Re: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-08-14 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Nathan Valentine | I wish I could remember where I read this so that I could | provide a pointer. TCP/IP Illustrated V2. "Design and implementation of the 4.4 BSD operating system" has something about it, iirc. My book is about 500kms away, so I can't check. -- Tollef Fog Heen This is the

Re: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-08-08 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Nuno Faria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I haven't noticed any. I think that the original goal of pinging a > broadcast adress is to know which machines are on that network. When you > disable it, you just stop "announcing" your presence when someone asks > "who is on this network?". It is a serv

Re: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-08-08 Thread Nuno Faria
Micah Anderson wrote: > > Is there any detrimental effect to disabling broadcast ICMP on the Linux > side? Esseentiall doing a echo 1 > > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_broadcasts? > I haven't noticed any. I think that the original goal of pinging a broadcast adress is to know which machin

Re: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-08-08 Thread Micah Anderson
Is there any detrimental effect to disabling broadcast ICMP on the Linux side? Esseentiall doing a echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_broadcasts? On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 09:46:14AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 01:15:13PM +0100, Nuno Faria wrote: > > Ranko Vesel

Re: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-07-27 Thread Nuno Faria
Thank you very much for your help. I will now contact the person in charge of the local network and explain exactly what you have told me. I had already reported this attack but they were unable to solve the problem... If this doesn't work I will try to block these ping broadcasts at the local Uni

Re: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-07-27 Thread Nathan Valentine
* John Vivian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [000727 10:43]: > Just a small correction: the broadcast address is > (typically) .255, but a bit of experimentation has > shown that pings to .0 and .255 result in the same > response. You would be best to block both. I seem to remember

Re: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-07-27 Thread Nuno Faria
Thank you very much for your help. I will now contact the person in charge of the local network and explain exactly what you have told me. I had already reported this attack but they were unable to solve the problem... If this doesn't work I will try to block these ping broadcasts at the local Un

RE: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-07-27 Thread John Vivian
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 9:46 AM To: Nuno Faria Cc: debian-security@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked? On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 01:15:13PM +0100, Nuno Faria wrote: > Ranko Veselinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent me privatly the f

Re: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-07-27 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 01:15:13PM +0100, Nuno Faria wrote: > Ranko Veselinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent me privatly the followin > e-mail which I think might be relevant for the issue in question: > ___ > I'm not sure but I think when you send an ICMP ECHO-Request to a > broadc

Re: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-07-27 Thread Nathan Valentine
* John Vivian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [000727 10:43]: > Just a small correction: the broadcast address is > (typically) .255, but a bit of experimentation has > shown that pings to .0 and .255 result in the same > response. You would be best to block both. I seem to remember

Correction to Re: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-07-27 Thread Nuno Faria
I'm sorry, the first line of the previous e-mail is wrong! It was: I have tried: "tcpdump icmp > tcpdump_results2" and "tcpdump icmp > tcpdump_results3". it should have been: I have tried: "tcpdump icmp > tcpdump_results2" and "tcpdump icmp |grep request > tcpdump_results3". Nuno Faria

RE: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-07-27 Thread John Vivian
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 9:46 AM To: Nuno Faria Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked? On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 01:15:13PM +0100, Nuno Faria wrote: > Ranko Veselinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent me privatly the followin > e-

Re: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-07-27 Thread Nuno Faria
OK, it's done! I have tried: "tcpdump icmp > tcpdump_results2" and "tcpdump icmp > tcpdump_results3". The files are at: http://xenon4.fe.up.pt/tcpdump_results2 and http://xenon4.fe.up.pt/tcpdump_results3 Ranko Veselinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent me privatly the followin e-mail which I think migh

Re: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-07-27 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 01:15:13PM +0100, Nuno Faria wrote: > Ranko Veselinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent me privatly the followin > e-mail which I think might be relevant for the issue in question: > ___ > I'm not sure but I think when you send an ICMP ECHO-Request to a > broad

Re: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-07-27 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 08:56:21AM +0100, Nuno Faria wrote: > Yes, I had already noticed that when I ping a machine, the packets show > up in tcpdump as a series of echo-requests and echo-replys, but in this > case I can't find the echo-requests. Try "tcpdump icmp". That will show you all icmp tra

Correction to Re: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-07-27 Thread Nuno Faria
I'm sorry, the first line of the previous e-mail is wrong! It was: I have tried: "tcpdump icmp > tcpdump_results2" and "tcpdump icmp > tcpdump_results3". it should have been: I have tried: "tcpdump icmp > tcpdump_results2" and "tcpdump icmp |grep request > tcpdump_results3". Nuno Faria -

Re: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-07-27 Thread Nuno Faria
OK, it's done! I have tried: "tcpdump icmp > tcpdump_results2" and "tcpdump icmp > tcpdump_results3". The files are at: http://xenon4.fe.up.pt/tcpdump_results2 and http://xenon4.fe.up.pt/tcpdump_results3 Ranko Veselinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent me privatly the followin e-mail which I think mig

Re: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-07-27 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 08:56:21AM +0100, Nuno Faria wrote: > Yes, I had already noticed that when I ping a machine, the packets show > up in tcpdump as a series of echo-requests and echo-replys, but in this > case I can't find the echo-requests. Try "tcpdump icmp". That will show you all icmp tr

Re: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-07-27 Thread Nuno Faria
- > John Vivian > Exxecom > Network Security Analyst > ------------------ > > -Original Message- > From: Nuno Faria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 2:42 PM > To: debian-security@lists.debian.org > Su

Re: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-07-27 Thread Nuno Faria
- > John Vivian > Exxecom > Network Security Analyst > -------------- > > -Original Message- > From: Nuno Faria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 2:42 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: icmp:

Re: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-07-26 Thread Michel Verdier
John Vivian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : | A 'ping' consists of two types of ICMP packets; an "echo-request", | and an "echo-reply". | | Take a look at the network traffic for "echo-requests" from the | hosts | that your machine is sending the "echo-reply" to; you should

Re: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-07-26 Thread Michel Verdier
John Vivian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : | A 'ping' consists of two types of ICMP packets; an "echo-request", | and an "echo-reply". | | Take a look at the network traffic for "echo-requests" from the | hosts | that your machine is sending the "echo-reply" to; you should

RE: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-07-26 Thread John Vivian
Security Analyst -- -Original Message- From: Nuno Faria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 2:42 PM To: debian-security@lists.debian.org Subject: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked? Dear list members, First of all let

icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-07-26 Thread Nuno Faria
Dear list members, First of all let me state where I stand. I've been using Linux (Debian) for one year now. During this year I've learnt quite a lot but on the issue of network and security I'm a complete newby. Now I think I have a security problem (although it is not exclusively mine). The pr

RE: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-07-26 Thread John Vivian
Security Analyst -- -Original Message- From: Nuno Faria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 2:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked? Dear list members, First of all let me state whe

icmp: echo reply? Am I being attacked?

2000-07-26 Thread Nuno Faria
Dear list members, First of all let me state where I stand. I've been using Linux (Debian) for one year now. During this year I've learnt quite a lot but on the issue of network and security I'm a complete newby. Now I think I have a security problem (although it is not exclusively mine). The p