Re: MUA & Yahoo Mail (WAS:Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?)

2013-04-24 Thread Patrick Bartek
> From: Dave Thayer >  > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 07:44:29PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: >> >> How?  What MUA did you use?  When I initially set up my Yahoo Mail accounts > (I have several)--this was years ago--there was no option with the free > accounts > for POP3 or IMAP.  It was speci

Re: MUA & Yahoo Mail (WAS:Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?)

2013-04-24 Thread Dave Thayer
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 07:44:29PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > How?  What MUA did you use?  When I initially set up my Yahoo Mail accounts > (I have several)--this was years ago--there was no option with the free > accounts for POP3 or IMAP.  It was specifically said that if you wanted it,

Re: MUA & Yahoo Mail (WAS:Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?)

2013-04-24 Thread Patrick Bartek
> From: Brad Rogers >  > On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:33:45 -0700 (PDT) > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Hello Patrick, > >> As far as I understand, with the free Yahoo Mail that I use, you're not >> able to use a traditional MUA.  It's browser-based only. However, if >> you use the "pay" version, wh

Re: Why does my ssh session terminate immediately?

2013-04-24 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-04-24 23:19:19 +0200, Andreas Leha wrote: > So it says 'disconnected by user'? I might mention, that can login to > (all) other machines with that client without problems. It can be a bug on the remote side thinking that. I don't have any other idea... -- Vincent Lefèvre - Web:

Re: Why does my ssh session terminate immediately?

2013-04-24 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-04-24 23:38:06 +0200, Andreas Leha wrote: > Vincent Lefevre writes: > > On 2013-04-24 05:03:53 +0200, Andreas Leha wrote: > >> Vincent Lefevre writes: > >> >> BTW, does "ssh -t localhost" work on both machines? > >> > >> I am not sure. On the 'client' it does. On the 'server' I get thi

Und last aptitude safe-upgrade

2013-04-24 Thread Dan
Hi, I did an aptitude safe-upgrade of my Squeeze debian. And now the drivers for the graphics card are broken. I am using an Radeon Graphics card, but I downloaded the drivers directly from the webpage. How could I undo the aptitude safe-upgrade in order to use the xserver version that I was usin

Re: touch /var/lib/sudo/$USER / use sudo when unlocking xscreensaver (xfce)

2013-04-24 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 4/25/13, Wolfgang Karall wrote: > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:56:30PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> > If I understand you correctly, you never want to type a password when >> > running your commands with sudo? >> >> Not quite. I want sudo 'activated' when I enter my password. >> >> Ie, when I

Re: Why does my ssh session terminate immediately?

2013-04-24 Thread Andreas Leha
Andreas Leha writes: > Hi Jean-Marc, > > thanks for your suggestions. See the results inline. > > Jean-Marc writes: > >> On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 05:03:53 +0200, Andreas Leha >> wrote: >> Hi Andreas, >> >> Did you check your sshd config' ? >> You can do it running: >> sshd -t > > I get nothing -- w

Re: Why does my ssh session terminate immediately?

2013-04-24 Thread Andreas Leha
Hi Vincent, thanks for staying on this! Vincent Lefevre writes: > On 2013-04-24 05:03:53 +0200, Andreas Leha wrote: >> Vincent Lefevre writes: >> >> BTW, does "ssh -t localhost" work on both machines? >> >> I am not sure. On the 'client' it does. On the 'server' I get this: >> , >> | >

Re: Why does my ssh session terminate immediately?

2013-04-24 Thread Andreas Leha
Hi Jean-Marc, thanks for your suggestions. See the results inline. Jean-Marc writes: > On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 05:03:53 +0200, Andreas Leha > wrote: > Hi Andreas, > > Did you check your sshd config' ? > You can do it running: > sshd -t I get nothing -- which I think is good in this case. > > Yo

Re: MUA & Yahoo Mail (WAS:Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?)

2013-04-24 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:33:45 -0700 (PDT) Patrick Bartek wrote: Hello Patrick, >As far as I understand, with the free Yahoo Mail that I use, you're not >able to use a traditional MUA.  It's browser-based only. However, if >you use the "pay" version, which is IMAP or POP-based, you can use any >MU

Re: Wheezy Sleezy Gnome

2013-04-24 Thread John L. Cunningham
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 09:07:56AM -0700, Steven Rosenberg wrote: > > I got quite used to GNOME 3. When I started mousing into the hot-corner on > non-GNOME systems, I knew that GNOME Shell had won me over. I find myself hitting the Super key all the time to do the same thing. > > But I'm still

Re: Wheezy Sleezy Gnome

2013-04-24 Thread Patrick Bartek
> From: Ralf Mardorf >  > On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:03:49 +0200, Morel Bérenger  > wrote: >> Maybe you could take a look at LXDE? There are still dependencies to GTK2 >> as XFCE, but those are not Gnome deps... > > I'll switch to another DE, as soon as I've got more time for the > computer.

Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?

2013-04-24 Thread Patrick Bartek
> From: Anthony Campbell >  > On 23 Apr 2013, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > [snip] > >> > Another problem is that your posts are peppered with lots of codes >  >> [snip]   >> >> Hope the problem is solvable from your end. > > Yes; it wasn't entirely your (or Yahoo's) fault. I had some line

Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?

2013-04-24 Thread Patrick Bartek
> From: Ralf Mardorf >  > On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 21:43 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >> If you have any suggestions, I'll consider them.  I have no dying > loyalty to Yahoo. > > Stay with Yahoo, but use an MUA. Can't use an MUA with the free version of Yahoo Mail.  Browser only.  At leas

MUA & Yahoo Mail (WAS:Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?)

2013-04-24 Thread Patrick Bartek
> From: Ralf Mardorf > > On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 10:28 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: >> Are you *really* forced into using yahoo, it really is horrible (not >> sure which is worse hotmail or yahoo.) for communicating on mailing >> lists. > > Info: > > You're free to use Yahoo with a MUA.

Re: Wheezy Sleezy Gnome

2013-04-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:03:49 +0200, Morel Bérenger wrote: Maybe you could take a look at LXDE? There are still dependencies to GTK2 as XFCE, but those are not Gnome deps... I'll switch to another DE, as soon as I've got more time for the computer. At the moment I've got unpleasant things to

Re: How do I list installed packages?

2013-04-24 Thread Mark Weyer
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:12:44PM +0200, Mark Weyer wrote: > The title is imprecise. Actually, the question is: How do I list installed > packages except those automatically installed to satisfy dependencies. In > aptitude that would be packages marked as "i " but not as "i A". And if > there

Re: touch /var/lib/sudo/$USER / use sudo when unlocking xscreensaver (xfce)

2013-04-24 Thread Wolfgang Karall
Hello, On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:56:30PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > If I understand you correctly, you never want to type a password when > > running your commands with sudo? > > Not quite. I want sudo 'activated' when I enter my password. > > Ie, when I log in to XFCE, or when I unlock

Guvcview Sound Problem

2013-04-24 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
Wheezy/Testing 64bit I have a problem with the video sound in guvcview. The video works, but the sound doesn't, although I have sound in the browsers I have installed. I recorded a log file (attached) which contains a bunch of error messages, for example: ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refe

Re: Wheezy Sleezy Gnome

2013-04-24 Thread Steven Rosenberg
Until the motherboard died, I had both GNOME 3 and Xfce on my Wheezy laptop, and I'd go between one and the other. I got quite used to GNOME 3. When I started mousing into the hot-corner on non-GNOME systems, I knew that GNOME Shell had won me over. But I'm still using Xfce from time to time. It

Re: alternative email clients (was ... Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?)

2013-04-24 Thread Luca Cappelletti
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 03:32:41PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > OTOH, I didn't find another mailer that fit halfway to my needs and that > > does work with the provider settings I need. > > There is geary. > http://www.yorba.org/proj

alternative email clients (was ... Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?)

2013-04-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 03:32:41PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > OTOH, I didn't find another mailer that fit halfway to my needs and that > does work with the provider settings I need. There is geary. http://www.yorba.org/projects/geary/ I've never used it, myself, but it is an alternative to c

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-24 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 24 April 2013 12:13:07 Richard Owlett wrote: > I've the free version of 9.00. Listed option to disable > updating not available. The Linux version of 9 (I have 9.5.4) has nothing at all of any kind about updating. So far as I can see it is not an option. Are you sure that you are

Re: Wheezy Sleezy Gnome

2013-04-24 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Mer 24 avril 2013 7:56, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : > > On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 19:08 -0700, cletusjenkins wrote: > >> xfce looks the best of the bunch to me. > > Xfce4 has got to many GNOME dependencies. I'm using it since years, but > I don't like it, I just couldn't find a good DE until now. Things

Re: dcut: who does run the .commands files ?

2013-04-24 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hi, On 24/04/13 15:30, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 01:46:28PM +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: >> dcut can upload .commands files for the Debian FTP archive upload queue >> according its man page: how can I run them on my box ? > > I think they're managed by dak, which is not pac

8 port serial PCI card on squeeze

2013-04-24 Thread ML mail
Hello, I am trying to configure an 8 port serial PCI card and managed to get the 3 first ports working but the 5 others do not work. The ouput of /proc/tty/drivers/serial is the following: 0: uart:TI16750 port:03F8 irq:4 tx:2608 rx:0 RTS|CTS|DTR|DSR 1: uart:16C950/954 mmio:0xA5001000 irq:19

Re: How do I list installed packages?

2013-04-24 Thread green
Mark Weyer wrote at 2013-04-23 16:12 -0500: > The title is imprecise. Actually, the question is: How do I list > installed packages except those automatically installed to satisfy > dependencies. In aptitude that would be packages marked as "i " but > not as "i A". And if there is no command to lis

Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?

2013-04-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 22:59 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 4/24/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Info: > > > > You're free to use Yahoo with a MUA. Take a look at the email address > > I'm using right now, it's Rocketmail, aka Yahoo, I'm only limited by the > > pain Evolution and Xfce4, IOW the GNO

Re: dcut: who does run the .commands files ?

2013-04-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 01:46:28PM +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > dcut can upload .commands files for the Debian FTP archive upload queue > according its man page: how can I run them on my box ? I think they're managed by dak, which is not packaged but available from

Re: Wheezy Sleezy Gnome

2013-04-24 Thread Andreas Rönnquist
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 07:56:33 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 19:08 -0700, cletusjenkins wrote: >> xfce looks the best of the bunch to me. > >Xfce4 has got to many GNOME dependencies. I'm using it since years, but >I don't like it, I just couldn't find a good DE until now. Thing

Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?

2013-04-24 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 4/24/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Info: > > You're free to use Yahoo with a MUA. Take a look at the email address > I'm using right now, it's Rocketmail, aka Yahoo, I'm only limited by the > pain Evolution and Xfce4, IOW the GNOME crap does cause. What are the pain points/ problems, with evolutio

Re: touch /var/lib/sudo/$USER / use sudo when unlocking xscreensaver (xfce)

2013-04-24 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 4/24/13, Wolfgang Karall wrote: > On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 11:22:23AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> I run sid XFCE, and have some keyboard shortcuts for >> docked-with-external-monitor, no-external-monitor (.screenlayout >> files) and corresponding networking configs. >> >> In rc.local, I put

dcut: who does run the .commands files ?

2013-04-24 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello List, dcut can upload .commands files for the Debian FTP archive upload queue according its man page: how can I run them on my box ? Thanks in advance, Jerome -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@l

Re: Don't do that!

2013-04-24 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Mer 24 avril 2013 9:42, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : > On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 09:10 +0200, "Morel Bérenger" wrote: > >> Just, I've added the noatime on /boot, since there is really no use to >> write time at each access. To speed up things. > > *lol* > > > I've got reasons to use noatime for partition

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-24 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 24 April 2013 12:13:07 Richard Owlett wrote: > I've the free version of 9.00. Listed option to disable > updating not available. I have never noticed my free version of 9 updating itself. :-/ Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-24 Thread Richard Owlett
Jochen Spieker wrote: Richard Owlett: Adobe Reader wants to update itself and I haven't found a way to disable it. If view pdf with it when I also happen be connected it just barges in and consumes my bandwidth. http://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/kb/disable-automatic-updates-acrobat-reader.html

Re: Why does my ssh session terminate immediately?

2013-04-24 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-04-24 05:03:53 +0200, Andreas Leha wrote: > Vincent Lefevre writes: > >> BTW, does "ssh -t localhost" work on both machines? > > I am not sure. On the 'client' it does. On the 'server' I get this: > , > | > ssh root@192.168.2.109 bash > | ssh -t localhost > | Pseudo-terminal will no

Re: touch /var/lib/sudo/$USER / use sudo when unlocking xscreensaver (xfce)

2013-04-24 Thread Wolfgang Karall
Hello, On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 11:22:23AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > I run sid XFCE, and have some keyboard shortcuts for > docked-with-external-monitor, no-external-monitor (.screenlayout > files) and corresponding networking configs. > > In rc.local, I put touch /var/lib/sudo/{my-usr} and

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-24 Thread Richard Owlett
Ralf Mardorf wrote: A little bit OT: On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 04:49 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Adobe Reader Why not using document viewer, aka Evince or something else? I'm not against proprietary software, drivers etc., but I'm using Linux for good reasons and I don't know why I should instal

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-24 Thread Richard Owlett
Chris Bannister wrote: On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 09:28:17AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I will be using email, Usenet, browser and occasionally file downloading. Nothing on my system should look/act like a server. I want all programs to access the internet after explicitly asking for permission.

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-24 Thread Jochen Spieker
Richard Owlett: > > Adobe Reader wants to update itself and I haven't found a way to > disable it. If view pdf with it when I also happen be connected it > just barges in and consumes my bandwidth. http://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/kb/disable-automatic-updates-acrobat-reader.html :) But I understa

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
A little bit OT: On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 04:49 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Adobe Reader Why not using document viewer, aka Evince or something else? I'm not against proprietary software, drivers etc., but I'm using Linux for good reasons and I don't know why I should install any software from Ad

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-24 Thread Richard Owlett
Jochen Spieker wrote: [snip] But I still don't completely understand your situation. You said you are on dialup and want to prevent unnecessary traffic. Can't you just disable auto-dialling? Which specific programs use the network without your consent? Auto dialing has been disabled for years

Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?

2013-04-24 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:37:13AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > > > From: Anthony Campbell > >  > > On 22 Apr 2013, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >> > > >> > It would be nice if you could trim that to one line. > >> > > >> >>> [snip] > >> > >> Yes, it would, but I use Yahoo mail for

Re: Don't do that!

2013-04-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 09:10 +0200, "Morel Bérenger" wrote: > Just, I've added the noatime on /boot, since there is really no use to > write time at each access. To speed up things. *lol* I've got reasons to use noatime for partitions, to speed up access, but it definitive won't speed up anything

Re: How do I list installed packages?

2013-04-24 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 24 Apr 2013, Lars Nooden wrote: > On 04/23/2013 09:12 PM, Mark Weyer wrote: > > > >The title is imprecise. Actually, the question is: How do I list installed > >packages except those automatically installed to satisfy dependencies. In > >aptitude that would be packages marked as "i " but not

Re: Why does my ssh session terminate immediately?

2013-04-24 Thread Jean-Marc
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 05:03:53 +0200, Andreas Leha wrote: Hi Andreas, Did you check your sshd config' ? You can do it running: sshd -t You can also make tests by running you sshd in debug mode. Just start it on another port to not disturb the main one: sshd -de -p 8022 and try a connection on thi

Re: a problem with CUPS

2013-04-24 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 23 Apr 2013, Paul Condon wrote: > I have a rather complicated CUPS printing setup, which works, > mostly, but not entirely: > > My printer is an old HP 5MP, laser printer, which I purchased before > HP invented the word "laserjet" because I was committed to Macintosh > back then and the HP 5MP

Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?

2013-04-24 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 23 Apr 2013, Patrick Bartek wrote: [snip] > > Another problem is that your posts are peppered with lots of codes which > > make them annoying to read on a text-based email reader like mutt. > > > Sorry 'bout that, but there's nothing much I can do about it from my end:   > It's Yahoo Mail t

Re: Don't do that!

2013-04-24 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Mar 23 avril 2013 19:00, Kelly Clowers a écrit : > On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Hans-J. Ullrich > wrote: > >> Today I learnt this: Do NOT use ext4 for the /boot partition, where >> your kernel resides. >> >> I did this on my EEEPC to speed up boot, and today I got at boot the >> error messa

Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?

2013-04-24 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 23 Apr 2013, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 07:57:11AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > On 22 Apr 2013, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > > > > > It would be nice if you could trim that to one line. > > > > > > > >>> [snip] > > > > > > Yes, it would, but I use Yahoo mail for t