On 20-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 08:48:17 +0200 Dejan Jocic
> wrote:
>
> >
> > If you have minimal install, why do you suspect that something is
> > wrong, rather to suppose that all is fine and that simply there was
> > no security updates for your install? It is stable
Jimmy Johnson composed on 2017-07-20 2:13 (UTC-0700):
> Felix Miata wrote:
> ...I wanted Jessie on sda1 where I keep my
> menu.lst and keep things simple.
"Simple" I find impossible in multiboot of any serious extent. Closest thing
there can be to simple is a master bootloader on a primary part
On 20.07.17 19:51, Pol Hallen wrote:
> From client I print (ie: a 300Kb of pdf), in log cups server I see that file
> size about 4/5Mb (why?), so the printer before print it I've to wait also 15
> minutes :-/
Is the file for the printer postscript? That is always bigger than the
pdf equivalent, ev
On 07/20/2017 02:46 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
You don't have to use the auto-generated grub.cfg. You can write and
maintain your own one manually.
You can! Good for you!
Cheers,
--
Jimmy Johnson
Debian Jessie - KDE 4.14.2 - Intel G3220 - EXT4 at sda1
Registered Linux User #380263
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 05:55:15 + (UTC) david...@freevolt.org wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jul 2017, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
> > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install
> > apps, etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I
> > find this unusual.
>
> And so, un
On 07/19/2017 11:33 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
Jimmy Johnson composed on 2017-07-19 02:30 (UTC-0700):
Some of you may already know that setting up grub-legacy on Debian can
be imposable, I've been thinking about this for awhile now and how to
solve this problem that Ubuntu does not have.
So I ad
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 08:48:17 +0200 Dejan Jocic
wrote:
> On 19-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:47:27 -0700 Jimmy Johnson
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 07/19/2017 01:35 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:14:28 +0200 Dejan Jocic
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> >
Joe Pfeiffer composed on 2017-07-20 15:38 (UTC-0600):
> David Wright wrote:
>> On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 14:57:50 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote:
>>> Did you miss that in Stretch apt is preferred to apt-get?
>> I did. Where does it say that?
> The closest thing to that statement I've encountered is i
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:41:33 -0700 Jimmy Johnson
wrote:
> On 07/19/2017 07:05 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:47:27 -0700 Jimmy Johnson
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 07/19/2017 01:35 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:14:28 +0200 Dejan Jocic
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
Pascal Hambourg composed on 2017-07-20 23:40 (UTC+0200):
> Felix Miata composed:
>> Grub Legacy requires no scripts or filesystem mounting to
>> setup, and its menu.lst is magnitudes easier than Grub2's grub.cfg to
>> manually
>> maintain.
> This is your opinion.
Grub2 setup can be run without
On 07/20/2017 03:16 PM, Dan Ritter wrote:
Similarly, it is currently Thu Sep 8724 1993
(Eternal September calendar, available as sdate).
Way back on September 4180, 1993, AOL ended Usenet access, the cause of
the Eternal September. I'm not sure if it's best to call the next day
October 1, 19
On Thursday 20 July 2017 13:51:19 Pol Hallen wrote:
> Hi all :-)
>
> can someone tell me how cups handles pdf files?
>
> I've cups on server and some clients connected to it
> (ipp://ip/printer)
>
> From client I print (ie: a 300Kb of pdf), in log cups server I see
> that file size about 4/5Mb (w
On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 19:57:57 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote:
> Pascal Hambourg composed on 2017-07-20 0:40 (UTC+0200):
>
> > Felix Miata composed:
>
> >> ...is not
> >> always adequate. 240/63, another very common configuration...
>
> > IME, 31 KiB is still enough to contain a core image when not
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 3:46 AM, Doug wrote:
>
> On 07/20/2017 06:32 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 19, 2017 09:27:16 PM Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>
>>> Doug is correct. Every shop had a subscription to SAM's and toward the
>>> end as many as 9 or 10, tall 4 drawer fileing cabi
> From: recovery...@gmail.com
> Hi.
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 20:18:04 +0200
> Frank wrote:
>> Op 20-07-17 om 18:58 schreef Fungi4All:
>> > Does it matter what we all think, even if agree or it matters what
>> > the manual of the package says. In my installation this is manual
>> > I found, it says ap
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 07:51:19PM +0200, Pol Hallen wrote:
> Hi all :-)
>
> can someone tell me how cups handles pdf files?
>
> I've cups on server and some clients connected to it (ipp://ip/printer)
>
> From client I print (ie: a 300Kb of pdf), in log cups server I see that file
> size about 4
Thanks, Guus, for your reply.
I just wanted to confirm that the workaround
up ip -6 route add default via fe80::1 dev $IFACE onlink
works flawless for me.
I will upgrade to Stretch with one of the next point releases.
Thanks again,
Rainer
Am Samstag, 15. Juli 2017, 21:30:27 CEST schrieb Guu
David Wright writes:
> On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 14:57:50 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote:
>> Patrick Bartek composed on 2017-07-19 10:29 (UTC-0700):
>>
>> > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install apps,
>> > etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I find
>>
Le 19/07/2017 à 22:20, Jimmy Johnson a écrit :
On 07/19/2017 11:04 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
Le 19/07/2017 à 11:30, Jimmy Johnson a écrit :
Some of you may already know that setting up grub-legacy on Debian
can be imposable,
Imposable ? What would impose it ?
Debian grub-legacy setup is no
Le 19/07/2017 à 20:33, Felix Miata a écrit :
Grub Legacy requires no scripts or filesystem mounting to
setup, and its menu.lst is magnitudes easier than Grub2's grub.cfg to manually
maintain.
This is your opinion. I beg to differ. Once you are used to it, manually
maintaining grub.cfg is rath
On 2017-07-21 07:29, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Le 20/07/2017 à 08:51, Curt a écrit :
>> On 2017-07-19, Curt wrote:
>>> On 2017-07-19, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
Le 19/07/2017 à 11:30, Jimmy Johnson a écrit :
> Some of you may already know that setting up grub-legacy on Debian can
> be imp
Le 20/07/2017 à 08:51, Curt a écrit :
On 2017-07-19, Curt wrote:
On 2017-07-19, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
Le 19/07/2017 à 11:30, Jimmy Johnson a écrit :
Some of you may already know that setting up grub-legacy on Debian can
be imposable,
Imposable ? What would impose it ?
I think he meant
Le 20/07/2017 à 01:57, Felix Miata a écrit :
Pascal Hambourg composed on 2017-07-20 0:40 (UTC+0200):
Felix Miata composed:
...is not
always adequate. 240/63, another very common configuration...
IME, 31 KiB is still enough to contain a core image when not needing
costly features such as b
Hi.
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 20:18:04 +0200
Frank wrote:
> Op 20-07-17 om 18:58 schreef Fungi4All:
> > Does it matter what we all think, even if agree or it matters what
> > the manual of the package says. In my installation this is manual
> > I found, it says apt all over the place, meanwhi
On Thu 20 Jul 2017 at 08:59:08 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 20 July 2017 07:32:04 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, July 19, 2017 09:27:16 PM Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Doug is correct. Every shop had a subscription to SAM's and toward
> > > the end as many as 9 or 10, tal
That's the revolutionary calendar.
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017, Doug wrote:
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 14:53:38
From: Doug
To: Stephen P. Molnar , debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: What is Installjammer? (OT reply)
Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 18:53:55 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.d
> On Wed 19/Jul/2017 23:14:35 +0200 Martin Read wrote:
>> On 19/07/17 12:17, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
>>> One my wonder why GRSecurity is not (optionally) included in Linux.
>>
>> For a variety of reasons relating to the personalities and opinions of the
>> people who would be involved - on both si
> Op 20-07-17 om 18:58 schreef Fungi4All:
>> Does it matter what we all think, even if agree or it matters what
>> the manual of the package says. In my installation this is manual
>> I found, it says apt all over the place, meanwhile there is apt-get
>> package to install. /usr/share/man/man8/apt-
On 07/20/2017 02:53 PM, Doug wrote:
On 07/20/2017 08:54 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
On 07/20/2017 09:14 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
Le duodi 2 thermidor, an CCXXV, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit :
/snip/
Is this French? I can understand July being called something that must
mean HOT,
but is this y
> Hello Doug,
>>Is this French?
> Quite likely.
>>but is this year 225? Dated from when?
> Given the above, I"d say it"s the French Republican (aka Revolutionary)
> Calendar.
Revolution was 1789 (13 years after americans revolted for the same reasons).
2017-1789=228
The revolution was under the sl
On 07/20/2017 02:03 PM, Frank wrote:
Op 20-07-17 om 20:53 schreef Doug:
On 07/20/2017 08:54 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
On 07/20/2017 09:14 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
Le duodi 2 thermidor, an CCXXV, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit :
/snip/
Is this French? I can understand July being called somet
Is anyone using Android Studio on stretch? Have you managed to run apps on an
Android Virtual Device (AVD)?
I've tried everything. The emulator seems to start, I get no errors, and the
emulated device appears on my screen (at least when using software
accelaration, otherwise it doesn't start at
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 09:07:54PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> Le duodi 2 thermidor, an CCXXV, Frank a écrit :
> > French revolution, most likely.
>
> Technically, "republican calandar", not "revolutionary calendar", but
> you got the right reference.
>
> Just a whim I had and implemented when
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 13:53:38 -0500
Doug wrote:
Hello Doug,
>Is this French?
Quite likely.
>but is this year 225? Dated from when?
Given the above, I'd say it's the French Republican (aka Revolutionary)
Calendar.
--
Regards _
/ ) "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)r
Le duodi 2 thermidor, an CCXXV, Frank a écrit :
> French revolution, most likely.
Technically, "republican calandar", not "revolutionary calendar", but
you got the right reference.
Just a whim I had and implemented when I was barely more than teenage
and never bothered to replace.
Regards,
--
issue was unintended consequence of my customization.
i had:
System Settings->Windows Behavior->Windows Behavior->Advanced tab
checked the Windows Tabbing's Automatically group similar windows.
i have un-checked that box now.
Thank you,
F-
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017, FHDATA wrote:
hello
Op 20-07-17 om 20:53 schreef Doug:
On 07/20/2017 08:54 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
On 07/20/2017 09:14 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
Le duodi 2 thermidor, an CCXXV, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit :
/snip/
Is this French? I can understand July being called something that must
mean HOT,
but is this
On 07/20/2017 08:54 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
On 07/20/2017 09:14 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
Le duodi 2 thermidor, an CCXXV, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit :
/snip/
Is this French? I can understand July being called something that must
mean HOT,
but is this year 225? Dated from when?
--doug
On 07/20/2017 06:32 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, July 19, 2017 09:27:16 PM Gene Heskett wrote:
Doug is correct. Every shop had a subscription to SAM's and toward the
end as many as 9 or 10, tall 4 drawer fileing cabinets to keep the stuff
in if the subscription was for all of the
Op 20-07-17 om 18:58 schreef Fungi4All:
Does it matter what we all think, even if agree or it matters what
the manual of the package says. In my installation this is manual
I found, it says apt all over the place, meanwhile there is apt-get
package to install. /usr/share/man/man8/apt-get.8.gz
Hi all :-)
can someone tell me how cups handles pdf files?
I've cups on server and some clients connected to it (ipp://ip/printer)
From client I print (ie: a 300Kb of pdf), in log cups server I see that
file size about 4/5Mb (why?), so the printer before print it I've to
wait also 15 minutes
> From: deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Agreed. I was beginning to despair of this list while reading through
> this thread. But we seem to live in times when evidence matters less
> and less, and assertion more and more.
> Sorry about the politics. Anyway, AFAICT acco
On 07/20/2017 11:54 AM, Darac Marjal wrote:
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 09:54:33AM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
On 07/20/2017 09:14 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
Le duodi 2 thermidor, an CCXXV, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit :
I have just noticed an entry , ~/.instlljammer, and would like to
know just
w
> From: solit...@mail.com
> The thing is that it"s not obvious to me that you can set any of the values:
> "true", "on", "yes" vs. "false", "off", "no".
A bit off topic, but in some places the ^ means high in others it means low
on top. As in file managers and taks managers. Whatsupwitdat?
But eve
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 09:54:33AM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
On 07/20/2017 09:14 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
Le duodi 2 thermidor, an CCXXV, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit :
I have just noticed an entry , ~/.instlljammer, and would like to know just
what it is and from whence it came!
I sugges
On Thursday, 20 July 2017 08:25:41 CEST David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 16:21:57 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 03:48:03PM +0200, solitone wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:22:33 CEST to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > > echo "APT::Clean-Installed no;
On Wed 05 Jul 2017 at 11:10:44 (+0200), Michael Lange wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm glad you could finally fix the issue.
>
> On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 12:15:33 +0930
> "Wayne Hartell" wrote:
>
> > I know I just wrote a long e-mail on this, but I think I just figured
> > out in my own mind exactly what is goin
On Thu 20 Jul 2017 at 21:21:08 (+1000), Erik Christiansen wrote:
> On 20.07.17 03:27, Felix Miata wrote:
> > David Wright composed on 2017-07-19 23:33 (UTC-0500):
> >
> > > On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 14:57:50 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote:
> >
> > >> Did you miss that in Stretch apt is preferred to apt-g
Bonjour coline
Envoyé depuis mon appareil mobile Samsung.
Message d'origine
De : Coline Boemler
Date : 2017/07/04 16:07 (GMT+00:00)
À : debian-user@lists.debian.org
Objet : N’hésites pas de commencer une conversation avec moi Coline
Je ne mords pas tu sais.
On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 13:45:13 +0900
Joel Rees wrote:
> Who can compete when Intel refuses to pay
> the price of making CPUs that are unsafe at
> progressively higher speeds?
Er .. s/unsafe/safe/ ???
But basically +1 to everything (else) you wrote.
Nick
--
Never FDISK after midnight
On 07/20/2017 09:14 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
Le duodi 2 thermidor, an CCXXV, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit :
I have just noticed an entry , ~/.instlljammer, and would like to know just
what it is and from whence it came!
I suggest you start by looking at its timestamp. If it is a directory,
look
On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 16:21:57 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 03:48:03PM +0200, solitone wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:22:33 CEST to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > echo "APT::Clean-Installed no;" > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/no-autoclean
> >
> > I've set it to "false"
Le duodi 2 thermidor, an CCXXV, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit :
> I have just noticed an entry , ~/.instlljammer, and would like to know just
> what it is and from whence it came!
I suggest you start by looking at its timestamp. If it is a directory,
look at its contents, including the timestamps. The
I have just installed Debian 9.0.0 on my 64bit Linux platform (upgraded
from 8.8.0 as a fresh install).
I have just noticed an entry , ~/.instlljammer, and would like to know
just what it is and from whence it came!Google tells me that it is a
cross platform utility that is no longer be mainta
On Thursday 20 July 2017 07:32:04 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 19, 2017 09:27:16 PM Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Doug is correct. Every shop had a subscription to SAM's and toward
> > the end as many as 9 or 10, tall 4 drawer fileing cabinets to keep
> > the stuff in if the subscripti
On Wed 19/Jul/2017 23:14:35 +0200 Martin Read wrote:
> On 19/07/17 12:17, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
>> One my wonder why GRSecurity is not (optionally) included in Linux.
>
> For a variety of reasons relating to the personalities and opinions of the
> people who would be involved - on both sides -
On 07/20/2017 07:23 PM, Hans wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am wondering, if it is normal, that systemd is restarting a service, which
> I as root did
> stop. In may case it is laptools-mode.
>
> See the output of syslog:
> Jul 20 12:16:47 localhost laptop-mode: enabled, not active
laptop-mode-tools
Le primidi 1er thermidor, an CCXXV, Ben Finney a écrit :
> By analogy: I am not capable of maintaining the house I live in, let
> alone of making significant improvements.
>
> Yet I benefit from the fact that anyone sufficiently motivated can learn
> to do so and they don't need permission from th
Le duodi 2 thermidor, an CCXXV, Hans a écrit :
> Jul 20 12:16:47 localhost laptop-mode: enabled, not active
Unless I am mistaken, that means the service is not currently running,
but set up to start automatically at boot (or more specifically for the
target blah blah).
It is exactly the same as
On Wednesday, July 19, 2017 09:27:16 PM Gene Heskett wrote:
> Doug is correct. Every shop had a subscription to SAM's and toward the
> end as many as 9 or 10, tall 4 drawer fileing cabinets to keep the stuff
> in if the subscription was for all of the stuff.
Ahh, Sam's was a good clue (for me)--I
Hi,
>I am wondering, if it is normal, that systemd is restarting a service,
>which I as root did
>stop. In may case it is laptools-mode.
>
>See the output of syslog:
>Jul 20 12:16:47 localhost laptop-mode: enabled, not active
>
>
>I know, I can force systemd, not to start demons at boot, but th
On 20.07.17 03:27, Felix Miata wrote:
> David Wright composed on 2017-07-19 23:33 (UTC-0500):
>
> > On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 14:57:50 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote:
>
> >> Did you miss that in Stretch apt is preferred to apt-get?
>
> > I did. Where does it say that?
>
> It was a long time ago that I
solitone wrote:
> On Thursday, 20 July 2017 10:05:56 CEST Dan Purgert wrote:
>> That being said, most network admins worth anything will be approaching
>> the problem from their side too (e.g. with band steering), in order to
>> "encourage" client devices to connect to the 5 GHz signal.
>
> I've tr
Hello,
I am wondering, if it is normal, that systemd is restarting a service, which I
as root did
stop. In may case it is laptools-mode.
See the output of syslog:
Jul 20 12:16:47 localhost laptop-mode: enabled, not active
I know, I can force systemd, not to start demons at boot, but this b
On Thursday, 20 July 2017 10:05:56 CEST Dan Purgert wrote:
> That being said, most network admins worth anything will be approaching
> the problem from their side too (e.g. with band steering), in order to
> "encourage" client devices to connect to the 5 GHz signal.
I've tried the band steering op
solitone wrote:
> [...]
> Is there some tweak I can do on the kernel module, so that the choice
> doesn't rely on any specific configuration on the AP?
Not directly (usually), it's a mix of a few things (as you'd done/
mentioned). You may be able to set some preferences in Network Manager
/ wicd
On 07/20/2017 05:39 PM, Fungi4All wrote:
> Apart from what different wm/dm do, should a user without sudo
> priviledges be able to stop or restart a system?
> In most wm I have seen the user is able to do this without being
> asked for root priviledges and I believe this is wrong and should
> not b
Dear Debian Users,
Since I upgraded from jessie to stretch at the start of this month, I am
experiencing random hangs when my laptop (Clevo W950JU barebone) is connected
to AC. The screen freezes and if sound was playing it is repeated in a 2-second
loop. The system does not recover from this a
Hi.
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 04:39:20AM -0400, Fungi4All wrote:
> Apart from what different wm/dm do, should a user without sudo
> priviledges be able to stop or restart a system?
> In most wm I have seen the user is able to do this without being
> asked for root priviledges and I believe t
Apart from what different wm/dm do, should a user without sudo
priviledges be able to stop or restart a system?
In most wm I have seen the user is able to do this without being
asked for root priviledges and I believe this is wrong and should
not be done.
As I see contradictory reading material on
Although this issue is widely discussed, but I didn't find a way to solve it.
My access point provides both 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz bands, and I'd like my WiFi
adapter chose 5 GHz over 2.4.
To accomplish this, I reduced the AP's TX power for 2.4 GHz, and increased
that for 5 GHz. The point is that wh
On Wednesday, 19 July 2017 23:02:04 CEST to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> There is this function StringToBool in apt-pkg/contrib/strutl.cc:
>
> [...]
>
> |// Check for positives
> |if (strcasecmp(Text.c_str(),"no") == 0 ||
> |
> |strcasecmp(Text.c_str(),"false") == 0 ||
> |
David Wright composed on 2017-07-19 23:33 (UTC-0500):
> On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 14:57:50 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote:
>> Did you miss that in Stretch apt is preferred to apt-get?
> I did. Where does it say that?
It was a long time ago that I first encountered it, and don't remember where it
was. I
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