Re: Sound on jessie

On Saturday 17 September 2016 14:03:36 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, September 17, 2016 03:56:20 AM Joe wrote: > > On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 08:57:12 +0200 > > > > deloptes wrote: > > > Joe we are not doing advertisements for this or that distro. > > > > 'Advertisement'? I'm recommending some

Re: How to arrange for booting to console

On Sunday 11 September 2016 22:54:23 david...@freevolt.org wrote: > If using systemd, these look relevant: > > How can I arrange to boot to console mode rather than X. > > > https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TipsAndTricks/#changingth >edefaultboottarget > > # ln -sf /usr/lib/sys

Re: Windows

On Friday 16 September 2016 09:34:56 Joe wrote: > The same way you do in any medium-heavyweight Linux DE. No, that is not how I do it in Linux, and having to do it that cumbersome way in Windows and sometimes LibreOffice is a constant minor niggle. In Linux, I sweep the mouse over what I want t

Re: NTFS access on Debian boot

On Friday 16 September 2016 05:42:29 David Wright wrote: > noone is reading this, are they? I am!! Hey! Look! Over here! Lisi

Re: internet connectivity from Comcast

On Friday 16 September 2016 02:02:04 Alan McConnell wrote: > There is a class of people on this E-list who seem to think that >      the Jessie installer couldn't possibly be expected to recognize a > Windoze OS, especially since Windows 10 is "so new".  My reaction is: > codswallop! We know that.

Re: google-chrome-stable vs. chromium

On Thursday 15 September 2016 11:28:49 Bob Bernstein wrote: > Aha. That describes me to a tee. Now, I put a premium on things > that "just work." So you have chosen well. Anyway, I do the same, for much the same reason, so it must be the right choice. ;-) (There are things I want to watch.) Li

Re: internet connectivity from Comcast (was: How to get Jessie to run...)

On Thursday 15 September 2016 19:24:49 David Wright wrote: > On Thu 15 Sep 2016 at 18:57:52 (+0100), Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Thursday 15 September 2016 18:36:58 Alan McConnell wrote: > > > And if Brian is reading this, I remind him that he is going to tell me > > > h

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

On Thursday 15 September 2016 13:38:49 Brian wrote: > On Thu 15 Sep 2016 at 11:01:12 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Are you deliberately remaining uncontactable off list? You must be > > sending > > I am not uncontactable. > > > from one email address and receivi

Re: internet connectivity from Comcast (was: How to get Jessie to run...)

On Thursday 15 September 2016 18:36:58 Alan McConnell wrote: > And if Brian is reading this, I remind him that he is going to tell me how >         to use Jessie to copy to and from my Windows 10. Brian suggested a USB stick. You rudely poo-pooed it. Lisi

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

On Thursday 15 September 2016 00:50:25 Brian wrote: > On Thu 15 Sep 2016 at 00:33:09 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 14 September 2016 23:09:12 Brian wrote: > > > >        Ah. That's good.  Your E-mail reader seems to respect my > > > > inde

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

On Wednesday 14 September 2016 23:09:12 Brian wrote: > >        Ah. That's good.  Your E-mail reader seems to respect my > > indentations.  Others don't, alas.  Do you perchance use mutt? Indentations count as formatting. Plain text is supposed not to preserve formatting. Lisi

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

On Wednesday 14 September 2016 19:51:50 Brian wrote: > You are probably asking the wrong question. Oh, no, Brian. He is asking the right question by definition. Alan is asking it, it is therefore right. We are providing the wrong answers. And to make matters worse we are doing so in Old Engl

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

On Wednesday 14 September 2016 16:34:31 Alan McConnell wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Felix Miata" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 1:44:14 AM > Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved > > Alan McConnell composed

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

On Wednesday 14 September 2016 01:50:44 Alan McConnell wrote: >Re Royal Holloway: boys were added in 1966, a year before my time > there. But there were always male faculty there, especially in math, which > subject has, most unfortunately, suffered from a dearth of qualified women. > Th

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

On Wednesday 14 September 2016 01:50:44 Alan McConnell wrote: > More perhaps tomorrow.  I have tasks to perform before bed.  But maybe > someone can tell me why the installer can't look at the partitions and > determine that there is some kind of OS already installed?  Why does it > have to know ab

Re: Errors when doing a update

On Tuesday 13 September 2016 21:51:01 david...@freevolt.org wrote: > On Tue, 13 Sep 2016, Jochen Spieker wrote: > > Brian LaPlante: > >> Please find attached a copy of my sources.list and results of doing an > >> update. Any corrections that need to be made would be greatly > >> appreciated. Thanks

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

On Tuesday 13 September 2016 18:24:07 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 13 September 2016 08:57:19 Alan McConnell wrote: > > Warning: This E-mail is for the most part in the nature of a pushback > > against various insinuations that have been made. > > Now I am going to push back Alan. > > If you a

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

On Tuesday 13 September 2016 20:30:20 Brian wrote: > > A final question:  I've used Wiktionary to learn that 'whinging' is the > > English for what we Murricans call 'whining'.  Is it used a lot nowadays? > >  I don't recall ever having heard it when I taught at Royal Holloway > > College back in 1

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

On Tuesday 13 September 2016 18:01:58 Alan McConnell wrote: > > Finally:  I have taken a resolution not to respond to further > > chastisement or smarm. Please help me to keep it! What a pity you didn't! What happened to your self control?? Lisi

Re: mount MTP phone

On Monday 05 September 2016 03:38:39 Anthony Baldwin wrote: > I don't know what kind any of these USB ports are Have a look at the port and/or the plug. White or black=USB2 and blue=USB3. (We can safely ignore USB1). I have even come across USB2 not working in a USB3 port, even though it shou

side-track of thread to the subject of mailservers was: Re: icedove: failed to connect server x...@gmail.com

On Tuesday 13 September 2016 08:56:47 Lisi Reisz wrote: > I am still trying to figure out why my original reply got so thoroughly > blocked by, I think, Debian's spam filters. So here is the original reply, > with the acronyms replaced by wikipedia links. (For coherent reading,

Re: icedove: failed to connect server x...@gmail.com

I am still trying to figure out why my original reply got so thoroughly blocked by, I think, Debian's spam filters. So here is the original reply, with the acronyms replaced by wikipedia links. (For coherent reading, replace the wikipedia links with teh relevant acronyms) On Friday 09 Septemb

Re: icedove: failed to connect server x...@gmail.com

On Friday 09 September 2016 16:02:42 mudongliang wrote: > Dear all, > > recently I suddenly failed to update my gmail account in > icedove. When I tried to get messages from gmail account in icedove, it > poped up one window : "Failled to connect server x...@gmail.com". There > is no error

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

On Monday 12 September 2016 19:14:53 Alan McConnell wrote: > Maybe I should apologize for "hijacking a thread"? Yes, you should. It has left the person whose thread you have hijacked high and dry. It is most definitely "not done" to hijack threads. By those who care about etiquette and other

Re: How to change size of system font(s)?

On Monday 12 September 2016 13:52:26 Richard Owlett wrote: > The default font in Squeeze(Gnome2) and Jessie(Mate) is too small! > Gedit and Pluma allow changing from default size of "10"[units > not specified]. I find setting to 14 or larger much more legible > on my laptop. > > Other programs, e.g

Re: icedove: failed to connect server x...@gmail.com

Third time lucky? I am using Gmail's SMTP server this time - so I shan't get a copy myself! - This is a duplicate - a check of the archives shows that the original has not got through, and I have been having problems with my IS

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

On Sunday 11 September 2016 20:51:50 Brian wrote: > On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 15:17:00 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote: > > On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 11:13:45 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote: > > > Addendum: during my Jessie install, the install program commented at > > > one point: "There doesn't seem to be any

Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

On Saturday 03 September 2016 05:24:51 Felix Miata wrote: > That's because instead of replying promptly, you waited for Hurricane > Hermine to flood my house. I'm so sorry Felix. Were you nearer I'd say "Let me know if there is anything that I can do." Anyhow, thank you for everything that you

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Wednesday 31 August 2016 19:40:18 Curt wrote: > On 2016-08-31, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 31 August 2016 17:45:07 Curt wrote: > >> as is your own post in which you did not wrap your lines. > > > > Does everyone else agree with this? They are displayi

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Wednesday 31 August 2016 17:45:07 Curt wrote: > as is your own post in which you did not wrap your lines. Does everyone else agree with this? They are displaying wrapped for me, and the setting requires them to wrap and is still set to column 78. (I have just checked.) If they are not wrap

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Wednesday 31 August 2016 17:12:43 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 31 August 2016 17:01:36 Curt wrote: > > On 2016-08-31, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > By participating in this list you implicitly agree to abide by the code > > > of conduct; authority is not granted t

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Wednesday 31 August 2016 17:01:36 Curt wrote: > On 2016-08-31, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > By participating in this list you implicitly agree to abide by the code > > of conduct; authority is not granted to you to decide which parts of it > > you will abide by and which not. > > How about postings

Re: Security Updates

On Wednesday 31 August 2016 16:16:45 Larry Dighera wrote: > Have you even looked at the information here: > ?  After reading > that announcement, how can you continue to insist that I am not running > Debian Jessie? That page (URL) confirm

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Wednesday 31 August 2016 15:45:42 Mark Fletcher wrote: > Well and > good -- actually, very good, because it prevents me making the stupid > mistake I frequently make of cc-ing the poster of the mail I am replying > to. But it doesn't prevent Nicolas from deliberately cc-ing most of the rest of

Re: Security Updates

On Wednesday 31 August 2016 10:39:53 Lisi Reisz wrote: > Since you are not replying to anyhting, you may not be subscribed, I had a reply off list that said that Larry is not replying to our questions because he considers them irrelevant to his original question. Lisi > so here >

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Wednesday 31 August 2016 07:27:51 deloptes wrote: > Use authorized > SMTP servers. mailhost.zen.co.uk https://www.zen.co.uk/ As I said, lucky you. Lisi

Re: Security Updates

Since you are not replying to anyhting, you may not be subscribed, so here is what I said again: On Tuesday 30 August 2016 20:58:47 Larry Dighera wrote: > This page states: > > "If you use APT, add the following line to /etc/apt/sources.list to

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Wednesday 31 August 2016 00:34:47 Brian wrote: > > I, too, have failed to email you, Brian, on one occasion recently. > > I used just the email address that is normally in your From: header. > > The address is valid and one I am entitled to use. However, it looks > like my ISP has fouled somethi

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tuesday 30 August 2016 22:24:04 Brian wrote: > On Tue 30 Aug 2016 at 22:09:51 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Tuesday 30 August 2016 20:26:45 Brian wrote: > > > > I tried to send this to you personally, by both routes readily > > > > available to me, but your em

Re: Security Updates

On Tuesday 30 August 2016 20:58:47 Larry Dighera wrote: > This page states: > > "If you use APT, add the following line to /etc/apt/sources.list to be > able to access the latest security updates: > > deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/upd

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tuesday 30 August 2016 20:26:45 Brian wrote: > > I tried to send this to you personally, by both routes readily available > > to me, but your email set-up kept rejecting it.  So here is my (mild) > > protest publicly. ;-) > > What were the two readily available routes open to you? Which addresse

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tuesday 30 August 2016 19:51:39 Brian wrote: > > So one large and dominating ISP is rejecting emails from an inconvenient, > > smaller, rival because there are "too many" of them. > > Don't follow this either. Because I had to snip the error message. I'll try reporting non-verbatim indirect s

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tuesday 30 August 2016 19:51:39 Brian wrote: > But you allow Zen to determine the nature of > your mails? Since I haven't got my own server I have no choice but to accept it if whatever SMTP server I am using simply rejects the email and refuses to send it. This is the first time it has happ

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

Just out of interest, why have you sent a personal copy of a reply to the Debian list about an email of David Wright's to me, which is an irrelevant flouting of the code of conduct rules??? ;-) It's not like you Brian to make Human Errors. ;-) Lisi I tried to send this to you personally, by b

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

> About reliability - I have not seen recently undelivered mails (except > bounces between gmain and yahoo . Lucky you! Lisi

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tuesday 30 August 2016 18:50:21 deloptes wrote: > I have not seen recently undelivered mails Lucky you! [had to snip quotation from rejecting notification because Zen identified the email as spam!!] So one large and dominating ISP is rejecting emails from an inconvenient, smaller, rival bec

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tuesday 30 August 2016 17:18:10 David Wright wrote: > The unreliability of email is also overreported by people > whose homework, years earlier, was eaten by their dog. Years ago I sent a Guaranteed Delivery Letter to our local Council. They claimed not to have received it. As it was very im

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tuesday 30 August 2016 16:34:25 Dan Purgert wrote: > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Tuesday 30 August 2016 14:05:36 Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> "shocked that anyone would want to design or use an > >>                 unreliable messaging system" > > > >

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tuesday 30 August 2016 14:59:42 Henning Follmann wrote: > However, why email is still reliable, because a proper setup provides you > with a well defined error messages (in case it is not delivered). We have different definitions of reliable!! Being told a day or two later that your email did

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tuesday 30 August 2016 14:05:36 Stefan Monnier wrote: > "shocked that anyone would want to design or use an >                 unreliable messaging system" Email is getting less and less reliable, so have you given up using it?? :-( Lisi

Re: Any idea when CVE-2016-5696 is going to get fixed?

On Monday 29 August 2016 22:44:52 deloptes wrote: > Crazy but fact. IMHO people try to convince themself it will never happen > (to them). I would like to know why and how one could deal with such line > of argumentation. You can't. I live with it! I now just say: please, please, please, if you

Re: debian version ID

On Monday 29 August 2016 20:45:21 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > /etc/debian_version coincidentally adds the minor > release Whatever the reason, it is very helpful to some of us that it does so, so long may it continue to do so!! :-) Thank you for the helpful explanation, Andrew. Lisi

Re: Any idea when CVE-2016-5696 is going to get fixed?

On Friday 26 August 2016 16:13:09 Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 12:04 AM Perry E. Metzger > > wrote: > > According to: > > > > https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2016-5696 > > > > Wheezy and Jessie are still vulnerable. The attack in question is > > kind of bad (it al

Re: Getting fqdn, postfix, Comcast to all play nice together

On Thursday 25 August 2016 19:39:18 John T. Haggerty wrote: > If it's only Gmail, why van I telnet to their port and get their mail > server? > > Seems counterintuitive. Were you expecting Gmail to be either intuitive or logical?? :-o Lisi

Re: Can't install new driver

On Friday 19 August 2016 23:31:11 Brian wrote: > On Fri 19 Aug 2016 at 17:59:06 -0400, Maureen L Thomas wrote: > > Ok, so I got rid of the windows machine and found a card that fit the old > > machine. It needs the rtl_nic driver to work. Fine I have that firmware > > and the needed driver on a U

Re: A minimalist network

On Friday 19 August 2016 14:59:12 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 8/19/2016 8:51 AM, Brian wrote: > > On Fri 19 Aug 2016 at 07:41:56 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> On 8/18/2016 9:04 AM, Brian wrote: > >>> On Thu 18 Aug 2016 at 08:58:23 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 8/17/2016 8:07 PM, David C

Re: A minimalist network

On Friday 19 August 2016 15:08:03 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 8/19/2016 8:54 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 19 August 2016 13:55:39 Richard Owlett wrote: > >> On 8/18/2016 4:13 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >>> On Thursday 18 August 2016 20:46:14 Charlie Kravetz wrote

Re: A minimalist network

On Friday 19 August 2016 13:55:39 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 8/18/2016 4:13 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Thursday 18 August 2016 20:46:14 Charlie Kravetz wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA256 > >> > >> On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:5

Re: A minimalist network

On Thursday 18 August 2016 20:46:14 Charlie Kravetz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:50:23 -0700 > > David Christensen wrote: > >On 08/18/2016 06:58 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> On 8/17/2016 8:07 PM, David Christensen wrote: > >>> 3. Internet

Re: A minimalist network

On Thursday 18 August 2016 16:07:28 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Back in the "good ole days" there used to be a minimum segment / cable > length for an Ethernet cable--I don't recall to what all it applied--i.e., > I don't recall if it applied to thick Ethernet, thin (coax) Ethernet, Cat 5 > and Cat

Re: A minimalist network

On Thursday 18 August 2016 14:58:23 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 8/17/2016 8:07 PM, David Christensen wrote: > > On 08/17/2016 07:45 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> I wish to connect two laptops via Ethernet. > >> > >> The Debian machine is having various configurations of Jessie installed. > >> Consi

Re: A minimalist network

On Thursday 18 August 2016 13:04:39 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 8/17/2016 4:26 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 17 August 2016 21:48:20 Richard Owlett wrote: > >> [snip] > >> The web hits I got for zeroconf indicated it's part of a support > >> packa

Re: A minimalist network

On Wednesday 17 August 2016 22:14:24 Richard Owlett wrote: > Why would I be interested in ssh as both machines are sitting on > my desk and _neither_ will be connected to the internet when > ethernet connection is live? You need to use something to move the files form one machine to another, as h

Re: A minimalist network

On Wednesday 17 August 2016 21:48:20 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 8/17/2016 10:05 AM, der.hans wrote: > > Am 16. Aug, 2016 schwätzte Richard Owlett so: > > > > moin moin Richard, > > > > look at zeroconf. Both machines can independently setup > > networking to talk > > to each other. > > The web hits

Re: A minimalist network

On Wednesday 17 August 2016 22:00:25 Richard Owlett wrote: > If retirement is not for education, what use is it? To retire? Life is for education - retirement is for slowing down. Sadly. Lisi

Re: Compiling Canon LiDE 220 driver from source

On Tuesday 16 August 2016 17:27:10 Brian wrote: > On Tue 16 Aug 2016 at 15:39:00 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Tuesday 16 August 2016 13:49:48 Brian wrote: > > > Mea culpa. Please see the apt-get manual: build-dep (no "s"). > > > > Thanks, both. :-) > &

Re: Compiling Canon LiDE 220 driver from source

On Tuesday 16 August 2016 17:27:10 Brian wrote: > Five .debs are built; only libsane, libsane-common and sane-utils need > to be installed with 'dpkg -i'. Ah! I don't know about senior moments. I need a rest, some sleep and a new brain. Lisi

Re: Compiling Canon LiDE 220 driver from source

On Tuesday 16 August 2016 13:49:48 Brian wrote: > On Tue 16 Aug 2016 at 12:57:50 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 15 August 2016 14:25:58 Brian wrote: > > > A good guide to backporting is at > > > > > > > > > https://raphaelhertzog.co

Re: Compiling Canon LiDE 220 driver from source

On Monday 15 August 2016 14:25:58 Brian wrote: > On Mon 15 Aug 2016 at 14:23:36 +0200, didier gaumet wrote: > > Le 15/08/2016 à 12:42, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > > Thanks, didier. That is nice to know. > > > > > > So it should be in the up-to-date tar ball, i

Re: Compiling Canon LiDE 220 driver from source

On Monday 15 August 2016 14:25:58 Brian wrote: > A good guide to backporting is at > >   https://raphaelhertzog.com/2010/12/15/howto-to-rebuild-debian-packages/ > > A deb-src line in sources.list for unstable is needed to do > >   apt-get source libsane-common/unstable > > Then > >   apt-get build-

Re: Compiling Canon LiDE 220 driver from source

On Monday 15 August 2016 13:23:36 didier gaumet wrote: > Le 15/08/2016 à 12:42, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > Thanks, didier. That is nice to know. > > > > So it should be in the up-to-date tar ball, if I were to succeed in > > sorting that out. But are you suggestin

Re: Compiling Canon LiDE 220 driver from source

On Monday 15 August 2016 08:52:15 didier gaumet wrote: > Le 15/08/2016 à 00:13, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > Although Canon LiDE 220 > > [...] > > > lisi@Eros:~$ lsusb | grep Canon > > Bus 001 Device 003: ID 04a9:190f Canon, Inc. > > lisi@Eros:~$ grep 190f /et

Compiling Canon LiDE 220 driver from source

Although Canon LiDE 220 is supposed to be covered completely, and although I have had very good success with earlier models, I was having major problems with this one, echoed by many on the internet. I tried all the usual tests, culminating in: lisi@Eros:~$ scandisk -L No scanners were identif

Re: Keeping firefox up to date

On Sunday 14 August 2016 21:19:55 Daniel Bareiro wrote: > On 14/08/16 16:40, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > Hi, Gene. > > > It seems the mozilla.wheezy-backports link has been nuked. Can anyone > > tell me where to get the latest FF for wheezy? > > > > Thanks all. > > Did you try using

Re: Keeping firefox up to date

On Sunday 14 August 2016 21:15:40 Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2016-08-14, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > It seems the mozilla.wheezy-backports link has been nuked. Can anyone > > tell me where to get the latest FF for wheezy? > > > > Thanks all. > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > Go to

Re: cannot POST in Icedove

On Friday 12 August 2016 04:26:45 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > On 08/11/2016 10:22 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > On 08/11/2016 10:10 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I am trying to set up icedove on Sid. I only want to use it for > >> Newsgroups, specifically Linux Debian User. > >> >

Re: The Debian/Ubuntu/Mint installer was Re: (OT kinda) Newly-discovered TCP flaw

On Saturday 13 August 2016 04:11:19 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 12 August 2016 19:02:15 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 12 August 2016 16:57:09 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > If that works, I will STFU about their broken installer, if not, > > > that campaign to get

The Debian/Ubuntu/Mint installer was Re: (OT kinda) Newly-discovered TCP flaw

On Friday 12 August 2016 16:57:09 Gene Heskett wrote: > If that works, I will STFU about their broken installer, if not, that > campaign to get it fixed to work with a pre-partitioned disk will > continue. It does in general work with a pre-partitioned disk. Anyhow it works for me, and many othe

Re: Are Debian online manpages down?

On Friday 12 August 2016 09:33:02 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 8/12/2016 3:25 AM, Felix Miata wrote: > > Richard Owlett composed on 2016-08-12 02:49 (UTC-0500): > >>> Simply googling any specific man page WFM for components and > >>> utilities that aren't specific to Debian. > >> > >> I explicitly wa

Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes.......

On Friday 12 August 2016 00:22:50 Rodary Jacques wrote: > As far as I remember, it has nothing to do with the OS, nor with the > browser or the desktop manager but with the windows manager. In 1999 > (perhaps 2000) when Gnome was to be loaded carefully one package at a time, > NextStep or Nautilu

Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes.......

On Friday 12 August 2016 00:24:37 Charlie wrote: > Lisi said that Chromium is probably behaving the way it is because > Windows now uses different viewpoints or desktops or workspaces [I > wouldn't know which]. They call them desktops!!! Your "workspaces" was perfectly comprehensible, and the ge

Re: (OT kinda) Newly-discovered TCP flaw

On Thursday 11 August 2016 20:06:26 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 11 August 2016 15:44:24 Doug wrote: > > On 08/11/2016 12:50 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Thursday 11 August 2016 12:47:09 Nicolas George wrote: > > > CC:ing emc-developers, and trinity-users who may not yet be aware of > > >

Re: my email in box is full of posts from your list

On Thursday 11 August 2016 00:26:12 phil hall wrote: > i had 20 emails from you, all todays posts since i reported a bug. > could you please unsubscribe me as it is just spam traffic > > thanks > > phil If you are subscribed, only you can unsubscribe you: List-Unsubscribe:

Re: Help on investigating partition-related changes

On Wednesday 10 August 2016 00:45:32 Mark Fletcher wrote: > I would hope that most decent mail clients roll up the quoted text and > let you unroll it if you want to read it -- Inbox certainly does. Googlemail Inbox is your definition of a decent email client??? :-0 Lisi

Re: Help

On Tuesday 09 August 2016 21:03:37 limpia wrote: > And no, I am not trimming the text, all to often when people do that, > it makes it hard to make sense of the thread. My attempts at trimming are usually lousy. :-( I was never any good at précis at school either. :-( The main problem with repe

Re: How to get rid of M10

On Tuesday 09 August 2016 14:35:05 Mark Fletcher wrote: > By all means disable "secure boot", > that you will have to do, but it isn't necessary to disable UEFI to get > Debian to install / boot. I would echo this. You leave yourself far more optiosn into teh future if oyu just disable secure bo

Re: How to get rid of M10

On Monday 08 August 2016 23:48:26 Eero Volotinen wrote: > You possibly need to disable secure boot from bios settings. Probably. Lisi > > Eero > > 9.8.2016 1.45 ap. "Maureen L Thomas" kirjoitti: > > I have an acer aspire XC-704G with windows 10 on it. I changed the BIOS > > to boot from CD/DVD

Re: How to get rid of M10

On Monday 08 August 2016 23:12:32 Maureen L Thomas wrote: > I have an acer aspire XC-704G with windows 10 on it. I changed the BIOS > to boot from CD/DVD but all I get is a message to put a boot device in > and reboot. It will not recognize the bootable DVD with Debian on it. > What else do I nee

Re: IceWeasel (Firefox) Update?

On Saturday 06 August 2016 23:23:22 Bob Holtzman wrote: > On Fri, Aug 05, 2016 at 12:24:43AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Thursday 04 August 2016 20:48:41 afamilyofbetatesters hendersonpark wrote: > > > This may not even be possible, but how can I update the IceWeasel >

Re: nosh and redo have moved

On Friday 05 August 2016 22:46:23 Gene Heskett wrote: > Or in the present case, > harassing the OP.  Who seems not inclined to clarify what he alluded to > when he announced both the move and a new version. Which is a most unworthy occupation. You have been told both answers. Jonathan has no ne

Re: nosh and redo have moved

On Friday 05 August 2016 18:25:43 Andre Majorel wrote: > If you use Kmail, you probably don't use Procmail but it takes > more than mere logic to stop me from giving unsolicited advice. I don't often laugh loudly out loud when reading the Debian List. I believe the acronym is approximately ROFLM

Re: nosh and redo have moved

On Friday 05 August 2016 16:40:46 Gene Heskett wrote: > As for noticing the announcements, my expiry rules for this list have > already nuked the last of those messages just 3 or 4 days ago. That is hardly Jonathan's fault. Do you accept only prolific posters? I am sure that there are those o

Re: Limiting internet access by time

On Friday 05 August 2016 11:40:28 Brian wrote: > On Fri 05 Aug 2016 at 00:02:40 +, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > On a stretch box I have, I want to allow access to the Internet between > > the hours of 9am and 9pm and block it between 9pm and 9am. Ideally allow > > local network access throughout bu

Re: IceWeasel (Firefox) Update?

On Thursday 04 August 2016 20:48:41 afamilyofbetatesters hendersonpark wrote: > This may not even be possible, but how can I update the IceWeasel (Firefox) > from 45 (old) to the current 47? I need it on 47 to be able to use a > platform I use instead of skype :) What version of Debian are you usi

SOLVED - I hope! - was: Re: Sound troubles on crashed Jessie on Skylake

On Thursday 04 August 2016 22:43:23 Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Lisi Reisz wrote on 08/04/16 18:27: > > On Thursday 04 August 2016 17:01:01 Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > >> Which sound devices are shown by alsamixer? (See the text on the top > >> left and, maybe, use F2

Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes.......

On Thursday 04 August 2016 20:59:03 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, August 04, 2016 12:32:37 PM Lisi Reisz wrote: > > It wasn't originally. Look at the subject header. I specifically said > > in my original post that I did npt want a falme-war about terminology, &g

Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes.......

On Thursday 04 August 2016 21:01:31 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, August 04, 2016 02:34:15 PM Lisi Reisz wrote: > > It does not apply to the software I use. Why on earth are you so > > determined to argue? > > You don't have to participate in an argument... touchée! ;-) Lisi

Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes.......

On Thursday 04 August 2016 19:06:51 David Wright wrote: > Reviewing your posts, the first sympathetically commiserated with the OP, > the rest seemed to be arguing with those who knew something about fvwm > and were trying to comment on the problem and its possible amelioration. David, that is unf

Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes.......

On Thursday 04 August 2016 17:13:15 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > John Hasler wrote: > > There may be no such thing as a "right name" but there is such a thing > > as a correct name in a technical discussion. > > Reading The Funderful Manual: > > Fvwm provides both, a large virtual desktop and

Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes.......

On Thursday 04 August 2016 17:13:06 John Hasler wrote: > Lisi writes: > > And the authors of the software (DE) I use, use the term desktop > > But the software under discussion is FVWM, which, if I understand > correctly, is not what you use. It would be nice if all the window > manager and deskto

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