Re: Encrypted /boot password has to be entered twice

2020-02-27 Thread john doe
On 2/27/2020 1:25 AM, Guilhem Moulin wrote: > On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 at 19:59:33 +0100, john doe wrote: >> I don't understand why I get this error, the file is there > > Did you triple-check that? :-) `sudo cryptdisks_start sda1_crypt` will > do the checking logic for you, but you can also run the cr

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-27 Thread john doe
On 2/28/2020 6:55 AM, john doe wrote: > On 2/28/2020 2:07 AM, Ted Baker wrote: >> I updated /etc/default/locale, LANG=C.UTF-8, then reboot. >> > > You should use 'dpkg-reconfigureĀ locales'. > > https://wiki.debian.org/Locale > Also the language in Gnome should be configured in Gnome itself or usin

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-27 Thread john doe
On 2/28/2020 2:07 AM, Ted Baker wrote: > I updated /etc/default/locale, LANG=C.UTF-8, then reboot. > You should use 'dpkg-reconfigureĀ locales'. https://wiki.debian.org/Locale -- John Doe

Re: new, not nice web bots disposal

2020-02-27 Thread songbird
Gene Heskett wrote: ... > This library is a joke, the librarian is scared shitless of copyright > law. When I retired, I had an 18 year collection of McGraw-Hill's > Electronics magazine, from which anybody that could read, could get > himself the equ of the best education in electronics availa

[Lynx-dev] ANN: lynx2.9.0dev.5

2020-02-27 Thread Karen Lewellen
sharing this update for interested parties. The current version of lynx is 2.8.9 It's available at https://lynx.invisible-island.net/ ftp://ftp.invisible-island.net/lynx/ 2.9.0 Development & patches: https://lynx.invisible-island.net/current/index.html Files:

set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-27 Thread Ted Baker
I updated /etc/default/locale, LANG=C.UTF-8, then reboot. ted@debian:~$ locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE= LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8" LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"

Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change

2020-02-27 Thread John Kaufmann
On 2020-02-27 09:41, Lee wrote: On 2/27/20, John Kaufmann wrote: ... I'm beginning to get a sense that debian.org has /way/ over-complicated the installation images. I think they don't do a good job of explaining things for newbies - especially the implications of "free software only" (or wh

Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change

2020-02-27 Thread John Kaufmann
On 2020-02-27 03:46, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 27 feb 20, 02:03:56, John Kaufmann wrote: Distribution directories: [1] cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/ [2] cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmwa

Re: This is weird: I can ssh into a box, but I can't access it directly

2020-02-27 Thread Dan Purgert
On Feb 27, 2020, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 01:47:10PM -0500, Dan Purgert wrote: > > Interesting that "root from SSH" would behave differently than "local > > root". That's news to me. > > Well, they run different programs, and read different config files. > A console login us

Re: This is weird: I can ssh into a box, but I can't access it directly

2020-02-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 01:47:10PM -0500, Dan Purgert wrote: > Interesting that "root from SSH" would behave differently than "local > root". That's news to me. Well, they run different programs, and read different config files. A console login uses getty + login, and reads /etc/pam.d/login. An

Re: This is weird: I can ssh into a box, but I can't access it directly

2020-02-27 Thread Dan Purgert
On Feb 27, 2020, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > On 2/26/20 8:52 AM, Dan Purgert wrote: > > Are you ssh'ing in as root? If not, is your user's $HOME on the > > machine's failing disk, or another (remote?) drive? > > and I replied (off-List, and *not* intentionally so): > > Yes. As root. Interesting

Re: new, not nice web bots disposal

2020-02-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 February 2020 10:07:18 Lee wrote: > On 2/27/20, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:25:53PM -0500, Lee wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >> You're advertising your web server in your sig. The "other side" > >> ALREADY KNOWS you have a web server there. > > > > If that

Re: This is weird: I can ssh into a box, but I can't access it directly

2020-02-27 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 2/26/20 8:52 AM, Dan Purgert wrote: Are you ssh'ing in as root? If not, is your user's $HOME on the machine's failing disk, or another (remote?) drive? and I replied (off-List, and *not* intentionally so): Yes. As root. Oh, and one other thing, the thing that brought this to my attention

Re: System unusably slow after Debian upgrade.

2020-02-27 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 03:11:10PM +, G.W. Haywood wrote: > As the box was still running Jessie I had to do the move in two bites. > First move from Jessie to Stretch, then from Stretch to Buster. The > entire process was a bit long-winded and spread over a couple of days, > but s

Re: Net Install: Understanding the wifi drivers

2020-02-27 Thread John Kaufmann
On 2020-02-27 03:33, Andrei POPESCU wrote:> On Mi, 26 feb 20, 15:19:06, John Kaufmann wrote: For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with: (1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso (2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso In case it's not obvious, the "firmware" image is the same as the regular i

Re: multilingual setup ...

2020-02-27 Thread Albretch Mueller
Thank you Greg et al: Well, most people would not want to deal with those are the kinds of complex issues. No wonder all you find online are all kinds of problems while trying to do such things. The romantic, silly side of me still thinks that probably using the JVM you could find a way to hac

Re: All true assertions in a bash find one liner? ...

2020-02-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 05:13:18PM +0100, Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 2/27/20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Do you want to search for all files in ~/java whose names end with > > .java or .txt and which contain the string > > "java.io.UnsupportedEncodingException;" ? > > Yes, I do! Great! > But

Re: multilingual setup ...

2020-02-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 04:56:06PM +0100, Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 2/27/20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Note the key phrase "when I su into a shell". > > That is VERY different from "I want each user to have a different locale > > when they login". > > OK, each user should have "language interf

Re: All true assertions in a bash find one liner? ...

2020-02-27 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 2/27/20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > What part of "tell us the actual problem" did you not understand? > > Oh, wait. I already know the answer to that one: all of it. :( > > Do you want to search for all files in ~/java whose names end with > .java or .txt and which contain the string > "java.io.Un

Re: Problem using reportbug for *FIRST* time

2020-02-27 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/27/2020 08:51 AM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 07:30:31AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: When I attempted to send the bug the response was: For how long would it have been reasonable to continue retrying? You don't retry on a greylist. You wait 20-30-40 minutes and

Re: System unusably slow after Debian upgrade.

2020-02-27 Thread Dan Ritter
G.W. Haywood wrote: > > As the box was still running Jessie I had to do the move in two bites. > First move from Jessie to Stretch, then from Stretch to Buster. The > entire process was a bit long-winded and spread over a couple of days, > but seemed to go smoothly enough. Immediately, the user

Re: multilingual setup ...

2020-02-27 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 2/27/20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Note the key phrase "when I su into a shell". > That is VERY different from "I want each user to have a different locale > when they login". OK, each user should have "language interfacing personas" LIP (to call it something) and after (s)he logs in (s)he will

System unusably slow after Debian upgrade.

2020-02-27 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, Long time Linux user here, very familiar with tools for system administration but somewhat stumped by the behaviour of a system installed by me about six years ago at a local farm. It's an old Intel 'NUC' like this one: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/78577/intel-

Re: All true assertions in a bash find one liner? ...

2020-02-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 04:46:08PM +0100, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > We can't really "see what you mean" until you show us. Why don't you > > just tell us the actual problem? It can't be THAT embarrassing. > > OK, here it is again. You will see that as part of the output you > will see a bunch

Re: All true assertions in a bash find one liner? ...

2020-02-27 Thread Albretch Mueller
> We can't really "see what you mean" until you show us. Why don't you > just tell us the actual problem? It can't be THAT embarrassing. OK, here it is again. You will see that as part of the output you will see a bunch of paths (with the actual matches) that someone were not picked by the -pri

Re: System unusably slow after Debian upgrade.

2020-02-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 03:11:10PM +, G.W. Haywood wrote: > As the box was still running Jessie I had to do the move in two bites. > First move from Jessie to Stretch, then from Stretch to Buster. OK. > but seemed to go smoothly enough. Immediately, the users started to > complain about perf

Re: All true assertions in a bash find one liner? ...

2020-02-27 Thread rhkramer
Not necessarily responding to the appropriate post in this thread, so top posting to make some general comments: * Can you do it in two lines (instead of a one liner)? Three lines? Whatever? If so, if you really want a one liner, develop those multiple lines and then put them all on one l

Re: new, not nice web bots disposal

2020-02-27 Thread Lee
On 2/27/20, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 10:07:18AM -0500, Lee wrote: >> On 2/27/20, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:25:53PM -0500, Lee wrote: >> > >> > [...] >> > >> >> You're advertising your web server in your sig. The "other side" >> >> ALREADY KN

OT: LIbrarian (was: Re: new, not nice web bots disposal)

2020-02-27 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, February 27, 2020 09:35:44 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > This may well be true. But I still doubt its available AT THAT LIBRARY. > Basically she insists on haveing a receipt that proves the library has > legally purchased anything offered to lend. I wonder why she does that? I wonder if

Re: Understanding the two-year release cycle as a desktop user (and a Debian newcomer)

2020-02-27 Thread Joe
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 09:30:36 -0500 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Right. You can also use a CD based Linux such as finnix to shrink an > > existing LVM logical volume (LV), create a new LV for swap, and run > > mkswap to lay down a swap partition on it. > > BTW, you don't need a separate CD or anyt

Re: Understanding the two-year release cycle as a desktop user (and a Debian newcomer)

2020-02-27 Thread Joe
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 08:54:02 +1100 Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > > I'm having trouble understanding how LVM snapshots works on / if it > is outside the LVM. > I don't think anyone has picked this up. Yes, you do need additional space. I've only done it a few times. It basically involves leavi

Re: "package pgm2tiff not found" . . .

2020-02-27 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 10:14:04AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2020-02-27 at 09:56, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 03:41:18PM +0100, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >> Well, partially thank you that did it [...] > > > >> $ date; time apt-file search pgm2t

Re: new, not nice web bots disposal

2020-02-27 Thread Dan Ritter
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 09:35:44AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > This may well be true. But I still doubt its available AT THAT LIBRARY. > > I was talking about the Wikipedia article. Recommended. > There must be alternatives. For example Barnes & Noble has it here [1]

Re: "package pgm2tiff not found" . . .

2020-02-27 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-02-27 at 09:56, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 03:41:18PM +0100, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > [...] > >> Well, partially thank you that did it [...] > >> $ date; time apt-file search pgm2tiff >> Do 27. Feb 15:30:21 CET 2020 > > But we did know this one, didn't we? In

Re: new, not nice web bots disposal

2020-02-27 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 10:07:18AM -0500, Lee wrote: > On 2/27/20, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:25:53PM -0500, Lee wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >> You're advertising your web server in your sig. The "other side" > >> ALREADY KNOWS you have a web server there. > > > > If th

Re: new, not nice web bots disposal

2020-02-27 Thread Lee
On 2/27/20, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:25:53PM -0500, Lee wrote: > > [...] > >> You're advertising your web server in your sig. The "other side" >> ALREADY KNOWS you have a web server there. > > If that "other side" is reading your emails, that is. > > Not a likely scena

Re: multilingual setup ...

2020-02-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 03:45:24PM +0100, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > Is there any chance that this is an X-Y problem? > > If you are referring to: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_problem > > I wonder if your own question/mind is. What could possibly be X-Y > about a multi-lingual set up

Re: "package pgm2tiff not found" . . .

2020-02-27 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 03:41:18PM +0100, Albretch Mueller wrote: [...] > Well, partially thank you that did it [...] > $ date; time apt-file search pgm2tiff > Do 27. Feb 15:30:21 CET 2020 But we did know this one, didn't we? Internet searches (for me) turn empty too. Perhaps pgm2tiff is in th

Re: Problem using reportbug for *FIRST* time

2020-02-27 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 07:30:31AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > When I attempted to send the bug the response was: > > > For how long would it have been reasonable to continue retrying? You don't retry on a greylist. You wait 20-30-40 minutes and try again. For buxtehude.debian.o

Re: new, not nice web bots disposal

2020-02-27 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 09:35:44AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 27 February 2020 09:18:55 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > Had you followed my advice, you'd know by now that the lowest layer > > of your network stack in Linux will throw away any packets arriving > > from the other si

Re: All true assertions in a bash find one liner? ...

2020-02-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 01:40:22PM +0100, Albretch Mueller wrote: > I need to find all files which names satisfy a pattern and contain a > certain string, then from those files I need to printf some metadata, > a la: > > find "${_SDIR}" -type f -iregex .*"${_X}" -printf '"%TD > %TT",%Ts,%s,"%P"\

Re: multilingual setup ...

2020-02-27 Thread Albretch Mueller
Well, it seems there are aspects relating to such matters which are pretty straightforward but some aren't at all. If some application maintainers don't care about such matters (which some politics around the edges) that makes such matters very difficult to handle and maintain. OSs are large, de

Re: All true assertions in a bash find one liner? ...

2020-02-27 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 2/27/20, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 01:40:22PM +0100, Albretch Mueller wrote: >> I need to find all files which names satisfy a pattern and contain a >> certain string, then from those files I need to printf some metadata, >> a la: >> >> find "${_SDIR}" -type f -iregex

Re: "package pgm2tiff not found" . . .

2020-02-27 Thread Albretch Mueller
> There is a program (aka "tool") called tiff2pdf: > > tomas@trotzki:~$ apt-file search tiff2pdf > hylafax-server: /var/spool/hylafax/bin/tiff2pdf > libtiff-doc: /usr/share/doc/libtiff-doc/html/man/tiff2pdf.1.html > libtiff-tools: /usr/bin/tiff2pdf > libtiff-tools: /usr/share/man/man1/tif

Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change

2020-02-27 Thread Lee
On 2/27/20, John Kaufmann wrote: > On 2020-02-26 22:49, Peter Ehlert wrote: >> On 2/26/20 7:20 PM, Lee wrote: >>> On 2/26/20, John Kaufmann wrote: For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with: (1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso (2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso and(3) f

Re: new, not nice web bots disposal

2020-02-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 February 2020 09:18:55 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 08:22:53AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 27 February 2020 03:56:07 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:59:27PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > What i

Re: Understanding the two-year release cycle as a desktop user (and a Debian newcomer)

2020-02-27 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Right. You can also use a CD based Linux such as finnix to shrink an > existing LVM logical volume (LV), create a new LV for swap, and run > mkswap to lay down a swap partition on it. BTW, you don't need a separate CD or anything like that: you can use your initrd for that same purpose. I.e. at

Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change

2020-02-27 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 2/27/20 12:46 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 27 feb 20, 02:03:56, John Kaufmann wrote: On 2020-02-26 22:49, Peter Ehlert wrote: On 2/26/20 7:20 PM, Lee wrote: On 2/26/20, John Kaufmann wrote: For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with: (1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso (2) firmware

Re: new, not nice web bots disposal

2020-02-27 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 08:22:53AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 27 February 2020 03:56:07 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:59:27PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > What if they ignore that RST too? > > > > Read -- at least skim that wikipedia a

Re: new, not nice web bots disposal

2020-02-27 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 08:18:03AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 27 February 2020 03:50:34 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > Alternatively go to your paper library [...] > This library is a joke, the librarian is scared shitless of copyright > law [...] > No, that librarian gets no

Re: Understanding the two-year release cycle as a desktop user (and a Debian newcomer)

2020-02-27 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 11:43:42 +1100 Keith Bainbridge wrote: > OK I am in the process of install debian in vbox. It set up LVM > using the whole partition, and allowed several logical volumes. > > Am I safe to believe that this is what will happen with a SSD when I > start? Yes. > > I got a pr

Re: scp overwriting precaution?

2020-02-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 09:48:40PM -0600, Greg Marks wrote: >for file in "${@}" > do > files="$files $(pwd | sed > 's/\/home\//\/home\//g')/\"$file\"" > done >scp -T -p @[Server IP Address]:"$files" . Complete and utter failure. Actually, you got *one* thing right: y

Re: scp overwriting precaution?

2020-02-27 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 21:48:40 -0600 Greg Marks wrote: > When using scp to copy files from my server to my laptop (both running > Debian 10 and both with the same directory tree), I like to back up > the files in case I discover that I've overwritten a newer version of > a file with an older versio

Re: All true assertions in a bash find one liner? ...

2020-02-27 Thread Mark Allums
On 2/27/2020 6:40 AM, Albretch Mueller wrote: I need to find all files which names satisfy a pattern and contain a certain string, then from those files I need to printf some metadata, a la: Instead of the lines of the first search by the extensions to look like: "12/15/18 12:14:16.00

Problem using reportbug for *FIRST* time

2020-02-27 Thread Richard Owlett
e retry. n - No, save and exit. q - Quit. ? - Display this help. SMTP send failure: (421, b'buxtehude.debian.org: Too much load; please try again later'). Do you want to retry (or else save the report and exit)? [Y|n|q|?]? n Wrote bug report to /tmp/reportbug-timeshift-20200227-5343-vtejhfdd

Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change

2020-02-27 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 10:46:55 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > It might be a good idea to stop building the multiarch image in 2020. > Most users should install amd64 anyway and those that *really* need > i386 are likely able to find the correct image anyway. On the other tentacle, some of us have

Re: new, not nice web bots disposal

2020-02-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 February 2020 03:56:07 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:59:27PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] > > > What if they ignore that RST too? > > Read -- at least skim that wikipedia article (oh, I forgot the ref > in my other mail upthread, sorry. Here it is: > >

Re: new, not nice web bots disposal

2020-02-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 February 2020 03:50:34 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 04:40:45PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] > > > My reasoning too. I'd much druther be a black hole that doesn't even > > have any Hawking Radiation. > > The bigger the hole, the less Hawking radiation :)

Re: All true assertions in a bash find one liner? ...

2020-02-27 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 01:40:22PM +0100, Albretch Mueller wrote: > I need to find all files which names satisfy a pattern and contain a > certain string, then from those files I need to printf some metadata, > a la: > > find "${_SDIR}" -type f -iregex .*"${_X}" -printf '"%TD > %TT",%Ts,%s,"%P"\

Re: "package pgm2tiff not found" . . .

2020-02-27 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 12:56:33PM +0100, Albretch Mueller wrote: > I need to install the packages used by unpaper to help tesseract do its > magic: > > https://manpages.debian.org/jessie/unpaper/unpaper.1 > > Input and output files can be in either .pbm, .pgm or .ppm format, > thus generally

Re: scp overwriting precaution?

2020-02-27 Thread Dan Purgert
On Feb 26, 2020, Greg Marks wrote: > When using scp to copy files from my server to my laptop (both running > Debian 10 and both with the same directory tree), I like to back up > the files in case I discover that I've overwritten a newer version of > a file with an older version. (I seem to make

All true assertions in a bash find one liner? ...

2020-02-27 Thread Albretch Mueller
I need to find all files which names satisfy a pattern and contain a certain string, then from those files I need to printf some metadata, a la: find "${_SDIR}" -type f -iregex .*"${_X}" -printf '"%TD %TT",%Ts,%s,"%P"\n' > "${_TMPFL}" 2>&1 I am trying to do all steps in one go, which I think s

"package pgm2tiff not found" . . .

2020-02-27 Thread Albretch Mueller
I need to install the packages used by unpaper to help tesseract do its magic: https://manpages.debian.org/jessie/unpaper/unpaper.1 Input and output files can be in either .pbm, .pgm or .ppm format, thus generally in .pnm format, as also used by the Linux scanning tools scanimage and scanadf.

Re: ifup && iptables error

2020-02-27 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 09:20:34PM +, William Torrez Corea wrote: > Exactly, i wan't reformulate the question. > > What should I change there to get these errors disappear? > > I'm trying to change some values for example in > > /etc/iptables/rules.v6 > > # Generated by xtables

Re: scp overwriting precaution?

2020-02-27 Thread Jochen Spieker
Greg Marks: > > When using scp to copy files from my server to my laptop (both running > Debian 10 and both with the same directory tree), I like to back up > the files in case I discover that I've overwritten a newer version of > a file with an older version. Fully in the spirit of not actually a

Re: scp overwriting precaution?

2020-02-27 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 09:48:40PM -0600, Greg Marks wrote: When using scp to copy files from my server to my laptop (both running Debian 10 and both with the same directory tree), I like to back up the files in case I discover that I've overwritten a newer version of a file with an older version

Re: Understanding the two-year release cycle as a desktop user (and a Debian newcomer)

2020-02-27 Thread Joe
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 08:59:55 + Brad Rogers wrote: > On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 19:47:35 -0600 > John Hasler wrote: > > Hello John, > > >blindly upgrading nightly causes far more problems than it solves. > > Because that's what gets asked about. Nobody posts saying; > > "I updated lasted nigh

Re: Understanding the two-year release cycle as a desktop user (and a Debian newcomer)

2020-02-27 Thread Joe
On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 19:47:35 -0600 John Hasler wrote: > Andrei writes: > > An entire month without security updates is not the best idea in my > > opinion. > > It appears to me from watching this list that the practice of > blindly upgrading nightly causes far more problems than it solves.

Re: Understanding the two-year release cycle as a desktop user (and a Debian newcomer)

2020-02-27 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 19:47:35 -0600 John Hasler wrote: Hello John, >blindly upgrading nightly causes far more problems than it solves. Because that's what gets asked about. Nobody posts saying; "I updated lasted night, and everything worked!" There's no point. However, I do recognise that yo

Re: new, not nice web bots disposal

2020-02-27 Thread tomas
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:59:27PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > What if they ignore that RST too? Read -- at least skim that wikipedia article (oh, I forgot the ref in my other mail upthread, sorry. Here it is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_Control_Protocol Cheers -- t sig

Re: new, not nice web bots disposal

2020-02-27 Thread tomas
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:25:53PM -0500, Lee wrote: [...] > You're advertising your web server in your sig. The "other side" > ALREADY KNOWS you have a web server there. If that "other side" is reading your emails, that is. Not a likely scenario if that "other side" is some malware running in

Re: new, not nice web bots disposal

2020-02-27 Thread tomas
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 04:40:45PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > My reasoning too. I'd much druther be a black hole that doesn't even have > any Hawking Radiation. The bigger the hole, the less Hawking radiation :) [...] > In that event, and given that a /24 rule caught them, how many ou

Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change

2020-02-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 27 feb 20, 02:03:56, John Kaufmann wrote: > On 2020-02-26 22:49, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > On 2/26/20 7:20 PM, Lee wrote: > > > On 2/26/20, John Kaufmann wrote: > > > > For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with: > > > > (1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso > > > > (2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-ne

Re: Net Install: Understanding the wifi drivers

2020-02-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 26 feb 20, 15:19:06, John Kaufmann wrote: > For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with: > (1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso > (2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso In case it's not obvious, the "firmware" image is the same as the regular image + firmware (i.e. you don't need both).