On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 11:07:16 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
> 15.04.2012 00:53, Camaleón kirjoitti: <...>
>>
>> P.S. I find quite hard to understand why there are users who despite
>> consider my postings to be sort a "newbie killers" and "soft-mind
>> perverters" are still replying to them. The
15.04.2012 00:53, Camaleón kirjoitti:
<...>
>
> P.S. I find quite hard to understand why there are users who despite
> consider my postings to be sort a "newbie killers" and "soft-mind
> perverters" are still replying to them. The only conclusion I can reach
> for this behaviour is that: 1/ my
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 02:59:02 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 05:03:41PM +, Camaleón wrote:
>> «In the interleaved reply style (also called "inline reply", "point-by-
>> point rebuttal", or, sometimes, "bottom posting")...»
>^^
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 05:03:41PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> «In the interleaved reply style (also called "inline reply", "point-by-
> point rebuttal", or, sometimes, "bottom posting")...»
^^^
> «In the "bottom-posting" style, the reply is appended to
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 01:38:59PM -0700, Al Eridani wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Chris Bannister
> wrote:
>
> > But you said above, and I quote:
> >
> > 'A bottom posting style does not mean "all the stuff goes to the bottom"
> >
> > and now you are saying in response to
> >
> > "So
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:18:28 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 11 apr 12, 17:03:41, Camaleón wrote:
>>
>> «In the "bottom-posting" style, the reply is appended to a full or
>> partial copy of the original message. The name bottom-posting is
>> sometimes used for inline-style replies, and inde
On Mi, 11 apr 12, 17:03:41, Camaleón wrote:
>
> «In the "bottom-posting" style, the reply is appended to a full or
> partial copy of the original message. The name bottom-posting is
> sometimes used for inline-style replies, and indeed the two formats are
> the same when only one point is being
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
> On 11.04.2012 19:29, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Du, 08 apr 12, 12:27:56, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
> >>
> >> I promise to move to PGP/MIME (with clients which are compatible with
> >> it) when you have told me how do I verify PGP/MIME signature manuall
In linux.debian.user, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> But you mentioned mutt in the other post, does slrn use mutt for=20
> posting? Mutt has no trouble reply'ing even to it's own bad messages.
I am reading in slrn, which is configured to use mutt to reply.
Unfortunately, the mailtonews gateway is stri
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:51:48 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 11 apr 12, 15:44:29, Camaleón wrote:
>>
>> > Just because somebody chooses to stay out of this thread does not
>> > mean one automatically agrees with you ;)
>>
>> It's not *me* who says so, it's written in the Wikipedia article,
On Mi, 11 apr 12, 15:44:29, Camaleón wrote:
>
> > Just because somebody chooses to stay out of this thread does not mean
> > one automatically agrees with you ;)
>
> It's not *me* who says so, it's written in the Wikipedia article, you
> will have to ask the author why he/she thinks so :-)
That
On Mi, 11 apr 12, 11:11:57, Indulekha wrote:
> In linux.debian.user, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> > Unless you went out of your way to include the signature in the reply=20
> > there is a bug somewhere that needs to be fixed.
> >
>
> Forgot to mention, I do read this list on usenet via slrn --
>
On Wednesday 11 April 2012 17:06:15 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 08 apr 12, 11:32:54, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> > When you send mail that is important it be reliably attributed to you -
> > make sure you sign it properly, with a published key endorsed by a
> > well-known (easily verifiable) chain o
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Du, 08 apr 12, 12:15:49, PMA wrote:
P.S. I may as well add here, that it would help me -- in opening a
Debian list email -- *not* to see blank lines at the top of the
message (like the two at top here). They're what I have to
fight, as they
On 11.04.2012 19:29, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 08 apr 12, 12:27:56, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
>>
>> I promise to move to PGP/MIME (with clients which are compatible with
>> it) when you have told me how do I verify PGP/MIME signature manually. I
>> have been trying to do it for 45 minutes withou
In linux.debian.user, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> Unless you went out of your way to include the signature in the reply=20
> there is a bug somewhere that needs to be fixed.
>
Forgot to mention, I do read this list on usenet via slrn --
in case that might have something to do with it...
Stuck on d
On Du, 08 apr 12, 12:27:56, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
>
> I promise to move to PGP/MIME (with clients which are compatible with
> it) when you have told me how do I verify PGP/MIME signature manually. I
> have been trying to do it for 45 minutes without getting anything else
> than message about BAD
In linux.debian.user, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
[note: obnoxious superfluous quoting not edited out,for the sake of
illustration]
>
> --H4SyuGOnfnj3aJqJ
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Disposition: inline
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> On Sb, 07 apr 12, 18:52:
On 11.04.2012 19:06, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 08 apr 12, 11:32:54, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>>
>> When you send mail that is important it be reliably attributed to you -
>> make sure you sign it properly, with a published key endorsed by a
>> well-known (easily verifiable) chain of trust.
>
>
On Du, 08 apr 12, 12:15:49, PMA wrote:
>
> P.S. I may as well add here, that it would help me -- in opening a
> Debian list email -- *not* to see blank lines at the top of the
> message (like the two at top here). They're what I have to
> fight, as they beckon, "Now y'all
On Du, 08 apr 12, 11:32:54, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>
> When you send mail that is important it be reliably attributed to you -
> make sure you sign it properly, with a published key endorsed by a
> well-known (easily verifiable) chain of trust.
I hereby apologize to the list for not living close
On Sb, 07 apr 12, 18:52:08, Indulekha wrote:
>
> No downside at all then, eh?
Mutt used to have a flea (bug) that would incorrectly set
disposition=inline on pgp/mime attachments, but Joey seems to be using a
fixed version.
Unless you went out of your way to include the signature in the reply
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 18:26:12 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Lu, 09 apr 12, 13:34:59, Camaleón wrote:
>>
>> To me (and everybody else), both are almost the same.
>
> Could you please explain the "everybody else" part?
As I guess you've followed the whole thread, what's exactly what you
don't
On Lu, 09 apr 12, 13:34:59, Camaleón wrote:
>
> To me (and everybody else), both are almost the same.
Could you please explain the "everybody else" part?
Just because somebody chooses to stay out of this thread does not mean
one automatically agrees with you ;)
Kind regards,
Andrei
--
Offtopi
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 18:30:29 -0500, Bob Proulx wrote:
No one gains anything from it. Why does anyone do any of the bad
things that they do? But that doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.
People do spoof messages. It is a fact.
If I am good for nothing else in this life then at least I can b
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Chris Bannister
wrote:
> But you said above, and I quote:
>
> 'A bottom posting style does not mean "all the stuff goes to the bottom"
>
> and now you are saying in response to
>
> "So what's it called when you plonk everything at the bottom, oops
> sorry, at the
Scott Ferguson wrote:
Hopefully ending this thread, and providing reading material for others
with similar queries and concerns.
Amen.
Icedove => Toolbar => Account Settings => Composition and Addressing
Tick "Automatically quote the original message when replying" and select
"then start my
On Mon, 09 Apr 2012 06:48:23 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 02:18:48PM +, Camaleón wrote:
(...)
>> > So what's it called when you plonk everything at the bottom, oops
>> > sorry, at the very end? End posting?
>>
>> That's also "bottom posting". No need to reinvent t
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:09:36PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Sun 08 Apr 2012 at 16:33:42 -0500, Indulekha wrote:
>
> > In linux.debian.user, Brian wrote:
> > >
> > > I posted about a printer problem. Over 120 responses are on another
> > > topic. Is that bad manners or just the way people behave o
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 10:03:21AM +0100, Lisi wrote:
> On Sunday 08 April 2012 23:06:24 Chris Bannister wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 07:28:56PM +0100, keith mckenzie wrote:
> > > Decided the easiest way to stop the annoyance of 'Mika Suomalainen', is
> > > to send his messages straight to 't
On Sunday 08 April 2012 23:06:24 Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 07:28:56PM +0100, keith mckenzie wrote:
> > Decided the easiest way to stop the annoyance of 'Mika Suomalainen', is
> > to send his messages straight to 'trash'. No more half page fulls of
> > meaningless numbers/lett
On 09/04/12 07:33, Indulekha wrote:
> In linux.debian.user, Brian wrote:
>>
>> I posted about a printer problem. Over 120 responses are on another
>> topic. Is that bad manners or just the way people behave on a Debian
>> mailing list?
:-D
>>
>
> So IOW you started all this, but now the people
Hopefully ending this thread, and providing reading material for others
with similar queries and concerns.
On 09/04/12 02:15, PMA wrote:
>
>
> Scott Ferguson wrote:
>
> P.S. I may as well add here, that it would help me -- in opening a
> Debian list email -- *not* to see blank lines at the
On 09/04/12 01:55, Chris Bannister wrote:
>
> [I've posted my reply on d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org]
>
> On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:46:11PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>
> (...)
>
> Interested parties ... please head to
> d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org
>
>
http:
On 09/04/12 01:32, Joey Hess wrote:
> Scott Ferguson wrote (remainder of your trolling ignored):
>>> as this will habituate people to expect your mail to be signed,
>>
>> Nope. Wishful thinking at best.
>
> True story: Last weekend, I sent a friend an email to get him come
> help me move a couch.
For the record on this issue, here is my opinion.
1) A reply should be entered immediately below
the text to which it specifically responds;
2) a signature, of whatever kind, should be no
longer than needed to verify sender identity.
I will not defend these assertions, and hope to
say no
On 04/08/2012 02:28 PM, keith mckenzie wrote:
> Decided the easiest way to stop the annoyance of 'Mika Suomalainen', is
> to send his messages straight to 'trash'. No more half page fulls of
> meaningless numbers/letters,& no more requests for confirmation; life
> has returned to normal. :)
>
>
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 14:11:23 -0500, Indulekha wrote:
> In linux.debian.user, keith mckenzie wrote:
>> Decided the easiest way to stop the annoyance of 'Mika Suomalainen',
>> is to send his messages straight to 'trash'. No more half page fulls of
>> meaningless numbers/letters,& no more requests
In linux.debian.user, Brian wrote:
> On Sun 08 Apr 2012 at 16:33:42 -0500, Indulekha wrote:
>
>> In linux.debian.user, Brian wrote:
>> >
>> > I posted about a printer problem. Over 120 responses are on another
>> > topic. Is that bad manners or just the way people behave on a Debian
>> > mailing
Wayne Topa wrote:
> Mika Suomalainen wrote:
> > Do you think that it would be better if people spoofed my email and
> > sent offensive messages to the list and noone had any way to check did
> > I really sent those messages?
>
> Who would want to spoof YOUR Mail.
>
> I have been on this list for
On 20120407_143810, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 09:21:44AM -0500, Indulekha wrote:
> > In linux.debian.user, Richard wrote:
> > > On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 14:02:12 +0300
> > > Mika Suomalainen wrote:
> > >
> > > The other thing Mika, apart from that huge chunk of signature, why on
On Sun 08 Apr 2012 at 16:33:42 -0500, Indulekha wrote:
> In linux.debian.user, Brian wrote:
> >
> > I posted about a printer problem. Over 120 responses are on another
> > topic. Is that bad manners or just the way people behave on a Debian
> > mailing list?
> >
>
> So IOW you started all this,
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 07:28:56PM +0100, keith mckenzie wrote:
> Decided the easiest way to stop the annoyance of 'Mika Suomalainen', is to
> send his messages straight to 'trash'. No more half page fulls of meaningless
> numbers/letters,& no more requests for confirmation; life has returned to
In linux.debian.user, Brian wrote:
>
> I posted about a printer problem. Over 120 responses are on another
> topic. Is that bad manners or just the way people behave on a Debian
> mailing list?
>
So IOW you started all this, but now the people discussing it
have "bad manners"? That doesn't quit
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 12:55:11AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> On 09/04/12 00:18, � wrote:
> > On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 15:47:51 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 02:58:24PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> >
> > A bottom posting style does not mean "all the stuff goes to t
On Fri 30 Mar 2012 at 18:53:09 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
> There are many kinds of people, so everyone has different opinion
> about top/bottom posting :)
And where better to express these opinions but on a technically oriented
list like debian-user. Nine days and 120+ posts later the end is
In linux.debian.user, keith mckenzie wrote:
> Decided the easiest way to stop the annoyance of 'Mika Suomalainen',
> is to send his messages straight to 'trash'. No more half page fulls
> of meaningless numbers/letters,& no more requests for confirmation;
> life has returned to normal. :)
Th
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 02:18:48PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 15:47:51 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 02:58:24PM +, Camaleón wrote:
>
> >> >> A bottom posting style does not mean "all the stuff goes to the
> >> >> bottom"
> >> >
> >> > Yes it do
Decided the easiest way to stop the annoyance of 'Mika Suomalainen', is to send his
messages straight to 'trash'. No more half page fulls of meaningless
numbers/letters,& no more requests for confirmation; life has returned to
normal. :)
--
Sent from Free Open Source Software
Debian GNU/Li
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Hash: SHA1
On 08.04.2012 21:13, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
<...>
>
>
> I know that email clients can do it automatically, but there are
> rare cases when it's necessary to verify signatures manually.
>
Oh, and people who want to make the issue that PGP/MIME supp
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On 08.04.2012 18:12, Chris Bannister wrote:
<...>
> The mail client should do all that for you.
>
>> Verifying PGP/MIME signature = ?
>
> ditto.
>
> I use the mutt email client and so don't know off hand but do any
> of these help:
>
> http://ask.m
Lisi wrote:
On Sunday 08 April 2012 17:15:49 PMA wrote:
P.S. I may as well add here, that it would help me -- in opening a
Debian list email -- *not* to see blank lines at the top of the
message (like the two at top here). They're what I have to
fight, as they bec
On Sunday 08 April 2012 17:15:49 PMA wrote:
> P.S. I may as well add here, that it would help me -- in opening a
> Debian list email -- *not* to see blank lines at the top of the
> message (like the two at top here). They're what I have to
> fight, as they beckon, "Now
Scott Ferguson wrote:
...
Which part of "my bad - I'd mistaken you for someone trolling" did you
not understand? You're too quick to claim offence.
I know this last is true. If caught in it I've offended you 'too', I'm
sorry.
The LilyPond list (a digital-music-scoring site)
had been deb
[I've posted my reply on d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org]
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:46:11PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
(...)
Interested parties ... please head to
d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org
--
"Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet."
Scott Ferguson wrote (remainder of your trolling ignored):
> > as this will habituate people to expect your mail to be signed,
>
> Nope. Wishful thinking at best.
True story: Last weekend, I sent a friend an email to get him come
help me move a couch. For complex reasons I neglected to sign it. M
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 03:07:40PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
> Configuring Icedove to use PGP/MIME is just two clicks. If you read
> all messages, you know that I will move to PGP/MIME when anyone on
> this list explains to me how do I manually verify signature with PGP/MIME.
>
> Verifying IN
On 09/04/12 00:32, PMA wrote:
> Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 08/04/12 23:54, PMA wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I was caught up thinking how a personal signature -- choosing in a
>>> given instance to enter it or not -- can affect a message's import,
>>> separately from the issue of verification.
>>
>> Oh good -
In linux.debian.user, Chris Bannister wrote:
>
> No, you are confused. There are three entirely different distinct styles:
> 1) Top posting
> 2) Bottom posting
> 3) Interleaved, inline, conversation. style.
>
> Therefore, it makes sense to have *THREE* different definitions.
> correct?
>
There are
On 09/04/12 00:18, � wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 15:47:51 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 02:58:24PM +, Camaleón wrote:
>
> A bottom posting style does not mean "all the stuff goes to the
> bottom"
Yes it does! That is what bottom posting is.
>>>
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 08/04/12 23:54, PMA wrote:
I was caught up thinking how a personal signature -- choosing in a
given instance to enter it or not -- can affect a message's import,
separately from the issue of verification.
Oh good - I couldn't get my head around it when applied to a d
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 12:27:56PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
> If GPG INLINE signature is so big problem to everyone on this list, lets
> make agreement.
>
> I promise to move to PGP/MIME (with clients which are compatible with
> it) when you have told me how do I verify PGP/MIME signature ma
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 15:47:51 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 02:58:24PM +, Camaleón wrote:
>> >> A bottom posting style does not mean "all the stuff goes to the
>> >> bottom"
>> >
>> > Yes it does! That is what bottom posting is.
>>
>> No sir, is just the name what i
On 08/04/12 23:54, PMA wrote:
> I was caught up thinking how a personal signature -- choosing in a
> given instance to enter it or not -- can affect a message's import,
> separately from the issue of verification.
Oh good - I couldn't get my head around it when applied to a digital
signature u
Chris Bannister wrote:
Some people say that if you get a laptop with a finger identification
setup on it you are safer, I say, the opposite, I want to keep all my
fingers.
All that does is prevent someone seeing your password
--
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--
Scott Ferguson wrote:
...
I take that you are unable to defend your assertion that signing has a
point without having to validate the sender. ie. it demonstrates that
the email from an unverified sender is verified.
Almost. I was caught up thinking how a personal signature -- choosing
in a give
On 08/04/12 22:36, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 01:55:06PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 08/04/12 12:26, Chris Bannister wrote:
>>> I suppose you mean encrypting, you can still read signed mail. The point
>>> to note is that *if suddenly* two people start encrypting their m
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 11:59:38PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Though it's worth pointing out that the terms "interleaved, inline,
> conversation, etc." are relatively new - reflecting, perhaps, a
> longer-standing practice. I can remember religious arguments about
> top vs. bottom posting back
Chris Bannister wrote:
[Please trim your posts on this mailing list]
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 10:14:34AM -0400, PMA wrote:
I'm not sure "utterly" is quite the word.
Nobody in signing thinks a signature is
needed to identify him.
You're not confusing the cryptographic signature with the norma
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 01:55:06PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> On 08/04/12 12:26, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > I suppose you mean encrypting, you can still read signed mail. The point
> > to note is that *if suddenly* two people start encrypting their mail,
> > that alone will set off alarm bells
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On 08.04.2012 14:01, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:03:54AM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
>
> Oh look: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.3)
> Gecko/20120329 Icedove/10.0.3
>
>> My whole key is not in signature.
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On 08.04.2012 13:51, Chris Bannister wrote:
<...>
>>
>> As I have explained at least two times, K9 Mail which I use on
>> Android doesn't support S/MIME. It cannot sign nor encrypt nor
>> verify S/MIME signatures.
>
> Oh look! User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:03:54AM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
Oh look:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120329
Icedove/10.0.3
> My whole key is not in signature. The key is this what is attached to
> this message.
It diplays like so:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 10:36:02AM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
> On 07.04.2012 22:10, Joey Hess wrote:
> > Mika Suomalainen wrote:
> >> As far as I know, I have valid signature. That block which was
> >> pasted here is shown as invalid, because the one who first
> >> started complaining about it
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:05:30AM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
> On 08.04.2012 05:05, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 11:23:35AM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
> >>
> >> I cannot use S/MIME, because it's not supported by APG nor K9
> >> Mail.
> >
> > Nice try. :)
> >
> > Us
On 08.04.2012 12:24, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 3:30 AM, Mika Suomalainen
> wrote:
>>
>> I only press the "sign" button and message is signed correctly and I
>> can verify it.
>
> Then perhaps you could be so kind as to stop pressing the "sign"
> button, then. :-)
>
That
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 3:30 AM, Mika Suomalainen
wrote:
>
> I only press the "sign" button and message is signed correctly and I
> can verify it.
Then perhaps you could be so kind as to stop pressing the "sign"
button, then. :-)
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On 07/04/12 21:49, Indulekha wrote:
Of course, that's merely my opinion.:)
Not just your opinion, but the opinion of, probably, the silent majority.
I also dislike that big block of 'signature'; it's annoying.
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On 08.04.2012 11:12, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> On 08/04/12 17:48, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
>> On 08.04.2012 00:25, Paul Johnson wrote:
>>> On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 1:23 AM, Mika Suomalainen
>>> wrote:
>>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> I cannot say that APG and K9 a
On 08/04/12 17:48, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
> On 08.04.2012 00:25, Paul Johnson wrote:
>> On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 1:23 AM, Mika Suomalainen
>> wrote:
>
>
>
> I cannot say that APG and K9 are living in the past, because they are
> the only PGP implementation and email client, which supports PGP
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On 08.04.2012 05:05, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 11:23:35AM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
>>
>> I cannot use S/MIME, because it's not supported by APG nor K9
>> Mail.
>
> Nice try. :)
>
> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86
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> Now thats uncalled for. My point was, that Mika's posts are
> difficult to read as it is (because he doesn't trim them) without
> all that extra "stuff" at the end.
>
> I haven't read all the thread yet, so bearing that in mind, I think
> it is fine
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On 08.04.2012 00:25, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 1:23 AM, Mika Suomalainen
> wrote:
>
>> GPG Inline signature is easier to verify if you copy-paste that
>> email from mailing list archive.
>
> Not really, since you can just download
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
On 07.04.2012 22:10, Joey Hess wrote:
> Mika Suomalainen wrote:
>> As far as I know, I have valid signature. That block which was
>> pasted here is shown as invalid, because the one who first
>> started complaining about it didn't use Enigmail and/or p
Chris Bannister wrote:
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 02:58:24PM +, Camaleón wrote:
On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 06:11:19 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 04:03:05PM +, Camaleón wrote:
Bottom posting has been since long the preferred method for newsgroups
and then mailing lists b
On 08/04/12 12:26, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 03:49:09PM -0500, Indulekha wrote:
>
>> If you and I work together on a secret project for a defense contractor,
>> or in banking or something it makes senseto sign business-related emails
>> to one another.
Yes. Conditional
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 02:58:24PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 06:11:19 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 04:03:05PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> >> Bottom posting has been since long the preferred method for newsgroups
> >> and then mailing lists but not for
On 08/04/12 10:30, PMA wrote:
>
>
> Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> Please don't top-post. How hard is it to move the cursor?
>>
>> On 08/04/12 00:14, PMA wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Nobody in signing thinks a signature is needed to identify him.
>>
>> Nobody?
>>
>> Are you serious?
I take that you are u
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 03:49:09PM -0500, Indulekha wrote:
> So, since I sometimes need big, thigh high rubber boots to keep my feet and
> legs dry and clean, I should just wear my big rubber boots everywhere all
> time then, right?
Then if anyone *cough* *cough* on your leg and tells you its r
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 11:23:35AM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
>
> I cannot use S/MIME, because it's not supported by APG nor K9 Mail.
Nice try. :)
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120329
Icedove/10.0.3
But IT IS supported by Icedove/10.0.3, which you can and ob
[Please trim your posts on this mailing list]
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 10:14:34AM -0400, PMA wrote:
> I'm not sure "utterly" is quite the word.
> Nobody in signing thinks a signature is
> needed to identify him.
You're not confusing the cryptographic signature with the normal email
signature, are
[Please don't top post on this list.]
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 05:13:52PM -0400, PMA wrote:
> Does signing "in-line" specifically mean typing my name into a given email,
> or does it include also whatever signature text I've told my email program
> to append automatically?
No. I don't know the RF
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 07:48:56PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> Apart from Mika... in which case he's best to not sign his posts and
> claim his account was hijacked by an idiot.
Now thats uncalled for. My point was, that Mika's posts are difficult to
read as it is (because he doesn't trim them)
On 08/04/12 05:44, Joey Hess wrote:
> Wayne Topa wrote:
>> Who would want to spoof YOUR Mail.
>>
>> I have been on this list for 19 years now and do not recall anyone
>> being spoofed. From the tenor of your mails, I doubt anyone would
>> gain anything from it.
>
> This is fallacious, dangerous,
Scott Ferguson wrote:
Please don't top-post. How hard is it to move the cursor?
On 08/04/12 00:14, PMA wrote:
Nobody in signing thinks a signature is
needed to identify him.
Nobody?
Are you serious?
Kind regards
Not hard whatsoever. I'm afraid that, hearing so much
talk here to th
On 08/04/12 00:46, Lisi wrote:
> On Saturday 07 April 2012 15:21:44 Indulekha wrote:
>> In linux.debian.user, Richard wrote:
>>> The other thing Mika, apart from that huge chunk of signature, why on
>>> earth ask for a return receipt.
>
>> It does tend to announce to the recipient that the sender
Please don't top-post. How hard is it to move the cursor?
On 08/04/12 00:14, PMA wrote:
> Nobody in signing thinks a signature is
> needed to identify him.
Nobody?
Are you serious?
Kind regards
--
Iceweasel/Firefox/Chrome/Chromium/Iceape/IE extensions for finding
answers to questions abo
In linux.debian.user, Joey Hess wrote:
>
> --A6N2fC+uXW/VQSAv
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Disposition: inline
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> Indulekha wrote:
>> So, since I sometimes need big, thigh high rubber boots to keep my feet a=
> nd=20
>> legs
In linux.debian.user, it is written:
>
> On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 09:21:44AM -0500, Indulekha wrote:
>> In linux.debian.user, Richard wrote:
>> > On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 14:02:12 +0300
>> > Mika Suomalainen wrote:
>> >
>> > The other thing Mika, apart from that huge chunk of signature, why on
>> > eart
Indulekha wrote:
> So, since I sometimes need big, thigh high rubber boots to keep my feet and
> legs dry and clean, I should just wear my big rubber boots everywhere all
> time then, right? That way whether I'm at the grocery store, the office, or
> the barn there'll be no worries. :D
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