Re: smart fans

> db(A): 14.9, 15.9 (2), 14.7 [...] > > Here is the HDD BTW > > $ sudo lshw -class disk > *-disk >description: ATA Disk >product: SAMSUNG HD204UI [...] Here [1] it says "Acoustics – Idle 2.5/2.6 Bel, Performance Seek 2.8/2.9 Bel" So what does that mean, the maximum is 2.9 Bel

Re: smart fans

David Christensen wrote: > Nice case. :-) Yeah, I guess :) > The purpose of the plate at the bottom is to form > a thermally isolated chamber for the the power supply. > The unperforated portions of the top surface could be > covered with sound absorbing material. What material would that be?

Re: Debian 11 installer crashed and reboot

On 8/19/2021 3:11 PM, Andy Smith wrote: Hi Chuck, On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 08:04:43AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: After some testing of the Debian 11 installer on Xen (using the debian-11.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso), I find that this image only supports installation into a Xen PV guest, the guest

Re: smart fans

David Christensen wrote: >> But changing the profile (governor) doesn't produce any >> (noticable?) sound level change and also the temperature of >> the CPU and the GPU seem unaffected. > > You will not notice a change in CPU fan temperature or speed > profiles as a function of the Linux

Re: smart fans

On 8/23/21 5:26 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote: David Christensen wrote: Nice case. :-) Yeah, I guess :) The purpose of the plate at the bottom is to form a thermally isolated chamber for the the power supply. The unperforated portions of the top surface could be covered with sound absorbing

Re: smart fans

On 8/23/21 5:05 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote: David Christensen wrote: But changing the profile (governor) doesn't produce any (noticable?) sound level change and also the temperature of the CPU and the GPU seem unaffected. You will not notice a change in CPU fan temperature or speed profiles as a

Re: smart fans

Thomas Schmitt wrote: > If nothing else helps to find the culprit, then consider to > unplug all case fans to prove that it's not them. A bit more > adventurous is to run the CPU without fan for a few seconds. Maybe there is an adaptor so one can run them from an USB charger or something ... >

Re: smart fans

With the 'powersave' governor and all 5 fans "Silent", the CPU temperature, for random/normal computer use, is in (33.25 51.125) and ditto GPU (40 42), and with the 'performance' governor it is ... exactly the same. https://dataswamp.org/~incal/conf/.zsh/misc-hw -- underground experts united

Re: smart fans

On 8/23/21 3:42 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 8/23/21 2:25 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Emanuel Berg photographed: https://dataswamp.org/~incal/ebchw/fan-top.jpg Conspicuously absent are drive cages; but I do see drive case mounting screw holes.  If drives are not needed, the mounting

Re: smart fans

tomas wrote: > I say "back then" above, but there seem to be design > parameters which still favour brushes. My reasonably recent > power drill still has brushes. The 18V cordless power tools from Ryobi that I like come in several versions each and the most expensive ones are brushless, often.

Re: smart fans

David Christensen wrote: > Changing settings and making measurements at idle is > a starting point. You should also put the machine under load > and make measurements. Yes, but I know already that even with all fans (2*CPU cooling tower, 3*case) at "Silent" and with the powersave governor it

Re: smart fans

Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > If you take the option for let say "performance" then it > will be at max speed so the system is the coolest possible > all the time. But changing the profile (governor) doesn't produce any (noticable?) sound level change and also the temperature of the

Re: smart fans

On 8/23/21 2:25 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Emanuel Berg photographed: https://dataswamp.org/~incal/ebchw/fan-top.jpg The case fans look like they would produce a lot of wind if really running at full speed. Whatever, i'd make a closer photo, unplug them, listen how much noise is missing,

Re: smart fans

David Christensen wrote: > - Set the Linux CPU governor to "powersave". Nothing happens when I do that. > Try the QFan "Silent" profile Same. > What about GPU fan(s)? Power supply fan(s)? > What about HDD's? Yeah, I thought about that. I listened to the fan I had outside of the computer, put

Re: smart fans

On 8/23/21 1:44 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Emanuel Berg wrote: [...] maybe it isn't the case fans or the CPU cooling tower fans that make the sound anyway! If nothing else helps to find the culprit, then consider to unplug all case fans to prove that it's not them. A bit more adventurous

Re: smart fans

On 8/23/21 12:36 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 12:20:34PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: [...] Thank you. Do you know where there is information that explains how a BLDC computer fan motor responds to variable supply voltage? Not specifically for computer fans, and

Re: smart fans

On 8/23/21 11:41 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: David Christensen wrote: - Set the Linux CPU governor to "powersave". Nothing happens when I do that. Try the QFan "Silent" profile Same. What about GPU fan(s)? Power supply fan(s)? What about HDD's? Yeah, I thought about that. I listened to

[marathon.duran...@gmail.com: Libinput Error]

Resending, didn't make it to the list for some reason. - Forwarded message from SDA - Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 13:38:12 -0400 From: SDA Subject: Libinput Error To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Hi, I've been getting the following messages in the journal-log even before I installed Debian

Re: smart fans

Hi, Emanuel Berg photographed: > https://dataswamp.org/~incal/ebchw/fan-top.jpg The case fans look like they would produce a lot of wind if really running at full speed. Whatever, i'd make a closer photo, unplug them, listen how much noise is missing, and then plug them in again guided by the

Re: smart fans

Hi, Emanuel Berg wrote: > [...] maybe it isn't > the case fans or the CPU cooling tower fans that make the > sound anyway! If nothing else helps to find the culprit, then consider to unplug all case fans to prove that it's not them. A bit more adventurous is to run the CPU without fan for a few

Re: smart fans

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 12:20:34PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: [...] > Thank you. Do you know where there is information that explains how > a BLDC computer fan motor responds to variable supply voltage? Not specifically for computer fans, and the controller electronics (which is a must

Re: smart fans

On 8/23/21 1:03 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 02:02:45PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: [...] What is "BLDC"? Brushless (electric) DC motor [1]. Back Then (TM ;-), to turn an electric motor around you had to switch around the magnetic field in the coils at (about) the

Re: smart fans

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 08:57:09PM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: > tomas wrote: > > > [...] My reasonably recent power drill still has brushes. > > The 18V cordless power tools from Ryobi that I like come in > several versions each and the most expensive ones are > brushless, often. My power tools

Re: Debian 11 installer crashed and reboot

On 8/21/2021 7:06 PM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: On 8/21/2021 5:52 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, there might be an easier way (still depending on whether such simple file replacements are tolerated by the booting system):    # Choose the desired new files

Re: how to change debian installation mirror list?

Hi, Fred 1 wrote: > hope I can change it and rebuild the netinstall ISO with jigdo maybe ? Jigdo is not suitable for making changes to the ISO which it reconstructs. (It is rather suitable for reducing the download effort with ISOs which are slightly changed towards an ISO which you already

Re: how to change debian installation mirror list?

Fred 1 writes: I would like to know where the installation pulls the  list of Debian mirrors. hope I can change it and rebuild the netinstall ISO with jigdo maybe ? It would be nice if I could manually add a custom one during install, but I didn't see such option, strictly just pick from

Re: how to change debian installation mirror list?

On 24/08/2021 02:00, Dan Ritter wrote: Fred 1 wrote: I would like to know where the installation pulls the  list of Debian mirrors. hope I can change it and rebuild the netinstall ISO with jigdo maybe ? It would be nice if I could manually add a custom one during install, but I didn't see

Re: how to change debian installation mirror list?

Fred 1 wrote: > I would like to know where the installation pulls the  list of Debian > mirrors. > > hope I can change it and rebuild the netinstall ISO with jigdo maybe ? > > It would be nice if I could manually add a custom one during install, but I > didn't see such option, strictly just

Re: how to change debian installation mirror list?

On Tue 24 Aug 2021 at 01:36:41 +1000, Fred 1 wrote: > I would like to know where the installation pulls the  list of Debian > mirrors. > > hope I can change it and rebuild the netinstall ISO with jigdo maybe ? > > It would be nice if I could manually add a custom one during install, but I >

Re: how to change debian installation mirror list?

Am Montag, 23. August 2021, 17:36:41 CEST schrieb Fred 1: Hi, you do not need to reinstall. You will find a list of debian mirrors on the website of debian. Then you can entry or edit the mirror in the file /etc/apt/sources.list. You can also use deb.debian.org as debian repo in this file.

how to change debian installation mirror list?

I would like to know where the installation pulls the  list of Debian mirrors. hope I can change it and rebuild the netinstall ISO with jigdo maybe ? It would be nice if I could manually add a custom one during install, but I didn't see such option, strictly just pick from the list

Re: multiples problèmes avec proftpd depuis upgrade bullseye sur serveur :-(

Hello Charles ^^) Le 22/08/2021 à 18:24, Charles DAVID a écrit : Salut, Tu as regardé si le module mod_tls était activé dans /etc/proftpd/modules.conf ? zieuté et effectivement la conf à changé entre les deux versions et maintenant le module tls est désactivé par défaut. donc activé et

Re: Bullseye sddm autologin

El 2021-08-23 a las 10:36 -0300, Debian escribió: > En dos sistemas distintos, la actualización de buster a bullseye se ha > cargado el inicio automático (auto login) de sddm en la sesión del usuario > predefinido. > > La configuración de /etc/sddm.conf sgue siendo la que funcionaba con buster:

Bullseye sddm autologin

Buen día. En dos sistemas distintos, la actualización de buster a bullseye se ha cargado el inicio automático (auto login) de sddm en la sesión del usuario predefinido. La configuración de /etc/sddm.conf sgue siendo la que funcionaba con buster:

Bullseye sddm autologin

Buen día. En dos sistemas distintos, la actualización de buster a bullseye se ha cargado el inicio automático (auto login) de sddm en la sesión del usuario predefinido. La configuración de /etc/sddm.conf sgue siendo la que funcionaba con buster:

Re: Sid: Korean input

didier gaumet writes: > Hello, > > Disclaimer: I have never done this for korean but I have done it for > chinese (I am only able to type "sun" in chinese in order to verify it > is functional) > > I would not bother with under-the-hood manipulations: install the task- > korean and

Re: Sid: Korean input

Hello, Disclaimer: I have never done this for korean but I have done it for chinese (I am only able to type "sun" in chinese in order to verify it is functional) I would not bother with under-the-hood manipulations: install the task- korean and task-korean-desktop packages. this will take care

Re: nvme SSD and poor performance

On 23/08/2021 13:09, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: If you don't have a NVMe-capable Windows PC at hand, you can download an evaluation version of Windows 10 from Microsoft¹ and install it on separate storage device, just to update SSD firmware. Fill the form with gibberish. Microsoft Product Key

Re: Sid: Korean input

Hellow! Grzesiek writes: > Hi there, > > I was asked to install Korean input on XFCE4 environment. I have never > done this before and I do not speak Korean. > > First question is if it is possible to get Korean input using standard > US keyboard? > > I tried to follow this manual: >

Re: nvme SSD and poor performance

On 23.08.2021 13:46, Pierre Willaime wrote: Le 20/08/2021 à 19:45, Alexander V. Makartsev a écrit : That looks abnormal to me. Have you tried to update SSD firmware¹ and BIOS for your Dell PC? [1] https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=0n4c4 Thanks all

Audio device got stuck!

I just dist-upgraded against testing, and after the upgrade, MPlayer started to report > Audio device got stuck! over and over again (about once or twice a second, I think) during playback of any file with audio, while not actually producing any audible sound. The solution to this turns out to

Sid: Korean input

Hi there, I was asked to install Korean input on XFCE4 environment. I have never done this before and I do not speak Korean. First question is if it is possible to get Korean input using standard US keyboard? I tried to follow this manual:

Re: mouse pointer in changes unwanted

On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 17:15:33 -0600 Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 23:45:07 +0200 > "sp...@caiway.net" wrote: > > > I use sddm as display manager, when this is started I get my chosen > > big green cursor but when I log in it changes to a small red > > mouse pointer > > > > When I

Cannot start unprivileged container without root mapping

Hello, starting this container on a stock Debian 11 Bullseye errors out. It seems to me it should be supported, from this comment and thread: . However, changing the config to match that POC gives the same error. What's missing? Should

Re: nvme SSD and poor performance

Le 20/08/2021 à 19:45, Alexander V. Makartsev a écrit : That looks abnormal to me. Have you tried to update SSD firmware¹ and BIOS for your Dell PC? [1] https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=0n4c4 Thanks all again for your precious answers. I will try

Re: smart fans

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 02:02:45PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: [...] > What is "BLDC"? Brushless (electric) DC motor [1]. Back Then (TM ;-), to turn an electric motor around you had to switch around the magnetic field in the coils at (about) the right time. This was accomplished by sliding

Re: smart fans

Le dimanche 22 août 2021 à 23:26 +0200, Emanuel Berg a écrit : > > Yeah, or replace the 3-pins with 4-pins? [...] If you already have 4-pins fans available or are willing to invest in buying them, it would probably be the best solution Good luck :-)

Re: Buster to Bullseye upgrade problem

On Sun 22 Aug 2021, at 15:37, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 22 Aug 2021 at 13:18:38 (+0100), Gareth Evans wrote: > > On Sun 22 Aug 2021, at 05:36, David Wright wrote: > > > On Fri 20 Aug 2021 at 14:13:55 (+0100), Gareth Evans wrote: > > > > > There is also no explanation in term.log, syslog or

Re: serveur Debian testing avec deux ethernet (et routage)

Bonjour Le 23/08/2021 à 08:40, Olivier a écrit : Il faut : activer l'IP forwarding (https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-turn-on-off-ip-forwarding-in-linux ) configurer le NAT (avec IPTables ou équivalent) Dans Debian & Co

Re: serveur Debian testing avec deux ethernet (et routage)

Il faut : activer l'IP forwarding ( https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-turn-on-off-ip-forwarding-in-linux) configurer le NAT (avec IPTables ou équivalent) Slts Le dim. 22 août 2021 à 22:07, Basile Starynkevitch a écrit : > Bonjour la liste > > A la maison (de geek) j'ai plusieurs ordinateurs -tous