Re: X Windows

1996-05-16 Thread Dale Scheetz
OK, so, I used xdm to start X and things work fine. When I exit fvwm2 I get a login prompt. Now, I want to shut down the server. A. I can find no xdm process either with ps a or top. Is it hiding? 2. I can find the server in the list, but of course, when I kill it xdm restarts it. D. I remember

Re: X Windows

1996-05-16 Thread Stephen Early
On Thu, 16 May 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > /etc/init.d/xdm stop > > > When I run the script it seems to run ok, produces no output, and returns > the prompt. However, killing fvwm2 still produces a new login screen (even > when you do it several times). 'ps a' still shows no xdm process. I see

Re: Problem with web site

1996-05-16 Thread J.H.M.Dassen
> a couple of weeks ago I reported a problem with the web site: > > >I have a problem with the Debian web site: http://www.debian.org/ > >The "Name", "Description", and "Maintainer" fields of some of the packages > >are > >empty, trying to download such a package results in an "Unknown URL" error

Re: X Windows

1996-05-16 Thread Stephen Early
On Thu, 16 May 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote: > OK, so, I used xdm to start X and things work fine. When I exit fvwm2 I > get a login prompt. Now, I want to shut down the server. > > A. I can find no xdm process either with ps a or top. Is it hiding? No, it should be there. You should be able to kill

Re: disabling daemons from init.d

1996-05-16 Thread Ian Jackson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes ("Re: disabling daemons from init.d"): > > Simply remove the S* links from the rc?.d > > I had a similar problem. If I install a package and move its cronjob from > cron.weekly to cron.dayly, will the cron-file be replaced on an update? > Wouldnt it be better to store all

Re: which..

1996-05-16 Thread Rob Browning
> "R" == Richard Dansereau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: R> Is the command "which" available in any of the debian releases? I R> haven't seen it yet in 0.93R6 though I don't have everything R> installed so I may have missed it. I would say that Debian needs a FAQ for this, but after the new r

Re: which

1996-05-16 Thread Austin Donnelly
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >Is the command "which" available in any of the debian releases? >I haven't seen it yet in 0.93R6 though I don't have everything >installed so I may have missed it. 'which' is in debian-utils-1.0-1. In general, you can find programs by doing: zgrep pro

what happened to dpkg-ftp?

1996-05-16 Thread Brian K Servis
Does anybody know what happened to dpkg-ftp? I can't find it anywhere. I have looked in all the directories on ftp.debian.org and have searched the ls-lR file with no luck. I am wanting to look into doing an 1.1 upgrade over a ppp dial-up connection during the middle of the night. This brings

Re: X Windows

1996-05-16 Thread William S. Gribble
xdm runs the server for you. Kill your X server, and run xdm as root. It starts the server, gives you a login greeting and prompt, and then runs the appropriate window manager and so on after you log in. When you log out, it kills the server and starts a new one with the login greeting. Bill

Re: Problem with web site

1996-05-16 Thread Matthew Bailey
I just noticed that /usr/tmp was a link to /var/tmp with /var being part of / of course I was working in /usr/tmp :) All fixed theres 30megs in there now :) Matthew S. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: uninstalled packages in 'dpkg -l'

1996-05-16 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, 15 May 1996, Maarten Boekhold wrote: > I always thought that 'dpkg -l' was supposed to show you all *installed* > packages, but, when I do a: dpkg -l 'ncurses*' on my system, I get: > > Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge > | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half

Re: beta 1.1 problems with 3c503 and the debian search system.

1996-05-16 Thread James D. Freels
>no problems using the 3c503. All I had to do was to list the driver in >/etc/modules. Also, when you try to load the driver by hand, make sure >you use modprobe, not insmod, as the 3c503 is layered on top of >another module. And make sure you run depmod at least once - the new >/etc/init.d/modules

Re: X Windows

1996-05-16 Thread Stephen Early
On Thu, 16 May 1996, Craig Sanders wrote: > i don't use xdm at the moment, just startx. > > Is it possible to get xdm to put a login prompt on more than one vc? > > e.g. have xdm login screens on vc 3,4,5,6 > > so i can login on vc3 but let other people share my machine in X windows > without

Re: octave

1996-05-16 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Wed, 15 May 1996, Olivier Abad wrote: > Hi, > I can't get octave-1.1.1-2 to work correctly on my 1.1 system. I get > the following error messages: > > > octave > error: failed to load symbols from `/usr/bin/octave.bin' > Octave, version 1.1.1. > Copyright (C) 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995 John W. Ea

Re: X Windows

1996-05-16 Thread Stephen Early
On Wed, 15 May 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote: > When I try xdm as a user (with the server up and running via root) I get > told: > Only root wants to use xdm > Have I got some permissions wrong? Or have I just missunderstood...again. You have misunderstood. When it is set up correctly, xdm can be star

Re: Must pppd be run by root?

1996-05-16 Thread Rick Macdonald
Craig Sanders wrote: > > > The ppp package should have a 'ppp' group, pppd should be owned by > > > root.ppp and it should be mode 1750. > > > > Can we make that "dialout", please? Something already present and used > > by (at least) dip and efax. > > I suppose that would do the job, but what

Re: X Windows

1996-05-16 Thread Kevin M Bealer
On Thu, 16 May 1996, Craig Sanders wrote: (clip) > Is it possible to get xdm to put a login prompt on more than one vc? > > e.g. have xdm login screens on vc 3,4,5,6 > > so i can login on vc3 but let other people share my machine in X windows > without having to log out...just press ctrl-alt-F4

Re: network with ETHERLINK 3

1996-05-16 Thread Carlo U. Segre
On Wed, 15 May 1996, Dan Halbert wrote: > >I am unable to configure my system with a EtherLink III ( 3C509B-TP ). > >Does any body had this kind of problem before. > > I have heard several times that this is due to the card's support for > Plug'N'Play. You can get around this either by bootin

Re: Must pppd be run by root?

1996-05-16 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, 15 May 1996, Rick Macdonald wrote: > OK. This tells sudo that me and root (also me) can execute anything > on any machine. Also, everyone can execute pppd. You could of course > clamp this down to a list of users. or just have a ppp group and configure sudo to allow users in group ppp ex

can't remove print jobs :-(

1996-05-16 Thread Carlos Carvalho
We have a print server just upgraded to 1.1. When we submit jobs from another machine it prints is fine. However, if we try to lprm from the machine where we issued the lpr, we get print_server: : permission denied (one more line with permission denied) Even root cannot remove the job. If the sa

Re: X Windows

1996-05-16 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, 14 May 1996, Kevin M Bealer wrote: > > When I decide what I want to add, how do I hang it on the menu > > system? Is there a good user tutorial? In particular, I can start > > the xserver either as root or as a user, but I can't seem to do > > both. Once root cranks up the xserver, how do

Re: which..

1996-05-16 Thread Chris Walker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Is the command "which" available in any of the debian releases? > I haven't seen it yet in 0.93R6 though I don't have everything > installed so I may have missed it. > > Cheers! > Richard.. Here's a simple shell script I've installed in /usr/local/bin to perform the

Re: Must pppd be run by root?

1996-05-16 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, 14 May 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The ppp package should have a 'ppp' group, pppd should be owned by > > root.ppp and it should be mode 1750. > > Can we make that "dialout", please? Something already present and used > by (at least) dip and efax. I suppose that would do the j

Re: follow up on bs/del

1996-05-16 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, 15 May 1996, Guy Maor wrote: > On Thu, 16 May 1996, Craig Sanders wrote: > > yeah, but isn't "CFLAGS=-O2 make" the same as "export CFLAGS=-O2 ; > > make" as far as make is concerned? > yes. > > > Carlos' script should have worked because that was basically what he > > was doing. > Oh, sor

Re: X Windows

1996-05-16 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin M Bealer) wrote on 15.05.96 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 'pico' is good for a unix newbie. If you are used to the ancestral wordstar > command set that many dos editors use (even windoze borrows from it ^V=paste > etc.), "joe" (which is my editor of choice) is good. joe is

Re: Unidentified subject!

1996-05-16 Thread Bill Wohler
Gerry Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anyone know of an easy way to make it so that > cron.daily/weekly/monthly jobs get executed even if the system is not on > at the specified time? > > For instance, I typically only run my home system an hour or two per > day. How could I make it

Re: uninstalled packages in 'dpkg -l'

1996-05-16 Thread Carlo U. Segre
On Wed, 15 May 1996, Maarten Boekhold wrote: > Hi, > > I always thought that 'dpkg -l' was supposed to show you all *installed* > packages, but, when I do a: dpkg -l 'ncurses*' on my system, I get: > > Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge > | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-con

Problem with web site

1996-05-16 Thread Markus Diesmann
Hi, a couple of weeks ago I reported a problem with the web site: >I have a problem with the Debian web site: http://www.debian.org/ >The "Name", "Description", and "Maintainer" fields of some of the packages are >empty, trying to download such a package results in an "Unknown URL" error. Ray re

Re: Instructions for upgrade to v1.1

1996-05-16 Thread Dale Scheetz
The following is the latest of my upgrade notes. The UpGrade script is slightly improved (it can now handle # comment lines). I have also included the, as yet not completely fixed, devel section list at the end of this document. It will upgrade you to a development system that will build a new kern

Re: Must pppd be run by root?

1996-05-16 Thread Rick Macdonald
Craig Sanders wrote: > > On Wed, 15 May 1996, Rick Macdonald wrote: > > > OK. This tells sudo that me and root (also me) can execute anything > > on any machine. Also, everyone can execute pppd. You could of course > > clamp this down to a list of users. > > or just have a ppp group and configur

Re: follow up on bs/del

1996-05-16 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, 15 May 1996, Guy Maor wrote: > On Wed, 15 May 1996, Craig Sanders wrote: > > try my script and see if it makes any difference. Maybe the > > variables DO have to be explicitly exported. > > They do. Otherwise they're only seen in the shell and not in any > program or subshell. The envi

A few more problems with 1.1

1996-05-16 Thread Scott Barker
I have noticed two more problems with 1.1 First, after upgrading from 0.93R6, I'm left with a file /tmp/base.postinst (I assume the base package didn't clean itself up properly -- I removed the auto cleaning of /tmp and /var/tmp from the crontabs and boot scripts). Second, the '-' used in syslog.

Changing display mode in X

1996-05-16 Thread Dale Scheetz
I spent several hours last night looking through the various docs I have on X, looking for a remembered reference to the key strokes necessary for changing the display mode while in X. I was unable to find the reference. I did find hints that the default mode could be changed but can't figure out h

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Re: Unidentified subject!

1996-05-16 Thread Kevin M Bealer
On Wed, 15 May 1996, Gerry Jensen wrote: > Does anyone know of an easy way to make it so that > cron.daily/weekly/monthly jobs get executed even if the system is not on > at the specified time? (clip) > > For instance, I typically only run my home system an hour or two per > day. How could I

Re: minicom..

1996-05-16 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miquel van Smoorenburg) wrote on 15.05.96 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Edit /etc/group and add yourself to the "dialout" group. I believe the easiest way to do that is to do, as root, # adduser yourself dialout MfG Kai

Re: disabling daemons from init.d

1996-05-16 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, 14 May 1996, eckes wrote: > > Simply remove the S* links from the rc?.d > > I had a similar problem. If I install a package and move its cronjob > from cron.weekly to cron.dayly, will the cron-file be replaced on an > update? Wouldnt it be better to store all cron scripts in cron.d > lik

which..

1996-05-16 Thread Richard . Dansereau
Is the command "which" available in any of the debian releases? I haven't seen it yet in 0.93R6 though I don't have everything installed so I may have missed it. Cheers! Richard.. - Richard Dansereau Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: xtel-3.0.7-1 uploaded to master.debian.org

1996-05-16 Thread Christophe Le Bars
> hi for us people in the US > can you explain what Minitel is? > Thanks > Charles > (intriguing name) It's a little hard to explain this... But i'll try to add a small explanation in the next xtel released package... (in 2 words, Minitel is a 80's, 75bauds, 5FF/mm, alphanumeric French Web!)

uninstalled packages in 'dpkg -l'

1996-05-16 Thread Maarten Boekhold
Hi, I always thought that 'dpkg -l' was supposed to show you all *installed* packages, but, when I do a: dpkg -l 'ncurses*' on my system, I get: Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=bDe

Re: follow up on bs/del

1996-05-16 Thread Guy Maor
On Thu, 16 May 1996, Craig Sanders wrote: > yeah, but isn't "CFLAGS=-O2 make" the same as "export CFLAGS=-O2 ; make" > as far as make is concerned? yes. > Carlos' script should have worked because that was basically what he was > doing. Oh, sorry, I didn't see the '\'s. Guy

Re: beta 1.1 problems with 3c503 and the debian search system.

1996-05-16 Thread Lukas Nellen
> "James" == "James D Freels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: James> I have just installed the root and base diskettes and James> performed a basic configuration of v 1.1 on a raw system. James> I have a 3com 3c503 ethernet card that is apparently not James> recognized. I seem to

Re: follow up on bs/del

1996-05-16 Thread Guy Maor
On Wed, 15 May 1996, Craig Sanders wrote: > try my script and see if it makes any difference. Maybe the variables DO > have to be explicitly exported. They do. Otherwise they're only seen in the shell and not in any program or subshell. The environment is the same whether you exec or run fvwm.

octave

1996-05-16 Thread Olivier Abad
Hi, I can't get octave-1.1.1-2 to work correctly on my 1.1 system. I get the following error messages: > octave error: failed to load symbols from `/usr/bin/octave.bin' Octave, version 1.1.1. Copyright (C) 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995 John W. Eaton. This is free software with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. Fo

Re: find question (and xargs)

1996-05-16 Thread Richard Kettlewell
>>find / -size +459976c -noleaf -type f -name '*.deb'|\ >>xargs -n 1 dpkg-split -s {} && rm {} >> >>I was thinking that {} would be replaced by the filename but that's >>not the case. Anyone know how to solve this? > >It's find that does the replacing. None of the {}s are in the find >arguments,

Instructions for upgrade to v1.1

1996-05-16 Thread Doug Federman
I have been to locate the instructions to upgrade from v0.93 to v1.1. I would appreciate someone pointing me in the right direction or a reposting of the scripts/instructions. Thank you.

Re: network with ETHERLINK 3

1996-05-16 Thread Carlo U. Segre
On Tue, 14 May 1996, Patrick Hernaelsteen wrote: > I am unable to configure my system with a EtherLink III ( 3C509B-TP ). > Does any body had this kind of problem before. > Thanks for helping me, The 3COM Etherlink III card is supported but it may not be in the base system's kernel. In that ca

Re: X Windows

1996-05-16 Thread Carlo U. Segre
On Wed, 15 May 1996, Kevin M Bealer wrote: > > It is recommended you copy system.fvwmrc to ~/.fvwmrc to have a private copy > and edit that. > Not if I don't like the system default and I want to have my own for all the users! Cheers, Carlo *

Re: network with ETHERLINK 3

1996-05-16 Thread Dan Halbert
>I am unable to configure my system with a EtherLink III ( 3C509B-TP ). >Does any body had this kind of problem before. I have heard several times that this is due to the card's support for Plug'N'Play. You can get around this either by booting to DOS first and loading the drivers for the card