Re: Query about .xsession-errors file

2014-09-09 Thread Bret Busby
On 10/09/2014, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:36:42AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >> Before seeing the above message, after someone previously saying that >> deleting the file would not cause any (extra) problems, but would not >> free up disc space, I deleted the file, then ran

Re: Brainydeal Receipt Printer - SOLVED

2014-09-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
Sorry, Ethan. Repostingto list. On Wednesday 10 September 2014 04:22:09 Ethan Rosenberg wrote: > FYI I tried to set the orientation from the printer setup. It's not part of the printer set-up. The printer should be able to do both. It is part of the application set-up. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: How does exec work with systemd?

2014-09-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 09:19:19PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > For years, I've been using exec to replace a shellscript with a binary > executable. Something like this: ... > Is that behavior going to change with systemd? No. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with

Re: Brainydeal Receipt Printer - SOLVED

2014-09-09 Thread Ethan Rosenberg
On 09/09/2014 06:38 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 09:23:02AM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote: On 09/09/2014 02:47 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 07:46:28PM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote: The printing is along the length of the paper, as opposed to perp

How does exec work with systemd?

2014-09-09 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, For years, I've been using exec to replace a shellscript with a binary executable. Something like this: #!/bin/bash #set up all sorts of stuff #store my current PID exec /usr/bin/mplayer In the preceding example, if the shellscript had PID 12345, after the exec PID 12345 refers to the ex

Re: git: how to figure out with a script what the last commit on remote repo is without fetching it

2014-09-09 Thread Rusi Mody
On Monday, September 8, 2014 8:50:02 PM UTC+5:30, lee wrote: > Rusi Mody writes: > > On Monday, September 8, 2014 4:20:02 PM UTC+5:30, lee wrote: > >> Jonathan Dowland writes: > >> > On Sat, Sep 06, 2014 at 12:04:44AM +0200, lee wrote: > >> >> how would I figure out what the last commit to a remot

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-09 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:51:35 +0200 B wrote: > On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:30:40 +0800 > Bret Busby wrote: > > > Alright, then; it is doing token swapping - with 99% of 16GB memory > > usage, and, swapping only 4% of (about) 40GB swap capacity, you > > can't seriously tell me that the swapping is

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-09 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 02:21:14 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > " > :~$ vmstat -S M > procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- > cpu r b swpd free buff cache si sobibo > in cs us sy id wa 15 0 1725 88 85 134801 > 7112

Re: Query about .xsession-errors file

2014-09-09 Thread davidson
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 01:54:08AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: The file has (kind of) gone, now (it is no longer accessible, but, appears to still exist, in the ether of the unknown; still taking up disc space, whilst, in theory, non-existent), A file

Issues upgrading Wheezy --> Jessie (was ... Re: brasero requires gvfs)

2014-09-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 09:21:57PM +0200, lee wrote: > John Hasler writes: > > > It appears that there is a good chance that the "upgrade" to Systemd > > when upgrading to Jessie will not be automatic (or at least not silent). > > I would be majorly pissed if a distribution upgrade would force m

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-09 Thread Johann Klammer
On 09/09/2014 07:00 PM, Bret Busby wrote: Hello. It has occurred to me, with the problem with the xsession-errors file progressively consuming HDD space until it runs out, causing crashing, and the deflating of the file, using the '>' action, to ask whether a similar way exists, of freeing RAM t

Re: Brainydeal Receipt Printer

2014-09-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 09:23:02AM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote: > On 09/09/2014 02:47 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > >On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 07:46:28PM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote: > >>The printing is along the length of the paper, as opposed to perpendicular. > > > >Known as landscape and po

Re: Query about .xsession-errors file

2014-09-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:36:42AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > Before seeing the above message, after someone previously saying that > deleting the file would not cause any (extra) problems, but would not > free up disc space, I deleted the file, then ran "Empty Trash Can", > but, no disc space was

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 09 September 2014 19:46:56 B wrote: > On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:40:29 +0100 > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > "chacun à son goût" > > Unfortunately for you, I'm french native; so the real expression is: > "à chacun ses goûts"; which is commonly shorten in: "chacun ses goûts" > in a sentence. N

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 22:21:07 +0200 lee wrote: > To prevent an undesirable state of the system due to insufficient > memory, you can use (a large amount of) swap space on a slow medium > because that may give you a chance to do something before processes are > being killed. Re-read what Don has e

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-09 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 09 Sep 2014, lee wrote: > Why would 40GB be too much? It's probably too much, unless you have processes which allocate lots of memory and then use it very infrequently or you have incredibly fast disks. > I have 8/64 so I can use swapping to slow down the downfall of the > system. The sy

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-09 Thread lee
B writes: > On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:30:40 +0800 > Bret Busby wrote: > >> Alright, then; it is doing token swapping - with 99% of 16GB memory >> usage, and, swapping only 4% of (about) 40GB swap capacity, you can't >> seriously tell me that the swapping is working as it should be. > > Anyway,

Re: brasero requires gvfs

2014-09-09 Thread lee
Martin Read writes: > On 08/09/14 22:46, lee wrote: > [proposed social-contract bug against general] >> That's the bug report we need to file, accompanied by a detailed list of >> the reasons. The most likely outcome would be that we are being banned. > > There is at least one member of the tech

Re: git: how to figure out with a script what the last commit on remote repo is without fetching it

2014-09-09 Thread lee
Jonathan Dowland writes: > On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 11:58:35PM +0200, lee wrote: >> One is using git:, the other one https:. > snip >> I don't have ssh access to any of the remote hosts. Both repos, I can >> only clone/fetch/merge from. > > OK. > >> But I don't want to fetch? If I can fetch only

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-09 Thread lee
Bret Busby writes: > On 10/09/2014, Martin Read wrote: >> On 09/09/14 19:42, B wrote: >>> Normally, if you _really_ reach the system RAM limit, init begins >>> killing the least used programs/daemons (well, this WAS true with >>> a good init, such as the sysV one…) >> >> First, the OOM Kille

Re: brasero requires gvfs

2014-09-09 Thread lee
John Hasler writes: > It appears that there is a good chance that the "upgrade" to Systemd > when upgrading to Jessie will not be automatic (or at least not silent). I would be majorly pissed if a distribution upgrade would force me to suddenly use systemd and not give me a choice. Besides, how

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:30:40 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > Alright, then; it is doing token swapping - with 99% of 16GB memory > usage, and, swapping only 4% of (about) 40GB swap capacity, you can't > seriously tell me that the swapping is working as it should be. Anyway, a swap of 40GB is too much

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-09 Thread Bret Busby
On 10/09/2014, B wrote: > On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 02:57:26 +0800 > Bret Busby wrote: > >> Yeah, but, whatever I tried, I could never get Debian 6 to swap. It >> would just run out of RAM and freeze. > > But you ARE swapping (from your 2nd post): > Swap: 428603401764372 41095968 > > if y

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-09 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-09-09 20:13 +0200, Bret Busby wrote: > :~$ free > total used free sharedbuffers cached > Mem: 16333856 16242704 91152 0 867841384384 > -/+ buffers/cache: 147715361562320 > Swap: 428603401764372 41095968 Tha

Re: Query about .xsession-errors file

2014-09-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 01:54:08AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > The file has (kind of) gone, now (it is no longer accessible, but, > appears to still exist, in the ether of the unknown; still taking up > disc space, whilst, in theory, non-existent), A file continues to use up disk space until all op

Re: brasero requires gvfs

2014-09-09 Thread lee
The Wanderer writes: > On 09/08/2014 at 05:46 PM, lee wrote: > >> Rob Owens writes: >> >>> I'm smart enough to understand that a desktop environment (or a >>> cd burner) depending on a particular init system doesn't make >>> sense. But I have not yet figured out which package to file a bug >>>

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 02:57:26 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > Yeah, but, whatever I tried, I could never get Debian 6 to swap. It > would just run out of RAM and freeze. But you ARE swapping (from your 2nd post): Swap: 428603401764372 41095968 if you weren't, the 2nd col. would be 0 and col1

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-09 Thread Bret Busby
On 10/09/2014, Martin Read wrote: > On 09/09/14 19:42, B wrote: >> Normally, if you _really_ reach the system RAM limit, init begins >> killing the least used programs/daemons (well, this WAS true with >> a good init, such as the sysV one…) > > First, the OOM Killer is part of the kernel, not

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-09 Thread Martin Read
On 09/09/14 19:42, B wrote: Normally, if you _really_ reach the system RAM limit, init begins killing the least used programs/daemons (well, this WAS true with a good init, such as the sysV one…) First, the OOM Killer is part of the kernel, not part of the init system. Second, it doesn't s

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:40:29 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > "chacun à son goût" Unfortunately for you, I'm french native; so the real expression is: "à chacun ses goûts"; which is commonly shorten in: "chacun ses goûts" in a sentence. There's also a variant: "chacun ses goûts, la merde a le sien" *<;

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 00:59:29 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > could run a command, and, RAM that is not currently in use by programs > that are running, is freed? No, as the 'unused' RAM is in fact used for system caches. But you can change the swapping threshold: http://linux.cloudibee.com/2007/11/li

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 09 September 2014 19:24:28 B wrote: > > Hey, I like KDE4 > > Chacon a son gout, as we might say in France :) > > No: 'chacun ses goûts'. If we are going to quibble about typing erriors, I would have said that it is: "chacun à son goût" Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-us

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 09 September 2014 19:14:10 Tony van der Hoff wrote: > Hey, I like KDE4 > Chacon a son gout, as we might say in France :) It's Linux. :-) FLOSS. Choice. It's great! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Co

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 19:14:10 +0100 Tony van der Hoff wrote: > Hey, I like KDE4 > Chacon a son gout, as we might say in France :) No: 'chacun ses goûts'. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.o

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Brian
On Tue 09 Sep 2014 at 13:53:08 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 16:50:23 +0200 > B wrote: > > > > I stopped with KDE when it came with the same look (and terrible > > "functionalities") as vi$ta ;-p) > > I stopped with KDE when Kmail2 came out and I finally realized that > most

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-09 Thread Bret Busby
On 10/09/2014, Steve Litt wrote: > On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 00:59:29 +0800 > Bret Busby wrote: > > >> At present, with 16GB of RAM, on this computer, and, "91% in use by >> programs" and "8% in use as cache" (even though, I set cache off, in >> each of the web browsers), it is a system riddled with bl

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-09 Thread Bret Busby
On 10/09/2014, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Wed, 10 Sep 2014, Bret Busby wrote: >> At present, with 16GB of RAM, on this computer, and, "91% in use by >> programs" and "8% in use as cache" (even though, I set cache off, in >> each of the web browsers), > > Cache has nothing to do with the browsers, a

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 09/09/14 18:03, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 09 September 2014 15:50:23 B wrote: >> On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:42:21 +0100 >> >> Lisi Reisz wrote: >>> last.) KDE 3.5 worked beautifully. Which is, of course, why it was >>> thrown away. ;-) >> >> I stopped with KDE when it came with the same l

Re: Brainydeal Receipt Printer

2014-09-09 Thread Brian
On Tue 09 Sep 2014 at 18:54:37 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 09 September 2014 18:28:33 Brian wrote: > > But let us not lose sight of the fact that the OP's > > problem has nothing to do with that and a solution has already been > > indicated by Chris Bannister. > > Unfortunately, it is a

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-09 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 00:59:29 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > At present, with 16GB of RAM, on this computer, and, "91% in use by > programs" and "8% in use as cache" (even though, I set cache off, in > each of the web browsers), it is a system riddled with bloatware, and, > like a cow with bloat, whe

Re: Forewarned is forearmed

2014-09-09 Thread Brian
On Tue 09 Sep 2014 at 10:28:09 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Hey guys, point of information, I wasn't bitching about lo not > starting, I was just trying to give a symptom/solution report so the > next guy who has this happen doesn't spend a half hour troubleshooting > it like I did the first time it

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 16:50:23 +0200 B wrote: > On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:42:21 +0100 > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > last.) KDE 3.5 worked beautifully. Which is, of course, why it was > > thrown away. ;-) > > I stopped with KDE when it came with the same look (and terrible > "functionalities") as vi

Re: Brainydeal Receipt Printer

2014-09-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 09 September 2014 18:28:33 Brian wrote: > But let us not lose sight of the fact that the OP's > problem has nothing to do with that and a solution has already been > indicated by Chris Bannister. Unfortunately, it is a solution which the OP, for whatever reason, either does not underst

Re: Query about .xsession-errors file

2014-09-09 Thread Bret Busby
On 10/09/2014, Brian wrote: > On Wed 10 Sep 2014 at 01:24:24 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > >> Just out of interest, "top" shows the system as having been up for 21 >> days, so, the xsession-errors file grew to 743MB, in 21 days. I saw, >> at the top of that file, before I deleted it, reference to 21

Re: Query about .xsession-errors file

2014-09-09 Thread Brian
On Wed 10 Sep 2014 at 01:24:24 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > Just out of interest, "top" shows the system as having been up for 21 > days, so, the xsession-errors file grew to 743MB, in 21 days. I saw, > at the top of that file, before I deleted it, reference to 21 August, > so, the file apparently,

Re: Brainydeal Receipt Printer

2014-09-09 Thread Brian
On Tue 09 Sep 2014 at 19:16:57 +0200, B wrote: > On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 18:12:12 +0100 > Brian wrote: > > > For a blank sheet of paper Plus90 or Minus90 don't matter. For a blank > > sheet of paper with a letterhead or hole-punches it is significant. > > Shall we assume that the regular rotatio

Re: Query about .xsession-errors file

2014-09-09 Thread Bret Busby
On 10/09/2014, Bret Busby wrote: > On 09/09/2014, Chris Bannister wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 03:29:04PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >>> Hello. >>> >>> I am concerned that, should I simply delete the file, the system will >>> crash or otherwise damage to the boot session, would occur. >> >> I

Re: brasero requires gvfs

2014-09-09 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Mon, 08 Sep 2014 23:31:25 +0100 Martin Read napísal: > Part of the underlying problem is that systemd-logind >= 205, > delivered in Debian as part of the systemd binary package, relies on > calls to a dbus interface of systemd in order to perform operations > that systemd-logind < 204

Re: Canon PIXMA mg5420 or HP Photo Smart 7520

2014-09-09 Thread Floris
Op Tue, 09 Sep 2014 01:06:26 +0200 schreef ken : In need of a new printer, having done a bit or research, and considering either the Canon PIXMA mg5420 or the HP Photo Smart 7520. There are Linux drivers for the Photosmart which are supposed to handle both the printer and the scanner. But

Re: Brainydeal Receipt Printer

2014-09-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 18:12:12 +0100 Brian wrote: > For a blank sheet of paper Plus90 or Minus90 don't matter. For a blank > sheet of paper with a letterhead or hole-punches it is significant. Shall we assume that the regular rotation is used? (that is: Plus = counterclockwise). -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: brasero requires gvfs

2014-09-09 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Tue, 09 Sep 2014 08:35:48 -0500 John Hasler napísal: > After reading some (extensive and very heated) discussions on > debian-devel I've changed my mind. File the bugs directly against > Systemd whenever justifiable. Please, can you point me? Or provide (really very) short descripti

Re: Brainydeal Receipt Printer

2014-09-09 Thread Brian
On Tue 09 Sep 2014 at 17:55:26 +0200, B wrote: > On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 17:44:34 +0200 > Thierry Chatelet wrote: > > > In PPD there is: > > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90 > > > > Could that be it? > > Nope, I've the same in the PPD of my HP2100. It provides a hint about which way the page sh

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-09 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014, Bret Busby wrote: > At present, with 16GB of RAM, on this computer, and, "91% in use by > programs" and "8% in use as cache" (even though, I set cache off, in > each of the web browsers), Cache has nothing to do with the browsers, and everything to do with the kernel. The out

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 09 September 2014 15:50:23 B wrote: > On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:42:21 +0100 > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > last.) KDE 3.5 worked beautifully. Which is, of course, why it was > > thrown away. ;-) > > I stopped with KDE when it came with the same look (and terrible > "functionalities") as vi

Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-09 Thread Bret Busby
Hello. It has occurred to me, with the problem with the xsession-errors file progressively consuming HDD space until it runs out, causing crashing, and the deflating of the file, using the '>' action, to ask whether a similar way exists, of freeing RAM that has been hijacked - RAM that is also pro

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Andre N Batista
On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 03:50:45PM +0100, Martin Read wrote: > On 09/09/14 15:31, Steve Litt wrote: > >It's kind of funny. All email clients suck, and yet there are tens of > >excellent window manager/desktop environments. > > All software sucks (except defective device drivers for vacuum pump > s

Re: Query about .xsession-errors file

2014-09-09 Thread Bret Busby
On 09/09/2014, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 03:29:04PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >> Hello. >> >> I am concerned that, should I simply delete the file, the system will >> crash or otherwise damage to the boot session, would occur. > > I very much doubt that any such damage would

Re: Brainydeal Receipt Printer

2014-09-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 17:44:34 +0200 Thierry Chatelet wrote: > In PPD there is: > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90 > > Could that be it? Nope, I've the same in the PPD of my HP2100. Your PB might be related to a former order that switched to landscape (some printers save this in a non-volatile mem

Re: Brainydeal Receipt Printer

2014-09-09 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Tuesday 09 September 2014 16:03:06 Brian wrote: > On Tue 09 Sep 2014 at 09:23:02 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote: > > On 09/09/2014 02:47 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > > >On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 07:46:28PM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote: > > >>The printing is along the length of the paper, as opp

Re: Brainydeal Receipt Printer

2014-09-09 Thread Brian
On Tue 09 Sep 2014 at 09:23:02 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote: > On 09/09/2014 02:47 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > >On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 07:46:28PM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote: > >>The printing is along the length of the paper, as opposed to perpendicular. > > > >Known as landscape and portr

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Martin Read
On 09/09/14 15:31, Steve Litt wrote: It's kind of funny. All email clients suck, and yet there are tens of excellent window manager/desktop environments. All software sucks (except defective device drivers for vacuum pump systems). The only question is whether the nature of the suckage is a p

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:42:21 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > last.) KDE 3.5 worked beautifully. Which is, of course, why it was > thrown away. ;-) I stopped with KDE when it came with the same look (and terrible "functionalities") as vi$ta ;-p) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:42:21 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 09 September 2014 15:31:14 Steve Litt wrote: > > Don't forget LXDE and OpenBox, they're great too. > > I must put in a plug for TDE. Comparatively lightweight. Really > easy to configure. And so partially sighted friendly (becau

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:42:51 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > TDE can and does. Good to know that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140909164828.57462263@

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 09 September 2014 15:40:12 B wrote: > Yeah, but AFAIK, they can't automatically re-open your last > session programs. >   TDE can and does. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.deb

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 09 September 2014 15:31:14 Steve Litt wrote: > Don't forget LXDE and OpenBox, they're great too. I must put in a plug for TDE. Comparatively lightweight. Really easy to configure. And so partially sighted friendly (because of the last.) KDE 3.5 worked beautifully. Which is, of co

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 10:31:14 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Don't forget LXDE and OpenBox, they're great too. If you really want to > get down and dirty, there's dwm and jwm. dwm is especially cool because > the way you change its configuration is to edit its source and > recompile. The only reason I'

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 13:24:51 +0200 B wrote: > On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 00:53:37 -0700 > Rick Thomas wrote: > > > And, I guess, that then begs the further question: I love to RTFM, > > but what FM should I read for questions like these? Is there a FM > > for configuring Gnome? > > Gnome is evil,

Re: Forewarned is forearmed

2014-09-09 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 09:38:32 +0100 Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 08/09/14 23:01, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > This isn't really a problem for me, but if I'm making a mistake that > > kills lo, chances are it's causing other side effects of which I'm > > not aware. > > > > > I'd blame systemd :/ P

Re: brasero requires gvfs

2014-09-09 Thread John Hasler
lee writes: > It would seem kinda logical to file the bug against the cd-burning > software because it depends on an init system. > > However, this is probably a more general issue in that a yet > unknown amount of packages suddenly somehow depends on a particular > init system. So it would seem

Re: Brainydeal Receipt Printer

2014-09-09 Thread Ethan Rosenberg
On 09/09/2014 02:47 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 07:46:28PM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote: The printing is along the length of the paper, as opposed to perpendicular. Known as landscape and portrait respectively. How do I change it? Depends on the application you

Re: regenerate InRelease file (Solved)

2014-09-09 Thread Abdelkader Belahcene
On 9/8/14, Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: > Hi all, > I used apt-mirror to create my own local mirror? that 's fine. > > The problem now the date in Inrelease is expired, and I can't use > it , until I changed the date, > > I did it directly in the file !!! unfortunately the signature is not

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 00:53:37 -0700 Rick Thomas wrote: > And, I guess, that then begs the further question: I love to RTFM, but > what FM should I read for questions like these? Is there a FM for > configuring Gnome? Gnome is evil, baaad FGnome, change gnome (use XFCE, you won't regret it;) --

Re: Query about .xsession-errors file

2014-09-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 03:29:04PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > I am concerned that, should I simply delete the file, the system will > crash or otherwise damage to the boot session, would occur. I very much doubt that any such damage would occur by deleting it, but the following incanta

Re: Restricted wifi after routine jessie upgrade

2014-09-09 Thread Brian
On Tue 09 Sep 2014 at 03:02:24 +0200, B wrote: > On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 00:28:41 + (UTC) > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > Well, wifi-radar is available as a Debian package (though I can't find > > a wifi-supplicant package), and I found the wifi-radar wiki, so I > > suppose I can try that when I'

Re: git: how to figure out with a script what the last commit on remote repo is without fetching it

2014-09-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 09:51:12AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > To persue this further, I'd suggest reading up on the git:// wire protocol > (quite possibly there's a command other than 'git-upload-pack' which would > give you what you want) P.S.: this is a pretty nice description of the wire

Re: git: how to figure out with a script what the last commit on remote repo is without fetching it

2014-09-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 11:58:35PM +0200, lee wrote: > One is using git:, the other one https:. snip > I don't have ssh access to any of the remote hosts. Both repos, I can > only clone/fetch/merge from. OK. > But I don't want to fetch? If I can fetch only the data (a minimal > amount of data)

Re: Forewarned is forearmed

2014-09-09 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 08/09/14 23:01, Steve Litt wrote: > > This isn't really a problem for me, but if I'm making a mistake that > kills lo, chances are it's causing other side effects of which I'm not > aware. > > I'd blame systemd :/ -- Tony van der Hoff| mailto:t...@vanderhoff.org Buckinghamshire, Engl

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 8, 2014, at 7:22 PM, B wrote: > On Mon, 08 Sep 2014 18:42:27 -0700 > Rick Thomas wrote: > >> rbthomas@debian:/usr/bin$ gnome-terminal >> Error constructing proxy for >> org.gnome.Terminal:/org/gnome/Terminal/Factory0: Error calling >> StartServiceByName for org.gnome.Termi

Re: Query about .xsession-errors file

2014-09-09 Thread Raffaele Morelli
On 09/09/14 at 03:29pm, Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > In trying to work out why my disk space gets progressively consumed so > that I repeatedly run out of disc space without any known reason, in > examining my hidden files in my home directory, I found the file > .xsession-errors, which is curre

Re: Query about .xsession-errors file

2014-09-09 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 03:29:04PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > Does some uttility or command (with switches) exist, that can purge > the file of redundant (for example, entries over a week old, or, > entries from before the current boot session) entries, so as to reduce > the file size to cont

Re: Restricted wifi after routine jessie upgrade

2014-09-09 Thread Joe
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 03:02:24 +0200 B wrote: > > Before anything, make: apt-get install apt-listbugs and read carefully > what it is saying before answering Yes to an upgrade. > > I don't believe NM has had any problems in sid recently. I'm reasonably sure that one of my sid installations w

Query about .xsession-errors file

2014-09-09 Thread Bret Busby
Hello. In trying to work out why my disk space gets progressively consumed so that I repeatedly run out of disc space without any known reason, in examining my hidden files in my home directory, I found the file .xsession-errors, which is currently sitting at about 740MB, and has been growing in t