Re: sanity check for /etc/ssl/certs?

2024-05-14 Thread Harald Dunkel
Problem was, /etc/ca-certificates.conf was not regenerated, even with apt install --reinstall -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confask,confnew,confmiss" ca-certificates Regards Harri

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-14 Thread eben
On 5/14/24 22:17, Max Nikulin wrote: On 15/05/2024 02:32, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 08:16:20PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: Messages in Markdown in the Windows world? I have never seen it. [...] The only sensible interpretation I can come up with for why these asterisks wer

Re: any usbip users

2024-05-14 Thread Antonio Russo
On 2024-05-14 18:28, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > i was plundering around and found a new, to me, utility > is any one using usbip > is it usable or cluncky > sounds like it might be handy > I use it to forward a usb device that I do not trust to a VM. I use usbauth to protect the host, and I

Markup in mail messages (was: Re: OT: Top Posting)

2024-05-14 Thread Max Nikulin
On 15/05/2024 02:32, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 08:16:20PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: Messages in Markdown in the Windows world? I have never seen it. [...] The only sensible interpretation I can come up with for why these asterisks were added is that they're being placed a

any usbip users

2024-05-14 Thread fxkl47BF
i was plundering around and found a new, to me, utility is any one using usbip is it usable or cluncky sounds like it might be handy

Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-14 Thread jeremy ardley
On 14/5/24 20:17, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 02:11:53PM +0200, Richard wrote: [...] Setting the permissions in /var/log/dovecot to 666 actually didn't solve the problem [...] This seems to prove (or, at least, strongly suggest) that I was barking up the wrong tree. I've

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Larry Martell
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 6:05 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 2:40 PM Richard wrote: > >> You really must think of yourself as being the epitome of human creation. >> I don't see any use in continuing this nonsense. If you don't have anything >> relevant to say, this case i

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread fxkl47BF
On Tue, 14 May 2024, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 05:01:31PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: >> don't y'all have any thing better to do > > You must be new here. sorta i've only been using versions of linux since the early 90's :) downloaded it from an archie serve

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 05:01:31PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > don't y'all have any thing better to do You must be new here. Get used to reading with a "mark thread read" key in your MUA of choice, is my best advice. Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS h

Re: sanity check for /etc/ssl/certs?

2024-05-14 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 3:10 PM Harald Dunkel wrote: > Hi folks, > > is there a sanity check for /etc/ssl/certs included in Bookworm? > I've got one host with some missing symlinks in this directory, eg. > > root@dpcl064:/etc/ssl/certs# ls -al *SSL.com* > ls: cannot access '*SSL.c

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread debian-user
Greg Wooledge wrote: > In this particular instance, we've got a person from the second > culture who seems to have no idea that other cultures exist, or that > a mailing list might not adhere to their own expectations. This > person is acting belligerantly, and will not listen to gentle > remind

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 08:16:20PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Messages in Markdown in the Windows world? I have never seen it. I can't be sure where they're coming from exactly, but every once in a while I see messages on debian-user, bug-bash or help-bash which have extra asterisk characters

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 2:40 PM Richard wrote: > You really must think of yourself as being the epitome of human creation. > I don't see any use in continuing this nonsense. If you don't have anything > relevant to say, this case is closed for me. > Who are you talking about? There are two peopl

Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-14 Thread Richard
Says the one refusing to stay on topic. What a sad hypocrite. On Tue, May 14, 2024, 20:10 Henning Follmann wrote: > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 03:11:16PM +0200, Richard wrote: > > "Top posting" (writing the answer above the text that's being replied to) > > is literally industry standard behavior.

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Karen Lewellen
well, speaking personally, I can respect both sides. I use a screen reader. Having to wade through loads of text, for a conversational flow, especially when not edited is far from productive for me personally. it is much better to have a top post, for me personally, because I have no issues

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 05:01:31PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > how many times has this top post crap been dug up > don't y'all have any thing better to do > i know > how about some real debian issues > Hi, Have a quick look at the Debian-user FAQ posted each month and the Debian Cod

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Nicolas George
Greg Wooledge (12024-05-14): > Usenet news. For people in this culture, there is a well-defined set > of "netiquette" rules -- plain text messages, inline quoting with "> " > citation characters, lines limited to ~72 characters, etc. I slightly disagree with this wording: you make it sound like w

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 5/14/24 10:41 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: We have a clash of two cultures here. More than just *nix vs. M$. In business communications by email, the norm is to quote the *entire* thread, every time, without paring anything down, purely for the sake of CYA. As such, top-posting is the only re

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 05:01:31PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > how many times has this top post crap been dug up > don't y'all have any thing better to do It's never going to stop. We have a clash of two cultures here. The first culture are Unix users who grew up with Internet email

Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-14 Thread Richard
How exactly do I do that? Am Di., 14. Mai 2024 um 18:40 Uhr schrieb jeremy ardley < jeremy.ard...@gmail.com>: > > From what I can find out, the postfix local delivery agent is not > chroot and it communicates with the main postfix processes via shared > directories and pipes. > > To debug the pr

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread fxkl47BF
how many times has this top post crap been dug up don't y'all have any thing better to do i know how about some real debian issues

Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-14 Thread Nicolas George
Alain D D Williams (12024-05-14): > PS: check the dictionary definition of "literally". I think you should have checked first that it makes the point you want to make and not the opposite: 2. (degree, figuratively, proscribed, contranym) Used non-literally as an intensifier for figurative stat

Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-14 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 03:11:16PM +0200, Richard wrote: >"Top posting" (writing the answer above the text that's being replied >to) is literally industry standard behavior. Many do top post, but many do not. Places where it is often frowned on are technical mail lists such as this one. T

Re: OT: Top Posting (was: Dovecot correct ownership for logs)

2024-05-14 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 04:08:19PM +0200, Richard wrote: > Just because something isn't an official ISO standard doesn't mean it's not > standard behavior. And how it relates to this mailing list? It's called a > setting. Most people prefer inline quoting around here (I know I do). That's because

Re: sanity check for /etc/ssl/certs?

2024-05-14 Thread Marco Moock
Am 14.05.2024 um 16:44:05 Uhr schrieb Harald Dunkel: > is there a sanity check for /etc/ssl/certs included in Bookworm? Is ca-certificates installed? If so, reinstall it. -- kind regards Marco Send unsolicited bulk mail to 1715697845mu...@cartoonies.org

sanity check for /etc/ssl/certs?

2024-05-14 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, is there a sanity check for /etc/ssl/certs included in Bookworm? I've got one host with some missing symlinks in this directory, eg. root@dpcl064:/etc/ssl/certs# ls -al *SSL.com* ls: cannot access '*SSL.com*': No such file or directory Other hosts show root@dp

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Richard
You really must think of yourself as being the epitome of human creation. I don't see any use in continuing this nonsense. If you don't have anything relevant to say, this case is closed for me. Am Di., 14. Mai 2024 um 16:55 Uhr schrieb gene heskett : > On 5/14/24 10:09, Richard wrote: > > Just b

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread gene heskett
On 5/14/24 10:09, Richard wrote: Just because something isn't an official ISO standard doesn't mean it's not standard behavior. And how it relates to this mailing list? It's called a setting. No its not, its your refusal to use the down arrow in your reply editor to put your reply after the q

Re: How to run automatically a script as soon root login

2024-05-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 02:51:17PM +0200, Mario Marietto wrote: > I've installed the Cloudflare gateway on Debian as a vm because I can't do > it directly in FreeBSD. But I want to be covered even when I use FreeBSD. > The script that I wrote forward the Cloudflare "VPN" from Debian to > FreeBSD,so

Serial Connection in Debian 9 Moxa Device

2024-05-14 Thread Faisal Akhtar
Hello Debian Team, We are using Linux Debain 9 in our moxa devices. we are connected in a network where we connect with our moxa device via ssh and run the commands with Gauge ip and port and get Data. Now I'm Facing issue from 2, 3 weeks to connect the moxa using ssh and then connect to the seri

Re: OT: Top Posting (was: Dovecot correct ownership for logs)

2024-05-14 Thread Richard
Just because something isn't an official ISO standard doesn't mean it's not standard behavior. And how it relates to this mailing list? It's called a setting. Am Di., 14. Mai 2024 um 15:57 Uhr schrieb Loris Bennett < loris.benn...@fu-berlin.de>: > Hi Richard, > > Richard writes: > > > "Top posti

OT: Top Posting (was: Dovecot correct ownership for logs)

2024-05-14 Thread Loris Bennett
Hi Richard, Richard writes: > "Top posting" (writing the answer above the text that's being replied > to) is literally industry standard behavior. Can you provide a link to the standard you are referring to? Assuming such a standard exists, how would it apply to this newsgroup? [snip (51 line

Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-14 Thread Henning Follmann
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 03:11:16PM +0200, Richard wrote: > "Top posting" (writing the answer above the text that's being replied to) > is literally industry standard behavior. > Whatever. It is not standard behavior in mailing lists. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists#Posting_Rules.2C_Guid

Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-14 Thread Richard
And you think you're important enough to change that setting for a whole mailing account? You're funny. Am Di., 14. Mai 2024 um 15:16 Uhr schrieb Brad Rogers : > On Tue, 14 May 2024 15:11:16 +0200 > Richard wrote: > > Hello Richard, > > >"Top posting" (writing the answer above the text that's be

Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-14 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 14 May 2024 15:11:16 +0200 Richard wrote: Hello Richard, >"Top posting" (writing the answer above the text that's being replied >to) is literally industry standard behavior. This 'literally' isn't industry. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / )

Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-14 Thread Richard
"Top posting" (writing the answer above the text that's being replied to) is literally industry standard behavior. Also, I don't think you've really cleared out any confusion. Now, how exactly can dovecot log to /var/log/dovecot/ without (postfix) throwing errors? Because it clearly is for 2 out o

Re: How to run automatically a script as soon root login

2024-05-14 Thread Mario Marietto
I've installed the Cloudflare gateway on Debian as a vm because I can't do it directly in FreeBSD. But I want to be covered even when I use FreeBSD. The script that I wrote forward the Cloudflare "VPN" from Debian to FreeBSD,so from outside my IP will be cloudFlared. On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 1:16 P

Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-14 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 02:11:53PM +0200, Richard wrote: [...] > Setting the permissions in /var/log/dovecot to 666 actually didn't > solve the problem [...] This seems to prove (or, at least, strongly suggest) that I was barking up the wrong tree. I've currently run out of trees and at $DAYJOB,

Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-14 Thread Richard
> > ps -eo pid,user,group,comm | grep postfix > 2886706 postfix postfix pickup > 2886707 postfix postfix qmgr > 2886764 postfix postfix tlsmgr Also as far as I know, postfix logs to syslog too. At least there is no dedicated file or folder for it in /var/log. Setting the permissions in /var

Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-14 Thread Florent Rougon
Le 14/05/2024, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit: > You might try > > ps -eo pid,user,group,comm | grep postfix > > or similar. Yep, and beware that the original message mentions a postfix program named 'local' (/usr/lib/postfix/sbin/local). > May 13 20:55:37 mail postfix/local[2824184]: (...) Regards

Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-14 Thread Richard
For us the situation is even a bit stranger. The inboxes are located in neither location, but in /maildirs/username/ (no idea why it was set up that way, but it's a dedicated mail server where the user's don't have their own home directory). /var/mail is empty. Am Di., 14. Mai 2024 um 13:45 Uhr sc

Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-14 Thread jeremy ardley
On 14/5/24 19:44, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 07:36:17PM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: Postfix is chrooted (usuallly) to /var/spool/postfix If this is true, then how would a local delivery agent work? It needs write access to all users' inboxes, which are either in /var/mail o

Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-14 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 07:36:17PM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: [...] > Postfix is chrooted (usuallly) to /var/spool/postfix > > If postfix complains about /var/log/dovecot it's actually complaining about > /var/spool/postfix/var/log/dovecot I'm sceptical about this -- the error would have been

Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-14 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 01:29:17PM +0200, Richard wrote: > My guess is that postfix runs as postfix. That would be my guess too (or perhaps as some special "Debian-+postfix". > At least processes like local, > smtpd, bounce etc run as that user. But beyond that I have no idea how to > find that o

Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 07:36:17PM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > Postfix is chrooted (usuallly) to /var/spool/postfix If this is true, then how would a local delivery agent work? It needs write access to all users' inboxes, which are either in /var/mail or in users' home directories. I could ima

Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-14 Thread jeremy ardley
On 14/5/24 19:17, Richard wrote: But why should it cause issues? I set the logging in dovecot's conf.d, so I'd expect dovecot to write these logs, not postfix as it has its own settings. Am Di., 14. Mai 2024 um 05:00 Uhr schrieb jeremy ardley : On 14/5/24 04:16, Richard wrote: >

Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-14 Thread Richard
My guess is that postfix runs as postfix. At least processes like local, smtpd, bounce etc run as that user. But beyond that I have no idea how to find that out. At least there's nothing in the postfix.service or postfix@.service about that. So I've changed the files to dovecot:postfix 664, but sam

Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-14 Thread Richard
AppArmor complaints would be shown in journalctl too. But dmseg doesn't show anything either. Just switched dovecot back to these log files, waited for the error message, yet dmesg doesn't have anything new since yesterday. Systemd was also my guess as it was originally set to ProtectSystem=full fo

Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-14 Thread Richard
But why should it cause issues? I set the logging in dovecot's conf.d, so I'd expect dovecot to write these logs, not postfix as it has its own settings. Am Di., 14. Mai 2024 um 05:00 Uhr schrieb jeremy ardley < jeremy.ard...@gmail.com>: > > On 14/5/24 04:16, Richard wrote: > > Maybe someone here

Re: How to run automatically a script as soon root login

2024-05-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 01:10:05PM +0200, Mario Marietto wrote: > Your answer does not help me to understand how to use a "structured > programming / if , while, for, functions" for the specific task that I want > to achieve. What task is that?

Re: How to run automatically a script as soon root login

2024-05-14 Thread Mario Marietto
Your answer does not help me to understand how to use a "structured programming / if , while, for, functions" for the specific task that I want to achieve. I failed using "your" lovely structured programming and that's the reason why I'm asking for some hint to understand why and how I can use it.

Re: How to run automatically a script as soon root login

2024-05-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 08:09:18AM +0200, Mario Marietto wrote: > Nobody can show a different way,a modern way, for creating my script ? Why > did I feel so comfortable by recreating the 1960s GOTO statement in Bash ? I have absolutely no clue what you're trying to do or why you're trying to do it

Re: sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward [was: How to run automatically a script as soon root login]

2024-05-14 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 04:54:26PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > > Wasn't sudo echo the name of a pop group? > > :) If it wasn't it should've been one. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward [was: How to run automatically a script as soon root login]

2024-05-14 Thread Bret Busby
Wasn't sudo echo the name of a pop group? :) Bret Busby Armadale Western Australia (UTC+0800) .