On Monday 25 November 2013 09:46 PM, Atle Solbakken wrote:
> Den 25. nov. 2013 16:23, skrev Roman Gelfand:
>> I had recently a power outage on debian squeeze. Even though it
>> appears to working, it stalls at times and very slow. Is there a
>> recommended troubleshooting steps and/or maintenance
On 27/11/13 17:46, John Magolske wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm finding I can't install any packages with `aptitude dist-upgrade`
> `aptitude install ...` etc, keep getting this:
>
> % sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
> [...]
> E: APT_HOOK_INFO_FD is not correctly defined.
> E: Sub-process /usr/sbin/apt-
Hi,
I'm finding I can't install any packages with `aptitude dist-upgrade`
`aptitude install ...` etc, keep getting this:
% sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[...]
E: APT_HOOK_INFO_FD is not correctly defined.
E: Sub-process /usr/sbin/apt-listbugs apt || exit 10 returned an error code
(10)
E:
Frank Miles wrote:
> This is insane. I have a new system with an Asus H87M-Pro MB, an intel
> i4770t. Fresh install of wheezy. Things seemed mostly functional... but if I
> switched out of X to a terminal (Alt-Ctrl-Fn) the system would crash. In
> addition, shutdown would only start, then it wou
On 11/27/13, Doug wrote:
> On 11/26/2013 03:22 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>> On 11/27/13, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>>> On Sunday 24 November 2013 19:20:47 Doug wrote:
On 11/24/2013 12:34 PM, AP wrote:
>>> [snip]
> (i) Which Distribution:
>>> [snip]
> (ii) DEB vs RPM
>>> [snip]
The
On 27/11/13 13:49, David L. Craig wrote:
> On 13Nov26:1545-0500, David L. Craig wrote:
>
>> On 13Nov26:1437-0500, Mark Haase wrote:
>>
>>> Therefore, a Linux distribution has 2 choices: (1) wait for upstream
>>> patches for bugs/vulnerabilities as they are found, or (2) recompile all
>>> packages
On 27/11/13 12:45, Jonathan Fortin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The latest stable release of Debian contains PostgreSQL 9.1. But, on the
> PostgreSQL web-site the version 9.3 is available for Debian.
>
> So, I would like to know if is a good practice or not to install a new
> version which doesn't come fro
On 13Nov26:1545-0500, David L. Craig wrote:
> On 13Nov26:1437-0500, Mark Haase wrote:
>
> > Therefore, a Linux distribution has 2 choices: (1) wait for upstream
> > patches for bugs/vulnerabilities as they are found, or (2) recompile all
> > packages with optimizations disabled. I don't think pro
Jonathan Fortin writes:
> So, I would like to know if is a good practice or not to install a new
> version which doesn't come from the release.
It is always best to stick to the official Debian package when possible.
Upstream debs are sometimes not very high quality. 9.3 is now in
Unstable: is th
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 08:45:27PM -0500, Jonathan Fortin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The latest stable release of Debian contains PostgreSQL 9.1. But, on the
> PostgreSQL web-site the version 9.3 is available for Debian.
>
> So, I would like to know if is a good practice or not to install a new
> versi
Hi,
The latest stable release of Debian contains PostgreSQL 9.1. But, on the
PostgreSQL web-site the version 9.3 is available for Debian.
So, I would like to know if is a good practice or not to install a new version
which doesn't come from the release.
Note: we want to keep the stability o
Doug writes:
> Stable means the producers of the distro believe that the bugs have
> been all removed.
Debian developers are not so foolish as to believe that all the bugs are
ever removed.
When a Debian version is released as "Stable" that means that it is not
going change except for backported
This is insane. I have a new system with an Asus H87M-Pro MB, an intel
i4770t. Fresh install of wheezy. Things seemed mostly functional... but if I
switched out of X to a terminal (Alt-Ctrl-Fn) the system would crash. In
addition, shutdown would only start, then it would crash (even if X was
nev
On 11/26/2013 11:23 AM, AP wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Catalin Soare
> wrote:> Hello there!
>
>> Then, come back to Debian. Unless you choose any testing or non-stable
>> variants, you will notice that it truly is stable and once setup, things
>> Just Work (TM).
>
> Stable in what
Steffen Dettmer a écrit :
>
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Pascal Hambourg
> wrote:
>
>> A "real" network interface has the (non-null) driver name in
>> its parent device and thus matches the rule, whereas a "virtual" VLAN
>> interface does not.
>
> Thank you for your explanation. I think
Nick Rudnick writes:
> how to build Debian source packages,
> e.g. nvidia-graphics-drivers_331.20-1.debian.tar.gz (
> http://packages.debian.org/source/experimental/nvidia-graphics-drivers)??
> It seems different to common DEB as well as tarballs with configure/make.
Others may be able to give y
Hi Nick,
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Nick Rudnick wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> how to build Debian source packages, e.g.
> nvidia-graphics-drivers_331.20-1.debian.tar.gz
> (http://packages.debian.org/source/experimental/nvidia-graphics-drivers)??
> It seems different to common DEB as well as tarba
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:
>
> AFAIK adduser is Debian specific and useradd came from other distros.
> AFAIK Debian supports useradd as a nod to those other distros. And
> because IIRC the LSB requires it.
Debian is the upstream of both useradd and adduser.
adduser is a
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Reco wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 12:00:32PM +, Tom H wrote:
>>
>> I'm not an adduser user so that's why I checked the manpage for "-d".
>>
>> If your assumption that useradd short options should be understood
>> adduser, isn't this a bug?
>
> I don't know.
* Bob Proulx:
> In those systems the zero page is initially bit-zero and reading from
> the zero point will return zero values from the contents there. If
> the program writes to the zero page then subsequent reads will return
> whatever was written there. This is bad behavior that was the defau
Dear all,
how to build Debian source packages,
e.g. nvidia-graphics-drivers_331.20-1.debian.tar.gz (
http://packages.debian.org/source/experimental/nvidia-graphics-drivers)??
It seems different to common DEB as well as tarballs with configure/make.
Even a search term would help, as trying with Go
On 11/26/2013 03:22 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> On 11/27/13, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>> On Sunday 24 November 2013 19:20:47 Doug wrote:
>>> On 11/24/2013 12:34 PM, AP wrote:
>> [snip]
(i) Which Distribution:
>> [snip]
(ii) DEB vs RPM
>>>
>> [snip]
>>> The other differentiator is the package m
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 09:33:54PM +0530, AP wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:05 AM, Andrew Wood
> wrote:
>
> > After many years of using Linux on servers and my primary desktop I would
> > only recommend Debian. Its solid and reliable, other distros ive found to
> > be very buggy their inst
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 09:40:22PM +0530, AP wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:50 AM, Doug wrote:
>
> > You are going to get a lot of opinions here, and as a result you may be
> > just as confused as you are now!
>
> Yes, but I guess reading the great experiences would just create a
> broader
On 13Nov26:1437-0500, Mark Haase wrote:
> Therefore, a Linux distribution has 2 choices: (1) wait for upstream
> patches for bugs/vulnerabilities as they are found, or (2) recompile all
> packages with optimizations disabled. I don't think proposal #2 would get
> very far...
Well, there's always
On 11/27/13, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Sunday 24 November 2013 19:20:47 Doug wrote:
>> On 11/24/2013 12:34 PM, AP wrote:
> [snip]
>> > (i) Which Distribution:
> [snip]
>> > (ii) DEB vs RPM
>>
> [snip]
>> The other differentiator is the package manager. I have a very
>> strong opinion here: the packag
Wow... that really is kind of testy. And... point taken.
Mark Haase wrote:
Miles, the GCC developers don't consider this to be a bug, and so I
doubt that any of it will be "fixed". For example, here is a "bug"
cited in the paper:
http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30475
If you have
On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 21:53:00 +0530
AP wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Catalin Soare
> wrote:> Hello there!
>
> > Then, come back to Debian. Unless you choose any testing or
> > non-stable variants, you will notice that it truly is stable and
> > once setup, things Just Work (TM).
>
>
Miles, the GCC developers don't consider this to be a bug, and so I doubt
that any of it will be "fixed". For example, here is a "bug" cited in the
paper:
http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30475
If you have a moment, read through that thread. It gets pretty testy as the
developers argue
Reco wrote:
> Tom H wrote:
> > I'm not an adduser user so that's why I checked the manpage for "-d".
> >
> > If your assumption that useradd short options should be understood
> > adduser, isn't this a bug?
I don't think there is an expectation of cross compatibility of
options between those two
Reco wrote:
> Tom H wrote:
> > What does "-d" mean?
>
> Compatibility with useradd, which has '-d'. To my surprise manpage
> doesn't mention it.
Usually programs do not document options they don't want you to use.
This is a way of deprecating them without actually breaking scripts by
removing the
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> I don't know what your problems are. There aren't that many changes
> from PHP 5.2.x to 5.4.x. Well-written scripts should run pretty
> much unchanged. I've still got a lot of scripts written for PHP 5.1
> or before running on PHP 5.4.14.
I can't speak for the original po
Going back through the discussion on this thread, I'm taken by two main
reactions:
- discussion of the specific class of bugs/security holes
- a lot of comments that "this is an issue for upstream"
What I haven't seen, so I'll add it to the discussion, is that this
strikes me as an issue for "
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 03:10:07PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
In those systems the zero page is initially bit-zero and reading from
the zero point will return zero values from the contents there. If
the program writes to the zero page then subsequent reads will return
whatever was written there.
Lisi Reisz writes:
> Some of us are old enough for the command line to be more familiar.
> DOS anyone? ;-)
Actually I almost never used DOS, but used a Sys V /bin/sh through a
terminal configured like a true teletype, a pain.
I was lucky enough to get exposed to ksh and bash quite soon, a
On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 11:33:18 AM Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 November 2013 16:25:08 AP wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Lisi Reisz
>
> wrote:
> > > Much depends on whether you (AP) are ready to get your feet wet
> > > and use the CLI (command line interface). By all mea
On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 11:27:03 AM Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 November 2013 16:03:54 AP wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:05 AM, Andrew Wood
> >
> > wrote:
> > > After many years of using Linux on servers and my primary desktop
> > > I would only recommend Debian. Its solid and
On Mon, 25 Nov 2013, erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com wrote:
> Dear List -
> There is a problem with my Lenovo 8189-58U. It will not boot from
> the CDROM. According to Google, it is a problem with the older BIOS.
> I need to flash the BIOS, but I cannot boot from a USB stick.so...
> How do I us
On Tuesday 26 November 2013 16:25:08 AP wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Lisi Reisz
wrote:
> > Much depends on whether you (AP) are ready to get your feet wet
> > and use the CLI (command line interface). By all means stick to
> > the GUI (graphical user interface) for installing things
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> It is certainly worth installing, but what he means, I think, is that
> it will rarely, if ever, crash, be almost bug-free (nothing is
> totally bug-free in all possible situations), has good security
> updates and can be relied on. It Just Wo
On Tuesday 26 November 2013 16:03:54 AP wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:05 AM, Andrew Wood
>
> wrote:
> > After many years of using Linux on servers and my primary desktop
> > I would only recommend Debian. Its solid and reliable, other
> > distros ive found to be very buggy
[snip]
> >
> > M
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> Much depends on whether you (AP) are ready to get your feet wet and
> use the CLI (command line interface). By all means stick to the GUI
> (graphical user interface) for installing things if that is your
> preference.
Because I guess CLI is
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Catalin Soare
wrote:> Hello there!
> Then, come back to Debian. Unless you choose any testing or non-stable
> variants, you will notice that it truly is stable and once setup, things
> Just Work (TM).
Stable in what sense. Means we don't need to install anything
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> "_Like_ office works "etc."", so what's the "etc."? Multimedia? Distros
> have different policies regarding to used libraries, regarding to
> non-free codecs, regarding to follow or not to follow current stable
> releases from upstream. All t
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> Is it a 32-bit or 64-bit CPU? How old is it? Debian does compile for
> 32-bit architecture, for very old machines, so the 32-bit architecture
> might not be optimized to "modern" 32-bit CPUs. Some other distros
> ignore old hardware and compi
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> This are 2 of several formats that are handled by package managers. I
> prefer DEB over RPM, but what I like the most, is the package format
> used by Arch Linux.
> Yes, Linux is the kernel, but the word Linux usually is used for a
> complet
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Chris Bannister
wrote:
> You can use libreoffice. Just be aware that there can be formatting
> issues between the two systems. Using the .rtf type can be used instead,
> but there are plenty of "Save As ..." choices.
Oh definitely yes.
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On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:50 AM, Doug wrote:
> You are going to get a lot of opinions here, and as a result you may be
> just as confused as you are now!
Yes, but I guess reading the great experiences would just create a
broader picture in my mind. Though it is true that confusion could get
gen
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:05 AM, Andrew Wood
wrote:
> After many years of using Linux on servers and my primary desktop I would
> only recommend Debian. Its solid and reliable, other distros ive found to be
> very buggy their installers often refuse to install on machines that arent
> reasona
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 11:44 PM, Andrei POPESCU
wrote:
> In order to decide I would advise you try Live CDs.
Okay.
> The format itself (.deb and .rpm) is not very interesting to end users.
Okay, because end users are not interested in the tasks which are
related with developers, I believe.
>
Apologies for the later reply. I read and then reply.
Thanks to all the members.
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On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 12:00:32PM +, Tom H wrote:
> I'm not an adduser user so that's why I checked the manpage for "-d".
>
> If your assumption that useradd short options should be understood
> adduser, isn't this a bug?
I don't know. But the behaviour of adduser and useradd is consistent i
On Sunday 24 November 2013 19:20:47 Doug wrote:
> On 11/24/2013 12:34 PM, AP wrote:
[snip]
> > (i) Which Distribution:
[snip]
> > (ii) DEB vs RPM
>
[snip]
> The other differentiator is the package manager. I have a very
> strong opinion here: the package manager MUST display the available
> program
Hi.
After upgrading to Jessie, I am finding some problems:
1) Frozen screen
I cannot find a proper Xorg configuration for my laptop. When X is
closed, the screen freezes and gets full of blank stripes and stains.
There is no way to get to the console after X is started
(Ctr-Alt-F1...). [The symp
Check the desktop environment, e.g. gnome, kde, lxde, you use has upgraded
properly via synaptic, apt-get or aptitude, whichever you use.
rob
On 26 November 2013 12:59, Rob Owens wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 06:04:37PM +0600, Muntasim-Ul-Haque wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I just upgraded Debian Wh
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 06:04:37PM +0600, Muntasim-Ul-Haque wrote:
> Hi,
> I just upgraded Debian Wheezy to Testing/Jessey. The up-gradation
> process is done and now my Debian Testing is acting weird.
> Softwares/apps look like I'm running them using WINE. I mean, They
> are looking as if they're
On Nov 25, 2013 12:58 PM, "Ralf Mardorf" wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2013-11-25 at 23:32 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 11:04:27PM +0530, AP wrote:
> > > I want to use Linux in my daily works which are simple like office
> > > works (documentation) and web surfing because I
> > >
Hi,
sorry, unfortunately I missed your mail, thank you for your
response and sorry for the delay.
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Pascal Hambourg
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Steffen Dettmer a écrit :
>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Steffen Dettmer
>> wrote:
>>> I have persistent-net.rules in form
Hi,
I just upgraded Debian Wheezy to Testing/Jessey. The up-gradation
process is done and now my Debian Testing is acting weird.
Softwares/apps look like I'm running them using WINE. I mean, They are
looking as if they're Windows' software and I'm running them in Debian
using WINE. But in fact
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Reco wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 09:05:12AM +, Tom H wrote:
>>
>> What does "-d" mean?
>
> Compatibility with useradd, which has '-d'. To my surprise manpage
> doesn't mention it.
I'm not an adduser user so that's why I checked the manpage for "-d".
If
On 26/11/13 21:38, assm...@skygate.de wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> That mouse thing moves the cursor ;)
>>
>
> I am sorry...I am not really used to this kind of mailing list
> conversation
No worries.
>
>
>>>
How does "$ testparm -v" on the new box compare with the same from the
box that did
On Lu, 25 nov 13, 23:40:44, erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com wrote:
> Dear List -
> There is a problem with my Lenovo 8189-58U. It will not boot from
> the CDROM. According to Google, it is a problem with the older BIOS.
> I need to flash the BIOS, but I cannot boot from a USB stick.so...
> How d
On Lu, 25 nov 13, 16:39:24, praetorien wrote:
> Hello there,
>
> I'm a Windows user, but Microsoft may collect privacy information
> about users witch is not good, so I wonder does Debian 7.2 collect ANY
> information about Users or monitoring?
Aside from the already mentioned popcon (opt-in, d
Hi,
>
> This is why some (me) people dislike top posters and prefer to ignore
> them over posters who make the effort to interleave their replies. Not
> only does it require extra work to read the post and put it into context
> - it 'seems' to also encourages posters to *not* read what they are
>
On 25/11/13 12:10, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> On 25/11/13 10:13, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
>> Rick Thomas wrote:
>>> Can someone point me at step-by-step instructions for going from
>>> sudo aptitude install wordpress
>>> on a freshly scrubbed, newly installed Wheezy system to a working
>>> wordpress
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