Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-04-02 Thread Siju George
On 2/20/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So this is where my suggestion for a filesystem comes into play. I used XFS in the beginning of my experiments with LVM but am migrating to ext3 now, since XFS can only be grown but not shrunk. But growing *and* shrinking are both natively

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-04-02 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On 4/2/07, Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/20/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So this is where my suggestion for a filesystem comes into play. I used XFS in the beginning of my experiments with LVM but am migrating to ext3 now, since XFS can only be grown but not

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-04-02 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Joe Hart wrote: Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Roberto C. S�nchez wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:43:30PM -0400, Jim Hyslop wrote: If I had immediately followed with some outrageous claim that Windows is better and has

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-04-02 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:14:57PM +, Joe Hart wrote: I agree with you. I guess we don't need to debate the issue since your statements were not based on sound logic, rather they were just echoing the stupidity of the masses. Hi! You must be new here :-) That has never before stopped

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-04-02 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 04:35:03PM +0530, Siju George wrote: But it seems ext3 has to be unmounted to increase and decrease in size right? That would mean downtime for server. There is currently an experimental online resizing patch for ext3. I am not sure if it is already in the kernel,

Re: simple image upload server to coexist with wiki?

2007-04-02 Thread mmiller3
Jochen == Jochen Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: NB: why don't you let users attach the images to wiki pages? I know that MoinMoin allows that. It does - and I hadn't looked at it carefully enough. Attachments and ImageLink do exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks! Mike -- To

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-04-02 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto � wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:14:57PM +, Joe Hart wrote: I agree with you. I guess we don't need to debate the issue since your statements were not based on sound logic, rather they were just echoing the stupidity of the masses.

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-04-02 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:56:26PM +, Joe Hart wrote: LOL. Roberto, I apologize for my lousy MUA (IceDove) butchering your name. No worries. I only recently decided to increase my level of nonconformance by including and accented character in my last name. This has to do with my

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-02 Thread judd
On 30 Mar, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:02:49AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Interesting. sarcasmIs this where he advocates torture?/sarcasm: Of course, our values as a nation, values that we share with many nations in the world, call for us to treat

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/07 01:10, Wei Chen wrote: Hi, I am a desktop user that is currently using Etch. You know that Etch is about to release. This means that new features and software will not get into it any more. So what is a better choice now, to

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-02 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 08:51:09AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, actually the executive order was written to obfuscate the issue. It was pretty widely reported in the press that this order, and the memos that it references were specifically written to provide immunity to

Re: tape drive writing and kernel errors

2007-04-02 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/07 04:43, Sebastiaan Veldhuisen wrote: Hi, I'm running debian Etch on a no name server with a Quantum DLT-v4 SATA drive. All my backups on tape are failing with kernel errors (see below). The tape is fresh, so it isn't a bad medium I

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-02 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/07 03:19, Dave Ewart wrote: On Sunday, 01.04.2007 at 16:12 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: Most people I know pronounce this post-gress (dropping/ignoring the 'SQL' part at the end). And that's wrong. Steady, Ron: don't accuse people of

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-02 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/07 08:12, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 08:51:09AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, actually the executive order was written to obfuscate the issue. It was pretty widely reported in the press that this order,

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-02 Thread CaT
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 08:34:53AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/07 03:19, Dave Ewart wrote: On Sunday, 01.04.2007 at 16:12 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: Most people I know pronounce this post-gress (dropping/ignoring the 'SQL' part at

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 02:10:08PM +0800, Wei Chen wrote: Hi, I am a desktop user that is currently using Etch. You know that Etch is about to release. This means that new features and software will not get into it any more. So what is a

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 4/2/07, Wei Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I am a desktop user that is currently using Etch. Hi Wei, Are you using GNOME, KDE or Xfce ? You know that Etch is about to release. This means that new features and software will not get into

Re: Strange X phenomen since upgrade to X-org

2007-04-02 Thread Andrei Popescu
Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was going to snip this xorg.conf, but I decided to leave it. But I did it :D 1) why are you running x on a server in the first place? 2) Your problems lie in your video drivers. Doing a search I found this: Workaround 1: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf set

Re: how to print unicode encoded file to ps

2007-04-02 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Jeff Zhang wrote: If you just want to convert txt into ps then pdf, u2ps from gnome-u2ps will produce better pdf quality with correct embeded font. I am sorry, I do not agree. Compared to paps, u2ps is a very poor program indeed. - u2ps, unasked, adds a frame around the text and a header. I

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-02 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/02/07 03:19, Dave Ewart wrote: On Sunday, 01.04.2007 at 16:12 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: Most people I know pronounce this post-gress (dropping/ignoring the 'SQL' part at the end). And that's wrong. Steady, Ron: don't

Re: Is it possible to get the database of packages.debian.org?

2007-04-02 Thread jfr . fg
It gives you a good start to understand why the command line is so powerful. Remember, this little script is just a very small example which can be expanded upon to nearly zero limits. I myself wondering, but you convinced me. It is good to know,that there is a possibilty to write something

Permissions Question

2007-04-02 Thread Thomas H. George
After netinst of etch attempts to start iceape and openoffice as a regular user fail. I was able to alter permissions to allow a regular user to open a console window. If, in the console window I become root, then as root I can successfully start and user both iceape and openoffice. I need

Re: Permissions Question

2007-04-02 Thread Jeff D
On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Thomas H. George wrote: After netinst of etch attempts to start iceape and openoffice as a regular user fail. I was able to alter permissions to allow a regular user to open a console window. If, in the console window I become root, then as root I can successfully start

Re: Help with raid and windows

2007-04-02 Thread michael
On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 02:46:23 -0700, Michael Armida wrote I'm trying to set up a dual-boot machine with four identical SATA drives. sda and sdb are controlled by the motherboard's nvidia raid controller; Windows Vista runs on these and I try to stay out of it's way. Heeding the docs, I

Re: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-04-02 Thread michael
On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 15:46 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/01/07 14:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seth, I think you really understood my intentions. And still agree with all of your 6 points. As a personal view, I have the skills to set

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-02 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/07 08:45, CaT wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 08:34:53AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/07 03:19, Dave Ewart wrote: On Sunday, 01.04.2007 at 16:12 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: Most people

Re: Permissions Question

2007-04-02 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 09:49:41AM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: After netinst of etch attempts to start iceape and openoffice as a regular user fail. I was able to alter permissions to allow a regular user to open a console window. If, in the

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-02 Thread Jim Hyslop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Pobega wrote: Now I'm afraid. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_signing_party Why are you afraid? - -- Jim Hyslop Dreampossible: Better software. Simply. http://www.dreampossible.ca Consulting * Mentoring * Training

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Wei Chen wrote: I am a desktop user that is currently using Etch. You know that Etch is about to release. This means that new features and software will not get into it any more. So what is a better choice now, to stick to Etch or to switch to the next testing? I am not sure which is

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words - gradually going OT :)

2007-04-02 Thread Max Hyre
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: My first words were Cum-By-Ya Well, you just got blocked by millions of spam filters right there. :-) I've always sung ``coom-by-ya''. And then again---my spell checker objected to `coom'; its first option was `cum'. Go figure. (Or, as my daughter says, go

Re: Permissions Question

2007-04-02 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 11:34:03 -0400 Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 09:49:41AM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: After netinst of etch attempts to start iceape and openoffice as a regular user fail. I was able to

Re: how to print unicode encoded file to ps

2007-04-02 Thread Jeff Zhang
On 4/2/07, Jan Willem Stumpel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Zhang wrote: If you just want to convert txt into ps then pdf, u2ps from gnome-u2ps will produce better pdf quality with correct embeded font. I am sorry, I do not agree. Compared to paps, u2ps is a very poor program indeed. -

migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

2007-04-02 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Couple of months back, the hard drive on one of my machines has gone bad. That machine used to run thunderbird (dont remember which version) and all my email was stored in /home/username/.mozilla-thunderbird . I copied the old /home partition (from backups) onto a new machine's /home/username.

Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

2007-04-02 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Couple of months back, the hard drive on one of my machines has gone bad. That machine used to run thunderbird (dont remember which version) and all my email was stored in /home/username/.mozilla-thunderbird . I copied

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-02 Thread Nyizsnyik Ferenc
On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 15:06:42 -0700 Dusty Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/1/07, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tend to say cheroot, with the hard ch sound (like in cherry, for example). I say shroot Okay, what about chown and chmod? I don't imagine a person says shown and

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-02 Thread Max Hyre
cga2000 wrote: About 20 miles East of the city. Well, more like zero (Queens and Brooklyn are part of both the city and the Island, unless you're talking like the locals, to whom The City is Manhattan, and the rest is referred to by borough name) to 120 miles east. There's a reason they call

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-02 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 11:33:08AM -0400, Jim Hyslop wrote: Michael Pobega wrote: Now I'm afraid. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_signing_party Why are you afraid? That picture just frightened me[0], but I was only kidding. It was the

Re: Permissions Question

2007-04-02 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 11:43:48AM -0400, Celejar wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 11:34:03 -0400 Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 09:49:41AM -0400, Thomas H. George

Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

2007-04-02 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Joe Hart wrote: This is fixable. First, find the path that icedove is using for it's mail. On my system it is .mozilla-thunderbird, but it might not be on yours. On my system also, all the email is stored in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ 93 4972 12:06 PM $ls -al

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-02 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 07:00:06AM -0400, Max Hyre wrote: cga2000 wrote: About 20 miles East of the city. Well, more like zero (Queens and Brooklyn are part of both the city and the Island, unless you're talking like the locals, to whom The

Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

2007-04-02 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On 4/2/07, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Hart wrote: This is fixable. First, find the path that icedove is using for it's mail. On my system it is .mozilla-thunderbird, but it might not be on yours. On my system also, all the email is stored in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-02 Thread Paul E Condon
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 08:38:34AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/07 08:12, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 08:51:09AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, actually the executive order was written to obfuscate the

Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

2007-04-02 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:10:10PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Joe Hart wrote: This is fixable. First, find the path that icedove is using for it's mail. On my system it is .mozilla-thunderbird, but it might not be on yours.

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 08:12 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/02/07 01:10, Wei Chen wrote: Hi, I am a desktop user that is currently using Etch. You know that Etch is about to release. This means that new features and software will not get into it any more. So what is a better

Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

2007-04-02 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Kushal Kumaran wrote: You haven't mentioned what error message, if any, you are getting. I was not receiving any error messages. Previously when I start thunderbird, it directly goes to my accounts page and displays all the folders, news groups etc., Now, when I run icedove, it is starting the

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-04-02 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 09:02 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:56:26PM +, Joe Hart wrote: LOL. Roberto, I apologize for my lousy MUA (IceDove) butchering your name. No worries. I only recently decided to increase my level of nonconformance by including

Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

2007-04-02 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Kushal Kumaran wrote: You haven't mentioned what error message, if any, you are getting. http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/profile has info on backing up and restoring thunderbird profiles. Maybe something there might help. The page says that, In Linux the path is ~/.thunderbird.

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-04-02 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:36:43PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 09:02 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:56:26PM +, Joe Hart wrote: LOL. Roberto, I apologize for my lousy MUA (IceDove)

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-02 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Pobega wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 07:00:06AM -0400, Max Hyre wrote: cga2000 wrote: About 20 miles East of the city. Well, more like zero (Queens and Brooklyn are part of both the city and the Island, unless you're talking like the

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-02 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 09:12:44 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 08:51:09AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, actually the executive order was written to obfuscate the issue. It was pretty widely reported in the press that this order, and the

Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

2007-04-02 Thread KS
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Kushal Kumaran wrote: You haven't mentioned what error message, if any, you are getting. http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/profile has info on backing up and restoring thunderbird profiles. Maybe something there might help. The page says that, In

Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

2007-04-02 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Joe Hart wrote: This is fixable. First, find the path that icedove is using for it's mail. On my system it is .mozilla-thunderbird, but it might not be on yours. On my system also, all the email is stored in

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-04-02 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Folkert wrote: On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 09:02 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:56:26PM +, Joe Hart wrote: LOL. Roberto, I apologize for my lousy MUA (IceDove) butchering your name. No worries. I only recently

Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

2007-04-02 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 KS wrote: Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Kushal Kumaran wrote: You haven't mentioned what error message, if any, you are getting. http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/profile has info on backing up and restoring thunderbird profiles. Maybe

Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

2007-04-02 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Pobega wrote: [snip] $cat .mozilla-thunderbird/profiles.ini [General] StartWithLastProfile=1 [Profile0] Name=default IsRelative=1 Path=bafaowsk.default Default=1 Looks correct to me except the Default=1 line. What does it do?

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Wei Chen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jochen Schulz wrote: Wei Chen: But I once heard that things in the Testing distribution always change gradually. And the big gap between stable and testing will cause the upgrade not so easy after some time of the release of stable. Is that true?

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-04-02 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 12:43 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:36:43PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 09:02 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:56:26PM +, Joe Hart wrote: LOL. Roberto, I apologize for my

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Wei Chen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jochen Schulz wrote: Wei Chen: Also, maybe one disadvantage of upgrading to a newer version early is that one can in fact upgrade at any time if still using the old one. But once upgraded, it is never possible to get the old one back again...

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Wei Chen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: Depending on your tolerance for a little breakage and the occasional temporarily uninstallable package, you might want to think about jumping up to Sid/unstable. Lots of us run Sid, so you won't be alone. Obviously, though,

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/07 12:13, Wei Chen wrote: Jochen Schulz wrote: Wei Chen: Also, maybe one disadvantage of upgrading to a newer version early is that one can in fact upgrade at any time if still using the old one. But once upgraded, it is never possible

Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

2007-04-02 Thread KS
Joe Hart wrote: KS wrote: Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Kushal Kumaran wrote: You haven't mentioned what error message, if any, you are getting. http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/profile has info on backing up and restoring thunderbird profiles. Maybe something there might help.

Re: how to print unicode encoded file to ps

2007-04-02 Thread JWS
Jeff Zhang wrote: [Try it] with simple unicode encoding file (test.txt), like: chinese 中文 then produce with: u2ps -X utf8 --gpfamily=Sans 12 test.txt -o u2ps.ps paps --font Sans 12 test.txt paps.ps It must have something to do with installed fonts. I repeated your experiments exactly,

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-02 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 06:56 +, Joe Hart wrote: s. keeling wrote: Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [snip] be, I've decided to unsubscribe. Well, goodbye (if you ever see this John) There's always the archives at lists.debian.org if he's curious. I suspect he'll be happier at

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-04-02 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 17:04 +, Joe Hart wrote: Greg Folkert wrote: On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 09:02 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:56:26PM +, Joe Hart wrote: LOL. Roberto, I apologize for my lousy MUA (IceDove) butchering your name. No worries. I

Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

2007-04-02 Thread Mitja Podreka
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: 2) Is there any way to tell icedove to migrate all the old emails to its newer (if any) default location? I've just migrated from Sarge/Thunderbird to Etch/Icedove. Before I started Icedove for the first time I simply copied the ./mozilla-thunderbird folder from

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Wei Chen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Pobega wrote: I'm a desktop user myself, and my plan is to stick with Etch for about a month or two until Lenny is at least mildly settled; Upgrading right away will cause problems usually, so I like to wait it out. Lenny gets a lot

Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

2007-04-02 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Joe Hart wrote: After this long and irrelevant story, do you have your mail back or do we need to troubleshoot it further? Joe Interesting experience. Thanks for sharing it. However, I still have the same problem : When I start icedove, it brings up the account wizard instead of seeing

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Wei Chen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gustavo Franco wrote: Hi Wei, Are you using GNOME, KDE or Xfce ? Hi, my main account runs KDE because it seems that the interface is better. Sometimes I run in another account in GNOME, for example when I think a program should be run in a

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread John Hasler
Wei Chen writes: Thanks. But I would rather have a system that just works. The reason why I am worrying about Stable is partially because I guess I may want to use some new features that are not available in Stable and installing them from source code may cause bigger trouble...

Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

2007-04-02 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
KS wrote: Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Kushal Kumaran wrote: You haven't mentioned what error message, if any, you are getting. http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/profile has info on backing up and restoring thunderbird profiles. Maybe something there might help. The page says

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-02 Thread Dave Ewart
On Monday, 02.04.2007 at 10:27 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: The original poster wanted to know the way most people said common Unix/Linux words. PostgreSQL *is* pronounced post-gress-ceu-ell as you keep insisting (and with which I am *NOT* disagreeing): however, my point was that many,

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Wei Chen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/debian_choosing_distribution.html aims to answer these kind of questions. Just had a look at the article. I mainly learned from it that for security, servers and newbies, a

OT Mac OS X and Etch NFS question

2007-04-02 Thread Paul E Condon
I want to set up Mac running OS X v 10.4 as a NFS server so that I can have one of my Debian boxes read files from it on an NFS mount. Can anyone, please point me to some instructions on setting up OS X as an NFS server? TIA -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-04-02 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:12:34 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 01:49:13PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/30/07 11:10, dave wrote: on Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 08:50:55AM -0500 Ron Johnson wrote: So you shoot the possibly-wounded Iraqi? If

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Wei Chen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: It's not officially supported in Stable because the policy is that Stable only gets security updates, not feature updates. Oh, didn't know that. Another important question: are you a user who just wants to get his work done,

Evo vs. Icedove (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-04-02 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/07 12:12, Greg Folkert wrote: On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 12:43 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:36:43PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 09:02 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at

Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

2007-04-02 Thread Bruffey, Mark
I need instructions to get an Intel Pro Wireless set up in Etch on a Dell D810. System sees wired ethernet connection just fine. I have located and tried to follow a couple of installation routines for the wireless without success. Is it possible to point me to a step-by-step, comprehensive,

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/07 13:10, Wei Chen wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: It's not officially supported in Stable because the policy is that Stable only gets security updates, not feature updates. Oh, didn't know that. Yup.

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Wei Chen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Hasler wrote: Wei Chen writes: Thanks. But I would rather have a system that just works. The reason why I am worrying about Stable is partially because I guess I may want to use some new features that are not available in Stable and

Re: Evo vs. Icedove (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-04-02 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 13:15 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: How much memory does Evo use? I switched from Evo to ID because of bloat and Evo's ties to GNOME, but ID has RES 81m and SHR 23m. So I'm thinking of reinstalling Evo. Using XFce as my environment, while replying to your message:

Re: OT Mac OS X and Etch NFS question

2007-04-02 Thread michael
On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 12:07:10 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote I want to set up Mac running OS X v 10.4 as a NFS server so that I can have one of my Debian boxes read files from it on an NFS mount. Can anyone, please point me to some instructions on setting up OS X as an NFS server? Try here:

Re: Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

2007-04-02 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 13:22 -0500, Bruffey, Mark wrote: I need instructions to get an Intel Pro Wireless set up in Etch on a Dell D810. System sees wired ethernet connection just fine. I have located and tried to follow a couple of installation routines for the wireless without success. Is it

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Wei Chen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/02/07 13:10, Wei Chen wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: It's not officially supported in Stable because the policy is that Stable only gets security updates, not feature updates. Oh, didn't know that. Yup.

Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

2007-04-02 Thread Bruffey, Mark
--Repost due to user error in first post--sorry all.-- I need instructions to get an Intel Pro Wireless set up in Etch on a Dell D810. System sees wired ethernet connection just fine. I have located and tried to follow a couple of installation routines for the wireless without success. Is it

Re: OT Mac OS X and Etch NFS question

2007-04-02 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 12:07 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: I want to set up Mac running OS X v 10.4 as a NFS server so that I can have one of my Debian boxes read files from it on an NFS mount. Can anyone, please point me to some instructions on setting up OS X as an NFS server? Paul, there are

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Raquel
On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 02:51:17 +0800 Wei Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I'd say that maybe Stable is really not for Desktop use. Testing is the best choice because it is neither too dangerous nor too old. After listening to the suggestions on the list, I have made my decision that I shall

Re: Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

2007-04-02 Thread Andrew Barr
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 14:02 -0500, Bruffey, Mark wrote: --Repost due to user error in first post--sorry all.-- I need instructions to get an Intel Pro Wireless set up in Etch on a Dell D810. System sees wired ethernet connection just fine. I have located and tried to follow a couple of

Re: Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

2007-04-02 Thread Andrew Barr
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 15:35 -0400, Andrew Barr wrote: On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 14:02 -0500, Bruffey, Mark wrote: --Repost due to user error in first post--sorry all.-- I need instructions to get an Intel Pro Wireless set up in Etch on a Dell D810. System sees wired ethernet connection

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-02 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Folkert wrote: [snip] I usually just google things and end up finding the debian list :) Amazing that much of the advice here is: GIYF (STFW) or RTFM And, it also brings you back. I guess, maybe I should just keep things strictly

Re: Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

2007-04-02 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 14:02 -0500, Bruffey, Mark wrote: I need instructions to get an Intel Pro Wireless set up in Etch on a Dell D810. System sees wired ethernet connection just fine. I have located and tried to follow a couple of installation routines for the wireless without success. Is it

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-02 Thread Dusty Wilson
I'm re-gathering what everyone has said so far. Here's my list so far. But there are still a couple missing (chmod/chown) and others I'm not 100% sure of (lilo, passwd, chroot). named = name-dee pxe = pixie Debian = deb-ee-un bind = bynd (like find or whined, not like bindy or windy) lilo =

Re: Help! Mtrr don't work...

2007-04-02 Thread Marco
[...] #cat /proc/mtrr reg00: base=0x ( 0MB), size=2048MB: write-back, count=1 *reg01: base=0x7ff0 (2047MB), size= 1MB: uncachable, count=1 * Is the reg01 correct or not? **#lspci -v 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce Go 7400 (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA])

Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

2007-04-02 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Joe Hart wrote: After this long and irrelevant story, do you have your mail back or do we need to troubleshoot it further? Joe Interesting experience. Thanks for sharing it. However, I still have the same

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-02 Thread Max Hyre
For those interested, a summary... How I counted: single opinion rendered +1 multiple pronunciations offered or commended by single poster+1 for each Notes: Intent of this count is to be descriptive (as she is spoken) rather than prescriptive (I

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-02 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dusty Wilson wrote: I'm re-gathering what everyone has said so far. Here's my list so far. But there are still a couple missing (chmod/chown) and others I'm not 100% sure of (lilo, passwd, chroot). I'll give it a shot. You haven't heard from

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-02 Thread judd
On 2 Apr, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 08:51:09AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, actually the executive order was written to obfuscate the issue. It was pretty widely reported in the press that this order, and the memos that it references were specifically

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-02 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:58:10PM -0700, Dusty Wilson wrote: I'm re-gathering what everyone has said so far. Here's my list so far. But there are still a couple missing (chmod/chown) and others I'm not 100% sure of (lilo, passwd, chroot). chroot = tchroot (Ch as in Chekhov + root - there's

Re: dreamweaver-esque webpage design program?

2007-04-02 Thread i'll teach you to turn away.
Alexander J?ger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'll teach you to turn away. escribi?: hi. what's your favorite don't-have-to-think-about-it webpage design program for debian? i'm thinking dreamweaver-esque. AJg Jose Luis Rivas Contreras schrieb: NVU and Quanta AJg Zend Studio works great

Re: Tool to monitor system downtimes?

2007-04-02 Thread anoop aryal
On Thursday 29 March 2007 07:50, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/29/07 02:52, Joerg Lange wrote: On 3/28/07, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Parse this single line file: /proc/loadavg. Thats what I already do in the perl program I wrote, in order to get the latest load (first number is

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-02 Thread Max Hyre
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: chroot = tchroot (Ch as in Chekhov + root - there's an unavoidable very short middle e or a sound as you say it because you can't easily go from one syllable to the other) It's called schwa, and represented by a lowercase `e' rotated 180 degrees about the axis

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