Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-09-02 Thread Jan-Hendrik Palic
Hi ... On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 04:54:32PM -0500, Rob Zietlow wrote: >So it's not as much of an insecurity in the connections, it's mostly a user >issue. Watch your keys, especially when they change unexpectedly (school >changes thiers every 6 months). Ok .. I thought of it ... :) Thnx for a

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-09-02 Thread Jan-Hendrik Palic
Hi ... On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 04:54:32PM -0500, Rob Zietlow wrote: >So it's not as much of an insecurity in the connections, it's mostly a user >issue. Watch your keys, especially when they change unexpectedly (school >changes thiers every 6 months). Ok .. I thought of it ... :) Thnx for

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-09-01 Thread Rob Zietlow
lic wrote: > Hi all... > > I have a small question. > > I found on SF a small tool, which may sniffing SSH and HTTPS (not > tested). > > The Url is : > > http://ettercap.sourceforge.net/ > > Is it possible? Are SSH und HTTPS

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-09-01 Thread Rob Zietlow
lic wrote: > Hi all... > > I have a small question. > > I found on SF a small tool, which may sniffing SSH and HTTPS (not > tested). > > The Url is : > > http://ettercap.sourceforge.net/ > > Is it possible? Are SSH und HTTPS

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-29 Thread Hubert Chan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > "Michael" == Michael Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] Michael> Ahhh, but this is quite easily guessable, since for most stuff Michael> you type, the server echos it. For passwords, it doesn't. Michael> i.e. just watch the SSH session, a

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-29 Thread Hubert Chan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > "Michael" == Michael Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] Michael> Ahhh, but this is quite easily guessable, since for most stuff Michael> you type, the server echos it. For passwords, it doesn't. Michael> i.e. just watch the SSH session,

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-29 Thread Ethan Benson
On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 01:40:20PM +0100, Eric E Moore wrote: > > "Michael" == Michael Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Michael> Ahhh, but this is quite easily guessable, since for most > Michael> stuff you type, the server echos it. For passwords, it > Michael> doesn't. i.e. just watch

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-29 Thread Eric E Moore
> "Michael" == Michael Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Ahhh, but this is quite easily guessable, since for most Michael> stuff you type, the server echos it. For passwords, it Michael> doesn't. i.e. just watch the SSH session, and when you see Michael> packets going to the server

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-29 Thread Ethan Benson
On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 01:40:20PM +0100, Eric E Moore wrote: > > "Michael" == Michael Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Michael> Ahhh, but this is quite easily guessable, since for most > Michael> stuff you type, the server echos it. For passwords, it > Michael> doesn't. i.e. just watc

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-29 Thread Eric E Moore
> "Michael" == Michael Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Ahhh, but this is quite easily guessable, since for most Michael> stuff you type, the server echos it. For passwords, it Michael> doesn't. i.e. just watch the SSH session, and when you see Michael> packets going to the server

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-29 Thread Michael Wood
On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 05:57:39PM -0600, Hubert Chan wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > "Richard" == Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > Richard> There also an analasis of the ssh packetstream > Richard> revealing the number of chars in the passwd.

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-29 Thread Michael Wood
On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 05:57:39PM -0600, Hubert Chan wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > "Richard" == Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > Richard> There also an analasis of the ssh packetstream > Richard> revealing the number of chars in the passwd

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-28 Thread Hubert Chan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > "Richard" == Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] Richard> There also an analasis of the ssh packetstream revealing the Richard> number of chars in the passwd. Small clarification: this may reveal the number of characters in any password

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-28 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 06:44:59PM +0200, Davy Gigan wrote: > Jan-Hendrik Palic writes: > > http://ettercap.sourceforge.net/ > > > > Is it possible? Are SSH und HTTPS connections unsecure and how do we > > make is secure than? > > old ssh protocol v1.5 IS a security hole, you can snif it. I d

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-28 Thread Hubert Chan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > "Richard" == Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] Richard> There also an analasis of the ssh packetstream revealing the Richard> number of chars in the passwd. Small clarification: this may reveal the number of characters in any passwor

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-28 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 06:44:59PM +0200, Davy Gigan wrote: > Jan-Hendrik Palic writes: > > http://ettercap.sourceforge.net/ > > > > Is it possible? Are SSH und HTTPS connections unsecure and how do we > > make is secure than? > > old ssh protocol v1.5 IS a security hole, you can snif it. I

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-28 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya and for the list of the rest of the sniffers to check out... http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Sniffer one of the boxes i had over the past 3 years was sniffed ... probably ssh-1.x series ... just didnt know how they did it 3 yrs ago - no damage done ... but a good trick... have fu

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-28 Thread Richard
On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Jan-Hendrik Palic wrote: > Hi all... > > I have a small question. > > I found on SF a small tool, which may sniffing SSH and HTTPS (not > tested). > > The Url is : > > http://ettercap.sourceforge.net/ > > Is it possible? Are SSH und H

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-28 Thread Davy Gigan
Jan-Hendrik Palic writes: > >Don't know for https, but that's not a surprise then. > > Why? https is based on ssl, so does ssh, if one can be sniffed, why wouln't it be same for the other ? I think (and i may (must) be wrong) that https sniffing is based on weakness of ssl when used in https (

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-28 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya and for the list of the rest of the sniffers to check out... http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Sniffer one of the boxes i had over the past 3 years was sniffed ... probably ssh-1.x series ... just didnt know how they did it 3 yrs ago - no damage done ... but a good trick... have f

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-28 Thread Davy Gigan
Jan-Hendrik Palic writes: > >Don't know for https, but that's not a surprise then. > > Why? Because of the sentence below : 'Remember there is no 100% secure software.' ;-) -- Davy Gigan System & Network Administration University Of Caen (France)

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-28 Thread Jan-Hendrik Palic
Hi .. On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 06:44:59PM +0200, Davy Gigan wrote: >Jan-Hendrik Palic writes: > > http://ettercap.sourceforge.net/ > > > > Is it possible? Are SSH und HTTPS connections unsecure and how do we > > make is secure than? >old ssh protocol v1.5 IS a security hole, you can snif it. I don

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-28 Thread Davy Gigan
Jan-Hendrik Palic writes: > http://ettercap.sourceforge.net/ > > Is it possible? Are SSH und HTTPS connections unsecure and how do we > make is secure than? old ssh protocol v1.5 IS a security hole, you can snif it. I don't know any vulnerability for the last OpenSSH_2.9p2 or OpenSSH_2.5.2p2

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-28 Thread Richard
On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Jan-Hendrik Palic wrote: > Hi all... > > I have a small question. > > I found on SF a small tool, which may sniffing SSH and HTTPS (not > tested). > > The Url is : > > http://ettercap.sourceforge.net/ > > Is it possible? Are SSH un

Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-28 Thread Jan-Hendrik Palic
Hi all... I have a small question. I found on SF a small tool, which may sniffing SSH and HTTPS (not tested). The Url is : http://ettercap.sourceforge.net/ Is it possible? Are SSH und HTTPS connections unsecure and how do we make is secure than? Greetings

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-28 Thread Davy Gigan
Jan-Hendrik Palic writes: > >Don't know for https, but that's not a surprise then. > > Why? https is based on ssl, so does ssh, if one can be sniffed, why wouln't it be same for the other ? I think (and i may (must) be wrong) that https sniffing is based on weakness of ssl when used in https (

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-28 Thread Davy Gigan
Jan-Hendrik Palic writes: > >Don't know for https, but that's not a surprise then. > > Why? Because of the sentence below : 'Remember there is no 100% secure software.' ;-) -- Davy Gigan System & Network Administration University Of Caen (France) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-28 Thread Jan-Hendrik Palic
Hi .. On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 06:44:59PM +0200, Davy Gigan wrote: >Jan-Hendrik Palic writes: > > http://ettercap.sourceforge.net/ > > > > Is it possible? Are SSH und HTTPS connections unsecure and how do we > > make is secure than? >old ssh protocol v1.5 IS a security hole, you can snif it. I do

Re: Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-28 Thread Davy Gigan
Jan-Hendrik Palic writes: > http://ettercap.sourceforge.net/ > > Is it possible? Are SSH und HTTPS connections unsecure and how do we > make is secure than? old ssh protocol v1.5 IS a security hole, you can snif it. I don't know any vulnerability for the last OpenSSH_2.9p2 or OpenSSH_2.5.2p

Sniffing SSH and HTTPS

2001-08-28 Thread Jan-Hendrik Palic
Hi all... I have a small question. I found on SF a small tool, which may sniffing SSH and HTTPS (not tested). The Url is : http://ettercap.sourceforge.net/ Is it possible? Are SSH und HTTPS connections unsecure and how do we make is secure than? Greetings