Re: setting IFS to new line doesn't work while searching?

2023-12-15 Thread David Wright
On Fri 15 Dec 2023 at 08:58:10 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 02:30:21PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > > Greg Wooledge (12023-12-15): > > > readarray -d '' fndar < <( > > > find "$sdir" ... -printf 'stuff\0' | > > > sort -z --otherflags > > > ) > >

Re: another possible audience for Debian

2023-12-15 Thread Matt
I was attempting to connect people to social change. Thank you for replying. I appreciate this mailing list. On 12/15/23 23:33, der.hans wrote: Am 15. Dec, 2023 schwätzte Matt so: moin moin Matt, I am a Debian user. An audience for Debian may be the Fediverse because the There are quite a

Re: another possible audience for Debian

2023-12-15 Thread der.hans
Am 15. Dec, 2023 schwätzte Matt so: moin moin Matt, I am a Debian user. An audience for Debian may be the Fediverse because the There are quite a few of us on the Fediverse :). There's also an account mirroring debian's micronews. @deb...@framapiaf.org ciao, der.hans Fediverse has a tech

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towaitfor it to respond

2023-12-15 Thread Matt
Perhaps that is why I run DWM rather than GNOME on this T60 Thinkpad. :p On 12/15/23 23:23, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 11:05:41PM -0500, Matt wrote: I had to go to Wikipedia to understand the context of the discussion. I did read all the posted emails in the thread. https://e

another possible audience for Debian

2023-12-15 Thread Matt
I am a Debian user. An audience for Debian may be the Fediverse because the Fediverse has a technology focused culture, and its creative endeavors could be in the form of developing Debian if many users are interested. The biases of Debian vary from topic to topic in great depth and detail. Tha

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towaitfor it to respond

2023-12-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 11:05:41PM -0500, Matt wrote: > I had to go to Wikipedia to understand the context of the discussion. I did > read all the posted emails in the thread. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID Knowing what RAID is... is good. But ultimately, the main takeaway from this thre

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towaitfor it to respond

2023-12-15 Thread Matt
I had to go to Wikipedia to understand the context of the discussion. I did read all the posted emails in the thread. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towaitfor it to respond

2023-12-15 Thread David Christensen
On 12/15/23 18:23, gene heskett wrote: I use the bleeding edge AppImage version of OpenSCAD, heavily, it has no such problems.  And no error outputs on the cli, it Just Works. Thank you for the reply. :-) Do you mean the following? https://openscad.org/downloads.html *** correction *** Op

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towaitfor it to respond

2023-12-15 Thread David Christensen
On 12/15/23 18:23, gene heskett wrote: I use the bleeding edge AppImage version of OpenSCAD, heavily, it has no such problems.  And no error outputs on the cli, it Just Works. Thank you for the reply. :-) Do you mean the following? https://openscad.org/downloads.html OpenSCAD-2021.01-x86_

Re: Slow boot, looks like due to filesystem mounts

2023-12-15 Thread Max Nikulin
On 16/12/2023 05:08, Jeffrey Walton wrote: The resize operation included deleting swap at /dev/sda2, increasing disk size of /dev/sda, extending /dev/sda1, and recreating swap at the end of /dev/sda as /dev/sda2. [...] $ sudo blkid /dev/sda2: UUID="b05d2596-5301-47d1-b208-95fca81be94e" TYPE="sw

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towaitfor it to respond

2023-12-15 Thread gene heskett
On 12/15/23 06:17, David Christensen wrote: On 12/14/23 18:36, gene heskett wrote: On 12/14/23 16:36, Anssi Saari wrote: gene heskett writes: It repeats per gui access. Starting a gfx program such as OpenSCAD, or qidislicer from an xfce4 terminal cli, is delayed for this similar but not alwa

Re: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?

2023-12-15 Thread John Crawley
On 15/12/2023 13:39, John Crawley wrote: If you don't want to wait for 6.1.67-1 to arrive in Bookworm stable, it is available in bookworm-proposed-updates [1][2], so one workaround would be to temporarily add that repository [3] to apt sources before upgrading. Debian point release 12.4 has ju

Slow boot, looks like due to filesystem mounts

2023-12-15 Thread Jeffrey Walton
Hi Everyone, I'm running Debian Unstable with KDE in one of my Virtual Box VMs. I had to resize /dev/sda1. The resize operation included deleting swap at /dev/sda2, increasing disk size of /dev/sda, extending /dev/sda1, and recreating swap at the end of /dev/sda as /dev/sda2. I'm now experiencing

Re: differences among amd64 and i386

2023-12-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 09:36:19AM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: Also see x32, . It takes advantage of amd64 benefits, and tries to reduce the memory pressures. x32 hasn't really gone anywhere and is unlikely to at this point; amd64 is the only reasonable choice

Re: The bug

2023-12-15 Thread Kevin Price
Am 15.12.23 um 15:47 schrieb Stefan Monnier: > But that's always true: the GNU/Linux system, like all sufficiently > complex software systems, is chuck full of bugs, many of which can > indeed have disastrous effects if they manifest under the > "right" circumstances. Here are some foreseeable and

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towait for it to respond

2023-12-15 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I've no idea how to start debugging this but I feel like the problem `strace` maybe? Stefan

Re: The bug

2023-12-15 Thread Stefan Monnier
> If so, then IIUC the answer is a resounding "YES, it is safe!". > Safe not to fry your ext4 by Bug#1057843, yes, Stefan. > Safe in general, as originally asked by Rick? > He might be lucky, or maybe less so. But that's always true: the GNU/Linux system, like all sufficiently complex software

Re: differences among amd64 and i386

2023-12-15 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 6:20 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 09:54:08PM +, fuf wrote: > > Near a half month ago I bought a comp. made into 2011 year and didn't knew > > which Debian12 to put: i386 or amd64?, chose i386 as thought that old comp. > > didn't take amd64. > > i3

Re: setting IFS to new line doesn't work while searching?

2023-12-15 Thread Nicolas George
Greg Wooledge (12023-12-15): > Equally safe, perhaps. Not safer. I don't know those particular perl > modules -- are they included in a standard Debian system, or does > one need to install optional packages? And then there's a learning > curve for them as well. File::Find is a standard module,

Re: setting IFS to new line doesn't work while searching?

2023-12-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 02:30:21PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Greg Wooledge (12023-12-15): > > readarray -d '' fndar < <( > > find "$sdir" ... -printf 'stuff\0' | > > sort -z --otherflags > > ) > It is possible to do it safely in bash plus command-line tools, indeed. >

Re: setting IFS to new line doesn't work while searching?

2023-12-15 Thread Nicolas George
Greg Wooledge (12023-12-15): > On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 01:42:14PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > > Also, note that file names can also contain newlines in general. The > > only robust delimiter is the NUL character. > > True. In order to be 100% safe, the OP's code would need to look > more like

Re: setting IFS to new line doesn't work while searching?

2023-12-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 01:42:14PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Also, note that file names can also contain newlines in general. The > only robust delimiter is the NUL character. True. In order to be 100% safe, the OP's code would need to look more like this: readarray -d '' fndar < <(

Re: setting IFS to new line doesn't work while searching?

2023-12-15 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 12/15/23, Greg Wooledge wrote: > More to the point, bash has a 'readarray' command which does what you > *actually* want: > > readarray -t fndar < <(find "$sdir" ...) > Yes, that was what I actually needed! lbrtchx

Re: setting IFS to new line doesn't work while searching?

2023-12-15 Thread Nicolas George
Albretch Mueller (12023-12-15): > sdir="$(pwd)" > #fndar=($(IFS=$'\n'; find "$sdir" -type f -printf '%P|%TY-%Tm-%Td > %TI:%TM|%s\n' | sort --version-sort --reverse)) > #fndar=($(IFS='\n'; find "$sdir" -type f -printf '%P|%TY-%Tm-%Td > %TI:%TM|%s\n' | sort --version-sort --reverse)) > fndar=($(find

Re: setting IFS to new line doesn't work while searching?

2023-12-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:33:01PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > #fndar=($(IFS=$'\n'; find "$sdir" -type f -printf '%P|%TY-%Tm-%Td > %TI:%TM|%s\n' | sort --version-sort --reverse)) > the array construct ($( ... )) is using the space (between the date > and the time) also to split array elements

setting IFS to new line doesn't work while searching?

2023-12-15 Thread Albretch Mueller
sdir="$(pwd)" #fndar=($(IFS=$'\n'; find "$sdir" -type f -printf '%P|%TY-%Tm-%Td %TI:%TM|%s\n' | sort --version-sort --reverse)) #fndar=($(IFS='\n'; find "$sdir" -type f -printf '%P|%TY-%Tm-%Td %TI:%TM|%s\n' | sort --version-sort --reverse)) fndar=($(find "$sdir" -type f -printf '%P|%TY-%Tm-%Td %TI:

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towait for it to respond

2023-12-15 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:00:00AM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 12/14/23 18:36, gene heskett wrote: > > Thunar, yes, but I don't use it, not my cup of tea. […] > It sounds like OpenSCAD and gidislicer have something in common that is > causing the issue, while the other apps do no

Re: differences among amd64 and i386

2023-12-15 Thread Andy Smith
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 09:54:08PM +, fuf wrote: > I don't notice differences among amd64 and i386 but think to pick among > this. Give advice, what better please? i386 (or any other 32-bit x86) Linux should generally not ever be used on any hardware that supports amd64. The main reason for

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towait for it to respond

2023-12-15 Thread David Christensen
On 12/14/23 18:36, gene heskett wrote: On 12/14/23 16:36, Anssi Saari wrote: gene heskett writes: It repeats per gui access. Starting a gfx program such as OpenSCAD, or qidislicer from an xfce4 terminal cli, is delayed for this similar but not always identical lag. And reports odd warnings et