On 2014-07-19 19:14 +0200, Slavko wrote:
> policykit-1 depends on libpam-systemd and libsystemd-login0.
>
> But here https://packages.debian.org/jessie/policykit-1 can see:
>
> [not kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386]
>
> Then it seems, that there is way to have policykit without systemd.
The alternat
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 21:58:13 -0400
The Wanderer wrote:
> when an X not compatible with the newest
> available fglrx-driver is available, 'apt-get dist-upgrade' still tries
> to remove fglrx-driver.
Then why don't you pin X?
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I keep getting (tried 3 times now) this sort of error from my chosen mirror:
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100% [15 Packages 9,119 kB/9,119 kB 100%]
Err ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au sid/main amd64 Packages
Get:17 ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au sid/main amd64 Packages [6,829 kB]
Err ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au sid/main amd64 Packag
On 7/20/14, Jochen Spieker wrote:
> Zenaan Harkness:
>> When I log in to my debian box using putty, I set in putty config a
>> width of 100 (rather than 80). This works.
>>
>> When I run GNU Screen, the putty console shrinks back to 80 width.
>>
>> Any idea why this might be?
>
> I had the same is
Zenaan Harkness:
>
> When I log in to my debian box using putty, I set in putty config a
> width of 100 (rather than 80). This works.
>
> When I run GNU Screen, the putty console shrinks back to 80 width.
>
> Any idea why this might be?
I had the same issue when I recently changed my TERM settin
When I log in to my debian box using putty, I set in putty config a
width of 100 (rather than 80). This works.
When I run GNU Screen, the putty console shrinks back to 80 width.
Any idea why this might be?
I've tried commenting out all lines in my .bashrc and .profile and
.screenrc, but problem
Bluetooth headsets are hands-free, wireless devices that you simply attach onto
your ear, Whether you are driving,walking down the street or around the home
trying to get chores done, holding the phone interrupts your movement and gives
you one less hand to work with.
This bluetooth devices pr
My main problems on Sid with systemd:
1 poweroff takes ages (several minutes), and sometimes fails completely,
this is very annoying
2 switching to a console takes 10 seconds until the prompt
3 my X-session is under Ctrl+Alt+F2 not F7
Booting is fast
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Is there a way to tell apt to calculate its dependency resolution so as
to avoid removing a particular package, without limiting that package to
a particular version?
Specifically, I'd like to pin fglrx-driver to "installed" (but not
necessarily to
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On 07/07/2014 03:48 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 06 iul 14, 11:15:14, The Wanderer wrote:
>>
>> (As far as I can tell, logind itself exists only as the binary
>> 'systemd-logind', which is packaged as part of the systemd package
>> rather tha
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On 07/19/2014 10:15 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Sb, 19 iul 14, 07:49:37, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> Which points out a large part of the problem, right there: most
>> Gnome programs do not themselves need to interact with systemd
>> itself (or any
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 03:45:27PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 18 Jul 2014 at 15:26:50 +0200, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>
> > /var/log/exim4/mainlog shows nothing I deem useful.
> > Lots of stuff like:
> > 2014-07-18 07:53:14 Start queue run: pid=13117
> > 2014-07-18 07:53:14 End queue run: pid=13117
>
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Erwan David wrote:
> Le 18/07/2014 18:44, Brian a écrit :
>>
>> I have no testing install to hand at the moment so perhaps you could
>> list these packages for us. Please indicate the ones for which there
>> is no "real need".
>
> Explain why systemd is needed for
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 8:00 AM, The Wanderer wrote:
>
> I suspect it may be the principle which I've been turning over in my
> mind lately, and which I think would be expressed as:
>
> "No functionality which anything not part of the init system might
> legitimately want to depend on should be im
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Andrei POPESCU
wrote:
> On Vi, 18 iul 14, 00:51:41, Gábor Hársfalvi wrote:
>>
>> I wouldn't update to Wheezy - because I waiting for Jessy.
>
> Unless you want to reinstall from scratch skipping a release is not
> supported.
This was discussed on debian-devel@. I
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 6:59 AM, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2014-07-19 00:22 +0200, Steve Litt wrote:
>>
>> And finally, note that the guy's email doesn't specifically recommend
>> systemd, and as a matter of fact seems to gravitate toward upstart,
>
> This is quite easily explained by the fact that
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 18:29:23 +0200 Sven Joachim wrote:
>> On 2014-07-18 17:21 +0200, Steve Litt wrote:
>>
>>> The other thing is, a lot of people thought the current init system
>>> was working just fine.
>>
>> They should read the mail[1] by o
On Sat 19 Jul 2014 at 17:43:12 +0200, Erwan David wrote:
> Le 18/07/2014 18:44, Brian a ??crit :
> > I have no testing install to hand at the moment so perhaps you could
> > list these packages for us. Please indicate the ones for which there
> > is no "real need".
>
> Explain why systemd is nee
Running jessie in vbox guest on win7
I seem to recall quite some time back getting some kind of
notifications on my desktop when I had pkgs needing updates.
It might have a year or two ago when I was running KDE and may have
been related to the kde desktop.
I've been running LXDE for a good wh
On Sat 19 Jul 2014 at 08:00:20 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 07/19/2014 07:28 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> > It seems to me like you're trolling, but I'll assume good faith and
> > reply anyway.
> >
> > On Vi, 18 iul 14, 18:22:49, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> >> And although his email doesn't talk
On Sat 19 Jul 2014 at 13:11:47 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> LOL, how do you do it Andrei? You've tried and failed to rebut me three
> times...
>
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 14:28:55 +0300
> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> > It seems to me like you're trolling, but I'll assume good faith and
> > reply anyway
songbird wrote on 07/19/2014 16:23:
> Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
>> Why not copy all files back and order something like "apt-get autoclean" to
>> get
>> rid of the older packages?
>
> it's a rather huge archive (i think about 18000
> debs), but yes that would be another way of doing
> it. i t
On Jo, 03 iul 14, 02:42:05, Bob Proulx wrote:
>
> I don't think user is valid for nfs mounts. The user flag is usually
> for local media. In any case it isn't in the list for nfs mount
> options. Also neither is auto. Same with _netdev. Personally I am
> only using "async" and nothing more th
Ahoj,
Dňa Sat, 19 Jul 2014 17:09:06 +0100 Brad Rogers
napísal:
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 17:43:12 +0200
> Erwan David wrote:
>
> Hello Erwan,
>
> >Explain why systemd is needed for hplip. Does this mean HP printer
> >will
>
> It isn't. That is to say, hplip does not depend on systemd
> directly
LOL, how do you do it Andrei? You've tried and failed to rebut me three
times...
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 14:28:55 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> It seems to me like you're trolling, but I'll assume good faith and
> reply anyway.
>
> On Vi, 18 iul 14, 18:22:49, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Fri, 18 Jul 2
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 18:01:17 +0100
Klaus wrote:
> On 18/07/14 15:37, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog
> > [ALC887-VD Analog] Subdevices: 1/1
>
>
> Have you searched the archives here, I seem to remember that the
> ALC887 didn't play with th
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 09:47:33 -0500
Richard Owlett wrote:
> On a regional Linux list I saw a reference to
> http://m.softpedia.com/turn-lubuntu-in-windows-xp-with-a-theme-and-no-one-will-notice-436255.html
>
> I'm now a Debian user but was a long time XP user. I'd prefer to
> only use Debian rep
Brad Rogers writes:
> ...packages hplip depends on may require systemd, IDK.
That's a bug, either in hplip or in said package.
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On 18/07/14 15:37, Steve Litt wrote:
> card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog
> [ALC887-VD Analog] Subdevices: 1/1
Have you searched the archives here, I seem to remember that the ALC887
didn't play with the stock 3.2 kernel in Wheezy?
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On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 17:43:12 +0200
Erwan David wrote:
Hello Erwan,
>Explain why systemd is needed for hplip. Does this mean HP printer will
It isn't. That is to say, hplip does not depend on systemd directly. I
didn't check recursively, so packages hplip depends on may require
systemd, IDK.
Le 18/07/2014 18:44, Brian a écrit :
> I have no testing install to hand at the moment so perhaps you could
> list these packages for us. Please indicate the ones for which there
> is no "real need".
Explain why systemd is needed for hplip. Does this mean HP printer will
stop working on freeBSD ?
On Sb, 19 iul 14, 09:47:33, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On a regional Linux list I saw a reference to
> http://m.softpedia.com/turn-lubuntu-in-windows-xp-with-a-theme-and-no-one-will-notice-436255.html
>
> I'm now a Debian user but was a long time XP user. I'd prefer to only use
> Debian repositories.
On Vi, 18 iul 14, 00:51:41, Gábor Hársfalvi wrote:
>
> I wouldn't update to Wheezy - because I waiting for Jessy.
Unless you want to reinstall from scratch skipping a release is not
supported.
Kind regards,
Andrei
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On a regional Linux list I saw a reference to
http://m.softpedia.com/turn-lubuntu-in-windows-xp-with-a-theme-and-no-one-will-notice-436255.html
I'm now a Debian user but was a long time XP user. I'd prefer to
only use Debian repositories. Does such as above exist? How would
I search?
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On Sb, 19 iul 14, 08:00:20, The Wanderer wrote:
>
> I suspect it may be the principle which I've been turning over in my
> mind lately, and which I think would be expressed as:
>
> "No functionality which anything not part of the init system might
> legitimately want to depend on should be implem
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>songbird wrote:
>> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>> >songbird wrote:
>> >> the other night i accidentally deleted the debs i
>> >> normally keep in the /var/cache/apt/archives directory
>> >=3D2E..=3D20
>> >> so here is round 1 of the script (which gets 90% of
>> >> the packages
On Sb, 19 iul 14, 07:49:37, The Wanderer wrote:
>
> Which points out a large part of the problem, right there: most Gnome
> programs do not themselves need to interact with systemd itself (or any
> component thereof), but due to the dependency chain passing through
> Gnome, installing one of those
Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
>songbird wrote:
>> the other night i accidentally deleted the debs i
>> normally keep in the /var/cache/apt/archives directory
>> and while i do keep a backup of them in another
>> directory it is along with all the previous versions
>> too, so it isn't as easy as just
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 09:43:27 -0400
John Bleichert wrote:
> Does this problem persist after a reboot or after restarting
> lightdm?
There was a network-mgr update yesterday that restored it;
although, hibernate have a strange behavior: it fully works
once but reboot the laptop on the second power
On 07/17/2014 03:56 PM, B wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 14:52:37 -0500
Nate Bargmann wrote:
logout dialog not having options for suspend and hibernate in it
The same here (sid, msi laptop).
Does this problem persist after a reboot or after restarting lightdm?
I see this once in a while
On Jo, 03 iul 14, 02:52:04, Bob Proulx wrote:
>
> That is the same as the Raspberry Pi. On the Pi they use a clever
> hack. At shutdown a file holds the timestamp of the time when the
> system shutdown. On boot the timestamp is used to set the current
> time for the system. That way the time d
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On 07/19/2014 07:28 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> It seems to me like you're trolling, but I'll assume good faith and
> reply anyway.
>
> On Vi, 18 iul 14, 18:22:49, Steve Litt wrote:
>> And although his email doesn't talk about user space *applicat
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On 07/19/2014 07:02 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Vi, 18 iul 14, 21:32:10, Tom Furie wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 05:44:37PM +0100, Brian wrote:
>>
>>> I have no testing install to hand at the moment so perhaps you
>>> could list these pac
On Sb, 19 iul 14, 12:59:46, Sven Joachim wrote:
> Now, why did Debian not switch
> to upstart back then? There are likely several reasons for this, and
> answering that question will be an interesting case study. The one
> thing that put *me* off from giving upstart a try is the conflict with
> s
It seems to me like you're trolling, but I'll assume good faith and
reply anyway.
On Vi, 18 iul 14, 18:22:49, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 18:29:23 +0200
> Sven Joachim wrote:
> >
> > They should read the mail[1] by one of its maintainers which states
> > that it was (and is) _not_ "
On Vi, 18 iul 14, 21:32:10, Tom Furie wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 05:44:37PM +0100, Brian wrote:
>
> > I have no testing install to hand at the moment so perhaps you could
> > list these packages for us. Please indicate the ones for which there is
> > no "real need".
>
> Here is a fairly nai
On 2014-07-19 00:22 +0200, Steve Litt wrote:
> And finally, note that the guy's email doesn't specifically recommend
> systemd, and as a matter of fact seems to gravitate toward upstart,
This is quite easily explained by the fact that his mail predates the
first systemd release by seven months.
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jul 2014, Kynn Jones wrote:
> > The documentation in `man 4 random` (**Configuration** section) gives a
> > couple of shell-script snippets that it recommends should be added,
> > respectively, "to an appropriate scr
songbird wrote on 07/18/2014 06:02:
> the other night i accidentally deleted the debs i
> normally keep in the /var/cache/apt/archives directory
> and while i do keep a backup of them in another
> directory it is along with all the previous versions
> too, so it isn't as easy as just copying them
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