Support for the Maxtor Onetouch4 Plus

2009-09-20 Thread Dr. George E. Moore
List, Is there support for the Maxtor Onetouch4 Plus 1TB external drive in Debian 5.0 release? If not, are there 1TB external drives that are supported and is there a plan to support the Maxtor drive in some future releases? gmoore -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.o

Re: Firewall solution.

2009-09-18 Thread Paul E Condon
reasonably functional NAT firewall in a separate box costs about $40, new, and uses a tiny amount of electrical power compared to an old PC that is no longer powerfull enough to run modern software. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Problems with Iceweasel and Flash inside QEMU

2009-09-11 Thread Paul E Condon
have to reboot again, particularly if you have looked tha wiki.debian.org while doing the installs. HTH -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: starting debian wiki in my local language

2009-09-08 Thread Paul E Condon
eir pages. > > > > Regards, > > Andrei > > -- > > If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. > > (Albert Einstein) -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: avoid debian net installerto fetch security and volatile

2009-09-01 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-09-01_22:45:24, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: > 09/01/2009 12:46 AM, Paul E Condon: >>> Yeah, my problem is it is not prompted and forces me to fetch from >>> security and volatile against my wish. >> I'm pretty sure you can say no to security and volatile

Re: avoid debian net installerto fetch security and volatile

2009-08-31 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-08-31_09:16:17, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: > 08/31/2009 07:40 AM, Paul E Condon: >>>> Netinstall coupled to a d-i preseeding file can do the trick. >>>> http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apb.html.en >>> Where to force to use my mirrors? >

Re: avoid debian net installerto fetch security and volatile

2009-08-30 Thread Paul E Condon
ate will preseed your mirror (a very different use of the word 'preseed' ;-) For approx, these are to two lines in approx.conf: securityhttp://security.debian.org/debian-security volatilehttp://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile For debian main, you should point ap

Re: [semi-OT] How to echo \\ in dash

2009-08-28 Thread Paul E Condon
\_/ > A few weeks ago, I asked on this list about 'bashisms', and how I could find out what to do about any that I might have in my scripts. I learned about some programs that purport to scan for bashisms and report them. I ran one of them. The only thing it reported was 'sourc

Re: question about Dash

2009-08-07 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-08-07_11:20:25, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Thu,06.Aug.09, 23:24:18, Paul E Condon wrote: > > Recent mentions of dash on this list prompted me to try to learn more > > about it. I googled and learned that it has a different convention for > > indicating that a file is

question about Dash

2009-08-06 Thread Paul E Condon
hange in Debian. I want to read something, but can't find anything to read. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

about a feature which I found in Gnome

2009-08-06 Thread Paul E Condon
ocumentation. I have lost count of the different variations on network-manager that appear on the screen and in the docs. Not good, IMHO. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe&q

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-06 Thread Paul E Condon
utside world, not merely on my LAN. But I want to set it up on my LAN, and hopefully, prepare it for defending itself in the outside world. I now see wicd in aptitude on the Acer. I did have a problem with access to backports. Thanks to everyone. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanet

a rhetorical question in re. my adventures with wicd

2009-08-06 Thread Paul E Condon
Why is the package debian-backports-keyring not available in the debian stable repository? in the contrib section perhaps, but somewhere that is a verifiable secure repository at the time that a user needs to install it -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-05 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-08-05_15:28:21, Preston Boyington wrote: > Paul E Condon wrote: > > > > > I am having some difficulty with network-manager. Aptitude says it is > > installed on my Acer Aspire one... > > Paul, seriously take a look at wicd. network-manager is now the se

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-05 Thread Paul E Condon
I get "Network Monitor" to report on wireless as well as wired networks? There are plugins to metwork-monitor mentioned in aptitude. Which, if any, might include the functionality that you have? -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: [OT] Freedom vs. entitlement (was Re: HOWTO enhance Debian by removing HAL)

2009-08-04 Thread Paul E Condon
ware that they find uninteresting. HAL is a real boon to authors of successful, meaning well used and popular, software. What surprises me is how long this thread is. I would have thought that your advocacy of a truly silly position would have been quietly ignored. It is a mark of how smoothly things

Re: How to partition and format external disk to ext3

2009-08-03 Thread Paul E Condon
x27;sdb1' > > > > 'man mke2fs' has the documentation. > > > > Cheers, > > Johannes > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iEYEARECAAYFAkp1acoACgkQC1NzPRl9qEVf5QCfdkacYbYSQxQM/QIsMby4Jqxa > > +

question about email delivery triggered by resent thread on musings

2009-07-28 Thread Paul E Condon
me-zone, not my time-zone. Is this so? Can it be changed? Thanks, -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Back up routines

2009-07-27 Thread Paul E Condon
cal computer store near Boulder, CO a few days ago. They are selling IDE disk drives, any size, for $0.25/GB. SATA are even cheaper. So, after just 2mo it would be cheaper to buy than to rent. Renting is easier, but I wonder how long the web based services will be in business. -- Paul E C

Re: remount removeable drive in Lenny - how? [more]

2009-07-21 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-07-21_19:43:09, Tiago Saboga wrote: > Paul E Condon writes: > > I have what I think to be a solution, but the reason it works is now > > suspect because it could not work for you, whose system differs from > > mine in some mystery aspect. What happens if, i

Re: remount removeable drive in Lenny - how? [more]

2009-07-21 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-07-20_22:20:59, Tiago Saboga wrote: > Paulo E Condon: > > I think that the device file is NOT removed. This is what I > > observe. When I umount /dev/sdxn, the mount-point /media/MMMPPP is > > removed, and the device file is remains. This is GOOD because the > &

Re: remount removeable drive in Lenny - how?

2009-07-20 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-07-20_17:13:36, Tiago Saboga wrote: > > Paul E Condon: > > > But, for hal-mounted devices, the umount also deletes the > > > mount-point. > Andrei Popescu: > > The problem seems to be with the volume manager as this does not > > happen under Xfce. M

Re: remount removeable drive in Lenny - how? [solved]

2009-07-19 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-07-19_18:57:40, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sun,19.Jul.09, 08:11:21, Paul E Condon wrote: > > I have no objection to the status of hal as a required part of a > > standard desktop installation, but I do have a question as to how best > > to deal with a peculiar situa

Re: remount removeable drive in Lenny - how?

2009-07-19 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-07-19_16:42:21, Jochen Schulz wrote: > Paul E Condon: > > > > I have several USB hard drives (ones with rotating machinery inside, > > not solid state 'disks'). From time to time I need to perform format > > maintenance on one of them. In order to do

remount removeable drive in Lenny - how?

2009-07-19 Thread Paul E Condon
ucking about. Or is there another way to do the maintenance without umounting? (not likely, I think) -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: X11 without HAL: "DontZap" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't work anymore

2009-07-18 Thread Paul E Condon
e the offending official packages to his liking, and use them locally without all this traffic on this list. IMO, there is no problem with the experts here offering technical suggestions in support of really misguided personal projects. I wonder how many other issues with Debian by how many oth

Re: To mirror a huge tree...

2009-07-16 Thread Paul E Condon
ulk of it is static. Keep repeating the rsync update until you get a clean, no descrepancies, run. Switching to a different disk interface standard (and abandoning the existing 95% solution (?) ) makes no sense to me. HTH > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-req

Re: Vserver networking: to make a forward only. : a comment

2009-07-16 Thread Paul E Condon
h, one way of doing it is > > > to drop all network traffic and then to make rules which only allow > > > traffic for those combinations of IPs, ports and protocols you want to > > > allow traffic for. > > > > Does my script do the very same thing?! > > For

Re: grub won't but XP

2009-07-11 Thread Paul E Condon
rtitions of Windows stuff, you should set up your grub to enable booting from either of them. The Longhorn partition is a crash recovery thingy, which I hope you never have to use, but... And maybe I'm just off-the-wall crazy wrong... HTH -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

reconfigure X

2009-07-05 Thread Paul E Condon
d with the last week. Is monitor/video now in a different package?? What is the trick? TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Need help with sound on Lenny desk-top host

2009-06-27 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-06-27_11:50:02, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Fri,26.Jun.09, 21:24:42, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > > * make sure the sound channel levels are up and unmuted (using > > alsamixer), > > I not sure. alsamixer display did not look familiar and it was not

Need help with sound on Lenny desk-top host

2009-06-26 Thread Paul E Condon
space left on device" Is this behavior what is meant by 'working'? Likely, not, IMHO, but what should be done about it? Suggestions? Other tests? TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.o

Re: DEBIAN REPOSITORIES FOR UBUNTU DAPPER ?

2009-06-21 Thread Paul E Condon
you are confident that you are expert in both. HTH begin:vcard fn:Paul E Condon n:;Paul E Condon email;internet:pecon...@mesanetworks.net x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard

Question aout email, icedove/thunderbird

2009-06-18 Thread Paul E Condon
ail client." Where have I set my default main client? TIA begin:vcard fn:Paul E Condon n:;Paul E Condon email;internet:pecon...@mesanetworks.net x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard

Re: Question about Installing Lenny on a laptop

2009-06-18 Thread Cláudio E. Elicker
On Wednesday 17 June 2009, Petrus Validus wrote: ... > Usually I just install the base and build from there (on desktops) but > since I'm on a laptop I'm wondering what tools and packages are part of > the "Laptop" selection? Try this: aptitude search '~tlaptop' For more information look here:

puzzled about cron and anacron

2009-06-17 Thread Paul E Condon
I am setting up a cron job to do a daily backup of files on disk. I have put a call to the backup program in /etc/cron.daily and it does run daily, but not at the time that I would like it to run. The puzzle is that /etc/crontab specifies that the jobs in /etc/cron.daily should be run starting a

Re: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace disabled?

2009-05-31 Thread Paul E Condon
Debian was apparently unaware of the existence of the su command. He apparently believed that sudo was the only way to gain access to super-user rights, and was distraut when it didn't work on his new Debian Lenny installation. He asked a question that was totally misunderstood because

Re: iceweasel preferences help needed

2009-05-28 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-05-28_14:27:08, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Paul E Condon > wrote: > > I have a desire to have iceweasel work in a way that seems not easy > > to configure: > > > > Now, when iceweasel starts, the text and graphics are always

iceweasel preferences help needed

2009-05-28 Thread Paul E Condon
e a similar issue with Gnome Terminal. Are both of these controlled by a single preference in Gnome? What is it called? How do I access it? TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsub

Re: hi, all, help me with debian installation!!

2009-05-28 Thread Paul E Condon
windows/D: > >? > > I want to install debian in the exist /home and / partitions. > >? > >? > > can only body help me??? > >? > > thanks very much! > >? > > When you get to "Partion disk" choose "Manual Partitionning"

Re: Does the vfat partition need defrag under Gnu/Linux ?

2009-05-28 Thread Paul E Condon
drive.) 6) When mke2fs finishes (wait, be sure it is finished), unplug the newly formatted disk, wait a few seconds and plug it in again. It should mount automatically with it's new volume name. Copy the data back onto it from wherever you saved it in step (2) HTH -- Paul E Condon

Re: Is gnome built on top of twm?

2009-05-26 Thread Paul E Condon
hat is the place where you probably first indicated that you wanted an window/gui environment. What does tasksel, acting as your agent, tell apt-get/dpkg to actually install? Maybe twm is in the list. Just my guess. I love Debian. The Debian magicians (deliberately?) leave the curtain imperfectly c

Re: Rogue Filename - Can't Do A Thing With It

2009-05-25 Thread Paul E Condon
> that computer anyway to run fsck, so I just waited to try it from a direct > keyboard instead of remotely. > > MC didn't do anything the others didn't do. > > What did work was that fsck detected illegal characters in the filename, > so the first "?" (at least t

Re: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux)

2009-05-22 Thread Paul E Condon
t a short interlude in which you can contemplate why you messed up. No need to explain it to anyone. Cheers, -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Debian and the future: IPv6

2009-05-22 Thread Paul E Condon
e things, like World Peace, that has been in future and likely always will be --- in the future? I don't feel any need for IPv6. I'm just wondering when, if ever, I will need to confront it as a new reality in daily life. TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- T

Re: Safe change of uid

2009-05-12 Thread Elmer E. Dow
I executed deluser --remove-all-files --backup and it searched for files to remove and backed up three files from the user's home directory -- but it left the user's home directory in place with its contents. The group and user were deleted, so the remaining files have owners of "500" -- the

Re: Safe change of uid

2009-05-11 Thread Elmer E. Dow
Alex Samad wrote: On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 05:29:04PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 08:54:47AM -0500, Elmer E. Dow wrote: Just finished a fresh Lenny install and added an account for my daughter -- and kuser assigned it uid 500 instead of 1001, which I must

Re: Safe change of uid

2009-05-11 Thread Elmer E. Dow
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 08:54:47AM -0500, Elmer E. Dow wrote: Just finished a fresh Lenny install and added an account for my daughter -- and kuser assigned it uid 500 instead of 1001, which I must correct. After looking at man pages and archives, I see that kuser

Safe change of uid

2009-05-11 Thread Elmer E. Dow
the version used in Lenny? Is usermod a better option for dealing with this situation or would deleting and recreating the account -- either using kuser or userdel -- be the simplest and best method? Please cc me as I am not currently subscribing to the list. Elmer E. Dow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Sound woes

2009-05-09 Thread Dale E. Martin
changing the wrapper to "auto". See /usr/share/doc/iceweasel/README.Debian for more info. I don't know anything about how PulseAudio and the setting in this config file relate to each other, so sorry if this doesn't help! Regards, Dale -- Dale E. Martin - d...@the-ma

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-04-23 Thread Paul E Condon
nserned about how best to use --get-selections output might well study the aptitude document in greater detail than I have. What I have done for my systems is to include these files/directories in my nightly backup of each of my systems. I've sort of subsumed the meat of their idea into a larger backup system. I haven't tested rebuilding a system that crashed and burned form by nightly backups, but I'm sure that I'll be better off with these files than without them if I ever have to rebuild from scratch. HTH -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: debiantutorials.org seeks input and new blood

2009-04-21 Thread Paul E Condon
> While I do not consider this isolated message spam, I will consider it > spam if this becomes a phenomenon. Let's not let that happen. I am > serious, and I have access to automatic weapons. > > -- > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > http://gibberish.co.il >

ethernet card, the debian way ?

2009-04-17 Thread Paul E Condon
to setting up a LAN connection on the add-on LAN card? Since I think I have good reason to believe that the built-in has gone bad, I would like to have it skipped over during all setup. How? I can't exactly remove it. It seems to be soldered in place. TIA -- Paul E Condon

Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping . ...

2009-04-16 Thread e s
Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping . ... anyone have a clue? just installed a new kernel. with update-grub menu.lst is updated just fine with new kernel all is set default in menu.lst but splash image do not update? how do I link it? I have a double boot -windows on first par

Re: Time keeps on slippin, slippin... (serious clock drift; suggestions??)

2009-04-15 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-04-15_07:24:03, John Hasler wrote: > Paul E Condon writes: > > Look into the package chrony. > > I agree that he should install Chrony (everyone should :)) but I think he > has more wrong than just an outlier crystal. Four minutes per hour is > 66,667 parts per

Re: Time keeps on slippin, slippin... (serious clock drift; suggestions??)

2009-04-14 Thread Paul E Condon
ime closes gradually to zero, the keep tweeking the rate to keep the setting correct. It starts off getting ntp time frequently and as it learns what parameters are needed to correct for the local clock as manufactured. It backs off on the frequency of its ntp queries. All in all, a remarkably w

Update-alternatives questions

2009-04-13 Thread Paul E Condon
ecently installed a package that is new to be? TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Question about ext2/3 directory lookups

2009-04-07 Thread Paul E Condon
, and need to decide how to organize them. There won't be much activity. It will be an archive, but linked list would probably be unacceptable for this number of files even in an archive. (User would forget why he want to look at the file before it finally opened ;-) Advise welcome. -- Paul E C

Re: Flash Player Pkg?

2009-04-04 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-04-05_01:36:32, Francisco Ant?nio da Silva Souza wrote: > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Paul E Condon > wrote: > Well I am having problems with gpg. The FAQ tells me to click on > a hotlink. When I do that a pop-up called Archive Manager offers > to store the downl

Re: Flash Player Pkg?

2009-04-04 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-04-04_21:11:05, Francisco Ant?nio da Silva Souza wrote: > On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Paul E Condon > wrote: > > > What is the package to install to get adobe flash player in Lenny? I > > think I read that its name is 'flashplayer-nonfree', but I fi

Flash Player Pkg?

2009-04-04 Thread Paul E Condon
What is the package to install to get adobe flash player in Lenny? I think I read that its name is 'flashplayer-nonfree', but I find only flashplayer-nonfree-extrasound, which doesn't strike me as what I want (wrong name, etc.) TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetwor

question about grub-install

2009-04-01 Thread Paul E Condon
go with whatever it has already found? "info grub-install" is no help. It seems to be identical to the man page. Lastly, will the answers change for grub2? TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.or

Re: checking integrity of already written CD/DVD more info

2009-04-01 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-04-01_10:34:41, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 31.03.09 12:57, Paul E Condon wrote: > > I did an experiment with the drive that always truncated the dd read > > of the CD. The iso is lenny business card. This iso is 18133 blocks > > of 2048 bytes each. The read

Re: Installing Squeeze testing

2009-04-01 Thread Paul E Condon
with a disk from that era. Also, traditionally, install disk are one of the last things to be gotten working proir to release, and Squeeze is not about to be released, I think. Perhaps you should install Lenny from a newly downloaded netinst, and then dist-upgrade, or whatever, to Squeeze.

Re: checking integrity of already written CD/DVD more info

2009-03-31 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-31_08:18:16, Paul E Condon wrote: > On 2009-03-31_09:53:51, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > >On Sun,29.Mar.09, 20:28:44, Angelin Lalev wrote: > > > >> Is there a way to check a written DVD against the checksum of the iso > > > >> image

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-31 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-31_08:25:57, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2009-03-30 21:47, Paul E Condon wrote: >> On 2009-03-30_18:57:33, Ron Johnson wrote: > [snip] >>> >>> Whoever decided on an epoch of 1970-01-01 00:00:00 was extraordinarily >>> shortsighted, tho

Re: checking integrity of already written CD/DVD

2009-03-31 Thread Paul E Condon
as no remainder.) My problems with the beautiful one or two line checking script are indicative of a little extra complexity here. Manufacturers don't, apparently, guarantee reliable, accurate end-of-file checking. If you are unlucky and have hardware with unreliable EOF sensing, you need

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-30 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-30_18:57:33, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2009-03-30 17:47, Paul E Condon wrote: >> On 2009-03-30_16:21:39, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> On 2009-03-30 15:50, Paul E Condon wrote: >>>> On 2009-03-29_11:15:15, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> [snip] >>>>&

Re: [OT] To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-30 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-30_16:39:46, Mike Bird wrote: > On Mon March 30 2009 16:12:57 Tom Furie wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 04:47:38PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > Now, I want to stop arguing about the descriptions. But just one last > > > shot. I believe it is factuall

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-30 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-31_00:12:57, Tom Furie wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 04:47:38PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > Now, I want to stop arguing about the descriptions. But just one last > > shot. I believe it is factually incorrect to say that you 'lose an > > hour&#

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-30 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-30_16:21:39, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2009-03-30 15:50, Paul E Condon wrote: >> On 2009-03-29_11:15:15, Ron Johnson wrote: > [snip] >>> If you only have Linux on your computer, then it's clock is most >>> likely UTC. >> >> On a Linux comput

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-30 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-31_07:58:03, Alex Samad wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 02:50:55PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > On 2009-03-29_11:15:15, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On 2009-03-29 10:49, Paul E Condon wrote: > > >> On 2009-03-29_22:29:41, Strong and Humble wrote

Question about proxy servers for debian packages

2009-03-30 Thread Paul E Condon
ences matter? And, are there any other proxy servers for packages that I haven't found, and are worth while? TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trou

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-30 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-29_11:15:15, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2009-03-29 10:49, Paul E Condon wrote: >> On 2009-03-29_22:29:41, Strong and Humble wrote: >>> Good day. >>> >>> Just wanted to know if it is possible to specify a time zone that has >>> no winter time

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-30 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-30_09:41:58, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:13:12PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > Paul E Condon writes: > > > The current standard is better described as a de-jure standard, IMHO. > > > Didn't Congress pass a law on this issue? > &g

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-30 Thread Paul E Condon
ly offsets as a starting point for patching in new legal/local logic. I appreciate them giving it mnemonic names and making it available for general use, via the Etc designation. I am continually amazed by Debian. Every day in every way it gets better and better. -- Paul E Condon pecon.

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-29_16:01:29, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2009-03-29 14:05, Paul E Condon wrote: >> On 2009-03-29_13:06:18, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> On 2009-03-29 11:49, Paul E Condon wrote: >>> [snip] >>>> A few weeks ago, my Lenny system switched over from displaying t

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-29_20:58:05, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2009-03-29 20:47, Paul E Condon wrote: >> On 2009-03-30_10:31:27, Alex Samad wrote: >>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:49:22AM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: >>>> On 2009-03-29_16:19:28, Lisi Reisz wrote: >>>>> O

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-30_10:31:27, Alex Samad wrote: > On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:49:22AM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > On 2009-03-29_16:19:28, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Sunday 29 March 2009 17:07:54 Paul E Condon wrote: > > > > On 2009-03-29_09:59:49, John Hasler wrote: >

Re: checking integrity of already written CD/DVD

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
e fussiness, but not since Etch, or maybe Sarge. And it is hardware dependent. It should be possible to automate with a script, but I haven't tried. I only burn CDs when Debian issues a new release, so its not high on my to-do list. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-29_11:53:57, John Hasler wrote: > Paul E Condon writes: > > I'm not OP, but I think I also want what, I believe, he wants, namely: A > > locale that I can select that will give me text displays of the time, and > > text displays of file mtimes that do not me

Re: rsync mirrors of debian CD How?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-29_16:45:05, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 09:36:17AM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > On 2009-03-29_06:07:29, Thorny wrote: > > > On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:01:17 -0600, Paul E Condon posted: > > > > > > > I see a lis

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-29_17:14:44, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 29 March 2009 17:49:22 Paul E Condon wrote: > > On 2009-03-29_16:19:28, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Sunday 29 March 2009 17:07:54 Paul E Condon wrote: > > > > On 2009-03-29_09:59:49, John Hasler wrote: >

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-29_13:06:18, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2009-03-29 11:49, Paul E Condon wrote: > [snip] >> >> A few weeks ago, my Lenny system switched over from displaying time in MST >> (Mountain Standard Time) to MDT (Mountain Daylight Time). It did this, I >> belie

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-29_16:19:28, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 29 March 2009 17:07:54 Paul E Condon wrote: > > On 2009-03-29_09:59:49, John Hasler wrote: > > > Strong and Humble writes: > > > > Just wanted to know if it is possible to specify a time zone that has > >

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
the spread of computers in the sixties and seventies, I had hoped that limitations of technology might kill summer-time. Instead, computer technology has become an enabler of a feature of my culture that I do not like. And let's see what OP was really asking for also. -- Paul E Condon

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
in the US was 'summer time' as opposed to 'standard time', which now in the US is used for only a few weeks in the depths of winter. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: rsync mirrors of debian CD How?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-29_06:07:29, Thorny wrote: > On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:01:17 -0600, Paul E Condon posted: > > > I see a list of rsync mirrors for an install CD at www.debian.org. I am > > running Lenny and have rsync installed. I have successfully used rsync to > > do backups loca

Re: thunderbird and evolution

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-29_00:49:55, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2009-03-28 23:31, Paul E Condon wrote: > [snip] >> >> Daniel, A word of caution about imap. I have been following the mutt-users >> list recently. There is a lot of traffic about getting mutt to work with >> imap. It se

rsync mirrors of debian CD How?

2009-03-28 Thread Paul E Condon
re on www.debian.org? Where? TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: thunderbird and evolution

2009-03-28 Thread Paul E Condon
first choice MUA is mutt, and you are looking for advice about use evo/tbird without letting them mess up your mutt mail setup, switching to imap doesn't seem to me to be a step you will be happy with. At least read a bit of the mutt-users list archives before you try it. HTH -- Paul E C

Re: Question about get-selections - a little story

2009-03-27 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-27_17:43:22, green wrote: > Paul E Condon wrote at 2009-03-27 16:35 -0600: > > On 2009-03-27_13:53:14, green wrote: > > > I think I have minimally tested these commands, but it has been a while. > > > It > > > would be great if someone could try

Re: Touchpad hangs on Lenny

2009-03-27 Thread Paul E Condon
"auto-dev" > Option "HorizScrollDelta" "0" > Option "SHMConfig" "on" > EndSection > > > Section "ServerLayout" > InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad" > Option "AIGL

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-27 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-27_13:53:14, green wrote: > Paul E Condon wrote at 2009-03-27 09:26 -0600: > > Now, the discussion has moved to how to query the packaging system to > > get the most useful file of information. I'm still not sure what the > > query string should be. > &

Re: mounting filesystems in Gnome

2009-03-27 Thread Paul E Condon
ime to eliminate one future annoyance. I would not use Gnome to do either of tasks, using backslashes or using ext2/3. I can't abide anything that smacks of Windows, so I really don't recommend backslashes as file separators, and I puzzled as to why Gnome offers a user the opportunity to

Re: time server

2009-03-27 Thread Paul E Condon
ocale for each year in the past? For instance, time/dates from early March in the Mountain time zone were in MDT this year but should not be treated as MDT for the year 1980. How could an investigator, or historian/archivist, deal with this? I said OT up front, didn't I? -- Paul E Condon

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-27 Thread Paul E Condon
ich I might imitate, now that I am aware of it, even if /etc/apt/ is also a safe place. Now, the discussion has moved to how to query the packaging system to get the most useful file of information. I'm still not sure what the query string should be. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-27 Thread Paul E Condon
I'm convinced that the suggestion is worthwhile, but I'm having difficulty following it. See below. On 2009-03-27_16:33:11, Owen Townend wrote: > 2009/3/27 Paul E Condon : > > On 2009-03-26_19:08:32, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > >> > >> Many of those packages w

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-26 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-26_19:08:32, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 04:26:12PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > But I think I would like to have a record of what packages were > > actually installed. So I'm thinking of writing a script, to be run > > nightly,

Question about get-selections

2009-03-26 Thread Paul E Condon
he ethernet. So my question: Is one of the many scripts that are part of a standard Debian system nightly backup already making a fresh daily copy of the selections and stashing somewhere (perhaps in var?) ? TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email t

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