Running 32 bit apps on 64 bit debian

2023-11-18 Thread Van Snyder
I'm trying run 32 bit LinuxSusser on 64 bit Debian 12 bookworm. When I try to run it, I get ./LinuxSusser: Command not found. "ls -l ./LinuxSusser" respnds -rwxr-xr-x 1 vsnyder vsnyder 12698092 Feb 8 2013 LinuxSusser* "dpkg --print-architecture" responds amd64 "dpkg --print-foreign-architectu

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 19:20:49 + Joe wrote: Hello Joe, >currently, selecting an email in the list marks it as read, which is not Can be altered in Prefs. Display; Summaries Message list tab "Mark message as read" section. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}"

Re: Part II dd copy destroyed DVD

2023-11-18 Thread tomas
On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 10:38:16PM -0500, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 10:17 PM Max Nikulin wrote: > > > On 18/11/2023 23:35, Marco Moock wrote: > > > it maybe a stupid DRM? > > > > ... or a blank disk because nothing has been written there. > > > > AW: Anybody familiar

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-18 Thread David Wright
On Sat 18 Nov 2023 at 23:24:25 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-11-18 00:20:25 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 17 Nov 2023 at 13:30:32 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2023-11-16 14:04:29 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Thu 16 Nov 2023 at 13:02:28 (+0100), Vincent Lefev

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-18 Thread David Wright
On Sat 18 Nov 2023 at 23:33:59 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-11-18 09:18:56 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > The "6.1.0-" part comes from the upstream release series. All the > > kernel images containing "6.1.0-" in this section should come from the > > same upstream series (6.1.x), and

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-18 Thread David Wright
On Sat 18 Nov 2023 at 15:29:51 (+0100), steve wrote: > Le 18-11-2023, à 09:18:56 -0500, Greg Wooledge a écrit : > > On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 12:24:30AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > On Fri 17 Nov 2023 at 14:07:54 (+), Tixy wrote: > > > > At time of writing, that depended on package in stable

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread David Wright
On Sun 19 Nov 2023 at 04:29:57 (+), Tim Woodall wrote: > On Sat, 18 Nov 2023, Joe wrote: > > > If this area is likely to be the issue, try telnet to the IMAP server > > using port 143, you should get back a list of capabilities which may > > help. Oddly, though I'm using port 993 to my local s

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-18 Thread Tim Woodall
On Tue, 14 Nov 2023, Vincent Lefevre wrote: To my surprise, reportbug asks me to use bullseye-backports (= oldstable-backports) on my bookworm (= stable) machine: Your version (6.1.55-1) of linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64 appears to be out of date. The following newer release(s) are available in the

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread Tim Woodall
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023, Joe wrote: If this area is likely to be the issue, try telnet to the IMAP server using port 143, you should get back a list of capabilities which may help. Oddly, though I'm using port 993 to my local server, it does not return any information from that port, only on 143. Pr

Re: Part II dd copy destroyed DVD

2023-11-18 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 10:17 PM Max Nikulin wrote: > On 18/11/2023 23:35, Marco Moock wrote: > > it maybe a stupid DRM? > > ... or a blank disk because nothing has been written there. > > AW: Anybody familiar with dd (copy)? Sat, 4 Nov 2023 13:28:16 + > > https://lists.debian.org/msgid-searc

Re: Part II dd copy destroyed DVD

2023-11-18 Thread Max Nikulin
On 18/11/2023 23:35, Marco Moock wrote: it maybe a stupid DRM? ... or a blank disk because nothing has been written there. AW: Anybody familiar with dd (copy)? Sat, 4 Nov 2023 13:28:16 + https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/as8pr10mb742781d572af09e5dc874f1dc5...@as8pr10mb7427.eurprd10.pro

Re: Part II dd copy destroyed DVD

2023-11-18 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 11/18/23, Marco Moock wrote: > Am 18.11.2023 um 15:42:57 Uhr schrieb Schwibinger Michael: > >> I put in a "good" DVD. >> dd if=/dev/dvd of=/path/to/dvdcopy.iso >> is working and I can convert the ISO >> But I put in the damaged DVD >> dd cannot start. > > What is the error message? > > Are you

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread jeremy ardley
On 19/11/23 08:04, jeremy ardley wrote: On 19/11/23 01:59, Alex wrote: IMAP clients will therefore keep messages on the IMAP server and not delete them unless you specifically tell them to, for example via right-click -> delete. A client can also alter messages retained on a server or ev

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread jeremy ardley
On 19/11/23 01:59, Alex wrote: IMAP clients will therefore keep messages on the IMAP server and not delete them unless you specifically tell them to, for example via right-click -> delete. A client can also alter messages retained on a server or event insert new messages. This is interest

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-18 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-11-18 09:18:56 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > The "6.1.0-" part comes from the upstream release series. All the > kernel images containing "6.1.0-" in this section should come from the > same upstream series (6.1.x), and should have basically the same feature > set, with no major changes.

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-18 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-11-18 00:20:25 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 17 Nov 2023 at 13:30:32 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2023-11-16 14:04:29 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > On Thu 16 Nov 2023 at 13:02:28 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > In any case, if a package is renamed (which particula

Re: Does reporting bugs from inside the live CD work?

2023-11-18 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 22:07:46 +0100 dub...@grey-panther.net wrote: > Anyway, I ran the reportbug program with the cdimage.debian.org > meta-package, as described at https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting, > however my bug doesn't show up in the bugtracker, even though it has > been several days now

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 19:20:49 + Joe wrote: > Claws cannot compose HTML emails, which may be a showstopper for you. > It can display HTML, though I always use plain text. If I really need > to see HTML, such as when an unsubscribe link is buried in 100K of > useless markup, I use a webmail clie

Re: Fetching local mail

2023-11-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 03:58:20PM -0500, Pocket wrote: > Will this work? > > symlink /var/mail/paulf to /home/paulf/Mail/in > > ln -vs /home/paulf/Mail/in /var/mail/paulf I wouldn't expect it to work. Most programs that try to deliver to an mbox file like /var/mail/username will try to "dot-lo

Does reporting bugs from inside the live CD work?

2023-11-18 Thread dubser
Hi all, I tried to report the bug that in the live Gnome CD, if one starts the installer, one is asked for a password, that is (as far as I can tell) not documented anywhere inside the CD: https://kdrive.infomaniak.com/app/share/545250/a4c87792-3ed2-4a70-bc1c-ae629842f9cb/preview/image/876245 Any

Re: Fetching local mail

2023-11-18 Thread Pocket
On 11/18/23 07:44, Paul M Foster wrote: Folks: After using claws-mail for a number of years, I'm testing the idea of going back to mutt and fetchmail. One problem I've encountered is how to get local mail in /var/mail/paulf into mutt's inbox at /home/paulf/Mail/in. I could run a POP server, a

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread Joe
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 08:58:41 -0800 Peter Ehlert wrote: > thread back from the dead: > first, thanks for all of the input and wise suggestions > > I am going crazy with Thunderbird, and Claws too. > Now Claws has a calendar add-on, did not try it but maybe it will > suffice. > > My longtime web

Re: UFW/GFW Doesn't start up after running previously

2023-11-18 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 10:13:43 -0500 marathon wrote: > > iptables -n -L > > > > If you see this, you have no firewall at all, you are wide open, and > > should run some ifw command to bring the firewall up: > > It works fine when its turned on manually, past experience using it > on Debian this

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread Alex
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 08:58:41 -0800 Peter Ehlert wrote: > Question: with IMAP is it feasible for a mail client to Leave > messages on the server? That's why IMAP exists to begin with. IMAP was made to make it possible for multiple clients to manage the same mailbox[1]. IMAP clients will therefor

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-18 Thread Anssi Saari
Charles Kroeger writes: >> If you ever do find one, please let me know. The lack of such a thing is >> the primary reason why I don't do E-mail on Android *at all*. > > https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail > > I use this. It is what you want. I proposed it already but apparently it doesn't do "prop

Re: Part II dd copy destroyed DVD

2023-11-18 Thread Arno Lehmann
Good afternoon, Am 18.11.2023 um 16:42 schrieb Schwibinger Michael: Good afternoon I m sorry again. dd does not work. I put in a "good" DVD. dd if=/dev/dvd of=/path/to/dvdcopy.iso is working and I can convert the ISO But I put in the damaged DVD dd cannot start. again, you forgot to explain

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread peter ehlert
damn! I forgot... not able to receive on my POP mail accounts! now using the hateful Gmail... maybe that's why Thunderbird can't use a mailing list, they don't trust their own email app. Eff Them! On 11/18/23 08:58, Peter Ehlert wrote: thread back from the dead: first, thanks for all of the in

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread Peter Ehlert
thread back from the dead: first, thanks for all of the input and wise suggestions I am going crazy with Thunderbird, and Claws too. Now Claws has a calendar add-on, did not try it but maybe it will suffice. My longtime web and email host support have been struggling to help me, Kudos to webmas

Re: Part II dd copy destroyed DVD

2023-11-18 Thread Marco Moock
Am 18.11.2023 um 15:42:57 Uhr schrieb Schwibinger Michael: > I put in a "good" DVD. > dd if=/dev/dvd of=/path/to/dvdcopy.iso > is working and I can convert the ISO > But I put in the damaged DVD > dd cannot start. What is the error message? Are you sure the DVD is broken or is it maybe a stupid

Re: Fetching local mail

2023-11-18 Thread Dan Ritter
Paul M Foster wrote: > Also worth noting that I have exim installed, which handles the cron job > emails, and puts them, by default into the standard location, > /var/mail/paulf. Missed this. You can either have exim hand off to maildrop, or deliver where you want via a .forward file in your $HO

Re: Fetching local mail

2023-11-18 Thread Dan Ritter
Paul M Foster wrote: > On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 09:29:02AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Paul M Foster wrote: > > > After using claws-mail for a number of years, I'm testing the idea of > > > going > > > back to mutt and fetchmail. One problem I've encountered is how to get > > > local mail in

Part II dd copy destroyed DVD

2023-11-18 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Good afternoon I m sorry again. dd does not work. I put in a "good" DVD. dd if=/dev/dvd of=/path/to/dvdcopy.iso is working and I can convert the ISO But I put in the damaged DVD dd cannot start. How about: dvdread ddrescue debiandvdbackup acidrip isobuster and wine. Second:How can I use dd and

Re: Fetching local mail

2023-11-18 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 10:15:42AM -0500 schrieb Paul M Foster: > On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 09:29:02AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Paul M Foster wrote: > > > After using claws-mail for a number of years, I'm testing the idea of > > > going > > > back to mutt and fetchmail. One problem I've enco

Re: Fetching local mail

2023-11-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 10:15:42AM -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: > This would be okay if all my mail was delivered to that spool file, but it > isn't. Fetchmail hands off (internet) mail to maildrop, which puts in my > spool file at /home/paulf/Mail/in. That's where mutt thinks my spool file > is. On

Re: Fetching local mail

2023-11-18 Thread Paul M Foster
On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 09:29:02AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > Paul M Foster wrote: > > After using claws-mail for a number of years, I'm testing the idea of going > > back to mutt and fetchmail. One problem I've encountered is how to get > > local mail in /var/mail/paulf into mutt's inbox at /hom

Re: UFW/GFW Doesn't start up after running previously

2023-11-18 Thread songbird
marathon wrote: > Using Debian Bookworm, on Lenovo X280 laptop. Each time after cold startup > or from suspend, I've found the ufw software is turned off and blocks all > network activity in that state. > Does anyone have any idea why? Can I provide further information? > > Thanks. did you mak

Re: UFW/GFW Doesn't start up after running previously

2023-11-18 Thread marathon
On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 07:49:32AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 08:25:10 -0500 > marathon wrote: > > > Using Debian Bookworm, on Lenovo X280 laptop. Each time after cold > > startup or from suspend, I've found the ufw software is turned off > > and blocks all network activit

Re: UFW/GFW Doesn't start up after running previously

2023-11-18 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 08:25:10 -0500 marathon wrote: > Using Debian Bookworm, on Lenovo X280 laptop. Each time after cold > startup or from suspend, I've found the ufw software is turned off > and blocks all network activity in that state. How do you know it is turned off? Please show the exact co

Re: Fetching local mail

2023-11-18 Thread Dan Ritter
Paul M Foster wrote: > After using claws-mail for a number of years, I'm testing the idea of going > back to mutt and fetchmail. One problem I've encountered is how to get > local mail in /var/mail/paulf into mutt's inbox at /home/paulf/Mail/in. > > I could run a POP server, and have fetchmail qu

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-18 Thread steve
Thanks Greg for the precise explanation. I would suggest to put it in the Debian Wiki for futur reference. Le 18-11-2023, à 09:18:56 -0500, Greg Wooledge a écrit : On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 12:24:30AM -0600, David Wright wrote: On Fri 17 Nov 2023 at 14:07:54 (+), Tixy wrote: > At time of wri

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 12:24:30AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 17 Nov 2023 at 14:07:54 (+), Tixy wrote: > > At time of writing, that depended on package in stable is called > > 'linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64' and the version of that package is > > '6.1.55-1'. This is the kernel installed o

Re: UFW/GFW Doesn't start up after running previously

2023-11-18 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 08:25:10AM -0500, marathon wrote: > Using Debian Bookworm, on Lenovo X280 laptop. Each time after cold startup > or from suspend, I've found the ufw software is turned off and blocks all > network activity in that state. > Does anyone have any idea why? Can I provide furth

UFW/GFW Doesn't start up after running previously

2023-11-18 Thread marathon
Using Debian Bookworm, on Lenovo X280 laptop. Each time after cold startup or from suspend, I've found the ufw software is turned off and blocks all network activity in that state. Does anyone have any idea why? Can I provide further information? Thanks.

Fetching local mail

2023-11-18 Thread Paul M Foster
Folks: After using claws-mail for a number of years, I'm testing the idea of going back to mutt and fetchmail. One problem I've encountered is how to get local mail in /var/mail/paulf into mutt's inbox at /home/paulf/Mail/in. I could run a POP server, and have fetchmail query it like any other sm

Re: unexplained crash on Ubuntu 20.04 system

2023-11-18 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 18 Nov 2023 01:36 -0500, from noloa...@gmail.com (Jeffrey Walton): > On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 7:11 PM Adam Weremczuk > wrote: >> Yesterday SSH on my desktop PC running Ubuntu 20.04 became unresponsive. > > [...] You should probably ask on the ubuntu-users list. [...] I agree. While Ubuntu is

Re: OT: any South Korean users out there?

2023-11-18 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
Hellow Jeff, Jeffrey Walton writes: > Hi Everyone, > > Please forgive the off-topic question. I want to connect with someone > from South Korea. I want to understand how competition helps drive > down the cost of internet service. > > I understand South Korea has at least 6 Internet Service Prov

Re: approx in debian 12

2023-11-18 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 08:28:51PM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 02:02:10PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 05:18:02PM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > > > Should we report an error regarding the approx man page which states: > > > > Whatever r