Re: HTML mail

2019-07-10 Thread John Crawley
On 2019-07-11 15:25, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 11 iul 19, 12:31:07, John Crawley wrote: ...user agents that could deal with html in some sane way, and without exposing the recipient to attacks. Simply not following any web links would be enough I'd have thought? Or are there some more subtle

Re: Buster RC 1 upgrade to stable

2019-07-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 10 iul 19, 16:04:45, Tom Browder wrote: > I had to use Buster RC 1 to successfully install Debian on a new laptop > (from Zareason) since I couldn't get Stretch stable to work. Just for the archives, the RC1 referred to the Debian Installer itself. What exactly you installed depends on the

Re: HTML mail (was: chromebook)

2019-07-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 11 iul 19, 12:31:07, John Crawley wrote: > > I was never trying to claim that it was OK to send messages as html - I > always use plain text myself - but I thought there might be something to be > said for user agents that could deal with html in some sane way, and without > exposing the re

Re: HTML mail (was: chromebook)

2019-07-10 Thread John Crawley
On 2019-07-10 15:31, Reco wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 10:35:33AM +0900, John Crawley wrote: On 2019-07-10 01:52, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 06:48:22PM +0200, mjonsson1...@gmail.com wrote: Please post only text, not HTML. If your email agent *cannot* do plain text alone,

Re: Upgrade to Buster and perl Device::SerialPort

2019-07-10 Thread David Christensen
On 7/10/19 10:39 AM, Martin McCormick wrote: David Christensen writes: Post a console session showing the commands issued and the error messages produced. I'll go you one better. I'll show the code of one of the programs that dies instantly. It uses /dev/ttyACM0 which is the device created w

Re: chromebook

2019-07-10 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 12:52 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 06:48:22PM +0200, mjonsson1...@gmail.com wrote: > > xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m=" > http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml"; xmlns=" > http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40";> content="

Re: buster irqbalance on 4.19.0-5 kernel?

2019-07-10 Thread Boyan Penkov
-- Boyan Penkov www.boyanpenkov.com > On Jul 10, 2019, at 15:30, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > > On 7/10/19, Boyan Penkov wrote: >> Hello, >> >> After the upgrade to 4.19.0-5, the irqbalance package is marked for >> autoremoval. While I am not familiar with exactly what it does, >> reading here

Re: Buster RC 1 upgrade to stable

2019-07-10 Thread Tom Browder
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 18:34 songbird wrote: > Tom Browder wrote: > > > > I had to use Buster RC 1 to successfully install Debian on a new laptop > > (from Zareason) since I couldn't get Stretch stable to work. > > > > Now that Buster is stable, how should I proceed to upgrade to it. So far > I

Wpa_supplicant Error: No such device

2019-07-10 Thread Patrick Bartek
A problem when trying to associate with a wireless router (WPA2). Get the following error when manually executing: wpa_supplicant -i wlx -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf Could not read interface wlx flags: No such device nl80211: Driver does not support authentication/association or con

Re: Buster RC 1 upgrade to stable

2019-07-10 Thread songbird
Tom Browder wrote: > > I had to use Buster RC 1 to successfully install Debian on a new laptop > (from Zareason) since I couldn't get Stretch stable to work. > > Now that Buster is stable, how should I proceed to upgrade to it. So far I > have not found the official Debian doc that describes the co

Buster RC 1 upgrade to stable

2019-07-10 Thread Tom Browder
I had to use Buster RC 1 to successfully install Debian on a new laptop (from Zareason) since I couldn't get Stretch stable to work. Now that Buster is stable, how should I proceed to upgrade to it. So far I have not found the official Debian doc that describes the correct way--and all I've seen o

Re: please stop breaking threads (was: Problem Installing DiscoveryStudio2019 in Buster

2019-07-10 Thread David Wright
On Wed 10 Jul 2019 at 10:25:29 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 08:18:31AM -, Curt wrote: > > [...] > > > Alpine works fine. > > Most probably, yes :-) I'm not certain that it does. I looked at a web page for Alpine http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/alpine-info/misc

Re: new debian install

2019-07-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 10 iul 19, 06:18:10, N D wrote: > Hello, Hello, > I am looking for a Linux distribution that is stable and have just > installed Debian 9 as a windows 7 replacement. Debian 10 was released just a few days ago, you might want to give it a try instead. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wi

Re: chromebook

2019-07-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 10 iul 19, 09:25:02, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > 4. html viewers are known for being exploitable in many and >surprising ways. Thanks, forgot about that one. A recent example: https://efail.de/ In the 'Responsible Disclosure' section there is nice coloured table with popular clients

Re: Problem Installing DiscoveryStudio2019 in Buster

2019-07-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 08:18:31PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > On 08/07/2019 21:13, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Wouldn't surprise me if they parse the output of /sbin/ifconfig eth0 to > > get information to create/validate a license key. And oh boy will THAT > > be fun, if that's the case, now that

Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 10 iul 19, 07:39:54, Curt wrote: > On 2019-07-08, Andy Smith wrote: > > Hi Curt, > > > > On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 05:48:24PM -, Curt wrote: > >> it "amounts to trusting that CPU manufacturer (perhaps with the > >> insistence or mandate of a Nation State's intelligence or law > >> enforce

Re: Libreoffice menu font sizes

2019-07-10 Thread songbird
Siard wrote: ... > Do you have the libreoffice-gtk3 package installed?? > If not, installing it might solve the issue. that was exactly it! thank you so much. :) songbird

Re: buster irqbalance on 4.19.0-5 kernel?

2019-07-10 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 7/10/19, Boyan Penkov wrote: > Hello, > > After the upgrade to 4.19.0-5, the irqbalance package is marked for > autoremoval. While I am not familiar with exactly what it does, > reading here -- https://packages.debian.org/buster/irqbalance -- does > make it seem like a nice feature, and worth

Re: Problem Installing DiscoveryStudio2019 in Buster

2019-07-10 Thread Darac Marjal
On 08/07/2019 21:13, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 03:09:45PM -0500, David Wright wrote: >> On Mon 08 Jul 2019 at 14:55:45 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: >>> On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 02:49:40PM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: It came from the Biovia web site. >>> Like I know w

Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 10 iul 19, 13:52:55, Curt wrote: > > His views shouldn't be "represented" at all. I thought it would be > honest to have something brief, up front, and simple, in the notes > themselves, like: > > For amd64 systems supporting the RDRAND instruction this issue is > avoided by the Debian k

Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-10 Thread David Wright
On Wed 10 Jul 2019 at 13:52:55 (-), Curt wrote: > On 2019-07-10, Andy Smith wrote: > > > Secondly, the reason I asked you what you would like done is that in > > the message I replied to you said that the release notes were > > something that users don't read. But your proposed solution is to

Re: Libreoffice menu font sizes

2019-07-10 Thread Siard
songbird wrote: > the font within the application is larger, but the menu fonts do not > change. not sure why either. i may have broken something somewhere > or the theme i'm using may not be working with that for some reason. > what theme are you using? I tried several themes in MATE, but they

Re: buster irqbalance on 4.19.0-5 kernel?

2019-07-10 Thread Boyan Penkov
On 7/10/19 2:28 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2019-07-10 14:15 -0400, Boyan Penkov wrote: After the upgrade to 4.19.0-5, the irqbalance package is marked for autoremoval. That is correct. While I am not familiar with exactly what it does, reading here -- https://packages.debian.org/buster/ir

Re: buster irqbalance on 4.19.0-5 kernel?

2019-07-10 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2019-07-10 14:15 -0400, Boyan Penkov wrote: > After the upgrade to 4.19.0-5, the irqbalance package is marked for > autoremoval. That is correct. > While I am not familiar with exactly what it does, > reading here -- https://packages.debian.org/buster/irqbalance -- does > make it seem like a

Re: Debian 10 Buster with Radeon FX 580

2019-07-10 Thread Esteban L
Thanks for the reply. I solved this issue by follow the instructions on this website. https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-latest-amd-drivers-on-debian-10-buster On 10.07.19 09:49, Felix Miata wrote: > Esteban L composed on 2019-07-10 09:23 (UTC+0200): > >> I installed Debian, but it boots

buster irqbalance on 4.19.0-5 kernel?

2019-07-10 Thread Boyan Penkov
Hello, After the upgrade to 4.19.0-5, the irqbalance package is marked for autoremoval. While I am not familiar with exactly what it does, reading here -- https://packages.debian.org/buster/irqbalance -- does make it seem like a nice feature, and worth having (and one that 4.19.0-4 made me have..

Re: Upgrade to Buster and perl Device::SerialPort

2019-07-10 Thread Martin McCormick
David Christensen writes: > Post a console session showing the commands issued and the error messages > produced. I'll go you one better. I'll show the code of one of the programs that dies instantly. It uses /dev/ttyACM0 which is the device created when a Uniden scanner radio is plugged in to a

Re: new debian install

2019-07-10 Thread Peter Ehlert
the characters are not intended to show, not even a string of it is for security. I don't know if it can be changed does it accept the password? On 7/9/19 11:18 PM, N D wrote: Hello, I am looking for a Linux distribution that is stable and have just installed Debian 9 as a windows 7

Re: Libreoffice menu font sizes

2019-07-10 Thread songbird
Siard wrote: > songbird: >> Siard: >> > [MATE] System > Preferences > Look and Feel > Appearance > tab 'Fonts'. >> > Set the 'Application font' to the desired font and size. >> >> yes, i have that set and it does not change the office menu font size. > > Strange. It works here. I can show where I i

Re: no sound from MPV

2019-07-10 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Sharon Kimble (2019-07-10 12:13:30) > > Ever since upgrading to buster I've been completely unable to get any > sound out of MPV. And I haven't found any way online of how to > re-enable sound for it either. SMplayer works okay and gives sound, as > does mpd, but MPV views a television

Re: no sound from MPV

2019-07-10 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-10, Sharon Kimble wrote: > Ever since upgrading to buster I've been completely unable to get any > sound out of MPV. And I haven't found any way online of how to > re-enable sound f or it either. SMplayer works okay and gives sound, > as does mpd, but MPV vie ws a television programmes

Re: Upgrading to Buster but keeping Postgresql-9.6

2019-07-10 Thread Phil Endecott
Richard Hector wrote: Another option is to switch to using the pgdg repo for 9.6: https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Apt Thanks Richard, that looks like the best solution. They even have a mailing list. Cheers, Phil.

no sound from MPV

2019-07-10 Thread Sharon Kimble
Ever since upgrading to buster I've been completely unable to get any sound out of MPV. And I haven't found any way online of how to re-enable sound for it either. SMplayer works okay and gives sound, as does mpd, but MPV views a television programmes but no sound. How can I get the sound work

Re: new debian install

2019-07-10 Thread Esteban L
Can you provide a screenshot? Not sure if they are allowed on the mailing list :-) What desktop environment are you using? Does your keyboard input work otherwise? Generally linux systems are stable, I assume you are using debian--since you are in this mailinglist. On July 10, 2019 8:18:10

new debian install

2019-07-10 Thread N D
Hello, I am looking for a Linux distribution that is stable and have just installed Debian 9 as a windows 7 replacement. The first major issue I have come across is when I try to install an app and I'm asked for the password no characters are entered when I type. This also happens when I try t

Re: mutt vs HTML (was: chromebook)

2019-07-10 Thread Reco
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 09:06:32AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 09:31:13AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 10:35:33AM +0900, John Crawley wrote: > > > On Thunderbird the OP was perfectly readable, and I had no idea it > > > wasn't plain text till I checked th

Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-10 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-10, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > After that, it would be *wonderful* to have a well-written, comprehensive > summary of the situation, and all of the available options, and their > benefits and drawbacks, so users can choose the best one for their needs. > I agree. -- "These findings dem

Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-10 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-10, Andy Smith wrote: > Secondly, the reason I asked you what you would like done is that in > the message I replied to you said that the release notes were > something that users don't read. But your proposed solution is to > put more things in the release notes. I said users don't r

Re: Libreoffice menu font sizes

2019-07-10 Thread Siard
songbird: > Siard: > > [MATE] System > Preferences > Look and Feel > Appearance > tab 'Fonts'. > > Set the 'Application font' to the desired font and size. > > yes, i have that set and it does not change the office menu font size. Strange. It works here. I can show where I increased the menu font

Re: chromebook

2019-07-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 09:31:13AM +0300, Reco wrote: > On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 10:35:33AM +0900, John Crawley wrote: > > On Thunderbird the OP was perfectly readable, and I had no idea it > > wasn't plain text till I checked the source. > > It was readable in my mutt too. Still does not make it r

Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:46:33AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > In the release notes in the relevant section (5.1.4) the last > paragraph is: > > See the wiki (https://wiki.debian.org/BoottimeEntropyStarvation) > and DLange's overview of the issue > (https://daniel-lange.com/archives/152

Re: Libreoffice menu font sizes

2019-07-10 Thread Paul Sutton
On 09/07/2019 14:28, Siard wrote: > Paul Sutton: >> [Menu fonts in Libreoffice 6.x] >> [] I can't find the scaling option. > LibreOffice 6 is a gtk3 application. It appears to be following the > gtk3 settings now. > You can set the menu font and font size of all gtk3 applications, > includin

Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-10 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:46:33AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > Further, I would like to know whether the patch will be "baked into the > > kernel" or whether it can be toggled on and/or off at the *user's* > > discretion. I don't remember being clear on this point after reading the >

Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-10 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Curt, On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 09:26:31AM -, Curt wrote: > On 2019-07-10, Andy Smith wrote: > > But, let's say this use of RDRAND to supply boot-time entropy is as > > serious as you argue. What would be your suggested configuration > > I would like Debian to make it clear in the release-n

Re: TPLink WN722N and WN823N can find wireless network but can't connect to it

2019-07-10 Thread Markos
Em 09-07-2019 10:29, Markos escreveu: Hi, I'm trying to use these two adapters on a desktop with Debian 9. I installed the firmware: |apt-get |install| /|firmware-realtek|/| |/|And the Network Manager|/| |/||apt-get |install| /|network-manager-gnome|/||/| I open the applet in |/||/|syst

trying to use an RG003-E antenna socket with my Lenovo Thinkpad running Debian Linux . . .

2019-07-10 Thread Albretch Mueller
I am currently running: # uname -a Linux niggahme 4.9.0-9-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.168-1+deb9u2 (2019-05-13) x86_64 GNU/Linux on a Lenovo Thinkpad X130e (AMD E-450, 4GB RAM): http://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/withdrawnbook/ThinkPad_X131e_WE.pdf https://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Lenovo

Debian Buster VirtualBox guest does not show GUI

2019-07-10 Thread Jari Fredriksson
The GUI starts all right, but just does not show up in RDP session. I wonder if it would work with X.org but with the current setup (vanilla fresh install with Gnome) does not show up. Any ideas? Br. jarif

Re: please stop breaking threads (was: Problem Installing DiscoveryStudio2019 in Buster

2019-07-10 Thread kdall99
Bw, 9.7.2019 21:45 +0200: [a mail with proper threading-relevant headers] Thanks a lot for fixing this!

Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-10 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-10, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi Curt, > > On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 07:59:53AM +, Curt wrote: >> I think these reserves are relevant and pertinent to the patch >> itself and should be revealed to the user, whom we cannot assume >> or expect to follow the technical discussions of the develo

Re: X Resources for emacs

2019-07-10 Thread Joost van Baal-Ilić
Hi Bob, Thanks for reporting your issue. The discussion ideally takes place on the debian-user list. Cc-ed. Thanks, Bye, Joost On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 01:33:44PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > I very glad to have debiandoc-sgml (which I have loved for > years) playing quite nicely with psgml

Re: please stop breaking threads (was: Problem Installing DiscoveryStudio2019 in Buster

2019-07-10 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 08:18:31AM -, Curt wrote: [...] > Alpine works fine. Most probably, yes :-) >There are legions of snobs here, though, who, at the > drop of just about any hat, will suggest you switch to mutt, purge > Network Manager, eradicate Gnome, clear out th

Re: Check your signing key expiration dates!

2019-07-10 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Andrei POPESCU [2019-07-07 20:31 +0300]: > On Du, 07 iul 19, 20:17:41, Teemu Likonen wrote: > > > > You need to update your copy of the keys. Those developers have very > > likely updated the expiration day and moved it again to some point in > > the future. Debian developers' keys can be upda

Re: please stop breaking threads (was: Problem Installing DiscoveryStudio2019 in Buster

2019-07-10 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-09, bw wrote: >>We are beginning to diverge here from the sound technical arguments and >>sober, unemotional discourse for which this forum is renown. > > Come on, that's just not true. This list is full of crap and nobody even There was a certain element of jocularity up there that

Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-10 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Curt, On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 07:59:53AM +, Curt wrote: > I think these reserves are relevant and pertinent to the patch > itself and should be revealed to the user, whom we cannot assume > or expect to follow the technical discussions of the development > team, in the release-notes for Bus

Re: please stop breaking threads (was: Problem Installing DiscoveryStudio2019 in Buster

2019-07-10 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2019-07-10 at 07:51 +0100, Thomas Pircher wrote: > bw wrote: > > You mean a windows-clone email client? > > Looks like you have managed to fix the issue, your replies have a > In-Reply-To header and at least in mutt your replies are now properly > threaded. Thanks for fixing this! Not sur

Re: Debian 10 Buster with Radeon FX 580

2019-07-10 Thread Felix Miata
Esteban L composed on 2019-07-10 09:23 (UTC+0200): > I installed Debian, but it boots to a blinking _ , otherwise dark screen. > Best I can figure, I need the microcode firmware update for the system, > since I saw a mention of that on the text (it was the first line, so > hard to miss). > What

Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-10 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-08, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi Curt, > > On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 05:48:24PM -, Curt wrote: >> it "amounts to trusting that CPU manufacturer (perhaps with the >> insistence or mandate of a Nation State's intelligence or law >> enforcement agencies) has not installed a hidden back door to

Re: chromebook

2019-07-10 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 07:21:39AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 10 iul 19, 10:35:33, John Crawley wrote: > > On 2019-07-10 01:52, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > > Please post only text, not HTML. If your email agent *cannot* do plain > > > text alone, at least configure it to send both p

Debian 10 Buster with Radeon FX 580

2019-07-10 Thread Esteban L
Hello, I installed Debian, but it boots to a blinking _ , otherwise dark screen. Best I can figure, I need the microcode firmware update for the system, since I saw a mention of that on the text (it was the first line, so hard to miss). What steps do I need to do to get my video to work? I will

Re: chromebook

2019-07-10 Thread Joe
On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 07:21:39 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > 2. Some (many?) of us are reading messages on text-only clients. > >This may be for objective or subjective reasons, but it's probably >quite common here. > >Sure, there are ways to display html content, but see 1. > > 3.