Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-22 Thread Richard Hector
On 23/03/18 14:44, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Christ, Richard :-) > why are we still discussing this.  (And what does it have to do > with the original question about "Federated, decentralised communication > on the internet?"  ... which was originally a question about how > "hostname" is used by De

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-22 Thread Richard Hector
On 23/03/18 13:55, Dan Purgert wrote: > Richard Hector wrote: >> >> On 23/03/18 11:31, Dan Purgert wrote: >>> Richard Hector wrote: On 23/03/18 01:17, Greg Wooledge wrote: > [...] > RFC 1594 : A Fully Qualified > Domain Name (FQDN) is a domain

Re: domain names, was: hostname

2018-03-22 Thread David Wright
On Thu 22 Mar 2018 at 22:17:02 (-), Dan Purgert wrote: > David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 22 Mar 2018 at 08:58:43 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> [...] > >> An SMTP receiver SHOULD validate the recipient address right here, > >> right now. It SHOULDN'T just accept everything and then figure o

Re: domain names, was: hostname

2018-03-22 Thread David Wright
On Thu 22 Mar 2018 at 20:26:26 (+), Brian wrote: > On Thu 22 Mar 2018 at 12:44:53 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > [...] > > > Here are my points, as it's a month since I made them. I didn't > > quite answer the question as posed. > > > > --✄-- > > > > > that as well as being asked to sup

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 3/22/18 7:14 PM, Richard Hector wrote: On 23/03/18 11:31, Dan Purgert wrote: Richard Hector wrote: On 23/03/18 01:17, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] RFC 1594 : A Fully Qualified Domain Name (FQDN) is a domain name that includes all higher level domains rele

Re: Missing Shared Object File for ffmpeg

2018-03-22 Thread Dan Norton
On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 12:46:06 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Tue 20 Mar 2018 at 21:29:49 (-0400), Dan Norton wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 18:35:48 -0500 > > David Wright wrote: > > > > > On Tue 20 Mar 2018 at 18:41:55 (-0400), Dan Norton wrote: > > > > On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 13:42:24 -0500 >

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-22 Thread Dan Purgert
Richard Hector wrote: > This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) > --xzXHS3VVn10PcTmOrOWirzNfIdRO84rgl > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Wlh5om7AxfFwwkNI2fav87yEOngrEELuZ"; > protected-headers="v1" > From: Richard Hector > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Message-ID:

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 3/22/18 7:06 PM, dekks herton wrote: On 03/21, Miles Fidelman wrote: On 3/21/18 11:48 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: On 21/03/18 01:00 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: My problem with "social networks" is that they're monopolies. Imagine popping down to the local pub for a pint and a bit of conve

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-22 Thread Richard Hector
On 23/03/18 11:31, Dan Purgert wrote: > Richard Hector wrote: >> On 23/03/18 01:17, Greg Wooledge wrote: >>> [...] >>> RFC 1594 : A Fully Qualified >>> Domain Name (FQDN) is a domain name that includes all higher level >>> domains relevant to the entity named.

Re: Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-22 Thread dekks herton
On 03/21, Miles Fidelman wrote: On 3/21/18 11:48 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: On 21/03/18 01:00 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: My problem with "social networks" is that they're monopolies. Imagine popping down to the local pub for a pint and a bit of conversation, only to find that it's part of a

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-22 Thread Dan Purgert
Richard Hector wrote: > On 23/03/18 01:17, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> [...] >> RFC 1594 : A Fully Qualified >> Domain Name (FQDN) is a domain name that includes all higher level >> domains relevant to the entity named. If you think of the DNS as a >> tree-structur

Re: domain names, was: hostname

2018-03-22 Thread Dan Purgert
David Wright wrote: > On Thu 22 Mar 2018 at 08:58:43 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: >> [...] >> An SMTP receiver SHOULD validate the recipient address right here, >> right now. It SHOULDN'T just accept everything and then figure out >> whether it's deliverable later -- that enables joe-job spam. >

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-22 Thread Richard Hector
On 23/03/18 01:17, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 12:04:07AM -, Dan Purgert wrote: >> Richard Hector wrote: >>> I often see this alluded to, but struggle to find evidence - why >>> shouldn't there be a postmaster@com, for example? Or perhaps cic@mil? >> >> It is my understanding

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname)

2018-03-22 Thread deloptes
Forest wrote: > Does this work better? Evolution rather than web-based email. definitely

Re: domain names, was: hostname

2018-03-22 Thread Brian
On Thu 22 Mar 2018 at 12:44:53 -0500, David Wright wrote: [...] > Here are my points, as it's a month since I made them. I didn't > quite answer the question as posed. > > --✄-- > > > that as well as being asked to supply a hostname I've also been asked > > to supply a domain value. > > > >

Re: Network Problems

2018-03-22 Thread Tom Furie
On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 02:45:07PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: > So, what about locally-created Ethernet devices (e.g. Virtual Machine > interfaces, or devices without a burned-in MAC address)? For these, > you don't need to apply for your own OUI. The MAC address standard > states that if the seco

Re: domain names, was: hostname

2018-03-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 12:44:53PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > I don't need help because the smarthost I've chosen to use does not > insist on this. Then you're basically an end user, not a mail admin. > When I authenticate, I can send the mail anywhere, but it's tedious to > demonstrate here as

Re: domain names, was: hostname

2018-03-22 Thread David Wright
On Thu 22 Mar 2018 at 08:58:43 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 06:59:04PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > Sure, so in my case, I'd be forced to find out what my router's > > hostname is so that I can quote a hostname that will resolve to the > > address that I woud be posting

Re: Network Problems

2018-03-22 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 10:50:59AM +, David wrote: On Thu, 2018-03-22 at 11:15 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 09:46:02AM +, Thomas Pircher wrote: > On Thu, 22 Mar 2018, David wrote: > > Does Debian keep a table of MAC addresses? If so where can I locate it? > > Th

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 3/22/18 3:56 AM, deloptes wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: the problem with DMARC is simple - it breaks any kind of retransmission - in particular mailing lists that's why I don't get the mails delivered to the mailbox or get numerous non deliverable mails from the mail server. nevertheless y

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname)

2018-03-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 06:59:04PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > Sure, so in my case, I'd be forced to find out what my router's > hostname is so that I can quote a hostname that will resolve to the > address that I woud be posting on. Currently this appears to be > ip70-179-161-106.fv.ks.cox.net >

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 12:04:07AM -, Dan Purgert wrote: > Richard Hector wrote: > > I often see this alluded to, but struggle to find evidence - why > > shouldn't there be a postmaster@com, for example? Or perhaps cic@mil? > > It is my understanding that the TLDs are not themselves valid doma

Re: Network Problems

2018-03-22 Thread David
On Thu, 2018-03-22 at 11:15 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 09:46:02AM +, Thomas Pircher wrote: > > On Thu, 22 Mar 2018, David wrote: > > > Does Debian keep a table of MAC addresses? If so where can I locate it? > > > > The kernel does. You can get the ARP table e.g. wi

Re: Network Problems

2018-03-22 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 09:46:02AM +, Thomas Pircher wrote: > On Thu, 22 Mar 2018, David wrote: > > Does Debian keep a table of MAC addresses? If so where can I locate it? > > The kernel does. You can get the ARP table e.g. with > > ip neigh li

Re: how to view config file changes without running an upgrade?

2018-03-22 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 03/21/18 17:18, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 04:46:16PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: Its pretty painful to resolve config file conflicts in (lets say) dovecot at upgrade time, putting EMail access for +200 users at risk. I have to check in advance. Resolving config file conflic

Re: how to view config file changes without running an upgrade?

2018-03-22 Thread Curt
On 2018-03-21, deloptes wrote: > Richard Hector wrote: > >> Where 'checked' was presumably the debilitate one :-) > > true, sorry - even double checking fails sometime :D > > When Norman Mailer's Harlot's Ghost was published it contained a grammatical error in the first sentence (and one can only

Re: Network Problems

2018-03-22 Thread Thomas Pircher
On Thu, 22 Mar 2018, David wrote: > Does Debian keep a table of MAC addresses? If so where can I locate it? The kernel does. You can get the ARP table e.g. with ip neigh list This table is relatively short-lived and if you haven't talked to that device recently it might not show up in the ta

Network Problems

2018-03-22 Thread David
Dear Group, I'm having some network issues where I have several Arduino's on my network and I may have given two of them the same MAC address. Does Debian keep a table of MAC addresses? If so where can I locate it? It could of course be my browser that is keeping this table, I'm using PaleMoon.

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname)

2018-03-22 Thread Joe
On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 08:59:11 +0100 deloptes wrote: > David Wright wrote: > > > Sure, so in my case, I'd be forced to find out what my router's > > hostname is so that I can quote a hostname that will resolve to the > > address that I woud be posting on. Currently this appears to be > > ip70-179-

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-22 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 10:47:24PM +, Brian wrote: On Wed 21 Mar 2018 at 16:41:25 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/21/2018 03:47 PM, Brian wrote: > On Wed 21 Mar 2018 at 12:05:53 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > > On 3/21/18 11:48 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > > > > > On 21/03/18 01:00 AM, t

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname)

2018-03-22 Thread deloptes
David Wright wrote: > Sure, so in my case, I'd be forced to find out what my router's > hostname is so that I can quote a hostname that will resolve to the > address that I woud be posting on. Currently this appears to be > ip70-179-161-106.fv.ks.cox.net these are not valid SMTP domain names. It

Re: [Asus x205ta] Sound not working on Intel HDMI/DP LPE Audio

2018-03-22 Thread deloptes
Leandro Noferini wrote: > I cannot follow this solution because pulseaudio dies at the beginning > of the user session so I cannot control it. I think I need a way to > blacklist the device it gives me problem. Have you tried deleting your ~/.pulse directory?

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-22 Thread deloptes
Miles Fidelman wrote: > the problem with DMARC is simple - it breaks any kind of retransmission > - in particular mailing lists that's why I don't get the mails delivered to the mailbox or get numerous non deliverable mails from the mail server. nevertheless you will not be able to resent mails

Re: bad upgrade libgstgl-1.0.so.0

2018-03-22 Thread Pétùr
Le 21/03/2018 à 19:38, Kushal Kumaran a écrit : > The package version mentioned above is not from the official debian > repositories. It appears to be from deb-multimedia.org. > > The Debian Multimedia FAQ at > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/FAQ might help. See sections > 2.5 and 3.1.

Re: [Asus x205ta] Sound not working on Intel HDMI/DP LPE Audio

2018-03-22 Thread Leandro Noferini
Ric Moore writes: >> pulseaudio to use only the first audio card? > > Install pavucontrol. Under the configuration tab you can either > configure or turn off the devices it finds. Turn off the one you don't > want. You should use alsamixer first, as pulse sits on top of > alsa. Use the F6 key to