Re: Setting up bind9/DNS

2019-07-02 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Fri 28/Jun/2019 22:02:52 +0200 Joe wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 11:44:54 -0500 Dennis Wicks wrote: > >> I was thinking that I could setup a nameserver on my machine >> with enries in it for the virtual hosts and have my local >> network address in the list of nameservers in my >> modem/rout

Re: Choice of VMs under i386 Stretch?

2019-07-02 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 05:01:11AM +0200, Matthew Crews wrote: > On 7/2/19 1:20 PM, Andy Smith wrote: > > I do feel sorry for you Matthew. You have been enticed into spending > > considerable time giving a thorough answer in an Owlett thread. > > Unfortunately Owlett threads are either an ongoing I

Re: ncurses?

2019-07-02 Thread andreimpopescu
On Ma, 02 iul 19, 17:45:32, ghe wrote: > Buster, Supermicro 5036T (aka sbox), Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450 according > to lspci, RME Hammerfall sound card [...] > The problem is that, on sbox, alsamixer and aptitude are badly displayed Apparently "sbox" is the host name (or how you refer to it). I

Re: Choice of VMs under i386 Stretch?

2019-07-02 Thread Matthew Crews
On 7/2/19 1:20 PM, Andy Smith wrote: > I do feel sorry for you Matthew. You have been enticed into spending > considerable time giving a thorough answer in an Owlett thread. > Unfortunately Owlett threads are either an ongoing Internet > performance art project or a result of severe mental illness

Correct: Re: Output from apt-get update.

2019-07-02 Thread peter
From: Francisco M Neto Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 07:27:28 -0300 > It's also worth checking if there's anything under > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ You're right. If /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mythtv.list is disabled, apt-get update doesn't produce obscure complaints. The complaints from apt-get

Re: ncurses?

2019-07-02 Thread Felix Miata
ghe composed on 2019-07-02 17:45 (UTC-0600): https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/07/msg00110.html It's been eons since I heard of any kind of trouble with ncurses. :-) sbox I'm not familiar with. :-( I have a Dell gfxcard on a Buster test box that may be the same as yours except for the b

Re: Output from apt-get update.

2019-07-02 Thread Matthew Crews
On 7/2/19 5:18 PM, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > From: Francisco M Neto > Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 07:27:28 -0300 >> It's also worth checking if there's anything under >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ > peter@imager:~$ ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mythtv.list > peter@imager

Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster)

2019-07-02 Thread Geoff
The Wanderer wrote: On 2019-07-02 at 10:10, Curt wrote: On 2019-07-02, The Wanderer wrote: Not even that, it seems (no longer affects systemd). Have you confirmed that? It seems possible that on a systemd machine, things in other packages (such as whatever would provide that 99-default.lin

Re: Output from apt-get update.

2019-07-02 Thread peter
From: Francisco M Neto Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 07:27:28 -0300 > It's also worth checking if there's anything under > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ peter@dalton:/etc/apt$ ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ls: cannot access '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/*': No such file or directory peter@dalton:/etc/apt$

Hey. wie geht’s?

2019-07-02 Thread Oliver Dr . Muth
Lass dir das nicht entgehen! https://laullansunli1973.blogspot.cl/ ___ Gruß Oliver Dr. Muth

Re: ncurses?

2019-07-02 Thread Jude DaShiell
Try running script if the system is already installed then run each of the problem commands then type exit. You'll get a file called typescript which is ansi text that probably will get through the spam filters if you include it in the body of your message and do not attach it. If the ansi can be

ncurses?

2019-07-02 Thread ghe
Buster, Supermicro 5036T (aka sbox), Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450 according to lspci, RME Hammerfall sound card I asked for help with this a few days ago and attached a screenshot to show what my problem is. There've been no replies -- I guess graphics are caught by a spam filter somewhere. The probl

Re: Output from apt-get update.

2019-07-02 Thread peter
From: Matthew Crews Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 06:00:26 +0200 (CEST) > What does your "/etc/apt/sources.list" file look like on your two machines? Here they are. # imager:/etc/apt/sources.list # Security updates deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free deb-sr

Re: Choice of VMs under i386 Stretch?

2019-07-02 Thread Linux-Fan
Richard Owlett writes: On 07/01/2019 01:43 PM, Linux-Fan wrote: Richard Owlett writes: [...] I do not understand. It was an attempt to give you a list of packages that may allow you to start using VMs without further checks ... That your answer was "a list of packages" is key to the comm

Re: Choice of VMs under i386 Stretch?

2019-07-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hello Curt and Matthew, On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 12:04:36PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2019-07-02, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > A restatement of my question might be: […] > What do we win if we provide the correct answer? A year's supply of > invective? I do feel sorry for you Matthew. You have b

Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster)

2019-07-02 Thread Brian
On Tue 02 Jul 2019 at 10:22:56 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2019-07-02 at 10:10, Curt wrote: > > > On 2019-07-02, The Wanderer wrote: > > > >>> Not even that, it seems (no longer affects systemd). > >> > >> Have you confirmed that? It seems possible that on a systemd > >> machine, things in

Re: how to use systemd to delete old files and directories on stretch?

2019-07-02 Thread D. R. Evans
Sven Joachim wrote on 6/28/19 11:06 PM: > > If you cannot get systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service to do its job, > something like this should do the trick: > > find /tmp -mindepth 1 -mtime +35 -atime +35 -delete > I was hoping to avoid having to write a script (because obviously one needs to add so

Re: Choice of VMs under i386 Stretch?

2019-07-02 Thread Matthew Crews
On 7/2/19 8:34 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> I'm partial to VirtualBox. Is that on any of the Debian DVD'S? >> No, because it isn't free software. >> See for details. > > I believe what you wrote is slightly misleading: the base VirtualBox > software seems to

Re: How Buster release may affect Unstable?

2019-07-02 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-02, Curt wrote: > On 2019-07-01, Joe wrote: >> >> Debian's main selling point is that a Stable can *always* be upgraded >> in place to the next version, so that kind of incompatibility does not > > Then it will fail to live up to the marketing for the brave 600 or so

Re: Choice of VMs under i386 Stretch?

2019-07-02 Thread Matthew Crews
On 7/2/19 8:34 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> I'm partial to VirtualBox. Is that on any of the Debian DVD'S? >> No, because it isn't free software. >> See for details. > > I believe what you wrote is slightly misleading: the base VirtualBox > software seems to

Re: Choice of VMs under i386 Stretch?

2019-07-02 Thread Matthew Crews
On 7/2/19 8:34 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> I'm partial to VirtualBox. Is that on any of the Debian DVD'S? >> No, because it isn't free software. >> See for details. > > I believe what you wrote is slightly misleading: the base VirtualBox > software seems to

Re: gnupg / enigmail excessive processing times

2019-07-02 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, > On 24/6/19 12:14 am, The Wanderer wrote: >> The short version of this is that I think I need to clear out a >> lot of irrelevant keys / signatures, et cetera, from my gnupg >> configuration - but I don't want to do anything which risks losing

Re: How Buster release may affect Unstable?

2019-07-02 Thread Default User
On Tue, Jul 2, 2019, 05:38 Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Mon, Jul 01, 2019 at 03:34:55PM -0400, Default User wrote: > > What if a new Stable release introduces a major change to the existing > > distribution technology or methodology? > > > > For example, a new default filesystem is introduced. Or

Re: gnupg / enigmail excessive processing times

2019-07-02 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 24/6/19 12:14 am, The Wanderer wrote: > The short version of this is that I think I need to clear out a > lot of irrelevant keys / signatures, et cetera, from my gnupg > configuration - but I don't want to do anything which risks losing > m

Re: Choice of VMs under i386 Stretch?

2019-07-02 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> I'm partial to VirtualBox. Is that on any of the Debian DVD'S? > No, because it isn't free software. > See for details. I believe what you wrote is slightly misleading: the base VirtualBox software seems to satisfy the definition of Free Software just fine

Re: Choice of VMs under i386 Stretch?

2019-07-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 11:17:06AM -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: > I'm partial to VirtualBox. Is that on any of the Debian DVD'S? No, because it isn't free software. See for details.

Re: Choice of VMs under i386 Stretch?

2019-07-02 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Tue, Jul 2, 2019, 8:05 AM Curt wrote: > On 2019-07-02, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > A restatement of my question might be: > > > > I run the i386 version of Debian 9.8. > > Using only contents of that set of installation DVDs, I wish to use a VM > > host capable of running multiple VM guests

Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster)

2019-07-02 Thread The Wanderer
On 2019-07-02 at 10:10, Curt wrote: > On 2019-07-02, The Wanderer wrote: > >>> Not even that, it seems (no longer affects systemd). >> >> Have you confirmed that? It seems possible that on a systemd >> machine, things in other packages (such as whatever would provide >> that 99-default.link fil

Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster)

2019-07-02 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-02, The Wanderer wrote: >> Not even that, it seems (no longer affects systemd). > > Have you confirmed that? It seems possible that on a systemd machine, > things in other packages (such as whatever would provide that > 99-default.link file, which unfortunately - because it's under /et

Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster)

2019-07-02 Thread The Wanderer
On 2019-07-02 at 09:10, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 08:51:10AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2019-07-02 at 08:37, Curt wrote: >> >>> Not even that, it seems (no longer affects systemd). >> >> Have you confirmed that? > > I'm using systemd, and the 70-* file was used whe

Re: Choice of VMs under i386 Stretch?

2019-07-02 Thread Matthew Crews
On 7/2/19 6:04 AM, Matthew Crews wrote: > To determine *which* installation DVD contains one of these programs, > you will need to look at the individual wiki page for each VM host > program, see which package or packages you need, and check the DVD .list > files to see which DVD contains that pac

Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster)

2019-07-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 08:51:10AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2019-07-02 at 08:37, Curt wrote: > > Not even that, it seems (no longer affects systemd). > > Have you confirmed that? I'm using systemd, and the 70-* file was used when I upgraded to buster, but that was roughly 2 months ago. I

Re: Choice of VMs under i386 Stretch?

2019-07-02 Thread Matthew Crews
On 7/2/19 4:30 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > A restatement of my question might be: > > I run the i386 version of Debian 9.8. > Using only contents of that set of installation DVDs, I wish to use a VM > host capable of running multiple VM guests. Although the guests will be > running in com

Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster)

2019-07-02 Thread The Wanderer
On 2019-07-02 at 08:37, Curt wrote: > On 2019-07-02, The Wanderer wrote: >> /usr/share/doc/udev/README.Debian.gz has a section on the subject >> of migration from the old naming scheme to the new one. Although it >> does not seem to state as much explicitly, from that section (and >> other parts

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

2019-07-02 Thread andreimpopescu
On Mi, 19 iun 19, 11:06:59, Bagas Sanjaya wrote: > Hello all Debian Users, > > Consider the hypothetical scenario below. Your hypothetical scenario is not relevant for what you are asking. Context for the list: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2019/06/msg00371.html > I often encountered c

Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster)

2019-07-02 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-02, The Wanderer wrote: >> https://www.debian.org/releases///buster/s390x/release-notes/ch-informa= > tion.en.html#migrate-interface-names > > (Any particular reason you linked to the s390x version of the release > notes? It seems to match e.g. the amd64 one for this purpose, so it > s

Re: Choice of VMs under i386 Stretch?

2019-07-02 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-02, Richard Owlett wrote: > > A restatement of my question might be: > > I run the i386 version of Debian 9.8. > Using only contents of that set of installation DVDs, I wish to use a VM > host capable of running multiple VM guests. Although the guests will be > running in command line

70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster)

2019-07-02 Thread The Wanderer
On 2019-07-01 at 03:47, Curt wrote: > Another, less serious, gotcha for those inveterate upgraders and > newbies who don't read the release notes is that > '/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules' is no longer a valid > mechanism for defining device names. This mechanism (automagically) > pe

Re: Debian Perl or Brew Perl for production application?

2019-07-02 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
On 7/2/19 11:20 AM, Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Mon, Jul 01, 2019 at 06:30:19PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> I tend to stick to Debian packages as my primary choice, resorting >> to off-distribution packages when needed (e.g. not packaged for >> Debian, or I /need/ a newer version). Of course i

Re: Choice of VMs under i386 Stretch?

2019-07-02 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/01/2019 01:43 PM, Linux-Fan wrote: Richard Owlett writes: [...] I do not understand. It was an attempt to give you a list of packages that may allow you to start using VMs without further checks ... That your answer was "a list of packages" is key to the communication problem.

Re: Debian Perl or Brew Perl for production application?

2019-07-02 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Mon, Jul 01, 2019 at 06:30:19PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > I tend to stick to Debian packages as my primary choice, resorting > to off-distribution packages when needed (e.g. not packaged for > Debian, or I /need/ a newer version). Of course it takes some foresight > to guess in advance wh

Re: How Buster release may affect Unstable?

2019-07-02 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Mon, Jul 01, 2019 at 03:34:55PM -0400, Default User wrote: > What if a new Stable release introduces a major change to the existing > distribution technology or methodology? > > For example, a new default filesystem is introduced. Or something like > systemd infects the distribution or its rat

Re: An Ounce of Prevention

2019-07-02 Thread andreimpopescu
On Lu, 17 iun 19, 14:20:33, Bob Bernstein wrote: > For a change, I want to proceed with a tad of caution > rather than follow Don't RTFM - Wing That Sucker. > > I have an old Jessie running: > > Linux debian.localdomain 3.16.0-7-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.59-1 (2018-10-03) > x86_64 GNU/Linux > >

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 July 2019 19:42:08 David Wright wrote: > On Mon 01 Jul 2019 at 15:56:14 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 01 July 2019 09:33:35 David Wright wrote: > > > On Mon 01 Jul 2019 at 06:05:52 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Monday 01 July 2019 03:52:55 Jonathan Dowland wrote

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

2019-07-02 Thread andreimpopescu
On Lu, 17 iun 19, 10:05:11, mick crane wrote: > hello, > I know nothing about IPv6. Then you don't have any prejudices ;) (no, IPv6 doesn't break your network). > Can somebody point to a good explanation ? > Without knowing anything about it I'm wondering if I should request an IPv6 > range from

Re: How Buster release may affect Unstable?

2019-07-02 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-01, Joe wrote: > > Debian's main selling point is that a Stable can *always* be upgraded > in place to the next version, so that kind of incompatibility does not Then it will fail to live up to the marketing for the brave 600 or so Debian users (according to Popularity Contest) regular

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2019-07-02 Thread Bapi Dey
sudo apt update Ign:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch InRelease Hit:2 http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates InRelease Get:3 http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch-updates InRelease [90.3 kB] Err:2 http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates InRelease The fol

Re: How Buster release may affect Unstable?

2019-07-02 Thread Joe
On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 09:21:59 +0200 wrote: > On Mon, Jul 01, 2019 at 11:51:10PM +0200, Matthew Crews wrote: > > On 7/1/19 10:24 AM, Default User wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > > > Easy question, maybe hard to answer . . .  > > > > > > Is someone has an existing conventional Unstable setup (nothing >

Re: How Buster release may affect Unstable?

2019-07-02 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jul 01, 2019 at 11:51:10PM +0200, Matthew Crews wrote: > On 7/1/19 10:24 AM, Default User wrote: > > Hi. > > > > Easy question, maybe hard to answer . . .  > > > > Is someone has an existing conventional Unstable setup (nothing exotic > > in hardware or software), what if any special acti

Re: Fwd: alternative Firmware for BMC's

2019-07-02 Thread Stefan K
Hello, a BMC or IPMI interface is a controller which is described here [1] > But apparently you can replace BMC's 'firmware' with your own, something > that OpenBMC tries to achieve. Main problem is - there are many > BMC/ILOM/ILO, and OpenBMC targets a few of them. I'd give my hand for a > sensi

Re: How Buster release may affect Unstable?

2019-07-02 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jul 01, 2019 at 11:27:40PM +0200, Ansgar wrote: > Default User writes: > > Or something like > > systemd infects the distribution or its rate of metastasis accelerates, This was definitely toxic... > I think we should make systemd mandatory; it would help make Debian a > more welcoming d