On Sunday, March 02, 2014 09:10:44 PM Joel Rees wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 10:00 AM, wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 02, 2014 09:20:44 AM Joel Rees wrote:
> >> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 8:43 AM, wrote:
> >> > On Sunday, March 02, 2014 12:00:41 AM Volker Birk wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at
On Sunday, March 02, 2014 10:53:51 AM Jack wrote:
> On 02/03/2014 05:11, Eric Newcomb wrote:
> > Technical issues aside, I went through the list of members of the
> > tech-ctte, found here: https://www.debian.org/intro/organization. I
> > searched each name on the list on Google, and I can't honest
On 02/03/2014 14:16, Daniel Sousa wrote:
> I am also only a Debian user and I don't know much about the matter,
> but if I understand correctly systemd is a drop in replacement for
> sysV, which has a lot more functionalities but works fine with sysV
> initscrits.
It apparently doesn't work wit
Thanks, Jack. I like having as much information as I can get, and your post
was very informative.
As a Debian user (not developer), I find init files way too complicated and
limited in their capabilities. Systemd is a tremendous improvement. I have
no doubt that it has its flaws, but I think its w
Hello,
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Leslie S Satenstein
wrote:
> Relax, take a deep breath, and setup a comparison matrix. You know, column
> 1 is sys V, and column 2 is SystemD. Look at throughput, support
> population, maintenance, impact of multi-processors, and whatever criteria
> you
On 2 March 2014 10:53:51 WET, Jack wrote:
>Systemd scares me. As far as I can see it does a lot of things right
>(in
>some cases these are things that no other contender does right); I'm
>not
>going to try to enumerate those things, that's been one elsewhere. But
>the way systemd has been designed
stein
SENT FROM MY OPEN SOURCE LINUX SYSTEM.
>
> From: Jack
>To: debian-security@lists.debian.org
>Sent: Sunday, March 2, 2014 5:53 AM
>Subject: Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith
>likely
>
>
>On
On 02/03/2014, Jack wrote:
> First off, I'm not a Debian Developer. The way Debian is constituted,
> it's ultimately up to DDs to decide what direction Debian takes (so I
> understand). So my remarks below should be read in the light of the fact
> I'm not a DD, just a user - I don't speak ith any
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 10:00 AM, wrote:
> On Sunday, March 02, 2014 09:20:44 AM Joel Rees wrote:
>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 8:43 AM, wrote:
>> > On Sunday, March 02, 2014 12:00:41 AM Volker Birk wrote:
>> >> On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 02:17:05PM -0800, Leslie S Satenstein wrote:
>> >> > I am a casu
On 02/03/2014 05:11, Eric Newcomb wrote:
> Technical issues aside, I went through the list of members of the
> tech-ctte, found here: https://www.debian.org/intro/organization. I
> searched each name on the list on Google, and I can't honestly find
> any evidence that the committee is "stacked"
Technical issues aside, I went through the list of members of the
tech-ctte, found here: https://www.debian.org/intro/organization. I
searched each name on the list on Google, and I can't honestly find any
evidence that the committee is "stacked" with Redhat and/or Canonical
employees. I'd like to
Conrad,
Thanks for amazing explanation!
Greetings,
Ruben
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 5:30 AM, wrote:
> On Saturday, March 01, 2014 04:30:00 PM Andrew Merenbach wrote:
> > On 03/01/2014 15:43, y...@marupa.net wrote:
> > > On Sunday, March 02, 2014 12:00:41 AM Volker Birk wrote:
> > >> That makes som
On Saturday, March 01, 2014 04:30:00 PM Andrew Merenbach wrote:
> On 03/01/2014 15:43, y...@marupa.net wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 02, 2014 12:00:41 AM Volker Birk wrote:
> >> That makes some hope for the BSD world again. The good thing about Free
> >> Software is the alternatives.
> >
> > Indeed.
On Sunday, March 02, 2014 09:20:44 AM Joel Rees wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 8:43 AM, wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 02, 2014 12:00:41 AM Volker Birk wrote:
> >> On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 02:17:05PM -0800, Leslie S Satenstein wrote:
> >> > I am a casual Debian user and a person who has 50 years in
On 03/01/2014 15:43, y...@marupa.net wrote:
> On Sunday, March 02, 2014 12:00:41 AM Volker Birk wrote:
>> That makes some hope for the BSD world again. The good thing about Free
>> Software is the alternatives.
>>
> Indeed. Though I think you vastly overestimate how many people even think
> this
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 8:43 AM, wrote:
> On Sunday, March 02, 2014 12:00:41 AM Volker Birk wrote:
>> On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 02:17:05PM -0800, Leslie S Satenstein wrote:
>> > I am a casual Debian user and a person who has 50 years in IT. My
>> > first comment is that the direction that other Li
On Sunday, March 02, 2014 12:00:41 AM Volker Birk wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 02:17:05PM -0800, Leslie S Satenstein wrote:
> > I am a casual Debian user and a person who has 50 years in IT. My
> > first comment is that the direction that other Linux distributions are
> > taking is not the sy
On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 02:17:05PM -0800, Leslie S Satenstein wrote:
> I am a casual Debian user and a person who has 50 years in IT. My
> first comment is that the direction that other Linux distributions are
> taking is not the system V direction. I am not a Linux Internals
> person, but there
X SYSTEM.
>
> >
> >
> > From: "disbandtechc...@tfwno.gf"
> >
> >To: gentoo-u...@lists.gentoo.org
> >Cc: gentoo-de...@lists.gentoo.org; gentoo-proj...@lists.gentoo.org;
> >debian-security@lists.debian.org; debian
s.gentoo.org;
>debian-security@lists.debian.org; debian-au...@lists.debian.org
>Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2014 4:15 PM
>Subject: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely
>
>
>FOUR people made a decision that would once have required
>thousands o
FOUR people made a decision that would once have required
thousands of votes. FOUR votes overrideds the decision
debian took before the tech-ctte dictatorship to standardize
on system V init rather than bsd style init scripts
The tech-ctte was created to arbitrate and decide disputes
between pack
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