Le 26/10/2014 20:17, Jean-Marc a écrit :
Sun, 26 Oct 2014 10:32:48 -0700
David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com écrivait :
[...]
Thank so much for your answers.
After reading them in the list archives, I think I will go for:
- no dedicated partition for /boot;
- no swap;
- one big
Hello,
I hve dependencies which grap libjpeg-turbo-progs and libjpeg-progs
which claim ownership of the same file.
There are already bugs about this (764318, 764322,765667,765790) but I
do not understand what I should do about this
So, do someone have a hint ?
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Le 13/10/2014 12:12, Darac Marjal a écrit :
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 07:51:50PM +0200, Erwan David wrote:
I want to have a system which boots, and starts a subset of daemons.
Then afterward I ssh to it, do something which 1) mount an encrypted
disk, 2) start other daemons (which depends
Le 13/10/2014 14:14, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/13/2014 2:32 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 09:05:14PM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Among other things, legitimate MTAs have MX records.
Not necessarily. In the absence of an MX record an A record is perfectly
legitimate.
Le 13/10/2014 21:21, Andrei POPESCU a écrit :
On Lu, 13 oct 14, 12:16:25, Erwan David wrote:
That's a server, and the daemons mount must survive logout.
Your ~/.profile could contain commands like
sudo service my-daemon start
(used 'service' on purpose, since it will work
Le 12/10/2014 20:48, Brian a écrit :
On Mon 13 Oct 2014 at 05:02:15 +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
You seem to be ignoring some facts:
Believe me, I tried to ignore all the noise of the systemd threads, then
I decided to look a bit further -- perhaps you should too.
- you don't speak for
Le 12/10/2014 21:01, Brian a écrit :
On Sun 12 Oct 2014 at 20:50:00 +0200, Erwan David wrote:
Le 12/10/2014 20:48, Brian a écrit :
On Mon 13 Oct 2014 at 05:02:15 +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
You seem to be ignoring some facts:
Believe me, I tried to ignore all the noise of the systemd
Le 11/10/2014 20:20, Jonathan Dowland a écrit :
On 10 Oct 2014, at 18:51, Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote:
how can I do this with systemd ?
You'd write a systemd unit for the mount operation (there's a mount type)
which wasn't hooked into the default multiuser target.
The mount unit
Le 11/10/2014 18:45, Steve Litt a écrit :
On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 13:38:05 +0300
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Vi, 10 oct 14, 19:51:50, Erwan David wrote:
I want to have a system which boots, and starts a subset of daemons.
Then afterward I ssh to it, do something which 1
I want to have a system which boots, and starts a subset of daemons.
Then afterward I ssh to it, do something which 1) mount an encrypted
disk, 2) start other daemons (which depends on the encrypted disk).
I know how to do this with policy-rc.d, how can I do this with systemd ?
I know this list
Le 09/10/2014 17:12, Reco a écrit :
Hi.
On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 22:36:46 -0400
Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
If what you did works for everybody when Jessie goes stable, you've
just singlehandedly ended this whole argument.
That's a short-term solution at best. Because of:
1)
I get an error at boot, afterwards I see it is :
systemctl --failed
UNITLOAD ACTIVE SUB
DESCRIPTION
● systemd-backlight@backlight:acpi_video0.service loaded failed failed
Load/Save Screen Backlight Brightness of backlight:acpi_video0
What should
Le 07/10/2014 21:33, Erwan David a écrit :
I get an error at boot, afterwards I see it is :
systemctl --failed
UNITLOAD ACTIVE SUB
DESCRIPTION
● systemd-backlight@backlight:acpi_video0.service loaded failed failed
Load/Save Screen Backlight
Le 06/10/2014 20:03, Martin Read a écrit :
On 06/10/14 18:45, Steve Litt wrote:
Oh Geez, I thought Plymouth was only an Ubuntu thing. Getting
away from plymouth was about 40% of why I moved from Ubuntu to Debian.
Conveniently, plymouth is optional in Debian, unless you're using
upstart or
Le 03/10/2014 21:20, Sébastien NOBILI a écrit :
Bonsoir,
Le vendredi 03 octobre 2014 à 17:22, RHATAY Sami a écrit :
Du coup, je suis passé à systemd avec le package systemd-sysv ... Et
tout est rentré dans l'ordre :-)
Pour une fois que quelqu'un rapporte avoir débloqué une situation avec
Le 03/10/2014 22:20, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
On Friday 03 October 2014 12:42:42 andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:
Le boot automatique ne fonctionne plus
avec la dernière version de gdm3 :
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=758183
Connaissez vous un gestionnaire
Le 02/10/2014 15:30, Pascal Hambourg a écrit :
Txo a écrit :
Le bon module semble chargé, Ifconfig donne bien un eth0, et wicd dit
que la connexion est établie
Ah ? Pourtant :
2: eth0: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state
DOWN
NO-CARRIER+DOWN = pas de lien
On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 04:07:39AM CEST, Rusi Mody rustompm...@gmail.com said:
Yeah one more systemd thread [Not a rant!]
I am getting that systemd-shim is to be removed.
Is this expected?
This is on testing running aptitude dist-upgrade.
Dunno if this means anything:
$ aptitude
Le 28/09/2014 14:00, softwatt a écrit :
This may or may not be relevant: Rooting android makes it possible to
use it as an SSH *client*.
You mean server ? Because you have ssh clients for non rooted android...
I use connectbot, but there are others
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Le 28/09/2014 17:29, Steve Litt a écrit :
I assume that implicit in your reply is that such a major version
upgrade works well, and that over the years you don't get all sorts of
accumulated software dust bunnies doing funny things to you.
How many others here have experiences like Chris'? My
Le 27/09/2014 19:14, r...@rootshell.tk a écrit :
Le 26/09/2014 15:12, Philippe Gras a écrit :
Bien sûr. Ceci dit, et si la faille existe depuis 22 ans comme c'était
écrit dans l'article,
elle n'a sans doute pas été connue par énormément de pirates potentiels…
Ce n'est
certainement pas la
Le 27/09/2014 01:08, Ric Moore a écrit :
On 09/26/2014 05:08 PM, green wrote:
Ric Moore wrote at 2014-09-26 14:18 -0500:
Change is certainly needed when any pimple face kid can edit and
hide his
doings from a text log with nano. I think the change is necessary to
harden
up our systems.
Le 25/09/2014 23:11, Andrei POPESCU a écrit :
On Jo, 25 sep 14, 21:38:07, James Allsopp wrote:
Hi,
I'm really cynical about the Systemd concept, but if it looks like it's
happening anyway, could we start making a list of recommended tutorials on
using it. It would help if people recommending
Le 25/09/2014 23:39, Nate Bargmann a écrit :
Good tips all around. Only thing is that I stopped using screen in
favor of tmux a few years ago. The biggest aggravation is the loss of
translation of keys, such as Ctl-left, Ctl-right, etc. (connecting from
another Debian system is fine).
Le 23/09/2014 18:58, Steve Litt a écrit :
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 19:11:03 +0300
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Lu, 22 sep 14, 21:17:28, Marty wrote:
1) The goal is modular Debian. Multi-init is the means to achieve
it. Being tied to one init system is what caused Debian’s
Le 23/09/2014 20:46, Brian a écrit :
On Tue 23 Sep 2014 at 19:30:34 +0200, Erwan David wrote:
Compare it to to a init system which is the main reason to choose a
desktop environment...
See
http://www.webupd8.org/2014/09/debian-switches-back-to-gnome-from-xfce.html
So sytemd does in fact
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 02:12:52PM CEST, Marty mar...@ix.netcom.com said:
On 09/22/2014 05:39 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 22.09.2014 01:51, John Hasler a écrit :
Martin Read writes:
consolekit is indeed the thing that systemd-logind replaces (and
systemd-logind was the
Le 20/09/2014 20:15, maderios a écrit :
On 09/20/2014 07:06 PM, Vincent Besse wrote:
On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 16:02:49 +0200
maderios mader...@gmail.com wrote:
On 09/20/2014 02:09 PM, Francois Lafont wrote:
Le 20/09/2014 12:16, Sylvain L. Sauvage a écrit :
[...]
Donc, pour résumer :
—
Hello
I used to have a working hibernation. But I upgraded RAM from 8G to 16G
So I also made a bigger swap partition for hibernation. Now I see the
disk activity when going to hibernation, when starting the laptop, it
tries to start on the hiberation data, however it fails and I get a
completely
Le 19/09/2014 18:14, Erwan David a écrit :
Hello
I used to have a working hibernation. But I upgraded RAM from 8G to 16G
So I also made a bigger swap partition for hibernation. Now I see the
disk activity when going to hibernation, when starting the laptop, it
tries to start
Le 18/09/2014 18:04, J Rowan a écrit :
On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 10:53:21 +0100
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
On Thu 18 Sep 2014 at 09:44:49 +0100, Joe wrote:
So we're looking for some kind of direction here, hoping that
someone who actually knows for sure will tell us whether the use of
Why should installing cgroupfs-mount on a server (as recommended by
docker) require a graphical boot ?
(and if following the the recommends, install desktop-base, on a server... ?
SHould I report a bug against mountall ?
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On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:30:08AM CEST, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk said:
On Tue 16 Sep 2014 at 10:51:33 +0200, Erwan David wrote:
Why should installing cgroupfs-mount on a server (as recommended by
docker) require a graphical boot ?
It doesn't.
It does on testing (I should have
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 01:06:30PM CEST, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk said:
On Tue 16 Sep 2014 at 13:45:28 +0400, Reco wrote:
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:37:27AM +0100, Brian wrote:
On Tue 16 Sep 2014 at 11:32:03 +0200, Erwan David wrote:
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:30:08AM CEST, Brian
Le 14/09/2014 14:15, The Wanderer a écrit :
On 09/14/2014 at 05:15 AM, Martin Vegter wrote:
On 09/14/2014 02:22 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
2014/09/13 22:06 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk
mailto:a...@cityscape.co.uk:
Nothing needs to clarified. The only contradictory post is
based on not
Le 12/09/2014 23:43, Brian a écrit :
On Fri 12 Sep 2014 at 22:10:28 +0200, Martin Vegter wrote:
I read somewhere that Jessie will still support the old SysVinit (even
if it's not the default init). I intend to use Debian as long as I can
avoid using systemd.
After installation you definitely
Le 12/09/2014 18:35, Michael Biebl a écrit :
Am 12.09.2014 15:30, schrieb Martin Vegter:
hello,
when installing Jessie, systemd is installed as default init.
Is it possible to use preseeding to override this, so that systemd will
not be installed?
No, this is currently not possible.
So
Le 12/09/2014 19:25, Brian a écrit :
On Fri 12 Sep 2014 at 18:52:02 +0200, Erwan David wrote:
Let the discourse be clear.
And let any advocacy arguments not be in a thread which is intended to
help a user. The brasero requires gvfs thread has been infested with
such arguments. Please take
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:11:21AM CEST, Pierre Crescenzo
pie...@crescenzo.nom.fr said:
Bonjour,
- après un temps d'adaptation, vous sentez-vous plus efficace ou moins
efficace avec Wheezy/Gnome3 qu'avec Squeeze/Gnome ?
Après un temps d'adaptation (difficile les premiers mois : au tout
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 03:08:43PM CEST, Jean-Michel OLTRA
jm.oltra.antis...@espinasse.net said:
Bonjour,
Le jeudi 04 septembre 2014, nb a écrit...
et je me demande pourquoi dans le tableau le budget de la comm sociale
est en gras
Je me faisis justement la même
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 03:22:36PM CEST, Jean-Michel OLTRA
jm.oltra.antis...@espinasse.net said:
Bonjour,
Le jeudi 04 septembre 2014, Erwan David a écrit...
Pour mettre en avant, et en évidence, ce budget trop important, dans
lequel il faudrait tailler ?
êtes vous sûrs
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 03:11:13PM CEST, C. Mourad Jaber
m...@nativobject.net said:
Bonjour,
Depuis le passage à systemd, j'ai quelques comportements curieux pour
l'arrêt et le redémarrage via KDE.
Le redémarrage en générale se passe bien, mais si j'essais d'arrêter, kde se
décharge bien
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 04:14:57PM CEST, maderios mader...@gmail.com said:
On 09/02/2014 03:11 PM, C. Mourad Jaber wrote:
Bonjour,
Depuis le passage à systemd, j'ai quelques comportements curieux pour
l'arrêt et le redémarrage via KDE.
Le redémarrage en générale se passe bien, mais si
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 04:19:02PM CEST, MERLIN Philippe
phil-deb1.mer...@laposte.net said:
Le mardi 2 septembre 2014, 15:11:13 C. Mourad Jaber a écrit :
Bonjour,
Depuis le passage à systemd, j'ai quelques comportements curieux pour
l'arrêt et le redémarrage via KDE.
Le redémarrage
Le 02/09/2014 16:36, Sylvain L. Sauvage a écrit :
Le mardi 2 septembre 2014, 15:52:41 David Demonchy a écrit :
J'ai eu le même souci en unstable . Tout est rentré en ordre
avec une mise à jour.
Pour halt en console : le bon comportement de halt est bien
d’arrêter la machine, pas de
Le 02/09/2014 19:39, Sylvain L. Sauvage a écrit :
Le mardi 2 septembre 2014, 19:12:59 maderios a écrit :
[…]
Tu vires KDE puisque c'est KDE qui semble en cause et tu
vérifies que tu peux arrêter avec un autre environnement,
sans bug, E17 par exemple. Son 'power off' fonctionne chez
moi
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 04:05:53PM CEST, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com said:
On Tuesday 02 September 2014 14:52:46 Joe wrote:
On Tue, 2 Sep 2014 23:44:49 +1200
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 07:22:48AM +, KD wrote:
Dan Ritter dsr at
Le 02/09/2014 17:21, B a écrit :
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 11:13:02 -0400
The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote:
I often find that there is text in dmesg which - to the best of my
ability to determine - is not visible in any file under /var/log/.
it is: /var/log/dmesg; furthermore, this
Le 02/09/2014 19:03, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
On Tuesday 02 September 2014 17:06:58 Steve Litt wrote:
So, Lisi, is it your contention that the developers don't look at this
list, and don't care what's written on it?
By and large, yes. If you want to communicate with developers, communicate
with
Le 02/09/2014 19:29, John Hasler a écrit :
Erwan David writes:
Please read the article pointed by the OP.
Nobody is going to impose any changes on the Debian packaging system.
That's a nonstarter.
Even if in some later version systemd works only with this kind of scheme ?
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Le 02/09/2014 19:38, B a écrit :
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 19:33:12 +0200
Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote:
Even if in some later version systemd works only with this kind of
scheme ?
I join John about that, Debian as the very best packaging system,
moving to RPM would clobber any hope
Le 02/09/2014 19:58, John Hasler a écrit :
Erwan David writes:
Please read the article pointed by the OP.
I wrote:
Nobody is going to impose any changes on the Debian packaging system.
That's a nonstarter.
Erwan David writes:
Even if in some later version systemd works only with this kind
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 11:14:52PM CEST, Martin Read zen75...@zen.co.uk said:
On 02/09/14 19:55, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
Erwan David wrote:
aptitude remove systemd - downgrade almost everything to stable...
Ok no program present in stable should depend on systemd...
that's a lot of bugs
On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 02:22:24AM CEST, Miles Fidelman
mfidel...@meetinghouse.net said:
Martin Read wrote:
On 02/09/14 19:55, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
Erwan David wrote:
aptitude remove systemd - downgrade almost everything to stable...
Ok no program present in stable should depend on systemd
On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 07:25:19AM CEST, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com said:
On Wednesday 03 September 2014 06:19:15 Doug wrote:
OK, guys. What is the best way to communicate with developers, not just
in the Debian crew, but devs from other popular systems, like Ubuntu,
PCLOS, Centos,
Le 01/09/2014 20:29, Brian a écrit :
On Mon 01 Sep 2014 at 13:26:09 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
Reading:
http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html
systemd's upstream is explicitly interested in taking over all
Linux distros, not in the minor sense of being
Le 31/08/2014 13:27, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
On Saturday 30 August 2014 12:26:17 David wrote:
Si je devais opprimer numériquement un peuple, je ne choisirait rien
d'autre que linux.
Je comprends pas le sens de cette phrase.
En quoi on peut opprimer un peuple avec un OS Libre ?
At login I get the following errors :
[ 21.563380] systemd-logind[2908]: Failed to start unit
user@1000.service: Unknown unit: user@1000.service
[ 21.563408] systemd-logind[2908]: Failed to start user service:
Unknown unit: user@1000.service
and at logout the following ones
[ 329.910312]
Le 31/08/2014 15:39, B a écrit :
On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 15:28:11 +0200
Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote:
I submitted a bug, however I could not find those messages in any log :
why ?
With people considering their mistakes something that others must
fix, expect a speedy closing w/o any
Le 31/08/2014 16:26, Brian a écrit :
On Sun 31 Aug 2014 at 15:51:22 +0200, Erwan David wrote:
I tried journalctl systeld-logind and journalctl logind, but those where
refused foor unable to add to match
I get No journal files found for the journalctl command. I bet you do
as well
Le 31/08/2014 16:12, Brian a écrit :
On Sun 31 Aug 2014 at 15:28:11 +0200, Erwan David wrote:
At login I get the following errors :
[ 21.563380] systemd-logind[2908]: Failed to start unit
user@1000.service: Unknown unit: user@1000.service
[ 21.563408] systemd-logind[2908]: Failed
Le 28/08/2014 16:10, AW a écrit :
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 16:02:02 +0200
B lazyvi...@gmx.com wrote:
As all I stand up for is _freedom_ (of any kind) and as what I hate most
is fundamentalism (of any kind), this thread is terminated for me.
AKA. I don't want to take the time to either
Le 28/08/2014 21:16, Brian a écrit :
On Thu 28 Aug 2014 at 20:37:41 +0200, Erwan David wrote:
Le 28/08/2014 16:10, AW a écrit :
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 16:02:02 +0200
B lazyvi...@gmx.com wrote:
As all I stand up for is _freedom_ (of any kind) and as what I hate most
is fundamentalism
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 04:09:09PM CEST, Reco recovery...@gmail.com said:
Hi.
On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 08:10:45 -0500
Buchs, Kevin J. buchs.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:
Thanks for the comment, Nuno. I only want to run a single X client, so
XDMCP is not the way to go. My problem is solely getting
Le 12/08/2014 17:48, Michael Biebl a écrit :
Am 12.08.2014 17:16, schrieb Hugo Vanwoerkom:
Right. Debian Sid. 'halt' does not poweroff with systemd.
Well, yeah. halt is not supposed to power off your system.
But that is most likely not the issue Zenaan is having
SAme thing wirh stop
Le 10/08/2014 19:23, Steve Litt a écrit :
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 06:35:54 -0400
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:
Olav Vitters, a Gnome guy who always argues on behalf of Gnome/systemd
on debian-devel@ (I don't think that he's involved in Debian in any
other way), has said on his blog it seems
Le 10/08/2014 20:05, Sven Hartge a écrit :
Gábor Hársfalvi hgab...@gmail.com wrote:
I wish to know when will be the final release of Debian Jessie.
The soft-freeze will be in September. The hard-freeze is planned for
December, AFAIK. The release will be sometimes after that, probably in
the
On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 11:35:47PM CEST, Gaëtan PERRIER
gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr said:
Bonjour,
Sur une machine en testing quand je fais systemctl j'ai un failed sur
systemd-remount-fs.service
Un systemctl status systemd-remount-fs.service me retourne:
systemd-remount-fs.service -
On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 01:01:57AM CEST, AW debian.list.trac...@1024bits.com
said:
On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 17:57:02 -0400
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:
journalctl SYSLOG_FACILITY=4
Thanks!
But why '4'? Why not '42'? Or even better...
journalctl show auth
journalctl show apache2
On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 11:17:02PM CEST, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com said:
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:
Andrew McGlashan wrote:
Yes, that's what I meant, sysvinit is not broken.
I rather agree. But the opponents cite corner cases where the
previous
Le 04/08/2014 21:34, Tom H a écrit :
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Andrew McGlashan
andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote:
On 4/08/2014 11:32 PM, Tom H wrote:
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Andrew McGlashan
andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote:
My own view is why systemd
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 09:42:52AM CEST, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com said:
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:02 AM, Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote:
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 12:06:51AM CEST, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org
said:
Am 22.07.2014 19:22, schrieb Erwan David:
Le 22/07/2014 18:59
DId you remove also the nividia specific glx libs ?
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Le 24/07/2014 21:43, Jerome BENOIT a écrit :
Hello List,
I am building an IPv6 firewall: I get the message
ip6tables v1.4.14: host/network `172.20.0.1' not found
Is it expected ?
Thanks in advance,
Jerome
It seems quite natural to me that ip6tables does not knows how to treat
an IPv4
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 12:06:51AM CEST, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org said:
Am 22.07.2014 19:22, schrieb Erwan David:
Le 22/07/2014 18:59, Michael Biebl a écrit :
Am 22.07.2014 18:24, schrieb The Wanderer:
As far as I can see, there is no way to get init-system log messages
without
Le 22/07/2014 17:56, Erwan David a écrit :
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 05:25:22PM CEST, Don Armstrong d...@debian.org said:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014, Erwan David wrote:
I lokked at it. I do not know how to remove this quiet on command line
which seems to have appeared. Did systemd change grub
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:19:54PM CEST, Andrei POPESCU
andreimpope...@gmail.com said:
On Lu, 21 iul 14, 21:54:48, Erwan David wrote:
Le 21/07/2014 21:33, Joe a écrit :
Let us hope so. Tonight's upgrade to sid requires the removal of
sysvinit-core...
libpam-systemd 204 depends
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:12:37AM CEST, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net
said:
On 7/22/14, Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote:
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:19:54PM CEST, Andrei POPESCU
andreimpope...@gmail.com said:
On Lu, 21 iul 14, 21:54:48, Erwan David wrote:
Le 21/07/2014 21:33
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 03:47:36PM CEST, Slavko li...@slavino.sk said:
Ahoj,
Dňa Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:33:28 -0400 Miles Fidelman
mfidel...@meetinghouse.net napísal:
Some of us are actually interested in knowing what's going on with
testing, before it becomes stable. Separating the
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 05:25:22PM CEST, Don Armstrong d...@debian.org said:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014, Erwan David wrote:
I lokked at it. I do not know how to remove this quiet on command line
which seems to have appeared. Did systemd change grub configuration ?
Or did rather change grub
Le 22/07/2014 18:24, The Wanderer a écrit :
On 07/22/2014 11:56 AM, Erwan David wrote:
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 05:25:22PM CEST, Don Armstrong
d...@debian.org said:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014, Erwan David wrote:
I lokked at it. I do not know how to remove this quiet on command
line which
Le 22/07/2014 18:59, Michael Biebl a écrit :
Am 22.07.2014 18:24, schrieb The Wanderer:
As far as I can see, there is no way to get init-system log messages
without also getting kernel log messages
Of course there is.
Might help if you actually tried it before commenting on it?
The
I see the following lines in my /var/log/messages
Jul 21 09:05:58 nux28622 org.a11y.Bus[1674]: Activating service
name='org.a11y.atspi.Registry'
Jul 21 09:05:59 nux28622 org.a11y.Bus[1674]: Successfully activated service
'org.a11y.atspi.Registry'
Jul 21 09:05:59 nux28622
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 09:59:55AM CEST, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com said:
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:33 PM, sp113438 sp113...@telfort.nl wrote:
1 poweroff takes ages (several minutes), and sometimes fails completely,
this is very annoying
On Fedora, v208 introduced slice units and I (and
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 10:08:31AM CEST, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com said:
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Slavko li...@slavino.sk wrote:
Dňa Sun, 20 Jul 2014 07:46:17 +0200 Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de
napísal:
On 2014-07-19 19:14 +0200, Slavko wrote:
Then it seems, that there is way to
2) You have a specific syntax, and a specific semantics (what does
ExecStart, WantedBy, etc mean), that one must learn in order to simply
read this. The namles of the sections are also meaningfull. All this
defines a full fledge langaue, and I did not find any comprehensive donc
of
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 10:49:11AM CEST, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net
said:
On 7/21/14, Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote:
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 09:59:55AM CEST, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com said:
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:33 PM, sp113438 sp113...@telfort.nl wrote:
1 poweroff
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:15:42PM CEST, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net
said:
On 7/21/14, Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote:
2) You have a specific syntax, and a specific semantics (what does
ExecStart, WantedBy, etc mean), that one must learn in order to simply
read
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 02:26:44PM CEST, Liam O'Toole liam.p.oto...@gmail.com
said:
On 2014-07-21, Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote:
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 10:36:30PM CEST, Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org
said:
(...)
This and more excellent documentation at
https
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 04:34:16PM CEST, Chris Bannister
cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz said:
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 07:26:43AM +0200, Erwan David wrote:
I do not have the ressources to test : no time no machine which I can
afford to break.
And since today syste,md-shim is no more
Le 21/07/2014 17:59, Liam O'Toole a écrit :
On 2014-07-21, Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote:
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 02:26:44PM CEST, Liam O'Toole
liam.p.oto...@gmail.com said:
On 2014-07-21, Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote:
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 10:36:30PM CEST, Jonathan Dowland
Le 21/07/2014 18:23, Tom H a écrit :
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 4:18 AM, Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote:
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 09:59:55AM CEST, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com said:
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:33 PM, sp113438 sp113...@telfort.nl wrote:
Booting is fast
That's one
Le 21/07/2014 21:33, Joe a écrit :
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:00:01 -0400
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Miles Fidelman
mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Damn right I don't use development or testing versions in
production. I'm looking down the road a year
Le 20/07/2014 13:56, Andrei POPESCU a écrit :
On Sb, 19 iul 14, 20:16:11, The Wanderer wrote:
Unless I'm much mistaken, none of the tools provided by coreutils are
daemons, and none of them are init systems. Both of those things are
qualitative differences.
I didn't mention any of the
Le 20/07/2014 14:17, The Wanderer a écrit :
On 07/20/2014 05:17 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Sonntag, 20. Juli 2014, 11:00:15 schrieb David Baron:
How safe are these on new 64bit system (dist-upgraded to Sid)?
Which do you mean by these?
I'd imagine he means upgrades to systemd,
Le 20/07/2014 16:11, Andrei POPESCU a écrit :
On Du, 20 iul 14, 14:40:27, Erwan David wrote:
Add to this the fact it throws away years of habits with yet another
language (yes the systemd unit files are nit shellscripts but they use a
specific language mre complicated to understand thant shell
Le 20/07/2014 16:09, Joe a écrit :
On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 13:39:13 +0200
Slavko li...@slavino.sk wrote:
Ahoj,
Dňa Sat, 19 Jul 2014 20:09:33 -0400 The Wanderer
wande...@fastmail.fm napísal:
It's partly systemd's - or, rather, the systemd developers' - fault
for having chosen to implement the
systemd-shim is no more an option in testing. the whole
systemd with all its bugs (very low shutdown, no suport for
policy-rc.d, etc..) is forced to users.
It was said that we would have a choice. Were is the choice ?
Were is the transition doc ?
No where, just go ahead and test. For
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 10:36:30PM CEST, Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org
said:
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 03:09:40PM +0200, Erwan David wrote:
Problem is where do we get the knowledge to repair mannually ? I do noit
see it in /usr/share/doc/systemd nor in the crossreference man pages,
nor
Le 18/07/2014 18:44, Brian a écrit :
I have no testing install to hand at the moment so perhaps you could
list these packages for us. Please indicate the ones for which there
is no real need.
Explain why systemd is needed for hplip. Does this mean HP printer will
stop working on freeBSD ?
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