Re: [OT] iceweasel vs. Firefox

2010-03-21 Thread Alok G. Singh
Apparently it is no longer an issue[1]. Footnotes: [1] http://glandium.org/blog/?p=933 -- Alok The Phone Booth Rule: A lone dime always gets the number nearly right. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact

Re: How to obtain UUID of drives (squeeze udev lacks vol_id)

2010-03-21 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100321_181749, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2010-03-21 17:52, Tom H wrote: > *You* should not need to set the UUID. It should just magically be > there. > $ /sbin/blkid -t TYPE=swap > /dev/sdb1: TYPE="swap" LABEL="swap1" \ > UUID="c69f59ff-b928-4232-b44c-8da0f12c52db" > > > >>>

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Clive McBarton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dotan Cohen wrote: > I can have as many open connections as I want, it's on the LAN. But I > would _prefer_ just one terminal window for both commands (SSH) and > file transfers. First of all, I believe the ssh protocol (not necessarily the ssh progra

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100322_010210, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 22 March 2010 00:57, Selçuk Mıynat wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 00:52, Dotan Cohen wrote: > >> I am managing a small embedded device that I SSH into over the LAN. To > >> run commands, I use KDE Konsole, and to transfer files I use Konqueror > >>

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Andrew Reid
On Sunday 21 March 2010 23:14:32 Andrew Reid wrote: > On Sunday 21 March 2010 18:52:36 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I am managing a small embedded device that I SSH into over the LAN. To > > run commands, I use KDE Konsole, and to transfer files I use Konqueror > > and SFTP. I understand that SFTP also r

don't open any e-mails sent from my hotmail account

2010-03-21 Thread Han Huynh
I think someone broke into my hotmail account and sending some type of e-mails out. Please ignore all e-mails from my hotmail account. My yahoo account if fine. If you don't know it already just replace hotmail with yahoo. It's the same ID. __

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Andrew Reid
On Sunday 21 March 2010 18:52:36 Dotan Cohen wrote: > I am managing a small embedded device that I SSH into over the LAN. To > run commands, I use KDE Konsole, and to transfer files I use Konqueror > and SFTP. I understand that SFTP also runs over SSH, so is there a way > to send files in Konsole a

Re: Wireless - RTL 8187b + wicd + wpa_supplicant - naughty behaviour

2010-03-21 Thread Rogerio Luz Coelho
> > So I got as a present a Laptop, the giver was aware that I don´t use M$ > anymore for some time now (about 5years) and she (my wife) did this as a > surprise in the coming of our new baby girl (she took pity at my old Laptop > - witch Toshiba should buy me up for historical purposes). This mean

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
> Aliases, scripts and passwordless login. > I never use them an alias on a remote system because then I will never remember which have aliases and which do not. I need to keep my knowledge portable. I have a bunch of these little critters that I need to configure: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr

Re: which kernel

2010-03-21 Thread Angus Hedger
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Rick Pasotto wrote: > Recently the 2.6.32-3-686 kernel was posted to testing. When it was > added to the grub menu it was put *after* the 2.6.32-trunk-686 kernel. > > Which is the newer kernel? If 2.6.32-3 is newer why was it placed in > second position? > > -- >

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-03-21 19:34, Dotan Cohen wrote: That could be worded better. I meant that "lls" does not exist in sftp, but it is something that I've always wanted. "man ssh" and "man scp" really are your friends! From machine_a: $ ssh u...@machine_b ls -aFl /some/remote/dir No, that's a workarou

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Dotan Cohen put forth on 3/21/2010 7:37 PM: >> http://www.mosix.org/ >> > > Thanks, Stan, but I think you missed a few messages in the thread! I > am looking for an interface to a remote machine that include features > from both sftp and ssh shell. Mosix negates those interfaces. All resources a

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Stan Hoeppner put forth on 3/21/2010 7:34 PM: > Dotan Cohen put forth on 3/21/2010 6:47 PM: >>> Sigh. What exactly are you trying to *accomplish* >>> >> >> Just an example: >> I want to move a tarball to the machine, unpack it there then edit a >> file it in. I then want to make that file exec

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
> http://www.mosix.org/ > Thanks, Stan, but I think you missed a few messages in the thread! I am looking for an interface to a remote machine that include features from both sftp and ssh shell. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-r

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
>> That could be worded better. I meant that "lls" does not exist in >> sftp, but it is something that I've always wanted. > > "man ssh" and "man scp" really are your friends! > > From machine_a: >    $ ssh u...@machine_b ls -aFl /some/remote/dir > No, that's a workaround. I'll have RSI before I g

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Dotan Cohen put forth on 3/21/2010 6:47 PM: >> Sigh. What exactly are you trying to *accomplish* >> > > Just an example: > I want to move a tarball to the machine, unpack it there then edit a > file it in. I then want to make that file executable, run it, and > transfer the output file back t

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
>> That is what I am doing. But I thought it would be nice to have it all >> in one session. > > http://i-want-a-pony.com/IWantAPony.jpg > I know! But I've actually gotten quite a few ponies by asking, thus this thread. Certainly I am not the first man to administer a remote machine with the need

which kernel

2010-03-21 Thread Rick Pasotto
Recently the 2.6.32-3-686 kernel was posted to testing. When it was added to the grub menu it was put *after* the 2.6.32-trunk-686 kernel. Which is the newer kernel? If 2.6.32-3 is newer why was it placed in second position? -- "All men recognize the right of revolution; that is, the right to

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Steve Kemp
On Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 01:27:22 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I had considered fuse, but there is no real advantage. I still need > two terminal windows open: one for transferring files (sftp) and the > second for running commands (ssh). gnu screen. One terminal. Multiple programs. Steve -- ht

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-03-21 19:10, Dotan Cohen wrote: And maybe having a "lls" (local ls) would have been nice too, something I've always missed from sftp. That could be worded better. I meant that "lls" does not exist in sftp, but it is something that I've always wanted. "man ssh" and "man scp" really a

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Dotan Cohen wrote: Why don't you have two sessions open, one for transferring through sftp and one vi and whatever else through ssh That is what I am doing. But I thought it would be nice to have it all in one session. http://i-want-a-pony.com/IWantAPony.jpg -- Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua..

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
> And maybe having a "lls" (local ls) would have been nice too, > something I've always missed from sftp. > That could be worded better. I meant that "lls" does not exist in sftp, but it is something that I've always wanted. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me i

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
> Always starting from machine_a, where machine_b is the "original" remote > host. > > METHOD A. > 1. ssh u...@machine_b > 2. scp -v u...@machine_a:/some/tar/ball . > 3. untar ... > 4. chmod u+x > 5. ./whatever > 6. scp -v output.txt u...@machine_a:/home/user/. > 7. exit > > > METHOD B. > 1. scp -v

Re: How to obtain UUID of drives (squeeze udev lacks vol_id)

2010-03-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-03-21 18:26, Tom H wrote: I'd want *proof* (i.e., booting into different distros) that different mkswap invocations generate different UUIDs. I have no idea what proof I can provide except to say that I have been caught by that. I installed a second distribution and I could either not

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 22 March 2010 01:58, Ustun Kaya wrote: > still scp: > > us...@local>ls > file.tgz > us...@local>ssh us...@remote > us...@remote>scp us...@local:file.tgz . While this is more cumbersome than "put" I will contend that it works. Frankly I am surprised that this is the lease cumbersome way, I was

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-03-21 18:47, Dotan Cohen wrote: Sigh. What exactly are you trying to *accomplish* Just an example: I want to move a tarball to the machine, unpack it there then edit a file it in. I then want to make that file executable, run it, and transfer the output file back to my localhost.

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 01:25:33AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Eh?  I think you're imposing unneeded self limits. > > > > How so? With scp I can send file to the machine that I'm remotely connected > to? Like this: # On local-machine ssh # type type type in remote-machine shell… scp local-ma

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Ustun Kaya
still scp: us...@local>ls file.tgz us...@local>ssh us...@remote us...@remote>scp us...@local:file.tgz . us...@remote>ls file.tgz us...@remote>tar xzvf file.tgz us...@remote>"do whatever you want" us...@remote> scp file.tgz us...@local: Best, Ustun On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Dotan Cohen wr

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
>  gnu screen.  One terminal.  Multiple programs. > That has no advantage over multiple terminal windows. If I cd in one of them, the other doesn't cd, for instance. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
> Sigh.  What exactly are you trying to *accomplish* > Just an example: I want to move a tarball to the machine, unpack it there then edit a file it in. I then want to make that file executable, run it, and transfer the output file back to my localhost. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http:/

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
>> How so? With scp I can send file to the machine that I'm remotely >> connected to? > > Of course.  It's a *copy* program. > For copying to a remote machine. But once I have a shell on that machine open in my terminal, I'm not able to send commands to my local machine in that terminal. >> So t

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-03-21 18:26, Dotan Cohen wrote: Yes, but then I cannot get a regular shell for vim and such. I need to both run commands and also transfer files. That's what scp is for! How can I get a shell with scp? Sigh. What exactly are you trying to *accomplish* -- "History does no

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-03-21 18:28, Dotan Cohen wrote: well you can ssh to the remote machine first, then scp back to the localhost from the remote machine, does the trick? scp is for putting files, not for getting files. That's just *not* true. It doesn't care whether the source or destination are remo

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-03-21 18:25, Dotan Cohen wrote: No, scp is for sending files to a remote machine that the user has yet to connect to: Eh? I think you're imposing unneeded self limits. How so? With scp I can send file to the machine that I'm remotely connected to? Of course. It's a *copy* program

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
> sftp is to ftp what ssh is to telnet. You did not have a telnet shell > in the past when connecting through ftp. > I realize that. > If you can only have one connection and need both shell and transfer > access, someone suggested sshfs earlier. > I can have as many open connections as I want,

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
> Why don't you have two sessions open, one for transferring through > sftp and one vi and whatever else through ssh? > That is what I am doing. But I thought it would be nice to have it all in one session. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Tom H
>> sftp. > ✈dcl:~$ sftp u...@1.2.3.4 > Connecting to 1.2.3.4... > u...@1.2.3.4's password: > sftp> which ls > Invalid command. > sftp> > > So there, no shell. I need a shell. sftp is to ftp what ssh is to telnet. You did not have a telnet shell in the past when connecting through ftp. If you can

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
> well you can ssh to the remote machine first, then scp back to the > localhost from the remote machine, does the trick? > scp is for putting files, not for getting files. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
>> Yes, but then I cannot get a regular shell for vim and such. I need to >> both run commands and also transfer files. >> > > Well, you can't. But sshfs might help, you mount a remote filesystem > (accessed via ssh) and use files as in any other filesystem. > > I had considered fuse, but there is

Re: How to obtain UUID of drives (squeeze udev lacks vol_id)

2010-03-21 Thread Tom H
> I'd want *proof* (i.e., booting into different distros) that different > mkswap invocations generate different UUIDs. I have no idea what proof I can provide except to say that I have been caught by that. I installed a second distribution and I could either not prevent it from running mkswap or

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
>> Yes, but then I cannot get a regular shell for vim and such. I need to >> both run commands and also transfer files. >> > > That's what scp is for! > How can I get a shell with scp? -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read y

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
>> No, scp is for sending files to a remote machine that the user has yet >> to connect to: > > Eh?  I think you're imposing unneeded self limits. > How so? With scp I can send file to the machine that I'm remotely connected to? > sftp. > ✈dcl:~$ sftp u...@1.2.3.4 Connecting to 1.2.3.4... u...@

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Tom H
>> The default >> /etc/ssh/sshd_config >> has a >> subsystem sftp ... >> towards the end of the file, so you should be able to run >> sftp u...@host >> and use the above ftp commands. > Yes, but then I cannot get a regular shell for vim and such. I need to > both run commands and also transfer fil

Re: How to obtain UUID of drives (squeeze udev lacks vol_id)

2010-03-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-03-21 17:52, Tom H wrote: *You* should not need to set the UUID. It should just magically be there. $ /sbin/blkid -t TYPE=swap /dev/sdb1: TYPE="swap" LABEL="swap1" \ UUID="c69f59ff-b928-4232-b44c-8da0f12c52db" You can cnahe the UUID of any ext partition with cnahe??? It is Sunday

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Ustun Kaya
well you can ssh to the remote machine first, then scp back to the localhost from the remote machine, does the trick? Best, Ustun On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2010-03-21 18:05, Dotan Cohen wrote: >>> >>> The default >>> /etc/ssh/sshd_config >>> has a >>> subsystem sft

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Dotan Cohen wrote: Yes, but then I cannot get a regular shell for vim and such. I need to both run commands and also transfer files. Well, you can't. But sshfs might help, you mount a remote filesystem (accessed via ssh) and use files as in any other filesystem. -- Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edu

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-03-21 18:05, Dotan Cohen wrote: The default /etc/ssh/sshd_config has a subsystem sftp ... towards the end of the file, so you should be able to run sftp u...@host and use the above ftp commands. Yes, but then I cannot get a regular shell for vim and such. I need to both run commands an

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-03-21 18:02, Dotan Cohen wrote: On 22 March 2010 00:57, Selçuk Mıynat wrote: On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 00:52, Dotan Cohen wrote: I am managing a small embedded device that I SSH into over the LAN. To run commands, I use KDE Konsole, and to transfer files I use Konqueror and SFTP. I unde

Re: gnash vs. flash

2010-03-21 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 00:58:28 +0200 Dotan Cohen wrote: > I understand that English is the only language in which two > negatively-oriented words do not make a positive I don't not understand that; they can. ;-} > , but two > positively-oriented words do make a negative. Cybe R. Wizard -- Re

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
> The default > /etc/ssh/sshd_config > has a > subsystem sftp ... > towards the end of the file, so you should be able to run > sftp u...@host > and use the above ftp commands. > Yes, but then I cannot get a regular shell for vim and such. I need to both run commands and also transfer files. --

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 22 March 2010 00:57, Selçuk Mıynat wrote: > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 00:52, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> I am managing a small embedded device that I SSH into over the LAN. To >> run commands, I use KDE Konsole, and to transfer files I use Konqueror >> and SFTP. I understand that SFTP also runs over S

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Tom H
> I am managing a small embedded device that I SSH into over the LAN. To > run commands, I use KDE Konsole, and to transfer files I use Konqueror > and SFTP. I understand that SFTP also runs over SSH, so is there a way > to send files in Konsole as well? I am familiar with the FTP commands > such a

Re: gnash vs. flash

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
> No. > > zeal: positive connotations. > zealot: negative connotations. > Thanks. I needed that confirmation. > English is tricky that way. > I understand that English is the only language in which two negatively-oriented words do not make a positive, but two positively-oriented words do make a

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Selçuk Mıynat
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 00:52, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I am managing a small embedded device that I SSH into over the LAN. To > run commands, I use KDE Konsole, and to transfer files I use Konqueror > and SFTP. I understand that SFTP also runs over SSH, so is there a way > to send files in Konsole as

Re: gnash vs. flash

2010-03-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-03-21 14:01, Dotan Cohen wrote: [snip] Is "zeal" a negative word as well? Googling it I see only positive connotations. No. zeal: positive connotations. zealot: negative connotations. English is tricky that way. -- Obsession with "preserving cultural heritage" is a racist impedimen

Re: How to obtain UUID of drives (squeeze udev lacks vol_id)

2010-03-21 Thread Tom H
>>> *You* should not need to set the UUID.  It should just magically be >>> there. >>> $ /sbin/blkid -t TYPE=swap >>> /dev/sdb1: TYPE="swap" LABEL="swap1" \ >>> UUID="c69f59ff-b928-4232-b44c-8da0f12c52db" >> You can cnahe the UUID of any ext partition with > cnahe??? It is Sunday and my first we

Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
I am managing a small embedded device that I SSH into over the LAN. To run commands, I use KDE Konsole, and to transfer files I use Konqueror and SFTP. I understand that SFTP also runs over SSH, so is there a way to send files in Konsole as well? I am familiar with the FTP commands such as cd, lcd,

Re: How to obtain UUID of drives (squeeze udev lacks vol_id)

2010-03-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-03-21 10:42, Tom H wrote: [snip] *You* should not need to set the UUID. It should just magically be there. $ /sbin/blkid -t TYPE=swap /dev/sdb1: TYPE="swap" LABEL="swap1" \ UUID="c69f59ff-b928-4232-b44c-8da0f12c52db" You can cnahe the UUID of any ext partition with cnahe??? tune2

Not able to change password with passwd

2010-03-21 Thread Nairolf Relsserp
Hi, recently I set up a new server using Debian testing. When I tried adding a new user a few days later, I noticed that it was impossible to set a password for the user. The error-message ist "System error" together with the information that the password is unchanged. r...@fp:/home/airflow# add

Re: Iceweasel (from backports) keeps busy cursor at startup

2010-03-21 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2010-03-21, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 20:13:22 +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > >> On 2010-03-21, Camaleón wrote: > > (...) > >>> Is someone seeing that behavior or it's just me? >>> >>> If yes, I could report it to the backport's guys. If not, something >>> went wrong at my side and an

Re: Iceweasel (from backports) keeps busy cursor at startup

2010-03-21 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 20:13:22 +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2010-03-21, Camaleón wrote: (...) >> Is someone seeing that behavior or it's just me? >> >> If yes, I could report it to the backport's guys. If not, something >> went wrong at my side and any hints would be great :-) >> >> > I see the

Enable Tapping on Elantech Touchpad?

2010-03-21 Thread Marc Shapiro
Now that my wireless is working on my eeePC (thank you, Andrei and Stephen) I have started working on other annoyances. I got sound working (Alsa was not installed by default). Now I am trying to get Taps to work on my touchpad. I have looked through the wiki and the earlier thread by Micha F

Re: git

2010-03-21 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 08:47:32PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 09:23:18AM +0100, Klaus Jantzen wrote: > > Hi, > > > > due to a discussion of git I would like to know which of the > > numerous git-packages I have to > > install on lenny when I want to use git in my local e

Re: [OT] iceweasel vs. Firefox

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
> 1) You cant use the firefox name without using the whole "branding" > (ie the copyrighted - and non free, icons), where as Mozilla had given > Debian an exception to this rule, they decided to clamp down. Debian had to clamp down because Mozilla had given _Debian_ permission. DFSG forbids accept

Re: gnash vs. flash

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
>> Is Debian not openly resisting the legal yet anti-civilian wrath of >> those who would rule us, our software, and our rights to use our >> hardware as we see fit? > > Who is "Debian"?  Some developers are just trying to create the best > possible operating system.  Not everyone is out to change

Re: Iceweasel (from backports) keeps busy cursor at startup

2010-03-21 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2010-03-21, Camaleón wrote: > Hello, > > I have udpated -in one of my testing computers running Lenny/GNOME- > Iceweasel package from backports (now featuring 3.5.8). So far so good :-) > > But I have noted that when launching the program from taskbar icon > (associated command "iceweasel %u"

Iceweasel (from backports) keeps busy cursor at startup

2010-03-21 Thread Camaleón
Hello, I have udpated -in one of my testing computers running Lenny/GNOME- Iceweasel package from backports (now featuring 3.5.8). So far so good :-) But I have noted that when launching the program from taskbar icon (associated command "iceweasel %u") Iceweasel opens fine but mouse cursor kee

Re: gnash vs. flash

2010-03-21 Thread John Hasler
Dotan writes: > Is Debian not openly resisting the legal yet anti-civilian wrath of > those who would rule us, our software, and our rights to use our > hardware as we see fit? Who is "Debian"? Some developers are just trying to create the best possible operating system. Not everyone is out to c

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Re: gnash vs. flash

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
>> I now understand that there are negative connotations with the word >> "zealot". I did not mean it in a negative way at all. Mockery is >> flattery, and it gives stage to the idea. I wouldn't want Debian to >> change it's stance on the issue at all. >> > > There are negative connotations for a g

Re: gnash vs. flash

2010-03-21 Thread Frank McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 20:15:58 +0200 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > > > The Firefox naming thing is entirely due to Mozilla's zealotry > > about their trademark. > > > > Correct. > > > > Go hang around the FSF for a while if you want to see some _real_ > >

Re: gnash vs. flash

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
>> The Firefox naming thing is entirely due to Mozilla's zealotry about >> their trademark. > > Could they be a bit sensitive, remembering the Debian ssl "patch"? Or was > that in the wrong time span? > I'm pretty sure the Iceweasel thing was before the SSL patch incident became known. >> Go han

Re: gnash vs. flash

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
> IIUC Debian changed the name upon explicit request from the Mozilla > foundation, so while it's silly, it doesn't seem to be because of > Debian's zeal. > It's both: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceweasel Therefore, I mock them both. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Pl

Re: gnash vs. flash

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 21 March 2010 17:00, John Hasler wrote: > Dotan writes: >> Extreme devotion to the principals of FOSS... > > Debian is not extreme.  "IP" law is. > IP (why is there no property tax on that, by the way) law is extreme, I agree. Debian is one of the few entities treating it with the same extreme

DBus error in squeeze i386 system with gnome

2010-03-21 Thread S Scharf
About a week ago K3b and Mythfrontend stopped working on my home squeeze system (i386 when running gnome). K3b gives me the error: Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the messag

Re: gnash vs. flash

2010-03-21 Thread John Hasler
> There is a quote, which I can't find now, which approximately says, > "Excess in defense of liberty is not excess." Said by a Republican... "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." Said by Barry Goldwat

Re: How to obtain UUID of drives (squeeze udev lacks vol_id)

2010-03-21 Thread Tom H
Recent udev packges in squeeze/sid lack vol_id command since 22 Aug 2009 (146-1).  What is the best way to obtain UUID of partition? I could read it like ... $ ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid|grep sda4 Is this the best way?  Any thoughts ? >>> blkid >> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-

Re: gnash vs. flash

2010-03-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-03-21 10:00, John Hasler wrote: Dotan writes: Extreme devotion to the principals of FOSS... Debian is not extreme. "IP" law is. ...and the willingness to sacrifice usability (confuse users with application naming, for one) to achieve that goal. The Firefox naming thing is entirely

Re: gnash vs. flash

2010-03-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
> How about Puddlerodent? Would that be an appropriate form of mockery > of the situation? I mock both Debian (zealotry) and primarily Mozilla > (love-hate relationship with FOSS and control freaks) with that one. IIUC Debian changed the name upon explicit request from the Mozilla foundation, so w

Re: gnash vs. flash

2010-03-21 Thread John Hasler
Dotan writes: > Extreme devotion to the principals of FOSS... Debian is not extreme. "IP" law is. > ...and the willingness to sacrifice usability (confuse users with >application naming, for one) to achieve that goal. The Firefox naming thing is entirely due to Mozilla's zealotry about their tr

Re: Intel Core i5 integrated graphics

2010-03-21 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:50:58 +, Pasi Oja-Nisula wrote: > Replying to myself here. Yes, it helps. I searched the closets at the > office and found a dvi cable. Change the cable, reboot and vesa works > fine with 1280x1024 resolution. So with this, I'll manage for now. > Hopefully the integrated

Re: MTA takes so much time to start (at boot)

2010-03-21 Thread Merciadri Luca
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2010-03-21 08:25, Merciadri Luca wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >>> On 2010-03-21 05:59, Merciadri Luca wrote: >>> Teemu Likonen writes: > I don't know answers to all your questions but sometimes I have had > similar problems. I fixed the slow startup by ans

Re: MTA takes so much time to start (at boot)

2010-03-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-03-21 08:25, Merciadri Luca wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 2010-03-21 05:59, Merciadri Luca wrote: Teemu Likonen writes: I don't know answers to all your questions but sometimes I have had similar problems. I fixed the slow startup by answering "Yes" to the debconf question Keep

Re: [OT] iceweasel vs. Firefox

2010-03-21 Thread Angus Hedger
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2010-03-21 07:54, John Hasler wrote: >> >> Stephen Powell writes: >>> >>> This is off topic, but why exactly did Debian have to rebrand Firefox >>> as iceweasel for their distribution? >> >> Mozilla owns the "FIREFOX" trademark and threatens

Re: Intel Core i5 integrated graphics

2010-03-21 Thread Pasi Oja-Nisula
On 2010-03-21, Pasi Oja-Nisula wrote: > So the right side of the picture is shown at the left. I just don't > know how I could adjust this. I'm using a vga cable btw, maybe dvi > cable would help? Replying to myself here. Yes, it helps. I searched the closets at the office and found a dvi cable.

Re: [OT] iceweasel vs. Firefox

2010-03-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-03-21 07:54, John Hasler wrote: Stephen Powell writes: This is off topic, but why exactly did Debian have to rebrand Firefox as iceweasel for their distribution? Mozilla owns the "FIREFOX" trademark and threatens to sue anyone who applies that label to patched versions. Debian backpor

Re: Booting from newly installed Kernel package?

2010-03-21 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 13:12 -, Jen wrote: > I have installed the Kernel package Linux-image-2.6.32-4, but can't > automatically boot from it. I thought I could just change the default number > in > /boot/grub/menu.lst, but the new kernel package is not listed in this file. Do you still have

Re: User invite is in QWERTY mode, even if my user layout is AZERTY

2010-03-21 Thread Merciadri Luca
Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:59:05 +0100, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > >> After the boot, I have chosen to start with a user window, which asks me >> the username & password of the user. The problem is that this invite >> window is in QWERTY mode, i.e. I need to write letters as if I wa

Re: MTA takes so much time to start (at boot)

2010-03-21 Thread Merciadri Luca
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2010-03-21 05:59, Merciadri Luca wrote: > >> Teemu Likonen writes: >> >>> I don't know answers to all your questions but sometimes I have had >>> similar problems. I fixed the slow startup by answering "Yes" to the >>> debconf question >>> >>> Keep number of DNS-queries

Re: Battery status is not the same using two different sources of info

2010-03-21 Thread Merciadri Luca
Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:04:37 +0100, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > >> Camaleón wrote: >> > > >>> Maybe this is something worth to report it. >>> >>> >> And when you put the cursor on the other applet, does it show exactly >> the same remaining time? >> > > Yes

Re: gnash vs. flash

2010-03-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 21 March 2010 14:42, John Hasler wrote: > Dotan writes: >> How about Puddlerodent? Would that be an appropriate form of mockery >> of the situation? I mock both Debian (zealotry) > > What "zealotry"? > Extreme devotion to the principals of FOSS, and the willingness to sacrifice usability (conf

Booting from newly installed Kernel package?

2010-03-21 Thread Jen
f not then what's the process for making it appear in the list of kernels in /boot/grub/menu.lst? Any help would be really appreciated. Thanks, Jen. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4962 (20100321) __ The message was checked by

Re: [OT] iceweasel vs. Firefox

2010-03-21 Thread John Hasler
Stephen Powell writes: > This is off topic, but why exactly did Debian have to rebrand Firefox > as iceweasel for their distribution? Mozilla owns the "FIREFOX" trademark and threatens to sue anyone who applies that label to patched versions. Debian backports security patches (Mozilla refuses to

Re: gnash vs. flash

2010-03-21 Thread John Hasler
Dotan writes: > How about Puddlerodent? Would that be an appropriate form of mockery > of the situation? I mock both Debian (zealotry) What "zealotry"? -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@

Re: How to obtain UUID of drives (squeeze udev lacks vol_id)

2010-03-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-03-21 07:03, Arthur Marsh wrote: Constantine wrote, on 05/03/10 23:24: blkid On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, Recent udev packges in squeeze/sid lack vol_id command since 22 Aug 2009 (146-1). What is the best way to obtain UUID of partition? I could read it li

Re: User invite is in QWERTY mode, even if my user layout is AZERTY

2010-03-21 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:59:05 +0100, Merciadri Luca wrote: > After the boot, I have chosen to start with a user window, which asks me > the username & password of the user. The problem is that this invite > window is in QWERTY mode, i.e. I need to write letters as if I was using > a QWERTY keyboard

Re: pivot_root. unmount old root

2010-03-21 Thread Katharina Haselhorst
Hello, fuser -m /home will list the process ids which are accessing any file under /home. Compare that to the output of "ps aux" to see which processes you need to terminate in order to be able to umount /home. Since I'm doing a pivot_root before trying to umount the old root there are s

Re: MTA takes so much time to start (at boot)

2010-03-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-03-21 05:59, Merciadri Luca wrote: Teemu Likonen writes: I don't know answers to all your questions but sometimes I have had similar problems. I fixed the slow startup by answering "Yes" to the debconf question Keep number of DNS-queries minimal (Dial-on-Demand)? Run "dpkg-recon

Re: Battery status is not the same using two different sources of info

2010-03-21 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:04:37 +0100, Merciadri Luca wrote: > Camaleón wrote: >> Maybe this is something worth to report it. >> > And when you put the cursor on the other applet, does it show exactly > the same remaining time? Yes :-) If you carefully look the picture I sent, you will see the

Re: Battery status is not the same using two different sources of info

2010-03-21 Thread Merciadri Luca
Camaleón wrote: > El Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:23:32 +0100, Merciadri Luca escribió: > > >> That is also what I think. However, these are out-of-the-box applets, >> and they should consequently be compatible (i.e. give the same results). >> >> The output of your command is the same as the info box you

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