Re: setting up environment variables

2005-09-23 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Bob Proulx wrote: Kai Grossjohann wrote: Same here, I also can't think of another spot. I think that ?dm are seriously broken for not starting a login shell on behalf of the user logging in. You might find this bug interesting. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=250765

Re: [gnome art] I cannot identify a program

2005-09-16 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Looks like Gaim. Kai -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: setting up environment variables

2005-09-15 Thread Kai Grossjohann
L.V.Gandhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat .xsession #!/bin/bash --login exec startkde Cool, that works indeed. .xsession needs to be executable, and it needs to have --login or the semantic equivalent in the shebang line. However, there are a number of other things that

Re: setting up environment variables

2005-09-14 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you want to change the envvars globally, then change them in /etc/profile since all users' profile include that. Is /etc/profile read when a user logs in via xdm, kdm, gdm or a similar program? I tried to get my ~/.profile (or ~/.bash_profile or

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I discovered that sawfish, metacity and enlightenment work. Blackbox and uwm don't (weird effects happen instead though - quite interesting!). Still to try wmaker and a couple of others. I haven't found a window manager fulfills all the little quirks

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Angelo Bertolli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, I'd like to find out a way to keep windows from stealing focus if at all possible. A number of window managers have a focus new windows option. It may work to turn that off. I don't know whether your wm has such an option, though. Kai -- To

Re: setting up environment variables

2005-09-14 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I only tried it with startx from a cmd line. Thanks for the info. But I can't think where else you would set it up. Same here, I also can't think of another spot. I think that ?dm are seriously broken for not starting a login shell on behalf of the user

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I use ALT-Tab to cycle thro all open apps, I would like to see all apps in a list or a row with the current selected app highlighted. I saw one window manager doing it just how I like it but don't remember which one now. WindowMaker does this, I

Re: From emacs TEXINPUTS doesn't work

2005-09-12 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Antonio Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm having a strange thing happening to me: In .bashrc and .bash_profile I have the line export TEXINPUTS=.:~/my_tex_macros: Perhaps it works better to use $HOME instead of ~? In Emacs, say M-x getenv RET TEXINPUTS RET to verify that Emacs knows

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-12 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I didn't realise Gnome was a window manager. Yet it runs with sawfish. Makes me think I should be able to choose Gnome and Enlightenment, but how? Gnome is not a window manager. Gnome contains many programs, one of which is a window manager. There should

Re: bash history too short ?

2005-09-07 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Perhaps different bashes overwrite each other's history? There is a setting for appending to the history, rather than overwriting it. Perhaps that helps? Kai -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: changing window managers

2005-09-07 Thread Kai Grossjohann
David Jardine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 06:56:00PM +0200, Kai Grossjohann wrote: John L Fjellstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: .xsession or .xinitrc Not sure what the difference between those two files are. .xinitrc is invoked by xinit. startx invokes xinit

Re: changing window managers

2005-09-07 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Joachim Fahnenmüller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry if the question is stupid, but: What is a session manager, and how does it get involved? A window manager allows you to move and resize windows, iconify them, and so on. A session manager remembers which windows (applications) were open and

Re: nohup, but not nohup.out -- how to?

2005-09-05 Thread Kai Grossjohann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes: Kai Grossjohann wrote: nuhup somecommand somefile sleep 1; tail -f somefile Oh! Fascinating. Does nohup look with isatty(3) to determine what it should do? Yes. It looks at file descriptors 0, 1, and 2, and redirects any that are a tty

Re: nohup, but not nohup.out -- how to?

2005-09-05 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The number of people who somehow think that $RANDOM_APPLICATION just must have hidden options to do exactly whatever random thing they think it should do always astounds me. In Emacs, there is usually a $RANDOM_VARIABLE to tweak $RANDOM_LISP_FUNCTION to

Re: changing window managers

2005-09-05 Thread Kai Grossjohann
John L Fjellstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: .xsession or .xinitrc Not sure what the difference between those two files are. .xinitrc is invoked by xinit. startx invokes xinit. .xsession is read by xdm. (And I think by other foodm programs, too, such as kdm, gdm.) Kai -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

nohup, but not nohup.out -- how to?

2005-09-02 Thread Kai Grossjohann
I am very fond of doing nohup somecommand sleep 1; tail -f nohup.out to start a background job and then watch its output. Then I can stop watching the output and log out and the job continues. But what I don't like is that it is writing to nohup.out. I'd prefer another filename, one that I can

Re: nohup, but not nohup.out -- how to?

2005-09-02 Thread Kai Grossjohann
David Jardine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: nuhup somecommand somefile sleep 1; tail -f somefile That will write nohup: appending output to `nohup.out' to the file somefile :-) The output from somecommand will still end up in nohup.out. I was hoping I could say something like nohup -f

Re: nohup, but not nohup.out -- how to?

2005-09-02 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Maurits van Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 02:03:15PM +0200, Kai Grossjohann wrote: David Jardine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: nuhup somecommand somefile sleep 1; tail -f somefile That will write nohup: appending output to `nohup.out' to the file somefile

Re: xorg + xinerama - but on an on-demand basis

2005-09-01 Thread Kai Grossjohann
You could start two instances of the X server, each running one instance of gdm. One would be running on vty7, one on vty8, and you could switch between them with Ctrl-Alt-F7 and Ctrl-Alt-F8. I don't know how to tweak the gdm setup to start two of them. Kai -Original Message- From:

Re: German keyboard layout messed up after upgrade to sarge

2005-08-30 Thread Kai Grossjohann
M Carlock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, I find under Gnome and KDE that the ALT-GR key no longer has any effect (which means among other things that I cannot type a '@' character), Does Ctrl-Alt work as a replacement for AltGr? and that my ü, ö and ä keys now produce |, v and d,

Re: Tips and Tricks for Dial-Up Internet Access?

2005-08-30 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Basajaun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One question I would like to make myself (I mean... not _to_ myself, hehehe) is: how does one get the modem not to produce its annoying noises with pon? There is an AT command you can send to the modem to tell it about the noise. I believe the options are:

Re: problems updating udev

2005-08-29 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Edward Kamau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. apt-get has been unable to reach Debian mirrors for 'non-us' i.e apt fails with a 404 error. I basically got around this by commenting out the 'non-us' lines in my sources.list. Does anybody (in the US) have a sources.list that works for them with

Re: adding modules to kernel

2005-08-26 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Secondly, why do I need root privileges for make-kpkg kernel-image? This step merely creates the kernel*.deb file, I thought. Perhaps fakeroot works? See the --rootcmd option for make-kpkg. Kai -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: upgrade from kernel 2.4 to 2.6

2005-08-26 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Jon Dowland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: apt-get install kernel-2.6, for stable in unstable (and poss.testing) renamed to sometihng else, do dpkg -l '*kernel*' In unstable, it's linux-image instead of kernel-image, linux-headers instead of kernel-headers, and so on. Kai -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: blind spot for java

2005-08-26 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Graham Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: bash: /usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin/java: No such file or directory This message makes you think that /usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin/java does not exist. But that is sometimes wrong. Look if this file is a shell script. If so, look at its shebang line and fix

Re: Sendmail woes

2005-08-26 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Derek \The Monkey\ Wueppelmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It used to be that when I went into the /etc/mail directory and made changes to the access file then typed make, the access.db file would be updated and I could then reload sendmail. It seems now with Sarge that it does not do this

Re: blind spot for java

2005-08-26 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Graham Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a JDK installed in /usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/ when I attempt to execute [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin/java I get bash: /usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin/java: No such file or directory which is quite plainly wrong as the file most

Re: Sendmail woes

2005-08-26 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Derek \The Monkey\ Wueppelmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It looks like it does more from the output, however it still doesn't create either an access.db or a mailertable.db file. Even though these options are turned on in my sendmail.mc file. This causes big problems as sendmail likes to fail

Re: WINE

2005-08-18 Thread Kai Grossjohann
David R. Litwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Looks to me like CRYPTNET.dll is missing from your WINE's fake_windows. Did you run the MSN Messenger installer, or did you simply run the EXE from an old Windows installation? I'm not quite sure what you mean by this. I have partitioned by

Other key combos for Multi_key

2004-07-02 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Currently, I can type the ä character like this: Multi_key a Multi_key a I would like to configure an additional combination: Multi_key a e How to do that? (I know that the above combo produces æ, but I intend to configure more combinations so that I can still produce æ.) Kai

Re: fast, tabbed, gnome/wm- compliant terminal

2004-07-02 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Zenaan Harkness [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for the pointers though - and when I figure out how to scroll back through screens scrollback buffer, I might even use that more often. At least, it's useful to run stuff on remote hosts, so solved a real problem there... Hit Ctrl-A ESC, then

Re: fast, tabbed, gnome/wm- compliant terminal

2004-07-01 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Magnus Therning [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd love to swap gnome-terminal for xterm, but I can't live without tabs... I've started using screen recently. It's way cool. It doesn't have tabs, but the functionality provided by tabs is there: you can have multiple shells running in the same

Re: apt-get upgrade conflicts

2004-06-30 Thread Kai Grossjohann
What does apt-get -u dist-upgrade say? I usually use dist-upgrade instead of upgrade. Kai -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Ugly (xemacs) font

2004-06-13 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Joachim Reichel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know how to change the menu font directly (at least I don't remember) but IIRC a workaround is to change the order of the fonts paths in XF86Config since they are search in order until an appropriate font is found. You should make sure

Re: Ugly (xemacs) font

2004-06-13 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Another idea is to put the 100dpi and 75dpi unscaled fonts near the beginning of the font path. The font you're seeing looks like some fancy font that tries to be cute. Hm. So perhaps try to find the font and remove it from your system ;-) Kai -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Ugly (xemacs) font

2004-06-13 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Joachim Reichel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This does not look like an entry in /etc/X11/XF86Config. No, it is from xfs-xtt's config file. Anyway, I have the same order of directories in XF86Config, after 'FontPath unix/:7110'. Sorry for this bogus comment, I didn't (really) know what I was

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-06-06 Thread Kai Grossjohann
s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Incoming from Faheem Mitha: well. The bottom line is that in Python whitespace is syntatically meaningful, in C etc. it is not. This has the consequence that in C, emacs is able to correctly indent the code, using the built-in syntax rules it knows

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-06-04 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kai Grossjohann wrote: My proposal was meant to allow people to edit the same file, but to see different things depending on their preferences. I believe in giving people the choice to view things as they like. Which doesn't work in a collaberative

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-06-04 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Derrick 'dman' Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If tabs and spaces are combined for indentation purposes, then when you change your tab display width you will see a horrid mess of incorrectly indented code. This is often, but not always the case. I explained how tabs and spaces are combined

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-06-04 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, of course it would, You used nothing but tabs to achieve the alignment you wanted. There's no mixing of spaces and tabs. There IS mixing of tabs and spaces. It seems there is a misunderstanding. In the following, I will use --- to show a tab

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-06-04 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Uck, nasty. Give me nothing but spaces, please, because there will be problems in that setup. The only problem I can see is that the right tab/space mix might get lost. Kai -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Kai Grossjohann
dircha [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kai Grossjohann wrote: The style I'm proposing is designed to make it possible to change tab width! It does not work. Yeah... Consider the problems created with a code file created by a user who prefers 8-character-width tabs _and_ 80 columns. Now

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kai Grossjohann wrote: Well, nothing that couldn't be solved with a somewhat wider window. Many people like to have windows wider than 80 columns. (I prefer 80 columns, myself.) And wider paper? The commonly accepted practice is that code should

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kai Grossjohann wrote: You have mentioned a number of problems, but your proposal has even more problems. Such as what exactly? Indention works. Alignment works. Everyone sees the same thing. This is the problem: everyone sees the same

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I set tab width to 4, align at 6. Tab + 2 spaces. Person sets his tabs to 8 the line is 10 spaces out, 4 spaces too far. That's why people insist on a tab width of 8. If tabs were immutable like that mixing tabs and spaces wouldn't be a problem.

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kai Grossjohann wrote: This will work for one level of nesting. But this means you need to keep track of the nesting levels when moving things around in the code. Huh? Works for multiple levels. I've often refactored code from simple functions

Re: Multiboot Query

2004-05-30 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Tony Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could you please explain how to install two or more distributions alongside one another on the same system, so that I can choose between them using LILO. Create a partition or two for Debian, then tell the Debian installer to use them. Then you'll need

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-29 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Faheem Mitha wrote: Bob Proulx makes good points elsewhere in this thread. Whether you like the indentation as syntax feature is really a matter of taste. Personally, I am ambivalent about it. On the one hand it makes code more compact. On the other hand,

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-29 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Monique Y. Mudama [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I may or may not feel like changing my tabwidth settings just to read your g*dd*mn code! Actually, using real tabs allows us to view the same file with different indentation levels. However, this requires some thought and no editor I know of applies

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-29 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Derrick 'dman' Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 07:21:38PM +, Faheem Mitha wrote: | On the other hand, indentation is easily lost | information, for example when cutting and pasting. In practice this isn't a problem. Cut and paste the entire block of code and

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-29 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kai Grossjohann wrote: If the middle two lines were indented with a tab, then people could view this code with different indentation settings by just frobbing the tab width, without changing the file contents. Good in theory, bad in practice

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-29 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First off it looks damned wrong so you know something's wrong. Where in the above example it looks wrong but works. It may, in fact, *be* weong. Secondly I dunno about EMACS but in VIM, highligh the 2 middle lines, hit . Tada, indented just fine.

Re: backport site

2004-05-25 Thread Kai Grossjohann
charlie derr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would be hesitant to add several different discrete backport urls to my /apt/sources/list unless i was certain there would be no overlap in affected libraries. backports.org was designed in such a way that adding several discrete backport URLs works

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-24 Thread Kai Grossjohann
richard lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But it seems to me most rational to use the opportunity to begin learning one of the lighter languages that I keep seeing mention of. So the question is, which do you people recommend? IMHO, none of Perl, Python, Ruby is lighter than the others.

Use modified Debian packages -- management issues

2004-05-16 Thread Kai Grossjohann
I would like to compile Tora with Oracle support. If I want to do it once, I do like this: I fetch the sources with apt-get, then I edit debian/rules (perhaps other debian/* files, too), then I build the package, then dpkg -i. But when a new version of the Debian package comes out, I have to

Management of packages deviating from standard

2004-05-01 Thread Kai Grossjohann
We might like to install some non-standard Debian packages. For example, we would like to compile Tora with Oracle support. Another thing is that I would like to compile Emacs from CVS (the Emacs CVS repository, not the Debian CVS repository) as a Debian package -- maybe my colleagues might like

Re: Make Debian package from CVS sources of upstream program?

2004-04-02 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cvs-autoreleasedeb is probably what you're looking for, though I haven't tried it myself. This calls cvs-buildpackage, and that one talks of having *.orig.tar.gz files. This sounds as if they mean something other than what I mean, when they talk about

Make Debian package from CVS sources of upstream program?

2004-03-31 Thread Kai Grossjohann
I work with the CVS version of Emacs every day. Currently, I install it into a specific subdir of my home dir, but I think it would be useful to have it available as a Debian package so that I can take advantage of the added convenience of having Debianized add-ons. What's the right way to

Re: /etc/profile and setting env variables

2004-03-25 Thread Kai Grossjohann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I want to do this for all users on the system, so I thought: edit /etc/profile I did that... but it doesn't seem to make a difference, and worse, /etc/profile seems to get nuked upon logout/login. So clearly I am doing this in the wrong place.

Re: switching window managers and session managers - update-alternatives ?

2004-03-24 Thread Kai Grossjohann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a question about switching between kde and other window managers (blackbox, fluxbox, ion, etc). I am interested in learning what is the preferred or intended method of switching between kde and other 'more traditional' window managers in Debian. Maybe the

Re: gnus losing mail?

2004-03-19 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What kind of advantages [of nnmaildir] are we talking about? Here is the blurb from the info file: `nnmaildir' stores mail in the maildir format, with each maildir corresponding to a group in Gnus. This format is documented here:

Re: gnus losing mail?

2004-03-18 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alright, I got it sorted out. I'm now using the nnml backend. Here's what fixed mail for me... I don't think it's necessary to switch to nnml. Everything should work with nnfolder, too. First, had to tell procmail to spew at another directory. Then,

Re: gnus losing mail?

2004-03-18 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kai Grossjohann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alright, I got it sorted out. I'm now using the nnml backend. Here's what fixed mail for me... I don't think it's necessary to switch to nnml. Everything should work

Re: gnus losing mail?

2004-03-17 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: gnus seems to have this odd habit of at least appearing not to handle incoming mail very well. It warns that the mailbox was changed on disk out from under emacs and asks if I really want to save my changes. Never, never, NEVER let any program write to

Re: gnus: mail aliases

2004-03-17 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Looking through the gnus manual, I cannot for the life of me find any information on whether or not gnus even has any method for saving and retrieving email addresses in any sort of sane manner. Gnus comes with more than one manual. Enter the `message'

Re: gnus losing mail?

2004-03-17 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kai Grossjohann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Never, never, NEVER let any program write to the files that Gnus is using. That is, in the default configuration Gnus uses ~/Mail/mail/misc (or ~/Mail/mail.misc) for the default mail group, and if you tell

Re: Next stable release: 13 CD's

2004-03-16 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Beretta [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How in God's name is it an obstacle? Who the hell needs all 13 CD's? Are you planning on installing every single binary package there is? I don't know about you, but the idea of - buy CD 1 via mail order - wait a week for it to arrive - start Debian

Re: downgrade Sid -- sarge or woody

2004-03-11 Thread Kai Grossjohann
UnKnown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've just install sid in a machine but i would need to downgrade to sarge or woody, I've never done that so I would apreciate some advice on it. Just reinstall the machine, that's the safest procedure. Kai -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: cyrus authentication WITHOUT /etc/passwd

2004-03-10 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Will Trillich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: maybe SASL is what i'm looking for? not sure... (i installed libsasl7 but there are dozens of other sasl packages to choose from as well...?) Yes, you need to tell Cyrus to authenticate against sasl. IIRC, this is automatic for the Cyrus 2 Debian

Re: cyrus authentication WITHOUT /etc/passwd

2004-03-10 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Will Trillich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: maybe SASL is what i'm looking for? not sure... (i installed libsasl7 but there are dozens of other sasl packages to choose from as well...?) Found it. It's the settings sasl_pwcheck_method and sasl_auxprop_plugin in /etc/imapd.conf if you're running

testing versus unstable: tradeoffs?

2004-03-01 Thread Kai Grossjohann
People at my site wish to migrate away from Debian stable to something more current. I understand that unstable is more bleeding edge than testing, and that there is some kind of automatic process whereby packages migrate from unstable to testing. (That automatic process makes sure there are no

Re: testing versus unstable: tradeoffs?

2004-03-01 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Roberto Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Personally, I run unstable on all the workstations I administer. But, then again, I like living dangerously :-) Heh ;-) If your people want more current apps, then think about backports (either from www.backports.org, or doing it yourself). Doing

Re: Exporting running display ala Remote Desktop or VNC for windows

2004-03-01 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Danie Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I want to continue working on a running GNOME desktop in my office from a remote location. Maybe it's sufficient to just run the applications you need? Just ssh into your office (using the -X option if needed), and start running X11 programs. This is not

Kai's mail setup seriously hosed

1998-10-06 Thread Kai Grossjohann
I have seriously hosed my mail setup in the past few days and might have deleted mail you sent between October 1st and a few minutes ago. Please accept my apologies for this mishap; I am truly sorry about this. Could you resend your message, please? If you haven't sent me a message since October

Re: barking dogs and i18n

1997-12-31 Thread Kai Grossjohann
On 31 Dec 1997, Kai Grossjohann said: Kai Franklin is writing pop3-biff.el. Of course, it is only appropriate Kai to have this thing bark. Now, barking in English is easy: woof! Kai will do just fine. But nowadays, some i18n is called for. So I told Kai him that wau! (or wuff!) would

barking dogs and i18n

1997-12-31 Thread Kai Grossjohann
people on this list can help? I think Klingon and Esperanto as well as maybe Swahili are very important in order not to alienate a significant user population! PS: Franklin, I hope you didn't mind me posting here. tia, kai -- Kai Grossjohann, Informatik VI[EMAIL PROTECTED] Uni Dortmund, D

Re: [DEBIAN] Standardization?

1997-09-16 Thread Kai Grossjohann
On Sat, 9 Aug 1997, George Bonser said: George One of the points raised was that even though there is a George filesystem standard, there is still too much leeway in that George some things like system initialization files and how they George are arrainged can differ widely from one

Re: Why Debian?

1997-09-05 Thread Kai Grossjohann
On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Gonzalo A Diethelm said: Gonzalo [...]I very much like the idea of contributing to the free Gonzalo software idea, but I'd also like to get a functional, Gonzalo feature-loaded and maintainable system;[...] The package maintenance software has an unusual interface (ie

Re: splitting up the debian-user mailing list

1997-08-11 Thread Kai Grossjohann
On Sun, 10 Aug 1997, W Paul Mills said: Paul I do not like the idea of replying to poster, who will then Paul give a summary. Personally I would rather see all responses to Paul a thread. There is often more than one way to solve a Paul problem. What is best for one case may not be best

Re: Best mode for uucp over tcp.

1997-08-11 Thread Kai Grossjohann
On Wed, 06 Aug 1997, Victor Torrico said: Victor I'm running a ppp dialup to an ISP who uses pop3 and dynamic Victor addressing. This is my only access to the net. I have no Victor local net. Victor Is it to my advantage to run uucp over tcp/ip? Both ends of a connection must support

Re: Debian-Lite : The Project

1997-08-05 Thread Kai Grossjohann
On 05 Aug 1997, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen said: SSM What kind of workstation are you setting up? SSM [ ] normal workstation SSM [ ] Word processor (lyx/latex/emacs ... ) SSM [ ] X-terminal SSM [ ] ... As I read this, the Deity project is developing something that has this capability.

Re: splitting up the debian-user mailing list

1997-08-04 Thread Kai Grossjohann
On Fri, 1 Aug 97 15:08 PDT, Bruce Perens said: Bruce [...] I've been thinking of splitting the debian-user list Bruce into several lists: [...] I've been on the sun-managers list for a couple of years. They use the reply to the author, author sends summary scheme of things, and the volume

Re: ftp web pages updating in apache?

1997-07-29 Thread Kai Grossjohann
On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, R Chris Ross said: Chris [...] I would like to have them set up so that they can FTP Chris their data in, both us and them can look at it and off we go. Chris It seamed that the easiest way was to set them up as a user Chris then symlink the directory that is the

Re: What is '/etc/emacs/site-start.d' for?

1997-07-29 Thread Kai Grossjohann
On Tue, 29 Jul 1997, sca bbs said: sca What's the directory '/etc/emacs/site-start.d' for? sca When I installed 'calc', I found that the 'calc autoloads' sca file '50calc.el' is in '/etc/emacs/site-start.d/'; sca but emacs doesn't seem to automatically load it. I think there is

Re: X-capable mail reader

1997-07-28 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Stephen Zander writes: Stephen Currently I'm using xmh and it's just not cutting the 200+ Stephen emails I see a day. I like the MH features, I just need Stephen multiple inboxes, which it doesn't do :( I use Gnus, the Emacs mail/news reader. It handles large amounts of mail very

Re: Mailers

1997-07-28 Thread Kai Grossjohann
David R Kohel writes: David This is not really Debian specific, but is relevant to David handling the volume of mail from this mailing list. [...] David Emacs? Are the mail handling tools of emacs worth looking David into? I am an Emacs aficionado. I use the Gnus combined mail and

Re: GNUS and Mail

1997-07-28 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Eloy A Paris writes: Eloy rmail??? Isn't this rmail the one that comes in the sendmail Eloy package and is used for UUCP mail? I guess not... As it happens, rmail is a homonym (or is it polyseme?). Not only is the program that's used with UUCP called rmail, but RMAIL is also an Emacs mail

Re: X-capable mail reader

1997-07-28 Thread Kai Grossjohann
mark powers writes: mark [...] GNUS has a lot of nice things about it, though I mark don't think it does any sorting functions for MH mark mail. (correct me if I'm mistaken here) Though, the nnmh mark method works quite well if you have an external mail sorting mark app (such as

Re: Best e-mail approach for discon. sites

1997-07-02 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Carey Evans writes: Carey For example, my ISP adds X-Envelope-To: and Return-Path: Carey headers which is all the extra OOB information. You've got a very nice ISP :-) kai -- A large number of young women don't trust men with beards. (BFBS Radio) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING

Re: Best e-mail approach for discon. sites

1997-06-25 Thread Kai Grossjohann
George Bonser writes: George ...and they are fetched individually. jghasler writes: John You can put all the mail for each branch office in one John mailbox. Fetchmail can sort them out. How does fetchmail deal with mailing lists? I'd imagine that all that fetchmail can do is look

How to tell dpkg a package is installed though it isn't?

1997-06-17 Thread Kai Grossjohann
I compiled Emacs myself and put it in /usr/local. How do I tell dpkg that it's OK to install packages that depend on Emacs though it's not a Debian package install? tia, kai -- A large number of young women don't trust men with beards. (BFBS Radio) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST:

Re: How can i port files from dos to linux?

1997-05-20 Thread Kai Grossjohann
The Good ol' tavo =) writes: orojas how can i port the gnu or tar or gzip or .deb files that i orojas download using MSIE30 to linux? and how can i install all orojas the packages that come with the debian system that i orojas downloaded from the internet without causing conflicts

Re: Debian as a server.

1997-05-14 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Nathan E Norman writes: Nathan [...] The biggest difference is the price tag. An unlimited Nathan BSDI 3.0 license is $2995. An unlimited Linux licenses Nathan costs about $0. [...] Of course, BSDI isn't the only BSD out there and there are several that cost $0, too. kai -- Life is

Re: AccelX and Xfree together

1997-04-30 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Chris Hanson writes: Chris [...] In the future, you will have to be careful not to Chris update the XFree86 server package accidentally, because this Chris will overwrite the AcceleratedX server. [...] I didn't change any symlinks. I went into the X86 config file (forget the exact name)

Re: so sorry to intrude, but i need help

1997-04-18 Thread Kai Grossjohann
BodakSean writes: Sean [...] to reach these worlds i have to have some kinda Sean unzipping device and other complicated utilities for a first Sean time user. [...] To find things out there a web search engine is the place to go. For example, I pointed my web browser at the URL

Re: bi

1997-04-14 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Jason Costomiris writes: Jason I get calls from users all the time asking How do I search Jason and replace in my file? 9 times out of 10, they are using Jason pico, which has to be the most brain dead editor ever Jason created. I always tell them, use vi, [...] Well, vi is not the

Re: vi

1997-04-14 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Craig Sanders writes: vi: Craig 1G # move to start of file Craig /192.168.1 # search for 192.168.1 Craig 5cw192.168.200ESC # change 5 'words' to 192.168.2 Craig n # find next Craig . # repeat change Craig n

Re: dftp without dselect?

1997-04-06 Thread Kai Grossjohann
adavis writes: adavis Is it possible to install packages via dftp without using adavis dselect? There is dftp and there is dpkg-ftp. dftp is meant to be used without dselect whereas dpkg-ftp adds the ftp method to dselect. I used dftp exactly as described with dftp --help, and I had no

Re: Open Look GUI

1997-04-04 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Daniel Karlsson writes: Daniel AVAILABILITY Daniel This command is available with the OpenWindows Daniel environment. It uses the OPEN LOOK Graphical User Interface. Daniel Is it impossible to run OpenWindows programs in X? Or how Daniel can I get passed this? Well, OpenWindows

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