Re: Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken

2017-08-09 Thread David Christensen
On 08/09/17 21:47, Charlie Kravetz wrote: It almost sounds like the panel is too long for the monitor. The clock is disappearing off the end of the panel. Is the clock the last thing in panel? Try moving it to the other of the panel, and see if it still disappears. Clock is neither the first n

Re: Kernel development cycle

2017-08-09 Thread solitone
On Tuesday, 1 August 2017 14:15:52 CEST solitone wrote: > Let's consider a practical example, the history of patch > "drm/i915/execlists: Reset RING registers upon resume". This patch was > committed 641 commits after version 4.8-rc2: > > $ git describe bafb2f7d4755bf1571bd5e9a03b97f3fc4fe69ae > v

Re: How to change default umask in Stretch?

2017-08-09 Thread Reco
Hi. An update for the archives. On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 08:09:16 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 01:27:02PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > Or find gnome-session (or gnome-shell - I don't recall who exactly > > spawns user applications in GNOME) process pid, execute something lik

Re: Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken

2017-08-09 Thread Charlie Kravetz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 17:13:55 -0700 David Christensen wrote: >debian-user: > >I have a Dell Inspiron E1505 laptop with an Intel Core Duo T7400 CPU, 2 >GB RAM, 16 GB SSD, and a fresh install of >debian-9.1.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso, with all updates and

Re: Btrs vs ext4. Which one is more reliable?

2017-08-09 Thread David Niklas
On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 04:59:40 + Andy Smith wrote: > > My understanding is that the only thing that prevents silent > > corruption in ext4 is the hard drive CRC (Cyclic Redundancy Check > > Error). Is that enough for a server? > > No, not with multi-terabyte devices. CRC doesn't detect well

Re: Laser Printer recommendation...

2017-08-09 Thread David Niklas
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 20:00:29 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Tue 08 Aug 2017 at 13:01:30 -0500, Doug wrote: > > > It always amazes me that people who get a driver made specifically > > for a device, a driver that has significantly more capability than > > one that came with their Linux os, > > would refus

Re: Background will not change.

2017-08-09 Thread Jape Person
On 08/09/2017 10:28 PM, Default User wrote: Thanks, Jape! That's a lot of information to digest, but I'll give it a try. I wish there was an automated tool that could go through the system, to find and report any missing or invalid or circular dependencies, etc., and fix it or at least say

Re: Background will not change.

2017-08-09 Thread Default User
Thanks, Jape! That's a lot of information to digest, but I'll give it a try. I wish there was an automated tool that could go through the system, to find and report any missing or invalid or circular dependencies, etc., and fix it or at least say "here's what you need to do to fix it". Maybe som

Re: Background will not change.

2017-08-09 Thread Jape Person
On 08/09/2017 02:31 PM, Default User wrote: ... Hi tomas. Cinnamon DE I think borrows it's background settings utility from Gnome 3. I had the background (wallpaper) set to show an image from the "Pictures" directory. Upon reboot, the background displayed instead was the "softwaves" wallpap

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Re: When did Debian decide to enable PIE by default?

2017-08-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 09 August 2017 12:43:14 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > what the heck is PIE? > > Dan Ritter and others wrote: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Position-independent_code > > It seems to have caused only moderate trouble. > Insofar it did not cause such a spe

Re: When did Debian decide to enable PIE by default?

2017-08-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 09 August 2017 10:52:26 慕 冬亮 wrote: > On 08/09/2017 10:48 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 09 August 2017 10:31:48 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> 慕 冬亮 wrote: > >>> When does Debian Team, or Security Team decide to enable PIE by > >>> default? > >> > >> I guess it wa

Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken

2017-08-09 Thread David Christensen
debian-user: I have a Dell Inspiron E1505 laptop with an Intel Core Duo T7400 CPU, 2 GB RAM, 16 GB SSD, and a fresh install of debian-9.1.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso, with all updates and upgrades as of now: 2017-08-09 16:59:07 root@tinkywinky ~ # cat /etc/debian_version 9.1 2017-08-09 16:59:18 ro

Re: Sudden death of bluetooth headphone connectivity

2017-08-09 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 08:18:02PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > But when I try $ pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover > Failure: Module initialization failed > > is it loaded or fails loading? > > pulseaudio -k > pulseaudio --start > pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover > 20 > pactl loa

Re: When did Debian decide to enable PIE by default?

2017-08-09 Thread 慕 冬亮
On 08/09/2017 10:31 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > 慕 冬亮 wrote: >> When does Debian Team, or Security Team decide to enable PIE by default? > I guess it was one year ago. At least that's the dates one can see on >https://wiki.debian.org/Hardening/PIEByDefaultTransition Such a good news f

Re: Help with USB audio card

2017-08-09 Thread Rodolfo Medina
deloptes writes: > Rodolfo Medina wrote: > >> I unmuted it from within alsamixer menu: F6 and went into the USB card >> table. Then I gave the command... > > perhaps there is also a volume control to set the volume Yes, but volume is loud... Rodolfo

Re: modifying debian installer image

2017-08-09 Thread Brian
On Wed 09 Aug 2017 at 08:49:46 +0200, Fourhundred Thecat wrote: > I have downloaded debian netinstaller: > > wget > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stretch/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/amd64/initrd.gz > > I have unpacked the image, and I was looking around to t

Re: Don’t hesitate to start a conversation with me Janice

2017-08-09 Thread Ron Bouvier
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Re: no non-free firmware on lapton, no Ethernet, related?

2017-08-09 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 09-08-17, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Dejan Jocic wrote: > > > Well, you should have write down what was > > missing during installation, those messages > > you get for reason. Also, when you have > > firmware and you get note that it is missing, > > it is best to abort installation and download > >

Re: I want to rejoice like a queen. Emma

2017-08-09 Thread Okpowe Eve Edirin
Thanks On Aug 6, 2017 11:08 PM, Emma Tapaszto wrote: > > > > Would you be my king?  > http://bitly.com/2vDxYln

Re: disable orange progress running apt

2017-08-09 Thread Brian
On Wed 09 Aug 2017 at 13:20:26 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 06:12:31PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 08 Aug 2017 at 14:05:10 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > > >From what documentation did Curt and you determine Apt::Color was the > > > >solution? > > > Google turns up "Apt

Re: Background will not change.

2017-08-09 Thread Default User
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 4:31 AM, wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 01:12:46PM -0400, Default User wrote: > > Hi. > > > > - Debian Unstable. > > - Cinnamon desktop environment. > > - Updated 2017-08-07, then shut down. > > - On 2017-08-08, booted u

Re: no non-free firmware on lapton, no Ethernet, related?

2017-08-09 Thread Emanuel Berg
Dejan Jocic wrote: > Well, you should have write down what was > missing during installation, those messages > you get for reason. Also, when you have > firmware and you get note that it is missing, > it is best to abort installation and download > needed firmware and put in USB you can insert > d

Re: Help with USB audio card

2017-08-09 Thread deloptes
Rodolfo Medina wrote: > I unmuted it from within alsamixer menu: F6 and went into the USB card > table. Then I gave the command... perhaps there is also a volume control to set the volume regards

Re: Sudden death of bluetooth headphone connectivity

2017-08-09 Thread deloptes
Mark Fletcher wrote: > Failed to connect: org.bluez.Error.Failed Mark Fletcher wrote: > Failed to connect: org.bluez.Error.Failed I am not an expert in BT headphones. I had enough experience with phones. However the process to connect is the same [bluetooth]# default-agent No agent is register

Re: When did Debian decide to enable PIE by default?

2017-08-09 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 09/08/2017 à 17:05, Dan Ritter a écrit : On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 10:48:24AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: Interesting Thomas, but what the heck is PIE? It is explained in the link posted by Thomas. It's a security measure. No, PIE is not a security measure per se. It just allows to map an

Re: Thunderbird 52.2.1 and Enigmail

2017-08-09 Thread D. R. Evans
D. R. Evans wrote on 08/07/2017 10:45 AM: > Daniel Bareiro wrote on 08/07/2017 09:36 AM: > >>> >>> BUT enigmail won't run because it seems that the current update requires a >>> version of gnupg that is more recent than the official version that is part >>> of >>> the repositories :-( >> >> I don

Re: disable orange progress running apt

2017-08-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 06:12:31PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Tue 08 Aug 2017 at 14:05:10 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > >From what documentation did Curt and you determine Apt::Color was the > > >solution? > > Google turns up "Apt::Color "false";" or "Apt::Color 0" nowhere except in > > this > > th

Re: disable orange progress running apt

2017-08-09 Thread Brian
On Tue 08 Aug 2017 at 14:05:10 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Brian composed on 2017-08-08 13:49 (UTC+0100): > > > Apologies. I missed off a ";" when translating the changelog entry to > > be used in your 99mono file. Also Progress-Fancy turns out to be not > > what you want. > > > "-o Apt::Color=0

Re: Why debian put ~/bin beginning of $PATH

2017-08-09 Thread David Wright
On Wed 09 Aug 2017 at 18:04:56 (+0200), Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > Having ~/bin before /bin and /usr/bin (and /usr/local/bin) is of no > harm at all if your account is safe enough. > > If and only if someone can log on with your account, she can put a > malicious copy/wrapper of a system command

Re: When did Debian decide to enable PIE by default?

2017-08-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: > > what the heck is PIE? Dan Ritter and others wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Position-independent_code It seems to have caused only moderate trouble. Insofar it did not cause such a spectacular echo as other novelties and strategic decisions. 慕 冬亮 wrote: > wh

Re: LibreOffice - middle click paste does not work.

2017-08-09 Thread Kamil Jońca
kjo...@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) writes: > > it was upgrade frrom 5.3.5~rc1 to 5.4.0-1 > > >> Can you give a repeatable sequence of steps that others can also try to >> reproduce what you're seeing? > 1. Open Writer or Calc window > 2. Open emacs or xterm window, write some random text. > 3.

Re: Why debian put ~/bin beginning of $PATH

2017-08-09 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
> "慕冬" == 慕 冬亮 writes: 慕冬> User's command is usually stored in "/usr/local/bin". It should 慕冬> be placed before "/bin" in the $PATH. /usr/local is a directory hierarchy for binaries typical of the local installation and being, by default, owned by root, it is not a directory for user command

Re: Why debian put ~/bin beginning of $PATH

2017-08-09 Thread 慕 冬亮
On 08/08/2017 04:56 PM, spp mg wrote: > 2017-08-09 4:04 GMT+08:00 Michael Lange : >> Hi, >> >> On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 03:11:48 +0800 >> spp mg wrote: >> >>> Hi all >>> >>> In the ~/.profile has below default setting: >>> >>> -- >>> # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exist

Re: When did Debian decide to enable PIE by default?

2017-08-09 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 09/08/17 15:48, Gene Heskett wrote: > Interesting Thomas, but what the heck is PIE? I know about PAE, but PIE? > Whats it do? Searching the above wiki returned only this thread. > > Thanks, you too. >> Have a nice day :) >> >> Thomas > > Cheers, Gene Heskett Position-independent executable:

Re: When did Debian decide to enable PIE by default?

2017-08-09 Thread Dan Ritter
On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 10:48:24AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 09 August 2017 10:31:48 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > 慕 冬亮 wrote: > > > When does Debian Team, or Security Team decide to enable PIE by > > > default? > > > > I guess it was one year ago. At least that's the da

Re: When did Debian decide to enable PIE by default?

2017-08-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 09 August 2017 10:31:48 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > 慕 冬亮 wrote: > > When does Debian Team, or Security Team decide to enable PIE by > > default? > > I guess it was one year ago. At least that's the dates one can see on > https://wiki.debian.org/Hardening/PIEByDefaultTransition

Re: When did Debian decide to enable PIE by default?

2017-08-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, 慕 冬亮 wrote: > When does Debian Team, or Security Team decide to enable PIE by default? I guess it was one year ago. At least that's the dates one can see on https://wiki.debian.org/Hardening/PIEByDefaultTransition Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: no non-free firmware on lapton, no Ethernet, related?

2017-08-09 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 09-08-17, Emanuel Berg wrote: > I installed a 32-bit Debian on an HP laptop the > other day, and during installation it said > non-free components were not installed as not > on the disc, for political reasons I suppose, > and then the network couldn't be set up > correctly despite the cable in

no non-free firmware on lapton, no Ethernet, related?

2017-08-09 Thread Emanuel Berg
I installed a 32-bit Debian on an HP laptop the other day, and during installation it said non-free components were not installed as not on the disc, for political reasons I suppose, and then the network couldn't be set up correctly despite the cable in place. When done, I couldn't get Internet to

When did Debian decide to enable PIE by default?

2017-08-09 Thread 慕 冬亮
Hello all, I upgraded to Stretch several days ago. When I traced the instruction or debuged program, I found the program compiled by default is enabled PIE. When does Debian Team, or Security Team decide to enable PIE by default? --- My best regards to you. No Sys

Re: Why debian put ~/bin beginning of $PATH

2017-08-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 10:04:32PM +0200, Michael Lange wrote: > #!/bin/bash > GTK_IM_MODULE=gtk /usr/bin/poedit $@ > exit $? Should be: #!/bin/bash GTK_IM_MODULE=gtk exec /usr/bin/poedit "$@" You could also use #!/bin/sh, since this doesn't use any bash extensions.

Re: Help with USB audio card

2017-08-09 Thread Curt
On 2017-08-09, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Curt writes: > >> On 2017-08-09, Rodolfo Medina wrote: >>> >>> I had done so... no output. >> >> Have you tried opening up pavucontrol and selecting your usb audio >> gadget as input device? > > > It is regularly listed within pavucontrol among all input d

Re: How to change default umask in Stretch?

2017-08-09 Thread Garrett R.
Found this. Reuben Thomas reported this earlier in the year. Lot of guys tracked down PIDs. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780622 - Original Message - From: "Reco" To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 6:27:02 AM Subject: Re: How to change default u

Re: Sudden death of bluetooth headphone connectivity

2017-08-09 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Sat, Aug 05, 2017 at 05:27:49PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > > Can you try bluetoothctl and see if it connects properly. > you can also post the output of "info " > bluetoothctl [NEW] Controller 00:1B:DC:04:DB:FA kazuki [default] [NEW] Device 8C:8E:F2:C2:BD:93 iPhone [NEW] Device 00:09:A7:09:BE:2

Re: Laser Printer recommendation...

2017-08-09 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 07:13:03AM -0400, Jape Person wrote: > [...] Ah, ASCII art pinups put up by a "naughty" SYSOP printed > out on tractor feed! Those were the days! Oh, yeah. And lawn, and that :-) Cheers - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Ve

Re: How to change default umask in Stretch?

2017-08-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 01:27:02PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Or find gnome-session (or gnome-shell - I don't recall who exactly > spawns user applications in GNOME) process pid, execute something like > this on login: > > gdb -p $(pidof gnome-session) -ex 'p umask(0077)' --batch > > You'll need gdb to

Re: Help with USB audio card

2017-08-09 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Curt writes: > On 2017-08-09, Rodolfo Medina wrote: >> >> I had done so... no output. > > Have you tried opening up pavucontrol and selecting your usb audio > gadget as input device? It is regularly listed within pavucontrol among all input devices... Thanks, Rodolfo

Re: Laser Printer recommendation...

2017-08-09 Thread Jape Person
On 08/09/2017 04:29 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 01:01:30PM -0500, Doug wrote: [...] It always amazes me that people who get a driver made specifically for a device [...] Thanks, Brian and Jape. You've put it more eloquent

Re: Help with USB audio card

2017-08-09 Thread Curt
On 2017-08-09, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > I had done so... no output. Have you tried opening up pavucontrol and selecting your usb audio gadget as input device? > Thanks > Rodolfo > > -- “Certitude is not the test of certainty.” --Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

Re: Background will not change.

2017-08-09 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 01:12:46PM -0400, Default User wrote: > Hi. > > - Debian Unstable. > - Cinnamon desktop environment. > - Updated 2017-08-07, then shut down. > - On 2017-08-08, booted up. > > Now, background is the Debian 9 default "Flipper" i

Re: Laser Printer recommendation...

2017-08-09 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 01:01:30PM -0500, Doug wrote: [...] > It always amazes me that people who get a driver made specifically > for a device [...] Thanks, Brian and Jape. You've put it more eloquently than I could :) Let me add that to a fish, t

Re: Cette fois ci je me sens pleine d’énergie Audrey

2017-08-09 Thread Jacquot Jérôme
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