Strange error!

2022-11-24 Thread Joe B
Hello, I don't know if this is the wrong form but I'm using dwm and trying to add the centermaster patch but I get errors --- - joe@debian:~/dwm$ sudo make install clean - dwm build options: - CFLAGS = -std=c99 -pedantic -Wall -Wno-deprecated-declarations -Os -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/includ

Re: just saying

2022-11-24 Thread David
On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 06:07, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 12:01:52AM +0100, Mario Marietto wrote: For most users it makes no real difference using closed or open source code [...] This is a very dangerous fallacy. Free software does make a difference for all. I have i

Re: just saying

2022-11-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 12:28:00AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 09:03:00PM +, mick.crane wrote: > > I love open source, more than you might think, but I have a niggling feeling > > it's been infiltrated to make user control difficult. > > If I was a spook it's

Re: just saying

2022-11-24 Thread tomas
On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 06:17:23PM -0500, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 16:05:31 -0500 > Jeremy Hendricks wrote: > > > I have no idea what you mean. It’s open source and you can analyze > > the code line by line. > > Does that include the blobs we're forced to run to make

Re: just saying

2022-11-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 12:01:52AM +0100, Mario Marietto wrote: > For most users it makes no real difference using closed or open source > code [...] This is a very dangerous fallacy. Free software does make a difference for all. I have installed and maintained free software for many friends who a

Re: just saying

2022-11-24 Thread tomas
On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 09:03:00PM +, mick.crane wrote: > I love open source, more than you might think, but I have a niggling feeling > it's been infiltrated to make user control difficult. That is no different from everything else in society. There are spooks, there are folks with good inten

Re: just saying

2022-11-24 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 08:08:46PM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 7:28 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > ... > > I think the most obvious counter-argument is that it would be a waste of > > effort and human assets to put exploits in open source software where > > they stand

Re: just saying

2022-11-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 06:17:23PM -0500, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 16:05:31 -0500 > Jeremy Hendricks wrote: > > > I have no idea what you mean. It’s open source and you can analyze > > the code line by line. > > Does that include the blobs we're forced to run to make

Failed to open device

2022-11-24 Thread William Torrez Corea
Have problem with my printer HP Deskjet 3510 series Output format is not set, using pnm as a default. > scanimage: open of device escl:http://127.0.0.1:6 failed: Out of > memory > *Can print, copy but I can't scan. * *XSANE 0.999* *Debian 5.10.149-2 (2022-10-21) x86_64 GNU/Linux* -- Wit

Re: just saying

2022-11-24 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 7:28 PM Andy Smith wrote: > ... > I think the most obvious counter-argument is that it would be a waste of > effort and human assets to put exploits in open source software where > they stand a good chance of being found, while there is so much closed > source software (fir

Re: just saying

2022-11-24 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Thu, Nov 24, 2022, 6:28 PM Mario Marietto wrote: > Everytime I say to someone That are skilled I always get the same reply. > Im not. So what ? there arent skilled people all around anymore ? there are > many. but likely they dont want to be called like this. Most of the times > there isnt a l

Fwd: just saying

2022-11-24 Thread Mario Marietto
Its not totally wrong to think that the software do what it wants to do even if you dont want. A software is a piece of code that respect the directives of the creator, so its easy that it did what he wants and not what you want. At least partially. -- Forwarded message - Da: Andy

Re: just saying

2022-11-24 Thread Mario Marietto
Everytime I say to someone That are skilled I always get the same reply. Im not. So what ? there arent skilled people all around anymore ? there are many. but likely they dont want to be called like this. Most of the times there isnt a large numbers of choices when the time to chose a job is came.

Re: just saying

2022-11-24 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 09:03:00PM +, mick.crane wrote: > I love open source, more than you might think, but I have a niggling feeling > it's been infiltrated to make user control difficult. > If I was a spook it's what I'd do. > Please prove me wrong. Conspiracy theories aren't falsif

Re: just saying

2022-11-24 Thread David
On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 00:51, Mario Marietto wrote: you missed the fact that Im not Talking about you or about the users that are very skilled. I use linux from the '90s and I never used one of the tools you are using. But im not a total newbie. So,think About how many categories of users

Re: just saying

2022-11-24 Thread Mario Marietto
you missed the fact that Im not Talking about you or about the users that are very skilled. I use linux from the '90s and I never used one of the tools you are using. But im not a total newbie. So,think About how many categories of users can use linux without to have a good understanding about what

Re: just saying

2022-11-24 Thread Larry Martell
On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 4:53 PM Alain D D Williams wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 04:05:31PM -0500, Jeremy Hendricks wrote: > > I have no idea what you mean. It’s open source and you can analyze the > code > > line by line. > > Very true ... but how much code have you analyzed line by line Ov

Re: just saying

2022-11-24 Thread paulf
On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 16:05:31 -0500 Jeremy Hendricks wrote: > I have no idea what you mean. It’s open source and you can analyze > the code line by line. Does that include the blobs we're forced to run to make Nvidia cards run really well? I also have to wonder why Ubuntu (a Debian derivative) s

Re: just saying

2022-11-24 Thread David
On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 00:01, Mario Marietto wrote: For most users it makes no real difference using closed or open source code,because yes,they can look inside the code,but to understand what the code does they need a master degree. So,for all these users,maybe it's a better idea to use t

Re: just saying

2022-11-24 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 10:43:19PM +, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > > > > > Even if you have it can be very hard to find carefully constructed back > > doors. > > Shrug.. as opposed to installing closed source programmes where you know you > are spied upon ? Which may of course have back doors

Re: just saying

2022-11-24 Thread Mario Marietto
For most users it makes no real difference using closed or open source code,because yes,they can look inside the code,but to understand what the code does they need a master degree. So,for all these users,maybe it's a better idea to use the closed source OS,at least they will be able to use the OS

Re: just saying

2022-11-24 Thread Jeremy Hendricks
This is my point of view also. On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 5:43 PM Peter von Kaehne wrote: > > > > > Even if you have it can be very hard to find carefully constructed back > doors. > > Shrug.. as opposed to installing closed source programmes where you know > you are spied upon ? Which may of cours

Re: just saying

2022-11-24 Thread Peter von Kaehne
> > Even if you have it can be very hard to find carefully constructed back doors. Shrug.. as opposed to installing closed source programmes where you know you are spied upon ? Which may of course have back doors but thanks tk being closed you I’ll not even learn about? > > Some code

Re: just saying

2022-11-24 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 04:05:31PM -0500, Jeremy Hendricks wrote: > I have no idea what you mean. It’s open source and you can analyze the code > line by line. Very true ... but how much code have you analyzed line by line ? Even if you have it can be very hard to find carefully constructed back

Re: just saying

2022-11-24 Thread Jeremy Hendricks
I have no idea what you mean. It’s open source and you can analyze the code line by line. On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 4:03 PM mick.crane wrote: > I love open source, more than you might think, but I have a niggling > feeling it's been infiltrated to make user control difficult. > If I was a spook it

just saying

2022-11-24 Thread mick.crane
I love open source, more than you might think, but I have a niggling feeling it's been infiltrated to make user control difficult. If I was a spook it's what I'd do. Please prove me wrong. mick

Re: Buster->Bullseye scrambled xsane settings

2022-11-24 Thread mick.crane
On 2022-11-24 07:24, Charlie Gibbs wrote: On 2022-11-23 15:35, Peter von Kaehne wrote: is there another scanning package I could use in the meantime? My scanning needs are very simple, black and white and occasional only. I use gnome’s simple-scan. It works well enough for me. Including us

Re: Trouble with ansible and apt. Is this a known problem?

2022-11-24 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Wed, Nov 23, 2022, 5:26 PM David Wright wrote: > On Wed 23 Nov 2022 at 20:18:43 (+0100), Nathanael Schweers wrote: > > > It doesn't look like this exact problem is known at > https://github.com/search?q=org%3Aansible+X509_V_FLAG_CB_ISSUER_CHECK+is%3Aissue&type=issues, > but there are a few sug

Re: Installing Tomcat 10

2022-11-24 Thread Amn
Yes, you are right. Thanks! Copy and Past, humm, I'll be more careful next time. On 11/24/22 8:06 a.m., Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 9:33 PM Amn wrote: In my Debian 11, I entered this command : wget https://downloads.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-10/v10.0.18/bin/apache-tomcat-1

Re: Installing Tomcat 10

2022-11-24 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 9:33 PM Amn wrote: > > In my Debian 11, I entered this command : > wget > https://downloads.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-10/v10.0.18/bin/apache-tomcat-10.0.18.tar.gz > > After that I get this message > > --2022-11-23 21:24:54-- > https://downloads.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-10

Re: Debian 11 - Remove sid and go back to stable

2022-11-24 Thread songbird
Georgi Naplatanov wrote: ... > - install needed packages you uninstalled in previous step. In this > step Debian will install packages from testing and you probably won't > have problems. > > Good luck! what i would do before anything else is create a new partition with plenty of space and