Debian Etch 3 on Sata Drives

2006-08-28 Thread Roy Juarez
Hi, I have quite a problem in the installation of the Debian Etch 3 on my new PC Server. I have an Intel Pentium 4 3.73GHz HTT, Extreme Edition on an Intel D955XBK Motherboard, with 2GB memory, 3 x 160GB SATA Hard Disks. The 3 drives will be configured on a RAID 5. I have been googling for

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Mumia W.
On 08/28/2006 10:09 PM, Marc Wilson wrote: On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 05:36:48PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Oddly enough I open up Thunderbird which connects to my IMAP store and it knows how much new mail is in each folder without me going into them. Of course this process works *so* well in t

Re: How to "upgrade" a dpkg with a .deb

2006-08-28 Thread [KS]
Paul Dwerryhouse wrote: > On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 11:17:52PM -0500, Matt England wrote: >> How can one upgrade an installed dpkg with a .deb file, much the same way >> one can run: >>rpm -Uhv >> using rpm? I was hoping for a >>dpkg -u >> command, but I don't see this or anything like it

Re: How to "upgrade" a dpkg with a .deb

2006-08-28 Thread Ivan Aleman
2006/8/29, Matt England <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: How can one upgrade an installed dpkg with a .deb file, much the same way one can run: rpm -Uhv using rpm? I was hoping for a dpkg -u Any suggestions, tips? You can install any package using dpkg -i read the man for more info -- I

How to "upgrade" a dpkg with a .deb

2006-08-28 Thread Matt England
How can one upgrade an installed dpkg with a .deb file, much the same way one can run: rpm -Uhv using rpm? I was hoping for a dpkg -u command, but I don't see this or anything like it. I can't find anything in apt-get's man page, either. Any suggestions, tips? -Matt -- To UNS

Re: Making Firefox use certain fonts for printing (was: Re: Highlighting and annotating PDFs?)

2006-08-28 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Rogério Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.27.2018 +0200]: > So, in light of this, would anybody know how to tell Firefox to > explicitly use some given fonts in what it prints? You can probably add a user stylesheet with @media selectors: @media print { body { font-family: foo

Re: How to "upgrade" a dpkg with a .deb

2006-08-28 Thread Paul Dwerryhouse
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 11:17:52PM -0500, Matt England wrote: > How can one upgrade an installed dpkg with a .deb file, much the same way > one can run: >rpm -Uhv > using rpm? I was hoping for a >dpkg -u > command, but I don't see this or anything like it. dpkg -i is the equivalent o

How to "upgrade" a dpkg with a .deb

2006-08-28 Thread Matt England
How can one upgrade an installed dpkg with a .deb file, much the same way one can run: rpm -Uhv using rpm? I was hoping for a dpkg -u command, but I don't see this or anything like it. I can't find anything in apt-get's man page, either. Any suggestions, tips? -Matt -- To UNSU

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: >> That is according to a set of rules. A limited set of rules but those >> *are* rules. > You just pulled a "Paul". Didn't just move to Oregon, did you? That's not a Paul. If you note the Marc asked for "a set of rules". Those are a set of rules.

Re: Strange Boxes instead of letter-font in X

2006-08-28 Thread Arthur Marsh
Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2006-08-18 22:31:45, schrieb Arthur Marsh: Thanks, installing xfonts-100dpi-transcoded and xfonts-75dpi-transcoded and running fc-cache -v You do not need this, since the packages do it automaticaly while installing. I've had a few cases where fc-cache didn't g

Re: IMAP clients and servers with SASL DIGEST-MD5

2006-08-28 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 03:59:46AM +0100, John Kelly wrote: > On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:21:14 -0400, "Roberto C. Sanchez" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 04:31:46PM +0100, John Kelly wrote: > > >> When searching for IMAP clients and servers with SASL DIGEST-MD5, I'm > >> o

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Lamb wrote: > Marc Wilson wrote: >> Uhhh, no. Either you delete all but the last n messages, or you delete >> messages older than n days. That's not "according to a set of rules". >> That's remarkably inflexible. > > That is according to a

Re: IMAP clients and servers with SASL DIGEST-MD5

2006-08-28 Thread John Kelly
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:21:14 -0400, "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 04:31:46PM +0100, John Kelly wrote: >> When searching for IMAP clients and servers with SASL DIGEST-MD5, I'm >> overwhelmed by outdated information and dead projects. >Why not use PLAIN

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marc Wilson wrote: > On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 05:39:56PM -0600, djhack wrote: >> Thunderbird - Copies entire message at reply. Works fine on my box. > > For all you thunderbird users... > > 1) when will thunderbird finally gain "reply to list"? I cou

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Marc Wilson wrote: > Uhhh, no. Either you delete all but the last n messages, or you delete > messages older than n days. That's not "according to a set of rules". > That's remarkably inflexible. That is according to a set of rules. A limited set of rules but those *are* rules. > Oh, and a

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marc Wilson wrote: > On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 07:00:26PM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 05:39:56PM -0600, djhack wrote: >>> Thunderbird - Copies entire message at reply. Works fine on my box. >> For all you thunderbird users... >

[OT] Business using POP (was Re: Email programs that work.)

2006-08-28 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Lamb wrote: > Marc Wilson wrote: [snip] > But unlike many people I acknowledge that mail clients can be > used in a variety of manners. Just because I no longer have use > of POP now doesn't mean that I won't in the future nor that > anyone else

Re: Error 21

2006-08-28 Thread Katipo
Marc Wilson wrote: >On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 04:09:12PM -0500, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > >>I mean, come on, give them a chance to at least learn. >> >> > >I've yet to meet a single one hiding behind the "noob" excuse that had the >slightest interest in learning anything at all. > > I thin

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marc Wilson wrote: > On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 05:36:48PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: [snip] > We'll leave aside the asinine idea that a collapsed message > thread with new messages in it is not itself highlighted like the > unread messages are. Such threa

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 08:15:11PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > > 4) how can I cause thunderbird to automatically purge a set of mail folders > > according to a set of rules? Or does that require one of those pesky > > additional programs? What if the mail isn't local? > > Uhhh, right click?

Re: KDE being removed?

2006-08-28 Thread Katipo
Kent West wrote: > edwardsa wrote: > >> Katipo wrote: >> >>> edwardsa wrote: >>> >>> >>> Ron Johnson wrote: > edwardsa wrote: > > > > >> I was doing an dist-upgrade and kde was being removed. Should I be >> concerned? >>

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Marc Wilson wrote: > Oh, no... not at all. Thunderbird doesn't require *any* fiddling > whatsoever. I never said that, nice strawman. > Feh. Who does Steve Lamb think he's kidding, anyway? No one. I stand by what I said. I've never once led on that TBird doesn't have warts. But cosm

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 07:00:26PM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 05:39:56PM -0600, djhack wrote: > > Thunderbird - Copies entire message at reply. Works fine on my box. > > For all you thunderbird users... And another one... 6) dialogs that obviously need scroll bars that d

Re: Error 21

2006-08-28 Thread Katipo
Damon L. Chesser wrote: > Marc Wilson wrote: > >> On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 11:27:08AM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: >> >> >>> As someone who was once a total noob with linux, >>> I assure you a file server does need a windowing >>> system. >>> >> >> >> To serve what possible need? How does se

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Marc Wilson
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 04:10:34AM +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote: > Hello Marc. > > > 1) when will thunderbird finally gain "reply to list"? I could have sworn > > I saw a patch go by not too long ago somewhere. > > Officially with version 3.0. But the mentioned patch is included in TB > 1.5.0.5

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Marc Wilson wrote: > 1) when will thunderbird finally gain "reply to list"? I could have sworn > I saw a patch go by not too long ago somewhere. Against the next major release. Which was part of the patch notes from the onset. > 3) How do I tell thunderbird to stop with its idiotic represen

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 05:36:48PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Oddly enough I open up Thunderbird which connects to my IMAP store and it > knows how much new mail is in each folder without me going into them. Of course this process works *so* well in thunderbird that not only is there a setting

Re: Backing up whole disk

2006-08-28 Thread T
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:35:17 -0500, Sergio Cuéllar Valdés wrote: > On 8/28/06, T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi >> >> I tried to backup my whole partition with tar: >> >> tar -cvzf /mnt/.../cache11.tgz . >> >> but when testing the archive result with >> >> tar -tzf /mnt/.../cache11.tgz >> >>

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 07:00:26PM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 05:39:56PM -0600, djhack wrote: > > Thunderbird - Copies entire message at reply. Works fine on my box. > > For all you thunderbird users... Forgot one: 5) when will Mozilla-based applications finally start cr

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hello Marc. >> But the mentioned patch is included in TB 1.5.0.5 thanks >> to the TB package maintainers. > > And, of course, there's no documentation provided anywhere of how to use it. I think it is not very difficult to search for „thunderbird reply-to-list“ via $searchengine and find Peter M

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Marc Wilson
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 04:10:34AM +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote: > Hello Marc. > > > 1) when will thunderbird finally gain "reply to list"? I could have sworn > > I saw a patch go by not too long ago somewhere. > > Officially with version 3.0. But the mentioned patch is included in TB > 1.5.0.5

Re: the ds in GLibC?

2006-08-28 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 06:32:44PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > Hi, > Anyone know what the 'ds' in versions of recent GLibC in unstable mean? > Daniel Stone. I believe he incorporates some significant patches and wants to differentiate between his customized version and the upstream versi

Re: IMAP clients and servers with SASL DIGEST-MD5

2006-08-28 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 04:31:46PM +0100, John Kelly wrote: > Hi, > > When searching for IMAP clients and servers with SASL DIGEST-MD5, I'm > overwhelmed by outdated information and dead projects. > > Any (up to date) information welcome. > Why not use PLAIN or LOGIN with SSL or TLS? Regards,

Re: Error 21

2006-08-28 Thread Mihira Fernando
Kelly Clowers wrote: Hmm, this thread is getting off topic. Joe, I am sorry I don't have any insight on the Grub error 21. The info Mihira Fernando asked for earlier might help us help you figure it out. Anyway, good luck from a former northwest Montana resident ;-) I believe the actual proble

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hello Marc. > 1) when will thunderbird finally gain "reply to list"? I could have sworn > I saw a patch go by not too long ago somewhere. Officially with version 3.0. But the mentioned patch is included in TB 1.5.0.5 thanks to the TB package maintainers. Regards, Mathias PS: Yep, I „replied

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Marc Wilson
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 05:39:56PM -0600, djhack wrote: > Thunderbird - Copies entire message at reply. Works fine on my box. For all you thunderbird users... 1) when will thunderbird finally gain "reply to list"? I could have sworn I saw a patch go by not too long ago somewhere. 2) if a messag

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Marc Wilson wrote: > I'm still trying to figure this one out. You think filtering belongs on > the client, yet you read mail from multiple locations and use IMAP. How do > you reconcile the two? Use offlineimap everywhere? No. Just because I think filtering belongs in the client doesn't me

Re: Error 21

2006-08-28 Thread Welly Hartanto
Marc Wilson wrote: On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 04:09:12PM -0500, Damon L. Chesser wrote: I mean, come on, give them a chance to at least learn. I've yet to meet a single one hiding behind the "noob" excuse that had the slightest interest in learning anything at all. Is ther

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 04:54:06PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Filtering belongs in the client if one is receiving mail via POP, which is > a part of the client. I'm still trying to figure this one out. You think filtering belongs on the client, yet you read mail from multiple locations and us

Re: Backing up whole disk

2006-08-28 Thread hendrik
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 04:48:50PM +0200, T wrote: > Hi > > I tried to backup my whole partition with tar: > > tar -cvzf /mnt/.../cache11.tgz . > > but when testing the archive result with > > tar -tzf /mnt/.../cache11.tgz > > It ends with the following error, without explaining what's wro

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Marc Wilson
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 01:58:14AM +0300, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:00:54 -0600 > Rob Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In mutt, 'y' gives me a list of folders and a message count per folder. > > Last time I worked with mutt I didn't see this This is why mutt has documenta

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Marc Shapiro
Steve Lamb wrote: Gnu-Raiz wrote: the big deal. With googles new software such as writely, and their spreadsheet program, you won't need to save anything to your home system harddrive anyway. Other than those pesky privacy issues. Well, Steve, I'm actually with you on this one.

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Gnu-Raiz wrote: > the big deal. With googles new software such as writely, and their > spreadsheet program, you won't need to save anything to your home > system harddrive anyway. Other than those pesky privacy issues. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream?

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Marc Wilson wrote: > On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 07:23:59PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: >> You don't. There's a command that can kinda show you but you have to tap >> it constantly for it to update. There is no auto-updating new mail list. > Mutt can't directly show you new mail in an IMAP store.

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Rob Sims wrote: > In mutt, 'y' gives me a list of folders and a message count per folder. Yes, now update it... without touching the keyboard... Whoops. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | And dream I do...

identd giving failures

2006-08-28 Thread Alan Chandler
I am trying to set up postgres to dump across the network, using ident checking on the username of the caller. But it always failing. When I turn on logging of requests by identd, I find the following in the log Aug 28 23:50:41 kanger identd[18705]: netlink_lookup: write failed: Connection re

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:00:54 -0600 Rob Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 10:13:39PM +0300, Micha Feigin wrote: > > But I have messages separated into about a dozen folders (I know of people > > who use more). I want to know which one has new mail, I want to read the > > mai

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:37:50 -0700 Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:11:05 -0700 > Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > >I've chosen not to use "claws" because of things I didn't like > > >about it, including some things I thought were "bugs". I use the >

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marc Wilson wrote: > On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 07:23:59PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: >> You don't. There's a command that can kinda show you but you have to tap >> it constantly for it to update. There is no auto-updating new mail list. > > Mutt can

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Rob Sims
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 10:13:39PM +0300, Micha Feigin wrote: > But I have messages separated into about a dozen folders (I know of people who > use more). I want to know which one has new mail, I want to read the mail in > the important folders before mailing lists, usually I want to know if I hav

Modify the DebianInstaller to add a new kernel choice

2006-08-28 Thread jef e
I've attempted to add a new kernel to one of the debian installer iso's, following the instructions at this page: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Modify Everything appears to go OK, however, when the installer is running, it does not show me the new kernel as one of the choices for install

Re: Error 21

2006-08-28 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 04:09:12PM -0500, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > I mean, come on, give them a chance to at least learn. I've yet to meet a single one hiding behind the "noob" excuse that had the slightest interest in learning anything at all. Is there some GUI tool of consequence other than SW

Re: Backing up whole disk

2006-08-28 Thread Sergio Cuéllar Valdés
On 8/28/06, T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi I tried to backup my whole partition with tar: tar -cvzf /mnt/.../cache11.tgz . but when testing the archive result with tar -tzf /mnt/.../cache11.tgz It ends with the following error, without explaining what's wrong: gzip: stdin: unexpected en

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Andrei Popescu
Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Raquel wrote: > > >On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:44:12 +0300 > >Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > >>Sylpheed claws has some issues with selecting messages for > >>deletion using the keyboard (for deleting a group of messages), > >>but it ma

Backing up whole disk

2006-08-28 Thread T
Hi I tried to backup my whole partition with tar: tar -cvzf /mnt/.../cache11.tgz . but when testing the archive result with tar -tzf /mnt/.../cache11.tgz It ends with the following error, without explaining what's wrong: gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file tar: Unexpected EOF in archive t

Re: Error 21

2006-08-28 Thread Damon L. Chesser
Marc Wilson wrote: On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 11:27:08AM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: As someone who was once a total noob with linux, I assure you a file server does need a windowing system. To serve what possible need? How does serving files require X? How does having X *enhance* the e

Re: 2.6.17.6 i810 + drm:810_wait_ring - kernel crash, help?

2006-08-28 Thread Justin Piszcz
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006, Andreas Mohr wrote: Hi, On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 03:20:32PM -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: Alan, you seemed to have worked with this issue before? http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0303.0/0644.html Any idea to its root cause? This is an old issue that has bee

Re: Error 21

2006-08-28 Thread Kelly Clowers
On 8/28/06, Derek Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 10:48:59AM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 11:27:08AM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: > > As someone who was once a total noob with linux, I assure you a > > file server does need a windowing system. > > T

Re: Starting Openvz

2006-08-28 Thread John Kelly
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:47:52 +0300, David Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >I have no such modules: vzdev, vzmon, vzdquota. >> >> OpenVZ won't work without them. Sounds like you don't have an OpenVZ >> kernel installed (or booted). > >make-kpkg listed a lot of patch.o's being compiled and clai

Re: 2.6.17.6 i810 + drm:810_wait_ring - kernel crash, help?

2006-08-28 Thread Andreas Mohr
Hi, On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 03:20:32PM -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: > Alan, you seemed to have worked with this issue before? > > http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0303.0/0644.html > > Any idea to its root cause? This is an old issue that has been discussed too many times on the inte

Re: icewm hanging with no error

2006-08-28 Thread Carl Fink
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 11:53:41PM +0530, ferrangu z wrote: > I am running a debian sarge and icewm as wm. The default version of icewm > that came with it was 1.2.24(i suppose ) .. when using icewmfor around > 2-3 hrs the system suddenly gets hung ... even upgrading icewm to > 1.2.27doesnt s

Re: KDE being removed?

2006-08-28 Thread Joe
edwardsa wrote: Katipo wrote: edwardsa wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: edwardsa wrote: I was doing an dist-upgrade and kde was being removed. Should I be concerned? Using aptitude? Using apt-get If you use KDE, it's a definite concern. If you don't,

Re: KDE being removed?

2006-08-28 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 09:58:49 -0600, edwardsa wrote: > I was doing an dist-upgrade and kde was being removed. Should I be > concerned? The "kde" package is just a meta-package: It does not really contain anything, but its dependencies make sure that a complete KDE system is pulled in if you ru

Re: Starting Openvz

2006-08-28 Thread David Baron
On Monday 28 August 2006 16:32, John Kelly wrote: > On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:59:28 +0300, David Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >( do not know what you mean by set -x here. ) > > "set -x" in a bash script, can help you debug the script. > > man bash > > >I have no such modules: vzdev, vzmon, v

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Raquel
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:11:05 -0700 Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >I've chosen not to use "claws" because of things I didn't like > >about it, including some things I thought were "bugs". I use the > >plain vanilla Sylpheed. > > > > > Does Sylpheed handle mbox style mailboxes, ye

Re: fstab entries for two different pendrives?

2006-08-28 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 10:46:01 -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 02:28:56PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > Devices will be mounted at the correct mount point > > automatically. > > Don't they get mounted at some random point in /media? OK, my statement is somewhat misleading

Re: 2.6.17.6 i810 + drm:810_wait_ring - kernel crash, help?

2006-08-28 Thread Justin Piszcz
Alan, you seemed to have worked with this issue before? http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0303.0/0644.html Any idea to its root cause? On Mon, 28 Aug 2006, Justin Piszcz wrote: Aug 28 14:26:48 localhost kernel: [4307635.448000] [drm:i810_wait_ring] *ERROR* space: 64792 wanted 655

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:58:31 -0700 Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:44:12 +0300 > Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sylpheed claws has some issues with selecting messages for > > deletion using the keyboard (for deleting a group of messages), > > but it may b

2.6.17.6 i810 + drm:810_wait_ring - kernel crash, help?

2006-08-28 Thread Justin Piszcz
Aug 28 14:26:48 localhost kernel: [4307635.448000] [drm:i810_wait_ring] *ERROR* space: 64792 wanted 65528 Aug 28 14:26:48 localhost kernel: [4307635.448000] [drm:i810_wait_ring] *ERROR* lockup Aug 28 14:26:50 localhost kdm[1754]: X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly Any idea why thi

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:20:03 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 28.08.06 12:23, Micha Feigin wrote: > > It lacks a folders column and hebrew support ... > > And which one of the features I asked below does this belong under? > Could you next time quote exactly the part o

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Marc Shapiro
Raquel wrote: On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:44:12 +0300 Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sylpheed claws has some issues with selecting messages for deletion using the keyboard (for deleting a group of messages), but it may be a problem with my setup (it doesn't seem like whoever looked at t

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Raquel
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:44:12 +0300 Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sylpheed claws has some issues with selecting messages for > deletion using the keyboard (for deleting a group of messages), > but it may be a problem with my setup (it doesn't seem like > whoever looked at the bug didn't

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Gnu-Raiz
Ron Johnson down in the bayou wrote: >Showing my grey beard: WordStar was excellently-designed TUI >software. All was based on the keyborad "home row", most commands >were 2 strokes: "group"+"command". Help screens were layered and >rational. You could have help *always* on half the screen, >*t

SOLVED: Autofs behaviour: how to show mountable resources in advance

2006-08-28 Thread Joao Carlos de Lima Roscoe
Dieter Roels wrote: Joao Carlos de Lima Roscoe wrote: I have a bunch of autofs mounts in my etch box, whose doesn't show in my filesystem tree until I explicitly use them, with a cd command, for instance (ok, this is the intend autofs behaviour); My Solaris 9 boxes show a different behaviou

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 00:15:25 +0200 Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am 2006-08-25 03:40:08, schrieb s. keeling: > > > I'm a mutt user myself, but balsa's not bad if you insist on a GUI > > MUA. I'm not very knowledgable about what it really can do (verify > > gpg, thread, etc), but

Re[2]: IMAP clients and servers with SASL DIGEST-MD5

2006-08-28 Thread John Kelly
Hello Clive, Monday, August 28, 2006, 7:16:14 PM, you wrote: > On (28/08/06 17:24), John Kelly wrote: >> I know about Dovecot, but it's still a moving target, too new for me. > I've been running dovecot on a couple of sarge servers for nearly two years > and it's been rock solid. You must be ru

icewm hanging with no error

2006-08-28 Thread ferrangu z
  I am running a debian sarge and icewm as wm. The default version of icewm that came with it was 1.2.24(i suppose ) .. when using icewm    for around 2-3 hrs the system suddenly gets hung ...  even upgrading icewm to 1.2.27 doesnt seem to solve the problem.   The hanging prob is with icewm only

Re: IMAP clients and servers with SASL DIGEST-MD5

2006-08-28 Thread Clive Menzies
On (28/08/06 17:24), John Kelly wrote: > I know about Dovecot, but it's still a moving target, too new for me. I've been running dovecot on a couple of sarge servers for nearly two years and it's been rock solid. Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business -- To

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 07:23:59PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > You don't. There's a command that can kinda show you but you have to tap > it constantly for it to update. There is no auto-updating new mail list. Mutt can't directly show you new mail in an IMAP store. True enough. It has no t

Re: Windows start partially off-screen?

2006-08-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 08:38:51AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 11:30:59PM -0500, Mumia W. wrote: > > On 08/25/2006 09:35 PM, Carl Fink wrote: > > >Just a quick check: do other Debian users see GTK applications starting > > >with the bottom half or more off the bottom of the s

Re: Error 21

2006-08-28 Thread Derek Martin
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 10:48:59AM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 11:27:08AM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: > > As someone who was once a total noob with linux, I assure you a > > file server does need a windowing system. > > To serve what possible need? How does serving files r

Re: Error 21

2006-08-28 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 11:27:08AM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: > As someone who was once a total noob with linux, > I assure you a file server does need a windowing > system. To serve what possible need? How does serving files require X? How does having X *enhance* the ease of serving files? --

Re: fstab entries for two different pendrives?

2006-08-28 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 02:28:56PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > Devices will be mounted at the correct mount point > automatically. Don't they get mounted at some random point in /media? (/me stabs repeatedly whatever fool decided the world needed two places to mount things...) > Even better,

Re: Error 21

2006-08-28 Thread Derek Martin
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 11:27:08AM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: > On 8/27/06, Ottavio Caruso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >What has KDE got to do with a fileserver? A server > >shouldn't have any windowing system at all... > > As someone who was once a total noob with linux, I assure you a file

Re: IMAP clients and servers with SASL DIGEST-MD5

2006-08-28 Thread John Kelly
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:06:41 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Mon, 28 Aug 2006, John Kelly wrote: >> When searching for IMAP clients and servers with SASL DIGEST-MD5, I'm >> overwhelmed by outdated information and dead projects. > >For servers: anything using Cyrus

Re: IMAP clients and servers with SASL DIGEST-MD5

2006-08-28 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006, John Kelly wrote: > When searching for IMAP clients and servers with SASL DIGEST-MD5, I'm > overwhelmed by outdated information and dead projects. For servers: anything using Cyrus SASL will support DIGEST-MD5, and that includes Cyrus IMAPd (all versions). For clients: good l

Odp: Re: Delete part of metapackage?

2006-08-28 Thread Zbigniew Wiech
Hello, try this way 1. From the console enter TUI of "aptitude" ("su -c aptitude") 2. filter (by "L")  anything from KDE and gnome metapackages, press "-" to delete it, then "g" to summarize 3. You'll be shown extra long list of red highlited broken dependencies 4. Re-select packages you really

Re: KDE being removed?

2006-08-28 Thread Kent West
edwardsa wrote: Katipo wrote: edwardsa wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: edwardsa wrote: I was doing an dist-upgrade and kde was being removed. Should I be concerned? Using aptitude? Using apt-get If you use KDE, it's a definite concern. If you don't,

Cyrillic input in Xorg?

2006-08-28 Thread H. S. Teoh
Hi all, I've a (probably dumb) question: how do I configure XKB so that I can switch between Latin and Cyrillic keyboard layouts? I tried: setxkbmap us,ru -option grp:lwin_toggle and I'm able to get it to switch between the US keyboard and the Russian keyboard, but when I'm in Russian mo

Re: KDE being removed?

2006-08-28 Thread edwardsa
Katipo wrote: edwardsa wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: edwardsa wrote: I was doing an dist-upgrade and kde was being removed. Should I be concerned? Using aptitude? Using apt-get If you use KDE, it's a definite concern. If you don't, you're bett

Re: KDE being removed?

2006-08-28 Thread Katipo
edwardsa wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> >> >> edwardsa wrote: >> >> >>> I was doing an dist-upgrade and kde was being removed. Should I be >>> concerned? >>> >> >> >> Using aptitude? >> >> >> > > Using apt-get > If you use KDE, it's a definite concern. If you don't, you're better off f

the ds in GLibC?

2006-08-28 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi, Anyone know what the 'ds' in versions of recent GLibC in unstable mean? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

IMAP clients and servers with SASL DIGEST-MD5

2006-08-28 Thread John Kelly
Hi, When searching for IMAP clients and servers with SASL DIGEST-MD5, I'm overwhelmed by outdated information and dead projects. Any (up to date) information welcome.

Re: wu-ftpd, telnetd, and neighbor table overflow blues

2006-08-28 Thread Heather Yost
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Re: KDE being removed?

2006-08-28 Thread edwardsa
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 edwardsa wrote: I was doing an dist-upgrade and kde was being removed. Should I be concerned? Using aptitude? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Is "common sense" really valid? For example, it is "common sense" to

Re: KDE being removed?

2006-08-28 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 edwardsa wrote: > I was doing an dist-upgrade and kde was being removed. Should I be > concerned? Using aptitude? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Is "common sense" really valid? For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that w

Re: Stand by command

2006-08-28 Thread Andrei Popescu
"Rocky Ou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you use apm try "man apm". For acpi the program acpitool will do > > what you want. > Well, Thank you for your reply! It really works by input acpitool -s but > the problems is I could not get the command which will wake my laptop up. I > went over ma

KDE being removed?

2006-08-28 Thread edwardsa
I was doing an dist-upgrade and kde was being removed. Should I be concerned? -- Arthur H. Edwards Senior Research Physicist Air Force Research Laboratory AFRL/VSSE Bldg. 914 3550 Aberdeen Ave. SE KAFB, NM 87117-5776 (505) 853-6042 (O) (505) 463-6722 (C) (505) 846-2290 (F) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Autofs behaviour: how to show mountable resources in advance

2006-08-28 Thread Dieter Roels
Joao Carlos de Lima Roscoe wrote: I have a bunch of autofs mounts in my etch box, whose doesn't show in my filesystem tree until I explicitly use them, with a cd command, for instance (ok, this is the intend autofs behaviour); My Solaris 9 boxes show a different behaviour: autofs resources do

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-28 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 28.08.06 12:23, Micha Feigin wrote: > It lacks a folders column and hebrew support ... And which one of the features I asked below does this belong under? Could you next time quote exactly the part of my mail so I know? Sorry, I know mutt does not have "folders column" but I have neved needed

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