David Brodbeck wrote:
On Jul 24, 2007, at 8:34 AM, Kent West wrote:
It'd be nice if a coder of Con's caliber were to get interested in
the HURD. I think that project has a lot of potential, but I'm
afeared it has little future without some motivated developers.
HURD kind of suffers from
Hi all,
I've got a server with only USB connections, so I had to plug a USB
keyboard. This keyboard is an spanish one, so in the installer settings
I selected spanish layout. After the installation has finished I have
some problems with it, the keymap selecte is an spanish cause letters as
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 01:46:29PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
David Brodbeck wrote:
[...]
To me it always smacked a little of me-too-ism, too ... the GNU folks
felt Linux wasn't GNU-ish enough, so they had to go write their own
kernel.
It's my understanding that the Hurd pre-dates Linux;
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Hi,
I don't really think this is OT, albeit not directly Debian related.
Con Kolivas, the kernel hacker who authored a better scheduler,
recently decided to quit.
Loss for Linux (and Linus)
Here's his reasoning.
On 07/24/2007 08:40 AM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 11:51:28PM -0700, Glen Pfeiffer wrote:
Should I purge OOo first? This is my first attempt to install
from backports, so I am not sure about this. I have searched,
but did not find anything helpful.
If you want to
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 12:25:21PM -0700, Glen Pfeiffer wrote:
On 07/24/2007 08:40 AM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 11:51:28PM -0700, Glen Pfeiffer wrote:
Should I purge OOo first? This is my first attempt to install
from backports, so I am not sure about this. I
David Brodbeck wrote:
On Jul 24, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Mike McCarty wrote:
I wonder what those who support the GPL so strongly on Linux support
mail lists will do in response to that argument? I personally don't
like or use the GPL, so I really don't care. But ISTM that those
who have argued so
On Jul 24, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Mike McCarty wrote:
I have tried running some long-term computations in the background
using my machine, and found that nice was unable to deal with it.
Exactly the points he brings up...
momentary freezes of the display (5-10 seconds)
lots of ghosting of moving
Kent West wrote:
It's my understanding that the Hurd pre-dates Linux; it's just that once
Linux came along, the development on it moved at a much faster pace than
on the Hurd, and Debian was ported to run on it while the Hurd project
languished.
For those not up on the project, as I
Hello,
On Jul 24, 9:30 am, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Write a small do-nothing program that lets me test the USR HUP
signals. Make it simple enough that a poor C programmer can
understand it. I'll compile and run it, then send you the results.
Thank you. Here is the basic form
On Jul 24, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Mike McCarty wrote:
David Brodbeck wrote:
Linux *is* under the GPL. But it's under GPL v2. The FSF is
pushing hard for Linus to relicense it under GPL v3. The two
licenses are not considered compatible.
Hmm. That's interesting. Care to elaborate? I
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 12:25:21 -0700, Glen Pfeiffer wrote:
On 07/24/2007 08:40 AM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
[...]
aptitude likes to make you panic...
LOL! And it works too. I have seen output several times that has
made me think hard before continuing. But it's silly the way it
Hmm, that's interesting. I wonder whether it should be investigated
and fixed.
there. :)
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 02:36:18PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
http://apcmag.com/6735/interview_con_kolivas
[...]
momentary freezes of the display (5-10 seconds)
lots of
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 01:41:08PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
[... the beginning of my further rant...]
I completely agree. And it kills me. I have to wonder where all this
overhead comes from. Obviously, in the case of running a cpu-intensive
long-term job, its the scheduler. But
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
[snip]
The modularity has some positives: a failure in one module will
not bring down the whole system. of course this is pretty rare in
linux these days too, but is certainly possible. It also provides some
serious security bonuses because a security failure in
Bob Proulx wrote:
David Brodbeck wrote:
To me it always smacked a little of me-too-ism, too ... the GNU
folks felt Linux wasn't GNU-ish enough, so they had to go write their
own kernel.
The GNU Hurd has existed long before Linux existed. Hurd has been in
development for many years.
Hello,
i have a setup where i have a borderline box that has 5 public IP
Addresses (this is for the sake of example: 192.0.2.8/29), all is
NATed to 10.200.10.0/24. Now the IP the provider uses as gateway is
192.0.2.9 which makes me have 192.0.2.10-14 as a usable range.
The default gateway on my
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On 07/24/07 14:36, Mike McCarty wrote:
[snip]
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$ uname -a
Linux Presario-1 2.6.10-1.771_FC2 #1 Mon Mar 28 00:50:14 EST 2005 i686
i686 i386 GNU/Linux
It took my machine 3 seconds to do a copy after selecting
that text on my screen, because
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was heard to say:
The GNU Hurd has existed long before Linux existed. Hurd has
been in development for many years. (Hurd is technology of the
future. Always has been and some say always will be. :-)
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 04:02:39PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
[snip]
The modularity has some positives: a failure in one module will
not bring down the whole system. of course this is pretty rare in
linux these days too, but is certainly possible. It also
In case somebody will find it useful, i want share it. A script that
shows updated time and some more info in terminal's status line. I've
found this fun, when i use my desktop system. It's just text mode
actually. I use X very rarely to read pdfs (that can't be pdftotext'ed)
or djview.
It's also
On 07/24/2007 01:50 PM, Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 12:25:21 -0700, Glen Pfeiffer wrote:
On 07/24/2007 08:40 AM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
aptitude likes to make you panic...
LOL! And it works too. I have seen output several times that has
made me think hard before
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 02:53:53PM -0700, Glen Pfeiffer wrote:
On 07/24/2007 01:50 PM, Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 12:25:21 -0700, Glen Pfeiffer wrote:
On 07/24/2007 08:40 AM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
aptitude likes to make you panic...
LOL! And it works too. I
On Jul 24, 2007, at 2:41 PM, Mike McCarty wrote:
I've found Linux using up to about 60% of my memory
for disc cache. This, I trow, is part of the problem.
There's been much debate about this among kernel developers, I
understand. On one side there are people who point out (quite
Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
Next time you compile things, start a couple of sessions (=separate
windows):
- vmstat 5 - to keep track of free memory and swapping
- top - sorted so the most memory hungry processes are on top
- tail -f /var/log/syslog - to see when oom-killer fires up
- a compile
David Brodbeck wrote:
On Jul 24, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Mike McCarty wrote:
I have tried running some long-term computations in the background
using my machine, and found that nice was unable to deal with it.
Exactly the points he brings up...
momentary freezes of the display (5-10 seconds)
lots
Mike McCarty wrote:
Just my $0.02. YMMV
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$ uname -a
Linux Presario-1 2.6.10-1.771_FC2 #1 Mon Mar 28 00:50:14 EST 2005 i686
i686 i386 GNU/Linux
It took my machine 3 seconds to do a copy after selecting
that text on my screen, because the disc ran that long after
I clicked on the Edit
Hi,
I am trying to get wake on lan to work in Etch. I have a motherboard
with an onboard NIC which supports wake-on-lan. I have enabled
wake-on-lan in the bios. When I poweroff the computer during POST, I am
able to remotely wake it, but if I shut it down from Etch, power to the
NIC is also
* 24-07-2007, Raj Kiran Grandhi
I am trying to get wake on lan to work in Etch. I have a motherboard
with an onboard NIC which supports wake-on-lan. I have enabled
wake-on-lan in the bios. When I poweroff the computer during POST, I am
able to remotely wake it, but if I shut it down from
Hi,
I've just started to use Linux. So I try to install Debian 4.0 into PowerBook
G4 with the minimal base system.
After installation, I've tried to reboot the PC but it was unable to load into
GUI environment(startx). The error was like this:
Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11. Server
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On 07/24/07 19:45, Mr Geo wrote:
Hi,
I've just started to use Linux. So I try to install Debian 4.0 into
PowerBook G4 with the minimal base system.
After installation, I've tried to reboot the PC but it was unable to
load into GUI
Hello
I have recently converted my machines over to Debian and am very happy.
A few things I would like to know though
#1 I currently have gnome installed can I install KDE and remove gnome
and if so how ?
#2 I like gnome but am a little disappointed in the fact that debian is
only at
Mr Geo wrote:
Hi,
I've just started to use Linux. So I try to install Debian 4.0 into
PowerBook G4 with the minimal base system.
After installation, I've tried to reboot the PC but it was unable to
load into GUI environment(startx). The error was like this:
Fatal server error:
Caught
On 7/24/07, lostson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
#1 I currently have gnome installed can I install KDE and remove gnome
and if so how ?
Sure, aptitude install kde would bring in the metapackage; hence, most or
all of KDE. As for removing gnome, I guess you can do that too: aptitude
remove gnome.
25-07-2007, Mr Geo:
I've just started to use Linux.
Congratulations!
So I try to install Debian 4.0 into Power= Book G4 with the minimal
base system.
OK, lets assume you don't scare of any shell scripting and text console
tools first, otherwise it will be very hard to yourself and to help
On 7/24/07, Mike Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I went ahead and performed the above. The compile session did crash a few
times
as usual, but the oom-killer never appeared. In fact, looking through the
logs,
it hasn't appeared since July 15th (the logs I posted earlier). So, I'm
assuming
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 08:53:13PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 06:56:18PM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote:
[issues with gmail and spam scoring]
I really can't help you with this, but for the record, they both came
through my inbox just fine...
Okay, thanks.
Hello,
I have an issue with Gnomebaker crashing with a particular CD, and my
Bug Buddy report gets rejected because there is no stack trace-back
info, i.e., debugging symbols. I read the relevant general Gnome
website page for this:
- I don't see and *-dbg package for gnomebaker, and
-
Hi all,
I just set up a printer server on my Debian box using cups and samba
server. Everything seems to be fine when I use a Windows XP Pro Client
to connect to the printer: the client can see the printer, I can add it
to the printer list, and its status is ready. I also add the windows
I commented out the lines specifying where my root filesystem
was located in fstab:
# file system mount point type options dump pass
proc/proc procdefaults0 0
#/dev/hdb3 / ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0
1
Ok...So I've tried to run
apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nv xserver-xorg-input-synaptics \
xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-mouse xorg
and it appear like this...
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree...Done
xserver-xorg-video-nv is already
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On 07/24/07 21:10, Oleg Verych wrote:
25-07-2007, Mr Geo:
I've just started to use Linux.
Congratulations!
So I try to install Debian 4.0 into Power= Book G4 with the minimal
base system.
OK, lets assume you don't scare of any shell
On 24/07/07, Robert Kopp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would like to try this technology. I have DSL delivered through a DHCP
router, a computer capable enough to be a server, and other hardware that I
would like to become clients. I expect to use Lenny as the OS.
[SNIP]
The other method is, of
* Mr Geo (25-07-2007):
Ok...So I've tried to run=20
Such kind of output (with obviously more information about your system,
gathered and proceeded by reportbug tool) is a possible bug, you just
can report to relevant package. Then experienced developers will help you
if they will find ways.
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 10:06:18PM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote:
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 08:53:13PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 06:56:18PM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote:
[issues with gmail and spam scoring]
I really can't help you with this, but for the record,
Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24/07/07, Robert Kopp wrote:
I would like to try this technology. I have DSL delivered through a DHCP
router, a computer capable enough to be a server, and other hardware that I
would like to become clients. I expect to use Lenny as the OS.
[SNIP]
The
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 10:04:36PM +, Oleg Verych wrote:
In case somebody will find it useful, i want share it. A script that
shows updated time and some more info in terminal's status line. I've
found this fun, when i use my desktop system. It's just text mode
actually. I use X very
On 25/07/07, Robert Kopp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't actually have Linux installed on my system at the moment, and am
wavering between installing Debian 4.0 and Edubuntu, which has LTSP
capabilities built in:
Edubuntu is still not fully rolled out with LTSP kinks removed. Go
with
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