow relay f

Re: Updating Snort Signatures In Stable ?

2002-12-06 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 04:18:52AM +, Nick Boyce wrote: > > If so, are there any special steps required to integrate such a > download into our Debian Woody system ? Yes. See below. > > Alternatively, I note there are later signature packages in testing > and unstable - can we use th

Re: Updating Snort Signatures In Stable ?

2002-12-06 Thread Kristof Goossens
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 04:18:52AM +, Nick Boyce wrote: > I searched the debian-security archive but didn't hit any items > discussing this, so maybe it's a dumb question - sorry, I'm a newb > here. > > Thanks for _any_ comments at all. Well, the version I am running at this time is "Version

RE: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Christian Storch
Why it did 'fell down .. with exim'? With a little bit more expense as usual cyrus 2.0.16 worked very fine with sendmail 8.12.2! regards, Christian -Original Message- From: Jeff AA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 1:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: pop m

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Michael Renzmann
Hi all. Ted Roby wrote: I suggest popa3d from http://www.openwall.com but I'm not sure if you can use it in standalone mode. How about the combination of popa3d with postfix? Does this team up well? I thought of using qpopper, but I'm willing to think that over again if qpopper has major dis

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 03:31:31AM -0800, Ted Roby wrote: > On Friday, Dec 6, 2002, at 03:18 US/Pacific, Sven Hoexter wrote: > >On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 12:07:10PM +0100, andres wrote: > >>apt-get install qpopper > >>;-) > >*rotfl* Hope that wasn't a serious answer. > >apt-cache search pop3 > > > >I

RE: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Craig
cucipop -Original Message- From: DEFFONTAINES Vincent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 December 2002 01:29 To: debian-security@lists.debian.org Subject: RE: pop mail recommendations I personnally used courrier-pop which did good, but never did I compare it with others. > -Origina

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
On Fri, 06 Dec 2002 at 12:48:19PM -, Jeff AA wrote: > We have exim / courier [pop imap pops imaps] using maildir formats > and controlled from mysql for virtual users accepting mail for about > 20 domains. How do you handle virtual user password changes with this setup? Can the users change t

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Ted Roby
On Friday, Dec 6, 2002, at 03:18 US/Pacific, Sven Hoexter wrote: On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 12:07:10PM +0100, andres wrote: apt-get install qpopper Ok! ;-) *rotfl* Hope that wasn't a serious answer. apt-cache search pop3 I suggest popa3d from http://www.openwall.com but I'm not sure if you ca

RE: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread DEFFONTAINES Vincent
I personnally used courrier-pop which did good, but never did I compare it with others. > -Original Message- > From: Ted Roby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday 6 December 2002 11:51 > To: debian-security@lists.debian.org > Subject: pop mail recommendations > > > I have setup exim

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 12:07:10PM +0100, andres wrote: > apt-get install qpopper > > Ok! > > ;-) *rotfl* Hope that wasn't a serious answer. apt-cache search pop3 I suggest popa3d from http://www.openwall.com but I'm not sure if you can use it in standalone mode. Sven > Ted Roby ha escrito: >

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread andres
apt-get install qpopper Ok! ;-) Bye Ted Roby ha escrito: > I have setup exim to host my domain's SMTP services. > > I am now looking for something to host POP3 on the same Debian potato > box. > > I am asking the security list because that is my primary interest. > I would like to find somethi

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Marcel Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ted Roby wrote: | I have setup exim to host my domain's SMTP services. | | Would any of you care to make a recommendation? I personally like teapop. It is very fast and stable. Furthermore it supports authenticating users against postgresql or mysql t

pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Ted Roby
I have setup exim to host my domain's SMTP services. I am now looking for something to host POP3 on the same Debian potato box. I am asking the security list because that is my primary interest. I would like to find something stable, reasonably known to be secure, perhaps specifically recomme

RE: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Jeff AA
Second the recommendation for courier. We have exim / courier [pop imap pops imaps] using maildir formats and controlled from mysql for virtual users accepting mail for about 20 domains. We did compare with Cyrus, but that fell down on integration with exim. This is the list dpkg -l *courier* |

Re: Updating Snort Signatures In Stable ?

2002-12-06 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 04:18:52AM +, Nick Boyce wrote: > > If so, are there any special steps required to integrate such a > download into our Debian Woody system ? Yes. See below. > > Alternatively, I note there are later signature packages in testing > and unstable - can we use th

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Michael Renzmann
Hi all. Ted Roby wrote: I suggest popa3d from http://www.openwall.com but I'm not sure if you can use it in standalone mode. How about the combination of popa3d with postfix? Does this team up well? I thought of using qpopper, but I'm willing to think that over again if qpopper has major disa

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 03:31:31AM -0800, Ted Roby wrote: > On Friday, Dec 6, 2002, at 03:18 US/Pacific, Sven Hoexter wrote: > >On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 12:07:10PM +0100, andres wrote: > >>apt-get install qpopper > >>;-) > >*rotfl* Hope that wasn't a serious answer. > >apt-cache search pop3 > > > >I

RE: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Craig
cucipop -Original Message- From: DEFFONTAINES Vincent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 06 December 2002 01:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: pop mail recommendations I personnally used courrier-pop which did good, but never did I compare it with others. > -Original Message-

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Ted Roby
On Friday, Dec 6, 2002, at 03:18 US/Pacific, Sven Hoexter wrote: On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 12:07:10PM +0100, andres wrote: apt-get install qpopper Ok! ;-) *rotfl* Hope that wasn't a serious answer. apt-cache search pop3 I suggest popa3d from http://www.openwall.com but I'm not sure if you can

RE: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread DEFFONTAINES Vincent
I personnally used courrier-pop which did good, but never did I compare it with others. > -Original Message- > From: Ted Roby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday 6 December 2002 11:51 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: pop mail recommendations > > > I have setup exim to host my do

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 12:07:10PM +0100, andres wrote: > apt-get install qpopper > > Ok! > > ;-) *rotfl* Hope that wasn't a serious answer. apt-cache search pop3 I suggest popa3d from http://www.openwall.com but I'm not sure if you can use it in standalone mode. Sven > Ted Roby ha escrito: >

Re: pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread andres
apt-get install qpopper Ok! ;-) Bye Ted Roby ha escrito: > I have setup exim to host my domain's SMTP services. > > I am now looking for something to host POP3 on the same Debian potato > box. > > I am asking the security list because that is my primary interest. > I would like to find somethi

pop mail recommendations

2002-12-06 Thread Ted Roby
I have setup exim to host my domain's SMTP services. I am now looking for something to host POP3 on the same Debian potato box. I am asking the security list because that is my primary interest. I would like to find something stable, reasonably known to be secure, perhaps specifically recommend

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NETSTAT: warning, got bogus TCP line

2002-12-06 Thread Poon Dawg
Hi everyone, not sure if this is a security issue. Sorry if it isnt. After doing a netstat I got a line 'warning, got bogus TCP line' from a client connecting to apache on a server I am looking after. Ive done a search on google without much success. Anyone know what this means? Thanks in advance