Re: OpenOffice

2010-11-05 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <4cd53045.4000...@gmail.com>, farid wrote: >*How do I get an upgrade of Openoffice. My new Debian 5 still has office >2.4. Please help. New upstream versions are not included in normal updates to a released version of Debian. You could use one of the unreleased versions of Debian-- testing/Sq

Re: Mozilla products in Debian

2010-11-05 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In , Camaleón wrote: >I prefer having no extensions at all than browsing the web with an >unsupported browser :-). Iceweasel 3.0.x isn't unsupported; Firefox 3.0.x is.[1] Security groups don't stop disclosing vulnerabilities when Mozilla decides to stop supplying patches and the security team (

Re: how to generate pi in c

2010-11-05 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello List, On 06/11/10 12:31, Jerome BENOIT wrote: www.gnulib.org I made a mistake here: http://gmplib.org Computing billions of π digits using GMP: http://gmplib.org/pi-with-gmp.html hth, Jerome On 06/11/10 01:10, Volkan YAZICI wrote: On Fri, 5 Nov 2010, Arthur Bela writes: Does anyo

Re: how to generate pi in c

2010-11-05 Thread Jerome BENOIT
www.gnulib.org On 06/11/10 01:10, Volkan YAZICI wrote: On Fri, 5 Nov 2010, Arthur Bela writes: Does anyone has a "generate-pi.c" source code? Answer to your homework is here[1]. Also you can find a couple million digits of pi as a text file on the web. Regards. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org

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Re: OpenOffice

2010-11-05 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis
enable lenny-backports & install the latest OO.o from there 2010/11/6 farid > > *How do I get an upgrade of Openoffice. My new Debian 5 still has office > 2.4. Please help. > farid > * > debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@li

OpenOffice

2010-11-05 Thread farid
*How do I get an upgrade of Openoffice. My new Debian 5 still has office 2.4. Please help. farid * debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Problems configuring wireless with wicd on amd64 lenny

2010-11-05 Thread Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen
see below. On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 13:08, Volkan YAZICI wrote: > Hi, > > wicd just parses the outputs of ifconfig/iwconfig/iwlist/wpa_supplicant > commands. Maybe manually executing this sequence may help you to spot > the problem. Here it goes: > >  # ifconfig wlan0 up > > Now, you should be able

KVM: High CPU load with audio enabled

2010-11-05 Thread Stefan Pietsch
Hi all, I'm running a Windows XP guest in KVM. After enabling the audio support (-soundhw es1370) the CPU load of the KVM process in the host system goes up to 100%. Tested with: qemu-kvm-0.13.0 Debian 0.13.0+dfsg-1 KVM start command: kvm -m 512 -hda xp.img -soundhw es1370 Did you experience s

Re: Mozilla products in Debian

2010-11-05 Thread Rob Owens
On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 08:07:13PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 19:48:04 +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: > > > On 2010-11-05 17:48 +0100, Camaleón wrote: > > > >> Do you think Debian packages include all these bug fixes? > >> > >> http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/f

mount IDE via USB-bridge

2010-11-05 Thread Bernd Kloss
Squeeze KDE 4.4.5 Hello, I need to import my data from my former IDE-hd and thought it might be easily done with an usb-bridge. But mounting does not work. This is my old disk: Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 * 1 38298 307628653+ 83

Re: Mozilla products in Debian

2010-11-05 Thread Doug
On 11/5/2010 12:00 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2010-11-05 15:38 +0100, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:10:44 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: /snip/ I see only one reason to force the upgrade of a stock package with a newer version and is precisely the lack of support (nor patches

Re: Mozilla products in Debian (was: A question for the list:)

2010-11-05 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Klistvud wrote: > Dne, 05. 11. 2010 15:10:44 je Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. napisal(a): > >> No. That's NOT what those who know and love Debian stable want. The >> lack of >> upstream changes is one of the main reasons I use stable on servers. > > +1 > You can say that again. > +2 Seriously! I d

Re: getting rid of errors in Xorg.0.log

2010-11-05 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Andrei Popescu wrote: > >> ii xserver-xorg-video-radeon1:6.13.1-2 >> X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI Radeon display driver > > You need a newer kernel, probably the one from squeeze. Could you please elaborate why I need a new kernel? Where is the incompatibility? thanks -- Kamaraju S

Re: New DNS serwer - hardware

2010-11-05 Thread Allan Wind
On 2010-11-05T22:29:01, pch0317 wrote: > How to check number of DNS request to current DNS machines (how to > check current DNS load). The first step is to identify the dns server (software like bind) you use, then you want to consult the documentation for said software to answer your question o

New DNS serwer - hardware

2010-11-05 Thread pch0317
Hi I must buy new DNS servers (hardware) to our company. Now DNS (bind on debian) works on PC machine (3 identical NS servers). How to check number of DNS request to current DNS machines (how to check current DNS load). How to match new server components like processor, memory and other to thi

Re: Searching inside e-mail clients (was: KMail - forwarding issues)

2010-11-05 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 07:01:28 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 16:35:31 -0400, Celejar wrote: > > > On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 15:48:30 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > > > > ... > > > >> with mbox and searching strings in Icedove is bit slow if mbox files > >> are big (measured in GiB :-

Re: Problems configuring wireless with wicd on amd64 lenny

2010-11-05 Thread Rob Owens
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 10:27:45PM -0300, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: > I have just installed lenny from cd-1 (5.0.6), but I cannot get wireless > network > to work. I have installed wicd from lenny-backports, and followed the > instructions on > the page > http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowTo

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 14:53:05 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > Celejar writes: > > Someone who was doing ordinary stable upgrades would see the warnings > > in the release notes, but it was pretty easy to get bitten by this if > > you were just tracking Sid. > > Which is why you should not "track" Sid

Re: lenny & thunderbird filters-SOLVED!

2010-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 16:04:08 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On 11/05/2010 12:18 PM, Camaleón wrote: (about the 4 GiB space limit per folder in Thunderbird...) > how do you know if you are reaching the 4GiB limit? I would expect a warning message written in old arcane gibberish stating that yo

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread John Hasler
Celejar writes: > Someone who was doing ordinary stable upgrades would see the warnings > in the release notes, but it was pretty easy to get bitten by this if > you were just tracking Sid. Which is why you should not "track" Sid at all. Since any DD can upload to it at any time (that is what "un

Re: Mozilla products in Debian

2010-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 19:48:04 +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2010-11-05 17:48 +0100, Camaleón wrote: > >> Do you think Debian packages include all these bug fixes? >> >> http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox30.html > > No, MFSA 2009-11 is not fixed (that is a Firefox-only

Re: lenny & thunderbird filters-SOLVED!

2010-11-05 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 11/05/2010 12:18 PM, Camaleón wrote: >> oh, ow, I did not know that. so, is archiving the answer? > I hate archiving (I hold "fresh" e-mails dated on 1999) :-P I also note that archiving is ONLY for IMAP folders, so it is useless to me, because I have everything filtered to LOCAL folders.. Tyou

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 13:50:08 +0100 Klistvud wrote: ... > Among the distros I did try out - Knoppix, Ubuntu, OpenSuSE, Mandriva, > and some minor ones - there is not a single one I'd be willing to > revert to. I guess there's a reason I'm staying with Debian after all > ;-) ... Ideological

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 18:19:55 +0200 Andrei Popescu wrote: ... > I don't recall the last time sid was broken so that manual intervention > was needed to get the system running, but individual applications can > have annoying bugs. Let's consider something like the kernel switch to the libata dri

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 18:19:55 +0200 Andrei Popescu wrote: ... > I don't recall the last time sid was broken so that manual intervention > was needed to get the system running, but individual applications can > have annoying bugs. I've been using Sid for years, and while it's usually perfectly u

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread John Hasler
Arnt Karlsen writes: > ..IME, it's "Unstable", it and "Experimental" doesn't quite live up to > the expectations of adrenaline kicks you want from these PR'y > buzzwords. ;o) Don't try to install Experimental, though. It is not intended to be a complete distribution: just an archive for experimen

RE: how to generate pi in c

2010-11-05 Thread owens
> > > > Original Message >From: jozsi.avad...@gmail.com >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Subject: RE: how to generate pi in c >Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 17:40:27 +0100 > >>Does anyone has a "generate-pi.c" source code? >> >>Thanks.. :D :\ >> >> GIYF http://www.dartmouth.edu/~rc/classes/soft_

Re: Mozilla products in Debian

2010-11-05 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-11-05 17:48 +0100, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 17:00:13 +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: > >> That is true, but the Debian iceweasel/xulrunner maintainer and the >> security team backport security fixes. > > How is that possible? :-? > > As soon as Mozilla stopped offering security

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread godo
I hate to ask the question this way, but in terms of problems/fixes/downtime--approximately how often do you find that you have to 'fix' something in Sid? 1x week, 1x month? (I know that my MMV, but if I start playing with either testing or unstable, I don't want to get into a problem/find fix

Re: linux-image for i586

2010-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 01:10:14 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > Camaleón: > >> How is that? Are you saying that you cannot boot a Pentium III using >> i686 kernel? It is designed explicitly for that architecture :-? > > No. I say that it is impossible to load the kernel packaged for i686 on > Pentium CPU

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:17:12 -0400, Andrew wrote in message <4cd403d8.50...@walrusgroup.com>: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/5/10 8:56 AM, John Hasler wrote: > > ZephyrQ writes: > >> Lately, though, Debian seems 'stale'. > > > > If you are talking about a desktop an

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread godo
I really want Thunderbird and Firefox, with their familiar icons, on my screen, not the goofy clones that Debian has come up with. Why not install Firefox and Thunderbird in /opt? I was looking to replace SuSE 10.1, because it wouldn't play music; none of the SuSEs I have had ever would. That'

Re: linux-image for i586

2010-11-05 Thread Sthu Deus
Camaleón: > How is that? Are you saying that you cannot boot a Pentium III using > i686 kernel? It is designed explicitly for that architecture :-? No. I say that it is impossible to load the kernel packaged for i686 on Pentium CPU - not Pentium III CPU. You are right, - it is packaged for the Pe

No hidden/backup files in desktop (GNOME)

2010-11-05 Thread Camaleón
Hello, I am hitting an strange behavior in both lenny and squeeze systems. Hidden (".my_hidden_file") or backup ("my_backup_file~") files cannot be displayed on the desktop but they can be viewed/managed/accessed/deleted within nautilus file manager, MC or command line (ls -l). Needless to say

Re: linux-image for i586

2010-11-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 07:14:18 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message : > On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 07:52:44 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > > > Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón: > > > >> No, I cannot see any i586 kernel (i686 is the right one for > >> pentium). > > > > AFAIK the kernel will not

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread John Hasler
ZephyrQ writes: > I hate to ask the question this way, but in terms of > problems/fixes/downtime--approximately how often do you find that you > have to 'fix' something in Sid? 1x week, 1x month? Once every year or two (but I use neither Gnome nor KDE). The fix usually consists of waiting for a

Re: how to generate pi in c

2010-11-05 Thread Michal
On 05/11/10 16:40, Arthur Bela wrote: Does anyone has a "generate-pi.c" source code? Thanks.. :D :\ Don't cross post like that, your just doubling up on people doing your own research for you -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: *fox + gmail

2010-11-05 Thread Richard Lawrence
I recently had a problem with Google Docs -- they started saying Iceweasel was an unsupported browser. The fix was to modify the User-Agent string. I'm not sure if this will help the OP or not, but the Docs issue was discussed (with instructions for changing your User-Agent string) here: http://

Re: how to generate pi in c

2010-11-05 Thread Volkan YAZICI
On Fri, 5 Nov 2010, Arthur Bela writes: > Does anyone has a "generate-pi.c" source code? Answer to your homework is here[1]. Also you can find a couple million digits of pi as a text file on the web. Regards. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi#Estimating_.CF.80 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I hate to ask the question this way, but in terms of > problems/fixes/downtime--approximately how often do you find that you > have to 'fix' something in Sid? 1x week, 1x month? (I know that my > MMV, but if I start playing with either testing or unstable, I don't > want to get into a problem/f

Re: Mozilla products in Debian

2010-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 17:00:13 +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2010-11-05 15:38 +0100, Camaleón wrote: > >> What happens with Mozilla packages (more exactly with >> Firefox/Iceweasel) is that upstream version correct security flaws, >> meaning that right now, Debian's lenny stock version of Iceweas

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 05 Nov 2010, ZephyrQ wrote: > > I hate to ask the question this way, but in terms of > problems/fixes/downtime--approximately how often do you find that you > have to 'fix' something in Sid? 1x week, 1x month? (I know that my > MMV, but if I start playing with either testing or unstable, I do

how to generate pi in c

2010-11-05 Thread Arthur Bela
Does anyone has a "generate-pi.c" source code? Thanks.. :D :\ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinw53os6zrdwmnyvmx6mo5fwf_jetvdw4l9g...@mail.gmai

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread Joe
On 05/11/10 15:54, ZephyrQ wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: On Vi, 05 nov 10, 10:18:04, John Hasler wrote: Drew writes: Consider installing apt-listbugs if you're going to run sid. Good point. Also, don't feel that you should "track" Unstable. Upgrade individual packages as needed and do an occ

Re: *fox + gmail

2010-11-05 Thread Nuno Magalhães
I'd go for clearing cookies and cache first, and making sure you're not blocking any scripts. HTH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimhm-zu62b6od

Re: *fox + gmail

2010-11-05 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Sex, 05 Nov 2010, "B. Alexander" wrote: I'm having a weird problem on my workstation at home. I can't do anything on gmail any more. I can pull the site up and look at emails, but I can't compose, I can't go into the settings and my chat contacts are gone. This started happening about 2 days a

*fox + gmail

2010-11-05 Thread B. Alexander
I'm having a weird problem on my workstation at home. I can't do anything on gmail any more. I can pull the site up and look at emails, but I can't compose, I can't go into the settings and my chat contacts are gone. This started happening about 2 days ago. I'm running 32-bit sid (with an amd64 ker

Re: Problems configuring wireless with wicd on amd64 lenny

2010-11-05 Thread Volkan YAZICI
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010, Volkan YAZICI writes: > Now cross your fingers and hope wpa_supplicant do the rest: > > # wpa_supplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -i wlan0 -d > > The debugging output should tell you more. Inform us about the progress, > maybe we can help you further. And

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Vi, 05 nov 10, 10:54:23, ZephyrQ wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Vi, 05 nov 10, 10:18:04, John Hasler wrote: > >> Drew writes: > >>> Consider installing apt-listbugs if you're going to run sid. > >> Good point. Also, don't feel that you should "track" Unstable. Upgrade > >> individual pa

Re: lenny & thunderbird filters-SOLVED!

2010-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 11:52:50 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On 11/05/2010 11:43 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> And that remembers me the third of the Thunderbird's annoyances: >> storage files for each folder cannot go beyong 4 GiB). > oh, ow, I did not know that. so, is archiving the answer? I hate

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread Alan Ianson
On Fri November 5 2010 08:54:23 am ZephyrQ wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Vi, 05 nov 10, 10:18:04, John Hasler wrote: > >> Drew writes: > >>> Consider installing apt-listbugs if you're going to run sid. > >> > >> Good point. Also, don't feel that you should "track" Unstable. Upgrade > >>

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread Michal
On 05/11/10 02:50, ZephyrQ wrote: If you could not/did not use Debian (either Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid), which other distribution would you use and why? Since I don't use debian for everything and it depends what I'm doing, I can't really answer that. For firewalls, load balancers, routers (wher

Re: Problems configuring wireless with wicd on amd64 lenny

2010-11-05 Thread Volkan YAZICI
Hi, wicd just parses the outputs of ifconfig/iwconfig/iwlist/wpa_supplicant commands. Maybe manually executing this sequence may help you to spot the problem. Here it goes: # ifconfig wlan0 up Now, you should be able to see the available list accessible APs: # iwlist wlan0 scan If everythi

Re: Mozilla products in Debian

2010-11-05 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-11-05 15:38 +0100, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:10:44 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > >> On Friday 05 November 2010 08:13:41 Camaleón wrote: > >>> > Thirdly, the policy of no new upstream versions after release isn't >>> > changed for volatile. (It is changed for volati

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread ZephyrQ
Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Vi, 05 nov 10, 10:18:04, John Hasler wrote: >> Drew writes: >>> Consider installing apt-listbugs if you're going to run sid. >> Good point. Also, don't feel that you should "track" Unstable. Upgrade >> individual packages as needed and do an occasional dist-upgrade if y

Re: lenny & thunderbird filters-SOLVED!

2010-11-05 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 11/05/2010 11:43 AM, Camaleón wrote: > You can set "auto-compact" your folders by defining so under Preferences/ > advanced/network and disk space. thank you!! > "Compacting" is another of the annoyances of Thunderbird but is a "must- > do" task (if you avoid doing so your mailbox files will gr

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Vi, 05 nov 10, 10:18:04, John Hasler wrote: > Drew writes: > > Consider installing apt-listbugs if you're going to run sid. > > Good point. Also, don't feel that you should "track" Unstable. Upgrade > individual packages as needed and do an occasional dist-upgrade if you > feel the need to cl

Re: lenny & thunderbird filters-SOLVED!

2010-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 10:31:28 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On 11/05/2010 04:15 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> Also, you can try (just in case) to "rebuild index" and/or "compacting" >> the offending folder. Thunderbird (Icedove) sometimes can go nuts with >> its internal bd and hides e-mails or does wei

Re: Problems configuring wireless with wicd on amd64 lenny

2010-11-05 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Vi, 05 nov 10, 15:12:28, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: > see below. > 03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x > 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter [168c:001c] (rev 01) > [8.953484] ath5k_pci :03:00.0: registered as 'phy0' > [8.958255] ath5k

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread John Hasler
Drew writes: > Consider installing apt-listbugs if you're going to run sid. Good point. Also, don't feel that you should "track" Unstable. Upgrade individual packages as needed and do an occasional dist-upgrade if you feel the need to clean things up. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Problems configuring wireless with wicd on amd64 lenny

2010-11-05 Thread Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen
see below. On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:07, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Jo, 04 nov 10, 22:27:45, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: >> I have just installed lenny from cd-1 (5.0.6), but I cannot get wireless >> network >> to work. I have installed wicd from lenny-backports, and followed the >> instr

Re: Problems configuring wireless with wicd on amd64 lenny

2010-11-05 Thread peasthope
From: Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 22:27:45 -0300 > ... wicd does not recognize the wireless network Do you have a twisted pair adapter for the machine? PCMCIA or USB. Might help to get a wired connection working first. Regards, ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1

Re: Mozilla products in Debian (was: A question for the list:)

2010-11-05 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 05. 11. 2010 15:10:44 je Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. napisal(a): No. That's NOT what those who know and love Debian stable want. The lack of upstream changes is one of the main reasons I use stable on servers. +1 You can say that again. -- Cheerio, Klistvud

Re: Mozilla products in Debian (was: A question for the list:)

2010-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:10:44 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Friday 05 November 2010 08:13:41 Camaleón wrote: >> > Thirdly, the policy of no new upstream versions after release isn't >> > changed for volatile. (It is changed for volatile-sloppy.) >> >> And that is what people wants to

Re: lenny & thunderbird filters

2010-11-05 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 11/05/2010 08:56 AM, Camaleón wrote: > An IMAP server (Dovecot) can be run in the local machine but it is still > and IMAP account and so having its glitches (it can experience a > different behaviour than local ones). Just check if the same happens for > local messages. MOST of the problems

Re: lenny & thunderbird filters-SOLVED!

2010-11-05 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 11/05/2010 04:15 AM, Camaleón wrote: > Also, you can try (just in case) to "rebuild index" and/or "compacting" > the offending folder. Thunderbird (Icedove) sometimes can go nuts with > its internal bd and hides e-mails or does weird things :-) ok, I JUST had a new message in a folder. Hit "N"

Re: Mozilla products in Debian (was: A question for the list:)

2010-11-05 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 05 November 2010 08:13:41 Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 07:54:29 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > In , Camaleón wrote: > >>On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 00:30:11 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > >>> There is a third choice, I guess: Ship firefox / thunderbird in > >>> non-free

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread Andrew Winnenberg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/5/10 8:56 AM, John Hasler wrote: > ZephyrQ writes: >> Lately, though, Debian seems 'stale'. > > If you are talking about a desktop and want to be on the bleeding edge > use Unstable. It's quite usable. Consider installing apt-listbugs if you'r

Re: Mozilla products in Debian (was: A question for the list:)

2010-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 07:54:29 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In , Camaleón wrote: >>On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 00:30:11 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >>> There is a third choice, I guess: Ship firefox / thunderbird in >>> non-free. Support for non-free is best-effort, which basically means

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread John Hasler
ZephyrQ writes: > Lately, though, Debian seems 'stale'. If you are talking about a desktop and want to be on the bleeding edge use Unstable. It's quite usable. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact li

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <4cd3ede6.20...@sbcglobal.net>, ZephyrQ wrote: >Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> ZephyrQ put forth on 11/4/2010 9:50 PM: >>> If you could not/did not use Debian (either Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid), >>> which other distribution would you use and why? >> >> What situation are you in that motivates this questi

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20101105090054.gc4...@wasteland.homelinux.net>, Jochen Schulz wrote: >Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.: >> In <4cd3921a.5090...@optonline.net>, Doug wrote: >>> One thing I >>> really _don't_ like about Debian is its fear of the copyright. I really >>> want >>> Thunderbird and Firefox, with their familia

Re: networkmanager blocking evolution

2010-11-05 Thread Johan Scheepers
On 05/11/2010 00:12, Bob Proulx wrote: Johan Scheepers wrote: Standalone laptop using debian squeeze freeze on a dsl modem connected by cable. All my internet applications work but evolution send/receive greyed out. This is another one of those annoying bugs related to network-manage

Re: lenny & thunderbird filters

2010-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 07:55:46 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On 11/05/2010 07:25 AM, Camaleón wrote: (...) >> Maybe you can find something there that make your bells ring :-? >> >> P.S. Just out of curiosity... does it happen only with imap mailboxes >> or also with local stored messages? > no

Re: Mozilla products in Debian (was: A question for the list:)

2010-11-05 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In , Camaleón wrote: >On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 00:30:11 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> There is a third choice, I guess: Ship firefox / thunderbird in >> non-free. Support for non-free is best-effort, which basically means >> that if upstream is willing to fix it then the security team / >> mai

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 05. 11. 2010 12:50:14 je ZephyrQ napisal(a): > gNewSense. > How stable/solid is it? I've looked at it and am intrigued... I must have misunderstood your question. I have never tried gNewSense, I was just pointing out that, personally, the only distros I would be willing to try out a

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello, On 05/11/10 19:43, ZephyrQ wrote: Stan Hoeppner wrote: ZephyrQ put forth on 11/4/2010 9:50 PM: If you could not/did not use Debian (either Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid), which other distribution would you use and why? What situation are you in that motivates this question? Not a specific

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 05. 11. 2010 12:43:34 je ZephyrQ napisal(a): I realize that Debian's 'stableness' contributes to its 'staleness', It doesn't just "contribute". There's a reason why there's only a small "b" of difference between "staleness" and "stableness". -- Cheerio, Klistvud

Anyone compile Thunderbird (was: Mozilla products in Debian (was: A question for the list:))

2010-11-05 Thread S Scharf
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 5:10 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:04:46 +, Chris wrote: > > >> How about "volatile"? :-? > >> > >> ClamAV packages are there for that precisely reason (they need to be > >> updated -security fixes- very often). > >> > > Why not simply grab the package fr

Re: lenny & thunderbird filters

2010-11-05 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 11/05/2010 07:25 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> ah, I think I found it under folder properties.. repair Folder? > Mmm, it should be called "rebuild index", even in "plain English" :-P > > http://raisedbyturtles.org/wp-content/uploads/tb-rebuild-index.png > > Not sure if that will help with your "phantom

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread ZephyrQ
Klistvud wrote: > Dne, 05. 11. 2010 03:50:07 je ZephyrQ napisal(a): >> If you could not/did not use Debian (either Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid), >> which other distribution would you use and why? > > gNewSense. > How stable/solid is it? I've looked at it and am intrigued... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread ZephyrQ
Stan Hoeppner wrote: > ZephyrQ put forth on 11/4/2010 9:50 PM: >> If you could not/did not use Debian (either Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid), >> which other distribution would you use and why? > > What situation are you in that motivates this question? Not a specific situation, merely an exploration. I

Re: lenny & thunderbird filters

2010-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 06:49:43 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On 11/05/2010 04:15 AM, Camaleón wrote: (...) >> Also, you can try (just in case) to "rebuild index" and/or "compacting" >> the offending folder. Thunderbird (Icedove) sometimes can go nuts with >> its internal bd and hides e-mails or

Re: Problems configuring wireless with wicd on amd64 lenny

2010-11-05 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Jo, 04 nov 10, 22:27:45, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: > I have just installed lenny from cd-1 (5.0.6), but I cannot get wireless > network > to work. I have installed wicd from lenny-backports, and followed the > instructions on > the page > http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse > but wicd

Re: lenny & thunderbird filters

2010-11-05 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 11/04/2010 11:52 PM, Johan Grönqvist wrote: > Yes, I have seen this, without filters, but for a newsgroup account > (news.gmane.org), and it seems to happen when I fetch new messages > several times before reading through the new messages, and even then I > only see it sometimes. I haven't done

Re: lenny & thunderbird filters

2010-11-05 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 11/05/2010 04:15 AM, Camaleón wrote: > Mmm... so you have a folder with no unread messages but still stating > there is (1) unread messages (marked in bold) in the folder's pane. Right? correct. > Could it be that you are applying some kind of rules for displaying only > messages that matches

Re: getting rid of errors in Xorg.0.log

2010-11-05 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Ma, 02 nov 10, 21:54:43, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Can someone please help me on how to configure X to get rid of the following > errors. > > $ grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER > (

Re: aptitude

2010-11-05 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Ma, 02 nov 10, 16:43:46, patrick wrote: > > if a system is using the bigmem kernel: > > uname -a > Linux buddy2 2.6.26-1-686-bigmem #1 SMP Fri Mar 13 18:52:29 UTC 2009 > i686 GNU/Linux You should probably just install the linux-image-2.6-686-bigmem package, which depends on the latest -686-b

Re: Mozilla products in Debian (was: A question for the list:)

2010-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:04:46 +, Chris wrote: >> How about "volatile"? :-? >> >> ClamAV packages are there for that precisely reason (they need to be >> updated -security fixes- very often). >> > Why not simply grab the package from mozilla and install under /opt Sent It lacks system integrat

Re: Mozilla products in Debian (was: A question for the list:)

2010-11-05 Thread Chris
Why not simply grab the package from mozilla and install under /opt Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Camaleón Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 08:38:21 To: Subject: Mozilla products in Debian (was: A question for the list:) On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 00:30:11 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith J

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread Jochen Schulz
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.: > In <4cd3921a.5090...@optonline.net>, Doug wrote: >> >> One thing I >> really _don't_ like about Debian is its fear of the copyright. I really >> want >> Thunderbird and Firefox, with their familiar icons, on my screen, not the >> goofy clones that Debian has come up with

Re: initex and virtex

2010-11-05 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello List, On 05/11/10 03:35, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: According to the man page, it seems initex and virtex are now replaced by tex -ini and tex according to the same man page: "If they exist, then both initex and virtex are symbolic links to the tex executable." The issue is rath

Mozilla products in Debian (was: A question for the list:)

2010-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 00:30:11 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: (...) > There is a third choice, I guess: Ship firefox / thunderbird in > non-free. Support for non-free is best-effort, which basically means > that if upstream is willing to fix it then the security team / > maintainers will pac

heads-up: me considering to run another favourite FLOSS poll

2010-11-05 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi, So I've been running this poll for a few years now, and am considering doing it yet again. Don't hesitate to reply if you have suggestions. Here's a list of older results: http://tshepang.tumblr.com/post/654031894. -- blog: http://tshepang.tumblr.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-u

Re: Size of minimal Debian installation

2010-11-05 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 01 nov 10, 20:45:49, gun_sm...@shellium.org wrote: > I agree, it has been a while for me as well. I only remember gcc > coming in > with build-essential on my end, which I always need. > (headers|make|gcc|etc) build-essential should be installed on a user system only as a dependency of dk

Re: lenny & thunderbird filters

2010-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 20:55:30 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On 11/04/2010 07:37 PM, Camaleón wrote: >> Why do you think the problem of the shortcut ("N") for going to the >> next unread messsage has any connection with the filters? :-? > hm.. not sure, I just ASSuMEd.. X-) Anyway, when you sus

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread Roman Khomasuridze
> > > If you could not/did not use Debian (either Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid), > > which other distribution would you use and why? > Occasionally PClinuxOS on desktops, and occasionally CentOS in server room. Regards Roman

Re: networkmanager blocking evolution

2010-11-05 Thread Tixy
On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 22:57 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: > Good day, > > Standalone laptop using debian squeeze freeze on a dsl modem connected > by cable. > > All my internet applications work but evolution send/receive greyed out. Quick answer, edit the file /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-se

Re: A question for the list:

2010-11-05 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 05. 11. 2010 03:50:07 je ZephyrQ napisal(a): If you could not/did not use Debian (either Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid), which other distribution would you use and why? gNewSense. Failing that, anything from http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html -- Cheerio, Klistvud

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