security/ in the
announcement, not the security tracker though. This is also not
addressed in the FAQ. Hence maybe it'd make sense to add a note to
the announcement?
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The DSA is not on the website yet. Maybe it'd be better to wait for
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> > no security benefit
>
> Just wondering: Why not?
http://www.bpfh.net/simes/computing/chroot-break.html
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> It's a good idea to read through securing debian howto
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> I think a simple scan could give the same information, and anyway
> the name of debian machines is listed also on the web.
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to debian-security@lists.debian.org to
alert people.
< weinholt> i don't really have time for that, unfortunately, i have
work to do
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Once you created the rules, please
make sure to submit a bug. It can't be that hard, but do try to go
with fail2ban from etch, since sarge's configuration is deprecated.
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Stephen, could you forward me the relevant log messages from your
work gateway so that I can make sure to properly draft the logcheck
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would it look
different if someone tried a valid redirect that would be ignored
due to my configuration?
Sorry, I currently only have one functional machine in my test
network. :/
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hostmaster in whois.
Is this legitimate? Is someone trying to redirect me in a cheap hack
attempt?
Are people seeing this often?
Since the Linux kernel handles it quite alright, should I have
logcheck filter it?
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indicates that the kernel should autoreboot after this number of
seconds. When you use the software watchdog device driver, the
recommended setting is 60.
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> So running su with the '-' option is safer then running without it?
In that it bears less surprises, yes.
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> spotted since we've only just started releasing advisories with it.)
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s there some
> other way to create a log for all commands run on a system?
apt-cache show acct?
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But yes, you are right. To be on the safe side, I added a comment to
sshd_config.
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hlight, then, is a *successful* login.
Sure, those get logged anyway, as cracking attempts, because our
policy is never to log in as root. However, we leave
without-password in there and keep a separate root DSA key, just in
case.
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tries a password login for the root account, since password logins
are not possible anyway.
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> > door") are reachable.
>
> The host is not reachable.
Good to see you're on top of the issue.
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iptables rulesets to arbitrary
complexity. In fact, I often wanted Firewall-1 to have a similar
feature. Firewall-1 scales pretty damn well (4 Gbps throughput,
stateful), but in my experience, iptables can handle way more.
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also sprach Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.03.10.1541 +0100]:
> I've finally removed tartini from the security round robin.
Thanks!
I assume wiggy is in charge to solve the problem with tartini?
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>
> One day more or less doesn't really matter. So far, Debian security
> updates predated widespread (semi-)automated exploits by weeks.
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> the https db.debian.org certificate is expired on 2006-01-30.
#354747
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> out that IP when there is more than one A record available
> instead? (I can't think of a simple way of doing that off the top
> of my head, though)
It also bears the risk of hardcoding and forgetting, or missing an
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Maybe the administrators would be so kind as to investigate the
issue and send an update when it's resolved?
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s, this is what I meant. This, or
a second nameserver.
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None that I know. I suggest using a second nameserver to resolve the
A record to the internal IP.
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addition to kernel modules and other Linux maladities. That is, if
the attacker gets root...
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> I strongly recommend to use anonftpsync for mirroring any of the debian
> archives
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"delegations", but that doesn't mean that anything therein is
a delegation. Looks more like tbm actually wanted to write
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y in Debian.
And it does not address the problem that our security infrastructure
went down for a while and we found out about it from a German news
magazine.
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isn't it all the more important for Debian to get it right and help
protect those that don't know better?
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me about this stuff.
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> security.debian.org is not a server, it's a DNS A record. It's
> a whole lot easier to point that elsewhere in case of problems than
> expecting users to make sense of the errors they get whe
is not a server, it's a DNS A record. It's
a whole lot easier to point that elsewhere in case of problems than
expecting users to make sense of the errors they get when some
servers can't be reached.
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> I got at least security announcements from
> debian-security-announce@lists.debian.org
Not between 3 June and 30 June.
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laugh at us.
PS: the random quote generator seems to be able to establish
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> Unfortunately you are right :-( At this moment there is no secure
> Debian distribution.
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also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.28.1108 +0200]:
> No, he installed Sarge because it was cool back at the time.
Yeah so this whole thing has been growing on me a little too much.
Sorry for being snappy in the last two posts (to Marek and Alvin).
I am going to
also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.17.0944 +0200]:
> also sprach Michael Buchholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.17.0857 +0200]:
> > And also, when you write any block, you have to reencrypt all the
> > remaining blocks.
>
> Yes, don't
childhood problems to resolve themselves
(read: sarge r1). That said... of course woody is currently also
potentially vulnerable.
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l these servers
with something else because that'll be cheaper than the risk of
having them compromised.
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> - it's a task for debian-man .. more than what super-man or
> bat-man can do
people "volunteering" are useless. people actually doing something
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We are working to fix it. The last thing we need now are people
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some of the innovative approaches I have in mind. Thus, I'd love to
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So if we all recognise it as a problem, it will solve itself?
Wouldn't a ticket system (possibly request-tracker3) be helpful
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> There is a problem with that, namely responsible disclosure. The
> team cannot be too big or else the other organisations in the
> consortium will object for danger of leakage.
>
> I think what we
problem. That makes it extremely
> difficult for others to see what needs to be done.
Do you guys see this as a de facto state with no solution, or is
a good solution simply waiting to be found?
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Yeah, uh, so...
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which
would make it nonsensical and unnecessary to change the version
number in the first place.
Then again, I am not sure about this... just speculating.
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This is one of the essential and most important features of Debian
stable.
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de significant contributions to join their ranks.
I don't know more details and would love to find out.
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do everything we can to make it as easy as possible for
Joey to upload.
Once we've come back to normal, we should then see what to do about
Thanks for your patience.
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