Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 11:02:14AM +, James Reggie Reilly wrote: > On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 12:18:37AM -0800, Tony Rodriguez wrote: > > YES, Please resurrect Debian on SPARC! I have a couple of T5140s and one > > T5120 that I would be love to continue running Debian on. > > > > Thanks, > > Tony

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

2015-11-19 16:35 GMT+01:00 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz < glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de>: > > What's the proper fix then? Preferably one that works on sparc (v8+) > as well. Just the 'mc_' :-) At least if it works with REG_O6, which I suspect it should since userland should load the glibc header rathe

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On 11/19/2015 04:29 PM, Romain Dolbeau wrote: > It seems the glibc-2.21 header > (sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/sparc/sys/ucontext.h) defines REG_O6 as well, > so that bit of the fix might not be necessary. It does use mc_gregs like > 3.16. That's the only fix I applied and it fixed the FTBFS. What's t

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On 11/19/2015 04:21 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> So perhaps: >> #define SIGSEGV_FAULT_STACKPOINTER ((ucontext_t *) >> ucp)->uc_mcontext.mc_gregs[MC_O6] > > I'll give that a shot. FIXED! Will upload the fixed package to "unreleased" right away. Does this have to be changed for sparc

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

2015-11-19 16:21 GMT+01:00 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz < glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de>: > > > So perhaps: > > #define SIGSEGV_FAULT_STACKPOINTER ((ucontext_t *) > > ucp)->uc_mcontext.mc_gregs[MC_O6] > > I'll give that a shot. > It seems the glibc-2.21 header (sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/sparc/sys/ucont

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On 11/19/2015 04:19 PM, Romain Dolbeau wrote: > Armchair quarterbacking here, but from my old copy of linux 3.16, the > registers from the windows are named mc_gregs not gregs. The definition > of "ucontext_t" is in > "linux-source-3.16/arch/sparc/include/uapi/asm/uctx.h". It's also not > REG_O6 bu

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

2015-11-19 16:05 GMT+01:00 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz < glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de>: > > https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=libsigsegv&arch=sparc64&ver=2.10-4&stamp=1447500379 > If you have any idea on how to fix this issue, I would be more than > happy to integrate your patch :). Ar

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

Hi David! On 11/18/2015 01:53 AM, David Matthew Mattli wrote: > I'm a programmer and I've been looking for a way to become more involved > with Debian, if you'd be interested in my help. Great! > This past summer I spent some time investigating failed Debian/sparc > builds. The main issues I fou

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > On 11/13/2015 12:02 PM, James Reggie Reilly wrote: >> Huge SPARC fan, would love to keep debian running on the arch. In a week >> or so I should have a T2000 I can dedicate to buildd/testing and am >> willing to help out however I can. > > We could actually set

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On 11/13/2015 05:17 PM, Artyom Tarasenko wrote: >> V8 supports more software (e.g., JavaScript JIT is not supported on >> V9) and more older hardware. > > I think JavaScript JIT is supported for v8plus which actually requires a V9 > CPU, > (it's a 64bit ABI with 32bit pointers, so v8/v8plus/v9 co

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 12:55 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > My intention to revive "sparc" is because it uses the V8 instruction > set as opposed to the V9 instruction set used by "sparc64". Wow, that's ambitious! AFAIR the last V8 Debian was Etch. > V8 supports more software (e.g., J

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

2015-11-13 12:55 GMT+01:00 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz < glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de>: > My intention to revive "sparc" is because it uses the V8 instruction > set as opposed to the V9 instruction set used by "sparc64". V8 > supports more software (e.g., JavaScript JIT is not supported on > V9) and

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 12:55:24PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Aurelien Jarno, who is the "gate keeper" for the Debian Ports > infrastructure, asked me to present a team of at least 3 people > who would be willing to dedicate some of their time to the > port. The more, the better.

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On 11/13/2015 12:02 PM, James Reggie Reilly wrote: > Huge SPARC fan, would love to keep debian running on the arch. In a week > or so I should have a T2000 I can dedicate to buildd/testing and am > willing to help out however I can. We could actually set this one up as a buildd for sparc (32 bits)

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 12:18:37AM -0800, Tony Rodriguez wrote: > YES, Please resurrect Debian on SPARC! I have a couple of T5140s and one > T5120 that I would be love to continue running Debian on. > > Thanks, > Tony > +1 Huge SPARC fan, would love to keep debian running on the arch. In a wee

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On 11/13/2015 10:52 AM, Tony Rodriguez wrote: > PS - Will you please provide any additional instructions and specify any > links needed to ensure I download from the correct sparc64 repo? For sparc64, the following has been verified to work: $ debootstrap --no-check-gpg --arch=sparc64 --foreign u

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

Hi Tony, Tony Rodriguez schreef op 2015-11-13 10:52: Thanks I am new to the debootstrap command but I plan to install an older wheezy imagine using the sparc cd iso and then execute debootstrap. The debian website https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap states: "To setup a Wheezy

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

Thanks I am new to the debootstrap command but I plan to install an older wheezy imagine using the sparc cd iso and then execute debootstrap. The debian website https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap states: "To setup a Wheezy system: main # cd / main # mkdir

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On 11/13/2015 09:18 AM, Tony Rodriguez wrote: > YES, Please resurrect Debian on SPARC! I have a couple of T5140s and one > T5120 that I would be love to continue running Debian on. You already can. You'll just have to install the machine using debootstrap for the time being until we are able to cr

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

YES, Please resurrect Debian on SPARC! I have a couple of T5140s and one T5120 that I would be love to continue running Debian on. Thanks, Tony

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On 10/30/2015 01:29 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 10/30/2015 01:34 PM, Jose E. Marchesi wrote: >> Cary is working on it. He mentioned that supporting the >> STT_SPARC_REGISTER symbols will require some work on the >> target-independent code of gold, so it may take a while. >> >> Can't

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On 10/30/2015 01:34 PM, Jose E. Marchesi wrote: > Cary is working on it. He mentioned that supporting the > STT_SPARC_REGISTER symbols will require some work on the > target-independent code of gold, so it may take a while. > > Can't libsystemd be linked with ld/bfd instead of gold? Not sure. I'

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

> I've a SunFire 280r which I'd really like to see running Jessie to be > used for compiling gcc-5.2 and gnu modula-2 amongst other things We still have to wait for this rather serious upstream issue [1] in binutils to be resolved before we can continue with any serious work

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On 10/29/2015 10:06 PM, Gaius Mulley wrote: > I've a SunFire 280r which I'd really like to see running Jessie to be > used for compiling gcc-5.2 and gnu modula-2 amongst other things We still have to wait for this rather serious upstream issue [1] in binutils to be resolved before we can continue

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

Hi, +1 vote for resurrecting debian on sparc. I've a SunFire 280r which I'd really like to see running Jessie to be used for compiling gcc-5.2 and gnu modula-2 amongst other things regards, Gaius

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On 10/13/2015 12:21 AM, Frans van Berckel wrote: On Thu, 2015-10-08 at 11:44 +1100, James Morris wrote: FYI, Oracle developers have been working on Sparc Linux (as some may have noticed from lkml commits). We've just made an initial cut of this available publicly, for the purposes of sharing i

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On Thu, 2015-10-08 at 11:44 +1100, James Morris wrote: > FYI, > > Oracle developers have been working on Sparc Linux (as some may have > noticed from lkml commits). We've just made an initial cut of this > available publicly, for the purposes of sharing it with the wider > community. > > See h

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

James Morris wrote: FYI, Oracle developers have been working on Sparc Linux (as some may have noticed from lkml commits). We've just made an initial cut of this available publicly, for the purposes of sharing it with the wider community. See https://oss.oracle.com/projects/linux-sparc/ Th

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

Hi James! > On Oct 8, 2015, at 9:44 AM, James Morris wrote: > > FYI, > > Oracle developers have been working on Sparc Linux (as some may have noticed > from lkml commits). We've just made an initial cut of this available > publicly, for the purposes of sharing it with the wider community. T

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

FYI, Oracle developers have been working on Sparc Linux (as some may have noticed from lkml commits). We've just made an initial cut of this available publicly, for the purposes of sharing it with the wider community. See https://oss.oracle.com/projects/linux-sparc/ There are some mailing l

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On 09/15/2015 12:07 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > === > > gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../../usbhid-dump/src -I.. > -I/«PKGBUILDDIR»/usbhid-dump/include > -I/«PKGBUILDDIR»/build-deb/usbhid-dump > -I/«PKGBUILDDIR»/build-de

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

Oh one more thing I noticed: I have to run the debootstrap --second-stage twice to get it to fully install. Not sure if this is normal but I thought I'd mention it. Rod On 9/25/2015 11:32 AM, rod wrote: > Good afternoon, > > Having re-read all of these emails again, I have two questions (before

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

Good afternoon, Having re-read all of these emails again, I have two questions (before I go find another machine to play on so I don't mess this one (raverin) up): 1) in my efforts to setup my own chroot build environment I have created it using the debootstrap command as discussed and created a

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On 09/23/2015 12:57 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> In general should I start tracking errors from the bottom of the build >> log or from the first error/warning that shows up? > > Depends on the errors. If you run into a simple Oops, looks like I got distracted in the middle of the sente

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On 09/22/2015 06:45 PM, rod wrote: > When building packages (in this case mozjs), where is the proper > place/forum to post questions about the errors (assuming I've > searched/googled/experimented/tried to trace the error(s) on my own first)? I cannot give you a canonical answer to this. But usua

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

More a question of mechanics and proper ways of doing things... When building packages (in this case mozjs), where is the proper place/forum to post questions about the errors (assuming I've searched/googled/experimented/tried to trace the error(s) on my own first)? In general should I start trac

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On 09/15/2015 12:07 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > === > > And some just segfault during build [2]: > > === > > /usr/bin/xsltproc -o man/bootup.7 --none

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On 09/18/2015 09:41 PM, rod wrote: > 1) the installation we've done sets up a minimun "system" and things > like network config, wget, and other programs need to be copied into the > system to make them work? I think you misunderstood. The chroot is solely used for *building* a package, not anythi

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

Good afternoon, I seem to have gotten the chroot to function. Not know much about them and searching for answers I still have the following questions (and if you point me in the right direction I'll read, search, try, and then ask more questions): 1) the installation we've done sets up a minimun

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

Not calling myself an idiot but...I'll go find my shoes. ;) I have no excuse. Time to dig back into the man page(s) and see if I can glean anything more. Rod Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 18, 2015, at 01:40, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > > On 09/18/2015 03:42 AM, rod wrote:> So... >>

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On 09/18/2015 04:19 AM, Bob Bib wrote: > sparc arch removal also affected some SPARC-specific packages[1] (e. g., > "SILO" bootloader). Yes, I am fully aware of that. We have the same problem on all other ports like hppa which require a bootloader which cannot be uploaded to unstable when it's onl

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On 09/18/2015 03:42 AM, rod wrote:> So... > Following the directions given (on two different machines just to make > sure) I get to the point where I try to use dpkg -i to install the > downloaded file and I end up with this error: > > I have no name!@ravirin:/# dpkg -i libpcre3_8.35-7.1+sparc64_s

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

Just a note: sparc arch removal also affected some SPARC-specific packages[1] (e. g., "SILO" bootloader). According to Aurelien Jarno,[2] they should be re-uploaded to "unreleased". [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2015/07/msg00037.html [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2015/08/

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

So... Following the directions given (on two different machines just to make sure) I get to the point where I try to use dpkg -i to install the downloaded file and I end up with this error: I have no name!@ravirin:/# dpkg -i libpcre3_8.35-7.1+sparc64_sparc64.deb dpkg: error while loading shared li

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On 09/17/2015 05:26 PM, rod wrote: > In my efforts to help this along I am trying to set up a chroot > environment for testing. I have tried multistrap and sbuild setup from > the debian wiki and from various places found whilst googling. To date > I've not had any success. There is no real tric

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On Tuesday 15 September 2015 12:07:10 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hi! > > I was wondering how many here are still interested in the Debian > SPARC port? count ++ Hartwig

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

Good morning, In my efforts to help this along I am trying to set up a chroot environment for testing. I have tried multistrap and sbuild setup from the debian wiki and from various places found whilst googling. To date I've not had any success. Is there a HOW-TO somewhere for setting up a chro

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 9:32 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz < glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de> wrote: > On 09/15/2015 04:10 PM, waz0wski wrote: > > I would love to see Debian-on-SPARC continue on, even if not fully > > supported, similar to how the FreeBSD project handles sparc64[1] > > Ok, the questi

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

I like the idea of maintaining sparc32. It seems as if we have the machines. I guess it's getting the talent to do the programming. Being a noob when it comes to maintaining I'm open for learning and direction. I will continue to pursue, ask questions, and such for my own knowledge and to help the

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

On 09/15/2015 04:10 PM, waz0wski wrote: > I would love to see Debian-on-SPARC continue on, even if not fully > supported, similar to how the FreeBSD project handles sparc64[1] Ok, the question is: Do we want sparc32 as well or just sparc64? As I mentioned already, sparc32 (32-bit userland and 64-b

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

I would love to see Debian-on-SPARC continue on, even if not fully supported, similar to how the FreeBSD project handles sparc64[1] I have access to a couple of UltraSPARC T2 systems (T5220/T5440) which could be made available for development and testing purposes -- ping me off-list for more in

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

Hello, I would love to resurrect debian sparc 64, I can provide 2 t2000 Sun fires, and one v880, which are not on line at the moment, but I will use them for testing. Also is there someone who made a CD image for a newer debian version to put on my Sun, so I don't have to build my own? Greetings

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

Hi Frans! On 09/15/2015 12:51 PM, Frans van Berckel wrote: > Seen the Gold linker bug on sparc64? Do you think it's related? > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=790560 > https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=18855 Indeed, that looks like it. Thanks for the heads-up!

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

Hi Adrian, On Tue, 2015-09-15 at 12:07 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hi! > > I was wondering how many here are still interested in the Debian > SPARC port? > > In the past weeks, I have invested some efforts to revive the sparc64 > port a bit and managed to get at least gcc-5 compile

Re: Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

Hello, On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:07:10PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > I was wondering how many here are still interested in the Debian > SPARC port? Interest is there, but unfortunately nearly no time during the next 6 Months. > In the past weeks, I have invested some efforts to re

Resurrecting Debian on SPARC

Hi! I was wondering how many here are still interested in the Debian SPARC port? In the past weeks, I have invested some efforts to revive the sparc64 port a bit and managed to get at least gcc-5 compile and work through the build queue a bit. Rod Schnell, a user from the US, kindly donated an Ul