On Sun, 2014-11-02 at 14:17 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> Succinct!
>
> man pam_umask?
That is not a solution to the original question I asked, unless you
alias it to man umask. You don't _type_ pam_umask.
Carl
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On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Andrei POPESCU
wrote:
> I think this should do it
>
> aptitude search '?narrow(?installed,?archive(oldstable))'
>
Thanks. This is useful and solves my first question.
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Marty wrote:
On 11/01/2014 10:00 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 02/11/14 12:19, Frank McCormick wrote:
On 11/01/2014 08:58 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
For the purpose of education not to fan silly semantic pedantics.
On 02/11/14 05:24, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Second, we're not talking about vag
On 02/11/14 13:27, John Hasler wrote:
> An addition to the "See Also" section of the umask man page would
> suffice.
>
Succinct!
man pam_umask?
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On 02/11/14 13:18, Carl Fink wrote:
> When I wanted the options for umask, I typed 'man umask' and got the man
> page for it as a C header diretive? (I'm not a C programmer, but it seemed
> to be for C header files and came from section 2.)
>
> This is darn confusing for a new user.
Agreed (also
On 02/11/14 13:14, Frank McCormick wrote:
> On 11/01/2014 10:00 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 02/11/14 12:19, Frank McCormick wrote:
>>> On 11/01/2014 08:58 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
For the purpose of education not to fan silly semantic pedantics.
On 02/11/14 05:24, Miles Fid
On 11/01/2014 at 10:18 PM, Carl Fink wrote:
> When I wanted the options for umask, I typed 'man umask' and got the
> man page for it as a C header diretive? (I'm not a C programmer, but
> it seemed to be for C header files and came from section 2.)
>
> This is darn confusing for a new user. I hav
Dear Carl Fink,
my unpleasant experience so far is that our package maintainers are keener
on keeping their bug closing rate appear very fast in the statistical
competition than in understanding and catering to your visions of
user-friendlines. Unless you mind disappointments try that path also. Y
On 02/11/14 13:12, Marty wrote:
> On 11/01/2014 10:00 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 02/11/14 12:19, Frank McCormick wrote:
>>> On 11/01/2014 08:58 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
For the purpose of education not to fan silly semantic
pedantics.
On 02/11/14 05:24, Miles Fidelm
On 11/01/2014 at 10:20 PM, lee wrote:
> Steve McIntyre writes:
>
>> Miles Fidelman wrote:
>>> Right. This sounds more and more like "we're going to rewrite
>>> the rules, and if you don't like it, we're taking our ball and
>>> going home."
>>
>> Various people have tried to explain how a bina
On Sat, Nov 01, 2014 at 09:27:39PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> An addition to the "See Also" section of the umask man page would
> suffice.
It isn't a general solution, though. Commands like fg just don't have man
pages. The symlink idea actually served to help (and educate) the new user.
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Steve McIntyre writes:
> Miles Fidelman wrote:
>>Martin Read wrote:
>>
>>Right. This sounds more and more like "we're going to rewrite the
>>rules, and if you don't like it, we're taking our ball and going home."
>
> Various people have tried to explain how a binary distribution like
> Debian w
An addition to the "See Also" section of the umask man page would
suffice.
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When I wanted the options for umask, I typed 'man umask' and got the man
page for it as a C header diretive? (I'm not a C programmer, but it seemed
to be for C header files and came from section 2.)
This is darn confusing for a new user. I have been around long enough
(slink) that I quickly realiz
On 11/01/2014 10:00 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 02/11/14 12:19, Frank McCormick wrote:
On 11/01/2014 08:58 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
For the purpose of education not to fan silly semantic pedantics.
On 02/11/14 05:24, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Second, we're not talking about vaguely "unixy" -
On 11/01/2014 10:00 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 02/11/14 12:19, Frank McCormick wrote:
On 11/01/2014 08:58 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
For the purpose of education not to fan silly semantic pedantics.
On 02/11/14 05:24, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Second, we're not talking about vaguely "unixy" -
On 02/11/14 12:19, Frank McCormick wrote:
> On 11/01/2014 08:58 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> For the purpose of education not to fan silly semantic pedantics.
>>
>>
>> On 02/11/14 05:24, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Second, we're not talking about vaguely "unixy" - we're talking
about a
Guys,
I'm thinking here about the future of `udev` and alt-init systems
(systemd-sysv | sysvinit-core | upstart)...
Apparently, `udev` will stop working without systemd = PID1 (am I
right?), so, to keep Debian working with `sysvinit-core` and others
(probably, I think), we'll need a new `udev`. L
On 31/10/14 11:47, Gary Roach wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Problem: I am working on an archiving project and wish to archive
> documents to searchable pdf files but can't seem to figure out how to
> proof read and correct the text overlay. Any suggestions.
I'm not sure what you mean by "text *overlay*"..
On 11/01/2014 08:58 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
For the purpose of education not to fan silly semantic pedantics.
On 02/11/14 05:24, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>
>Second, we're not talking about vaguely "unixy" - we're talking about a
>well developed philosophy of designing things that dates back to
For the purpose of education not to fan silly semantic pedantics.
On 02/11/14 05:24, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>
> Second, we're not talking about vaguely "unixy" - we're talking about a
> well developed philosophy of designing things that dates back to Ken
> Thompson, et. al (c.f., "The UNIX Progr
On 02/11/14 05:04, Diogene Laerce wrote:
> Hi,
>
> During the installation of some packages (iceweasel, open-ssl..), a
> disclaimer sometimes appears which one has to pass by using the
> key of the keyboard.
>
> The use of "apt-get install -y " does not seem to be useful
> to pass automatically
Le Sat, 01 Nov 2014 14:24:28 -0400,
Miles Fidelman a écrit :
> Laurent Bigonville wrote:
> > Le Sat, 01 Nov 2014 07:56:30 -0400,
> > Miles Fidelman a écrit :
> >
> >> Steve McIntyre wrote:
> >>> Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Martin Read wrote:
> > On 01/11/14 01:53, lee wrote:
> >> It doe
On 11/01/2014 at 10:22 AM, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 01:20:35PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
>
>> 2014/10/28 20:37 "Chris Bannister" :
>>> Now I know what the following joke means:
>>>
>>> "There is a man on his hands and knees searching around him. A
>>> man comes along and a
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Sb, 01 nov 14, 16:44:03, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
Do you mean the dbus daemon? No, the systemd developers have other
plans.
https://lwn.net/Articles/580194/
Over Linus' dead body?
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTgyNTQ
Mmm, can't
On Sb, 01 nov 14, 18:12:35, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
>
> Now, I want to retire the squeeze mirror. But before I do that I'd like to
> find all the packages installed on my machine from this mirror. Then I can
> decide whether I want to upgrade or delete or keep then as-is. Is there a
> way to fi
On 11/01/2014 at 05:24 PM, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote:
> Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis:
>
>> A quick search reveals the following.
>>
>> I've a software that use libuuid. Until now, the uuidd had the
>> ability to start on-demand the uuidd if the later, quotting "...
>> setuid to an unprivile
On Sb, 01 nov 14, 16:44:03, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >Do you mean the dbus daemon? No, the systemd developers have other
> >plans.
> >https://lwn.net/Articles/580194/
>
> Over Linus' dead body?
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTgyNTQ
Mmm, can't find any
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Proxy wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I just installed Jessie on one of my partitions. Most of the stuff works
> just fine, but I'm having problem playing HTML5 videos on Youtube in
> Iceweasel. I can't even watch webm videos from here:
> http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/debian-meet
On Saturday 01 November 2014 22:58:05 Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> * David Baron [2014-11-01 19:13 +0200]:
> > On Friday 31 October 2014 13:08:27 Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> [...]
>
> > > It's your decision. MODULES=most should be okay. BUSYBOX=y is
> > > essential.
> >
> > This is what the insta
* David Baron [2014-11-01 19:13 +0200]:
> On Friday 31 October 2014 13:08:27 Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
[...]
> > It's your decision. MODULES=most should be okay. BUSYBOX=y is
> > essential.
>
> This is what the install gave me. I have not touched it.
> Where do I tell it to mount /usr?
No ne
How do I find packages installed on my machine that belong to a specific
Debian release?
In my case, I have the following entries in my sources.list
rajulocal@hogwarts:~$ stuff.pl /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian
Hi all
I have a system in a cluster (experimental) and there are a lot of
debian machines which depend on this system and must be able to ssh into
this system
I wanted password-less authentication and looked on the internet.
Almost all the examples and help shown involves setting up
ssh_known_ho
Am 01.11.2014 22:17, schrieb Jonathan de Boyne Pollard:
> Christian Seiler:
>> Finally: Upstart also supports socket activation. It's not quite as
> > powerful as systemd's, but is has enough features for this use case.
> > I don't know the people developing util-linux, but I could imagine
> >
Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis:
A quick search reveals the following.
>
> I've a software that use libuuid. Until now, the uuidd had the
> ability to start on-demand the uuidd if the later, quotting "...
> setuid to an unprivileged user (e.g. uuidd:uuidd)".
>
> After that commit, i'm forced to use sy
Christian Seiler:
Finally: Upstart also supports socket activation. It's not quite as
> powerful as systemd's, but is has enough features for this use case.
> I don't know the people developing util-linux, but I could imagine
> them accepting a patch to also support Upstart-style socket
> activ
On 1 November 2014 18:12, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Sb, 01 nov 14, 17:21:29, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote:
>>
>> After a week of tests, I realized that `systemd-journal` is not ready
>> for prime time.
>>
>> A lot of times, it consumes 100% of CPU, making the system almost unusable.
>>
>> Debian Jessie
On 01/11/14 19:21, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote:
After a week of tests, I realized that `systemd-journal` is not ready
for prime time.
A lot of times, it consumes 100% of CPU, making the system almost unusable.
Debian Jessie should not activate `systemd-journal` by default (for
logging), even when wit
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Sb, 01 nov 14, 14:24:28, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Laurent Bigonville wrote:
Le Sat, 01 Nov 2014 07:56:30 -0400,
Miles Fidelman a écrit :
Yeah... the Unix way... which systemd and it's pieces violate in so
many ways.
Surprisingly 10th of different executables talking to
On Sb, 01 nov 14, 17:21:29, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote:
>
> After a week of tests, I realized that `systemd-journal` is not ready
> for prime time.
>
> A lot of times, it consumes 100% of CPU, making the system almost unusable.
>
> Debian Jessie should not activate `systemd-journal` by default (for
>
On Sb, 01 nov 14, 14:24:28, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Laurent Bigonville wrote:
> >Le Sat, 01 Nov 2014 07:56:30 -0400,
> >Miles Fidelman a écrit :
> >>>
> >>Yeah... the Unix way... which systemd and it's pieces violate in so
> >>many ways.
> >Surprisingly 10th of different executables talking to eac
On 22 October 2014 21:50, David L. Craig wrote:
> There is only one way the default init for Jessie can
> be changed at this point in time--the Release Team
> must conclude systemd will have turned out to be a
> release critical nightmare likely well into the feature
> freeze. There is only one w
On 10/31/2014 04:15 PM, Doug wrote:
On 10/31/2014 06:31 PM, Gary Roach wrote:
On 10/30/2014 05:47 PM, Gary Roach wrote:
Hi all,
This is part of a medium sized, low budget archiving project that
will process serveral thousand documents, all done by low tech
volunteers. So I really need metho
The Wanderer:
If the mount failing isn't that critical, then the "right way" to fix
> the problem under systemd's apparent design would probably be to add
> the "noauto" label to the fstab, so that the device will not mount
> automatically on boot.
Actually, that's just the widespread NON-syst
Charles Kroeger:
I think it's ludicrous that adding an SD card that even has its own
> line in /etc/fstab, throws the whole system into 'emergency' mode.
I see from other messages in this thread that I'm not the only person to
think it equally ludicrous to have a workflow that involves reboot
Laurent Bigonville wrote:
Le Sat, 01 Nov 2014 07:56:30 -0400,
Miles Fidelman a écrit :
Steve McIntyre wrote:
Miles Fidelman wrote:
Martin Read wrote:
On 01/11/14 01:53, lee wrote:
It doesn't need these code paths. The library doesn't do
anything unless you do have the software actually ru
Hi,
During the installation of some packages (iceweasel, open-ssl..), a
disclaimer
sometimes appears which one has to pass by using the key of the
keyboard.
The use of "apt-get install -y " does not seem to be useful to pass
automatically this. Does anyone know how to pass by this and prevent
in
On Friday 31 October 2014 13:08:27 Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> * David Baron [2014-10-31 10:22 +0200]:
> > On Thursday 30 October 2014 19:46:26 Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> [...]
>
> > > To mount /usr at boottime you need to boot with an initramfs.
> > >
> > > Therefor you need at least
> > >
>
On 01/11/14 17:58, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
Surprisingly 10th of different executables talking to each other using
a common IPC mechanism (dbus here) seems to be really "unixy" to me...
And what are these 10s of different executables talking about behind my
back? ;-)
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On Sat, 1 Nov 2014 17:52:11 +0100
Andreas Rönnquist wrote:
Hello Andreas,
>Has anyone else got this problem and perhaps a solution?
Probably of little consolation to you, but I have no issues with
Iceweasel 33, taken from experimental, on an otherwise testing system.
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Le Sat, 01 Nov 2014 07:56:30 -0400,
Miles Fidelman a écrit :
> Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > Miles Fidelman wrote:
> >> Martin Read wrote:
> >>> On 01/11/14 01:53, lee wrote:
> It doesn't need these code paths. The library doesn't do
> anything unless you do have the software actually runn
On 1 Nov 2014 15:30, Martin Read wrote:
>
> On 01/11/14 14:52, lee wrote:
> > what's the proposed Debian way to deal with a different location of the
> > 'perl' executable?
>
> #! /usr/bin/env perl
The trouble with this is perl -w doesn't work.
> ... but I thought that on Fedora, /bin was tu
Hi
On Debian stable, since the stable upgrade of Iceweasel to version 31,
I have had problems using soundcloud players, both on the actual
soundcloud pages, and elsewhere where the player is embedded.
The player is clearly visible, and the play button can be pressed, but
it doesn't do anything, t
On 01/11/14 14:52, lee wrote:
what's the proposed Debian way to deal with a different location of the
'perl' executable?
#! /usr/bin/env perl
Fedora has /bin/perl, Debian has /usr/bin/perl. Since I still have
Fedora on the desktop and Debian on the VMs, I need compatibility.
... but I thou
Hi,
what's the proposed Debian way to deal with a different location of the
'perl' executable?
Fedora has /bin/perl, Debian has /usr/bin/perl. Since I still have
Fedora on the desktop and Debian on the VMs, I need compatibility.
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On 11/01/2014 07:56 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Steve McIntyre wrote:
Miles Fidelman wrote:
Martin Read wrote:
On 01/11/14 01:53, lee wrote:
It doesn't need these code paths. The library doesn't do anything
unless you do have the software actually running which the library makes
useable --- at
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 11:14:14PM -0400, tjr0...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
Now I know why I use Android. :)
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On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 01:20:35PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> 2014/10/28 20:37 "Chris Bannister" :
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 08:07:50PM +0100, lee wrote:
> > >
> > > The point is that I was right and you were wrong. It wasn't right
> > > of you to so strongly urge people to "take issues upstr
On 11/01/2014 06:26 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Vi, 31 oct 14, 14:10:20, Charles Kroeger wrote:
I have a line in my /etc/fstab file:
#/dev/sde1/ /media/lumix-photos vfat users,rw,auto,iocharset=utf8,umask=000
0
Anytime I want to add photos off the SD card in my camera, I comment out
On 10/29/2014 01:38 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
I want to make things easier for people accepting remote desktop
invitations from Krfb.
Ideal scenario:-
1. Create a reverse ssh tunnel to "middle" (an internet accessible
server) from the "users" computer. e.g. port 1234 to port 1235
"middle" has p
lee wrote:
> Then the software shouldn't depend on a library it doesn't need.
You use programs every day that contain code paths to support features
that you never use. Sometimes those paths are entirely inside the
program itself. Sometimes some of them are in libraries. Sometimes
some of those
Steve McIntyre wrote:
Miles Fidelman wrote:
Martin Read wrote:
On 01/11/14 01:53, lee wrote:
It doesn't need these code paths. The library doesn't do anything
unless you do have the software actually running which the library makes
useable --- at least that's what was said.
Of course, not al
Miles Fidelman wrote:
>Martin Read wrote:
>> On 01/11/14 01:53, lee wrote:
>>> It doesn't need these code paths. The library doesn't do anything
>>> unless you do have the software actually running which the library makes
>>> useable --- at least that's what was said.
>>>
>>> Of course, not all ca
On 10/31/2014 at 09:53 PM, lee wrote:
> Don Armstrong writes:
>
>> On Fri, 31 Oct 2014, lee wrote:
>>> Then the software shouldn't depend on a library it doesn't need.
>>
>> It needs the code paths of the library in some cases, therefore it
>> links with the library, therefore the library must
Serge wrote:
>Steve McIntyre wrote:
>
>> As far as I know it *should* be working. What mirror are you using?
>
>Yes, always Just Worked⢠for me.
>
>First, jigdo tries my local one, recently updated from
>ftp.fi.debian.org, then snapshot.debian.org, then
>us.cdimage.debian.org. None of them has th
Martin Read wrote:
On 01/11/14 01:53, lee wrote:
It doesn't need these code paths. The library doesn't do anything
unless you do have the software actually running which the library makes
useable --- at least that's what was said.
Of course, not all cases are the same, yet in this case, the li
On Vi, 31 oct 14, 14:10:20, Charles Kroeger wrote:
> I have a line in my /etc/fstab file:
>
> #/dev/sde1/ /media/lumix-photos vfat users,rw,auto,iocharset=utf8,umask=000
> 0
>
> Anytime I want to add photos off the SD card in my camera, I comment out the
> hashmark
> add the SD card to
On 01/11/14 01:53, lee wrote:
It doesn't need these code paths. The library doesn't do anything
unless you do have the software actually running which the library makes
useable --- at least that's what was said.
Of course, not all cases are the same, yet in this case, the library
shouldn't be i
On Sb, 01 nov 14, 11:25:31, Joel Rees wrote:
>
> I take it there's a developer somewhere that has taken an active
> dislike to debian menus and is deliberately trying to make everyone
> hate them. (Especially considering the TC bug you mention above.)
...
> Be careful when you see conspiracy.
> L
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