Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

2024-05-04 Thread Marc SCHAEFER
On Fri, May 03, 2024 at 01:50:52PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > Thank you for devising a benchmark and posting some data. :-) I did not do the comparison hosted on github. I just wrote the script which tests the dm-integrity on dm-raid error detection and error correction. > FreeBSD also

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

2024-05-03 Thread David Christensen
On 5/3/24 04:26, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: On Mon, Apr 08, 2024 at 10:04:01PM +0200, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: For off-site long-term offline archiving, no, I am not using RAID. Now, as I had to think a bit about ONLINE integrity, I found this comparison: https://github.com/t13a/dm-integrity

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

2024-05-03 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 3 May 2024 13:26 +0200, from schae...@alphanet.ch (Marc SCHAEFER): > https://github.com/t13a/dm-integrity-benchmarks > > Contenders are btrfs, zfs, and notably ext4+dm-integrity+dm-raid ZFS' selling point is not performance, _especially_ on rotational drives. In fact, it's fairly widely

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

2024-05-03 Thread Marc SCHAEFER
On Mon, Apr 08, 2024 at 10:04:01PM +0200, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: > For off-site long-term offline archiving, no, I am not using RAID. Now, as I had to think a bit about ONLINE integrity, I found this comparison: https://github.com/t13a/dm-integrity-benchmarks Contenders are btrfs,

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

2024-04-12 Thread David Christensen
On 4/12/24 08:14, piorunz wrote: On 10/04/2024 12:10, David Christensen wrote: Those sound like some compelling features. I believe the last time I tried Btrfs was Debian 9 (?).  I ran into problems because I did not do the required manual maintenance (rebalancing).  Does the Btrfs in Debian

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

2024-04-12 Thread piorunz
On 10/04/2024 12:10, David Christensen wrote: Those sound like some compelling features. I believe the last time I tried Btrfs was Debian 9 (?).  I ran into problems because I did not do the required manual maintenance (rebalancing).  Does the Btrfs in Debian 11 or Debian 12 still require

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

2024-04-10 Thread David Christensen
On 4/10/24 08:49, Paul Leiber wrote: Am 10.04.2024 um 13:10 schrieb David Christensen: Does the Btrfs in Debian 11 or Debian 12 still require manual maintenance?  If so, what and how often? Scrub and balance are actions which have been recommended. I am using btrfsmaintenance scripts [1][2]

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

2024-04-10 Thread Paul Leiber
Am 10.04.2024 um 13:10 schrieb David Christensen: On 4/9/24 17:08, piorunz wrote: On 02/04/2024 13:53, David Christensen wrote: Does anyone have any comments or suggestions regarding how to use magnetic hard disk drives, commodity x86 computers, and Debian for long-term data storage

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

2024-04-10 Thread Curt
On 2024-04-10, David Christensen wrote: >> >> I use Btrfs, on all my systems, including some servers, with soft Raid1 >> and Raid10 modes (because these modes are considered stable and >> production ready). I decided on Btrfs not ZFS, because Btrfs allows to >> migrate drives on the fly while

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

2024-04-10 Thread David Christensen
On 4/9/24 17:08, piorunz wrote: On 02/04/2024 13:53, David Christensen wrote: Does anyone have any comments or suggestions regarding how to use magnetic hard disk drives, commodity x86 computers, and Debian for long-term data storage with ensured integrity? I use Btrfs, on all my systems

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

2024-04-09 Thread piorunz
On 02/04/2024 13:53, David Christensen wrote: Does anyone have any comments or suggestions regarding how to use magnetic hard disk drives, commodity x86 computers, and Debian for long-term data storage with ensured integrity? I use Btrfs, on all my systems, including some servers, with soft

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

2024-04-08 Thread David Christensen
? For off-site long-term offline archiving, no, I am not using RAID. No, it's not LVM+md, just plain LVM for flexibility. Typically I use 16 TB hard drives, and I tend to use one LV per data source, the LV name being the data source and the date of the copy. Or sometimes I just copy a raw volume

Re: Why LVM (was: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity)

2024-04-08 Thread DdB
Am 08.04.2024 um 23:08 schrieb Stefan Monnier: > David Christensen [2024-04-08 11:28:04] wrote: >> Why LVM? > > Personally, I've been using LVM everywhere I can (i.e. everywhere > except on my OpenWRT router, tho I've also used LVM there back when my > router had an HDD. I also use LVM on my 2GB

Why LVM (was: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity)

2024-04-08 Thread Stefan Monnier
David Christensen [2024-04-08 11:28:04] wrote: > Why LVM? Personally, I've been using LVM everywhere I can (i.e. everywhere except on my OpenWRT router, tho I've also used LVM there back when my router had an HDD. I also use LVM on my 2GB USB rescue image). To me the question is rather the

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

2024-04-08 Thread Marc SCHAEFER
Hello, On Mon, Apr 08, 2024 at 11:28:04AM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > So, an ext4 file system on an LVM logical volume? > > Why LVM? Are you implementing redundancy (RAID)? Is your data larger than > a single disk (concatenation/ JBOD)? Something else? For off-site long-

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

2024-04-08 Thread David Christensen
On 4/8/24 02:38, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: For offline storage: On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 05:53:15AM -0700, David Christensen wrote: Does anyone have any comments or suggestions regarding how to use magnetic hard disk drives, commodity x86 computers, and Debian for long-term data storage with ensured

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

2024-04-08 Thread Marc SCHAEFER
For offline storage: On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 05:53:15AM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > Does anyone have any comments or suggestions regarding how to use magnetic > hard disk drives, commodity x86 computers, and Debian for long-term data > storage with ensured integrity? I use LV

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

2024-04-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue Apr 2, 2024 at 10:57 PM BST, David Christensen wrote: > AIUI neither LVM nor ext4 have data and metadata checksum and correction > features. But, it should be possible to achieve such by including > dm-integrity (for checksumming) and some form of RAID (for correction) > in the storage

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

2024-04-03 Thread David Christensen
On 4/2/24 14:57, David Christensen wrote: AIUI neither LVM nor ext4 have data and metadata checksum and correction features.  But, it should be possible to achieve such by including dm-integrity (for checksumming) and some form of RAID (for correction) in the storage stack.  I need to explore

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

2024-04-02 Thread David Christensen
On 4/2/24 06:55, Stefan Monnier wrote: The most obvious alternative to ZFS on Debian would be Btrfs. Does anyone have any comments or suggestions regarding Btrfs and data corruption bugs, concurrency, CMM level, PSP, etc.? If you're worried about such things, I'd think "the most obvious

Re: HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

2024-04-02 Thread Stefan Monnier
> The most obvious alternative to ZFS on Debian would be Btrfs. Does anyone > have any comments or suggestions regarding Btrfs and data corruption bugs, > concurrency, CMM level, PSP, etc.? If you're worried about such things, I'd think "the most obvious alternative" is LVM+ext4. Both Btrfs and

HDD long-term data storage with ensured integrity

2024-04-02 Thread David Christensen
o ZFS on Debian would be Btrfs. Does anyone have any comments or suggestions regarding Btrfs and data corruption bugs, concurrency, CMM level, PSP, etc.? Does anyone have any comments or suggestions regarding how to use magnetic hard disk drives, commodity x86 computers, and Debian for long-te

Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-27 Thread David Wright
On Sun 27 Dec 2020 at 22:10:53 (+), Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 08:33:26AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Sun, 27 Dec 2020 11:01:22 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > > > > > > > > Bug??: DI incorrectly detected this machine as having EFI. > > > > > > > At the

Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-27 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 08:33:26AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 27 Dec 2020 11:01:22 + > "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > > > > > > > Bug??: DI incorrectly detected this machine as having EFI. > > > > > > > At the beginning? Did you get presented with the UEFI install and did > >

Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-27 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 27 Dec 2020 11:01:22 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > > Bug!!: I tried loading the firmware for the wifi if. DI asked all > > the right questions, and I gave it all the right answers. But it > > never connected. The dhcp server never got a request, and on the > > target hardware,

Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-27 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 27 Dec 2020 11:01:22 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > > > > Bug??: DI incorrectly detected this machine as having EFI. > > > > At the beginning? Did you get presented with the UEFI install and did > it try to install grub-efi at the end (or did it just ask whether you > wanted to

Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-27 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 03:18:40PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 15:45:37 + > "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > > > > > > Well, that's a good start :) The test suite we used to test for > > stable release CDs is here: > >

Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-26 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 15:45:37 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > > > Well, that's a good start :) The test suite we used to test for > stable release CDs is here: > https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianCD/ReleaseTesting/Buster_r7?highlight=%28testing%29%7C%28cd%29%7C%2810.7%29 First test

Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 01:25:05AM +0100, Linux-Fan wrote: > Andrew M.A. Cater writes: > > > On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 07:06:45AM -0800, Rick Thomas wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, at 3:48 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > [...] > > > > > If you have "real" 686 32 bit hardware that you

Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-21 Thread Linux-Fan
Andrew M.A. Cater writes: On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 07:06:45AM -0800, Rick Thomas wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, at 3:48 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: [...] > > If you have "real" 686 32 bit hardware that you can press into service > > that > > isn't being used: pick up a Debian i386 disk

Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-21 Thread Felix Miata
Linux-Fan composed on 2020-12-21 15:44 (UTC+0100): > I have got seven i386 (non-amd64-capable) machines in total, all of which > are known to work with "Debian 10 stable" although not freshly installed but > upgraded from earlier releases. At least two of them can be easily used > for

Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-21 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 07:06:45AM -0800, Rick Thomas wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, at 3:48 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 06:42:41AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 13:42:37 +0200 > > > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > > > That is, if you and

Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-21 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, at 3:48 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 06:42:41AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 13:42:37 +0200 > > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > That is, if you and other list subscribers care about continued i386 > > > support you should

Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-21 Thread Linux-Fan
Andrew M.A. Cater writes: On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 06:42:41AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 13:42:37 +0200 > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > That is, if you and other list subscribers care about continued i386 > > support you should probably look into contributing. > > And how

Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-21 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 06:42:41AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 13:42:37 +0200 > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > That is, if you and other list subscribers care about continued i386 > > support you should probably look into contributing. > > And how does one do that? > > --

Re: FW: Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-16 Thread deloptes
David wrote: > On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 00:41, deloptes wrote: [snip] > > Some discussion around those questions occurred in the thread from > which Andrei forwarded one message. The thread begins here: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2020/12/msg00139.html > > so that's probably a

Re: FW: Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-15 Thread David
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 00:41, deloptes wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > Sorry, should have been more explicit: I'm just the messenger here, > > assuming that most debian-user subscribers are probably not following > > debian-devel. > > In my opinion the most important message is this: > >> >

Re: FW: Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-15 Thread tomas
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 02:40:47PM +0100, deloptes wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: [...] > > That is, if you and other list subscribers care about continued i386 > > support you should probably look into contributing. > > What does it mean exactly? Contribute how and where? I'd ask in

Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-15 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 13:42:37 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > That is, if you and other list subscribers care about continued i386 > support you should probably look into contributing. And how does one do that? -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com

Re: FW: Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-15 Thread deloptes
Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Sorry, should have been more explicit: I'm just the messenger here, > assuming that most debian-user subscribers are probably not following > debian-devel. > this is true - thank you I became aware of the i386 issue on the geode dev news list (AFAIR) some time ago (may

Re: FW: Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 15 dec 20, 11:47:49, deloptes wrote: > > Hi Andrei, > thank you for posting on this very important topic. > > I want to share my experience and view hoping that you draw some useful > conclusions and we can keep i386 in some way available. Sorry, should have been more explicit: I'm just

Re: FW: Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-15 Thread deloptes
install mount install multiarch-support install ncurses-baseinstall ncurses-bin install ncurses-term

FW: Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years? Organization: The Eyrie User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Calum McConnell writes: > A very fair point, and quite equitably put. If I was remotely > comfortable tweaking kernels, or used a 32 bit machine regula

Re: Debian 8 Long Term Support reaching end-of-life

2020-07-09 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
: > > The Debian Project https://www.debian.org/ > Debian 8 Long Term Support reaching end-of-life pr...@debian.org > July 9th, 2020 https://www.debian.org/News/2

Debian 8 Long Term Support reaching end-of-life

2020-07-09 Thread Laura Arjona Reina
The Debian Project https://www.debian.org/ Debian 8 Long Term Support reaching end-of-life pr...@debian.org July 9th, 2020 https://www.debian.org/News/2020/20200709

Re: Long-term support for Squeeze

2014-04-26 Thread Andrei POPESCU
don't know if it's ad-free. Partial quotes:- As announced in the Bits from the Security Team email a couple of weeks ago, it is possible that Debian squeeze will have Long Term Support, primarily in the way of security updates. snipped This is official now: https://lists.debian.org/debian

Fwd: [SECURITY] [DSA 2907-1] Announcement of long term support for Debian oldstable

2014-04-17 Thread Alfonso
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saludos: Se confirma que tendremos Debian Squeeze hasta Febrero de 2016 y pasa a ser una version LTS. - Mensaje original Asunto: [SECURITY] [DSA 2907-1] Announcement of long term support for Debian oldstable Resent-Date: Wed, 16

Re: Fwd: [SECURITY] [DSA 2907-1] Announcement of long term support for Debian oldstable

2014-04-17 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 17 Apr 2014 07:44:21 +0200, Alfonso escribió: Saludos: Se confirma que tendremos Debian Squeeze hasta Febrero de 2016 y pasa a ser una version LTS. (...) Un +5 para Debian; este tipo de iniciativas me encantan :-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Fwd: [SECURITY] [DSA 2907-1] Announcement of long term support for Debian oldstable

2014-04-17 Thread Guido Ignacio
Harán lo mismo con wheezy? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+wixxi0qb20rxngwdygeoytbggebmwcjjeeemb+vlb6wgf...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Fwd: [SECURITY] [DSA 2907-1] Announcement of long term support for Debian oldstable

2014-04-17 Thread Eduardo Rios
El 17/04/14 23:08, Guido Ignacio escribió: Harán lo mismo con wheezy? Extraído de la misma info publicada por Alfonso: Q: Does this mean that Debian 7 (wheezy) and/or Debian 8 (jessie) will have five years security support as well? A: Likely, we'll see how squeeze-lts turns out. If

Re: Fwd: [SECURITY] [DSA 2907-1] Announcement of long term support for Debian oldstable

2014-04-17 Thread jors
On 17/04/14 23:08, Guido Ignacio wrote: Harán lo mismo con wheezy? Q: Does this mean that Debian 7 (wheezy) and/or Debian 8 (jessie) will have five years security support as well? A: Likely, we'll see how squeeze-lts turns out. If there's sufficient support it will be continued for later

[j...@debian.org: [SECURITY] [DSA 2907-1] Announcement of long term support for Debian oldstable]

2014-04-16 Thread Brian
To: debian-security-annou...@lists.debian.org Subject: [SECURITY] [DSA 2907-1] Announcement of long term support for Debian oldstable Reply-To: debian-secur...@lists.debian.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

Re: Long-term support for Squeeze

2014-04-06 Thread Miroslav Skoric
On 03/19/2014 01:42 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: After all, the clock keeps ticking and Debian squeeze is going to reach its End of Life in less than two months otherwise. Whatever happens, I'd keep 'Squeeze LTS' for at least a couple of years more, if for nothing else but for keeping the

Long-term support for Squeeze

2014-03-18 Thread Scott Ferguson
:- As announced in the Bits from the Security Team email a couple of weeks ago, it is possible that Debian squeeze will have Long Term Support, primarily in the way of security updates. snipped Perhaps it wasn't stressed enough in the email, but those who are interested in benefiting from (and therefore

Re: Exim4 behaviour when long term failure of outgoing address

2012-10-12 Thread Alan Chandler
On 10/10/12 17:00, Alan Chandler wrote: On 10/10/12 09:49, Chris Davies wrote: 4. Failure (bounce) message to root@avalon is being lost - and this is the issue at stake Absolutely correct. I think I have discovered - at least part of the problem - maybe the whole thing. The inaddr.arpa

Re: Exim4 behaviour when long term failure of outgoing address

2012-10-10 Thread Alan Chandler
On 07/10/12 22:31, Chris Davies wrote: Alan Chandlera...@chandlerfamily.org.uk wrote: I am using Debian Squeeze on a virtual machine that I lease. It has exim4 (light) version as its mail server. - its name is avalon.hartley-consultants.com However, it looks to me like its trying to send a

Re: Exim4 behaviour when long term failure of outgoing address

2012-10-10 Thread Chris Davies
='' (77.96.120.60 is my home ip address where my main mail server sits - because this is effectively a dynamic ip address I have to route all outgoing mail through a remote smtp server. You have a mid-term problem here you're going to need to address: that if your 77 address is dynamic, each time

Re: Exim4 behaviour when long term failure of outgoing address

2012-10-10 Thread lee
Alan Chandler a...@chandlerfamily.org.uk writes: I'll try and be more specific The domain in question is virginiaparkinson.com and I am having , [ dig -t mx virginiaparkinson.com ] | | ; DiG 9.8.1-P1 -t mx virginiaparkinson.com | ;; global options: +cmd | ;; Got answer: | ;; -HEADER-

Re: Exim4 behaviour when long term failure of outgoing address

2012-10-10 Thread Alan Chandler
On 10/10/12 09:49, Chris Davies wrote: 4. Failure (bounce) message to root@avalon is being lost - and this is the issue at stake Absolutely correct. I think I have discovered - at least part of the problem - maybe the whole thing. The inaddr.arpa address for the IP address of my virtual

Re: Exim4 behaviour when long term failure of outgoing address

2012-10-07 Thread Chris Davies
Alan Chandler a...@chandlerfamily.org.uk wrote: I am using Debian Squeeze on a virtual machine that I lease. It has exim4 (light) version as its mail server. - its name is avalon.hartley-consultants.com However, it looks to me like its trying to send a failure e-mail to me locally

Exim4 behaviour when long term failure of outgoing address

2012-10-05 Thread Alan Chandler
I am using Debian Squeeze on a virtual machine that I lease. It has exim4 (light) version as its mail server. - its name is avalon.hartley-consultants.com I have been trying to send mail to a mail address where the server is refusing connections (incorrectly - but that is another story).

Re: Exim4 behaviour when long term failure of outgoing address

2012-10-05 Thread lee
Alan Chandler a...@chandlerfamily.org.uk writes: Anyone any idea what is happening - and how I can change the configuration of exim to tell me when mail, like the above, is being refused. It's rather difficult to figure out what's going on without knowing how your exim is configured. Set up

¿Hay mirrors de kernel long term?

2011-09-25 Thread Altair Linux
Buenas, hace relativamente poco estuve preguntando por un kernel exacto para instalar grsecurity. Ya se que me contestaron y todo eso, el problema esta en que kernel.org lleva offline varios dias. He encontrado varios sitios que tienen mirrors del kernel, pero no tienen el directorio longterm.

Re: ¿Hay mirrors de kernel long term?

2011-09-25 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 25 Sep 2011 20:05:50 +0100, Altair Linux escribió: hace relativamente poco estuve preguntando por un kernel exacto para instalar grsecurity. Ya se que me contestaron y todo eso, el problema esta en que kernel.org lleva offline varios dias. He encontrado varios sitios que tienen

Term Variable in automatic updates

2011-01-05 Thread Josep M. Gasso
Hello. I have one script for do automatic updates with aptitude, the TERM variable in my system is xterm $ echo ${TERM} xterm But, what value should be set for the TERM variable when doing automatic updates? As now seems that fails for this. Setting up console-setup (1.66) ... debconf

Re: Term Variable in automatic updates

2011-01-05 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 11:31:16AM +0100, Josep M. Gasso wrote: Hello. I have one script for do automatic updates with aptitude, the TERM variable in my system is xterm $ echo ${TERM} xterm But, what value should be set for the TERM variable when doing automatic updates

Re: Term Variable in automatic updates SOLVED

2011-01-05 Thread Josep M. Gasso
, Jan 05, 2011 at 11:31:16AM +0100, Josep M. Gasso wrote: Hello. I have one script for do automatic updates with aptitude, the TERM variable in my system is xterm $ echo ${TERM} xterm But, what value should be set for the TERM variable when doing automatic updates

Re: Term Variable in automatic updates SOLVED

2011-01-05 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 12:13:40PM +0100, Josep M. Gasso wrote: Just now I found what was giving error, the package console-setup was not installed, installing this all is ok, of course I will add the environment variable DEBCONF_FRONTEND=noninteractive to my script. Please don't top-post.

Re: question about term

2009-04-21 Thread Andrei Popescu
: mlterm. Because the server does not know your terminal (terminfo and/or termcap). Then if I do 'TERM=xterm' and it would work. Because terminal emulators are *mostly* compatible to xterm. I was puzzled how the system detects which terminal I use and how it changes the TERM env variable. I would

Re: question about term

2009-04-21 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
terminal: mlterm. Then if I do 'TERM=xterm' and it would work. You're missing the definition of a terminal called mlterm. You can get it from /usr/share/terminfo/m/mlterm in your original system. Copy it to m/mlterm somewhere where terminfo will look for it On my system: $ strace -estat env

Re: question about term

2009-04-21 Thread Zhengquan Zhang
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 07:08:48AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: And thus you can use: $HOME/.terminfo/m/mletrm /etc/terminfo/m/mletrm /lib/terminfo/m/mletrm Thanks, Tzafrir! -- Zhengquan Yow! Are you the self-frying president? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: question about term

2009-04-21 Thread Zhengquan Zhang
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 09:01:44AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: Because the server does not know your terminal (terminfo and/or termcap). Then if I do 'TERM=xterm' and it would work. Because terminal emulators are *mostly* compatible to xterm. Great, Now I understand! Thanks Andrei

Re: question about term

2009-04-21 Thread Zhengquan Zhang
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 07:33:44AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: Alternatively, you can set it in your shell's initialization files, e.g. in ~/.profile?: if [ $TERM = mlterm ]; then TERM=xterm; fi You can do this on your local system or on each server you connect to. Thanks, Sven

[Solved, Thanks!] Re: question about term

2009-04-21 Thread Zhengquan Zhang
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[OT] Re: question about term

2009-04-21 Thread s. keeling
Zhengquan Zhang zhang.zhengq...@gmail.com: ... [snipped] -- I have a theory that it's impossible to prove anything, but I can't prove it. Good one, but lacks originality? Cf. Goedel Escher Bach? -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)

question about term

2009-04-20 Thread Zhengquan Zhang
Dear debian community, This problem has been puzzling me for quite a while. I use mlterm(a unicode terminal) to connect to servers. but when I launch mutt or top or something alike in it. It will fail and say Error opening terminal: mlterm. Then if I do 'TERM=xterm' and it would work. I

Re: question about term

2009-04-20 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-04-21 04:24 +0200, Zhengquan Zhang wrote: I use mlterm(a unicode terminal) to connect to servers. but when I launch mutt or top or something alike in it. It will fail and say Error opening terminal: mlterm. Then if I do 'TERM=xterm' and it would work. I was puzzled how the system

Re: Term not set

2009-02-07 Thread Frank McCormick
Angus Auld wrote: --- On Fri, 2/6/09, Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote: From: Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca Subject: Re: Term not set To: l.glidewell.li...@gmail.com Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 2:11 PM L Glidewell wrote

Re: Term not set

2009-02-06 Thread Frank McCormick
L Glidewell wrote: On Thursday 05 February 2009 20:06:54 Frank McCormick wrote: Frank McCormick wrote: Lately when the terminal is running in update-manager installing packages, it says Term not set so Dialog won't work. It falls back to readline. How can I fix this? Nobody ?? Well

Re: Term not set

2009-02-06 Thread Angus Auld
--- On Fri, 2/6/09, Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote: From: Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca Subject: Re: Term not set To: l.glidewell.li...@gmail.com Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 2:11 PM L Glidewell wrote: On Thursday 05 February

Term not set

2009-02-05 Thread Frank McCormick
Lately when the terminal is running in update-manager installing packages, it says Term not set so Dialog won't work. It falls back to readline. How can I fix this? Thanks signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Term not set

2009-02-05 Thread Frank McCormick
Frank McCormick wrote: Lately when the terminal is running in update-manager installing packages, it says Term not set so Dialog won't work. It falls back to readline. How can I fix this? Nobody ?? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Term not set

2009-02-05 Thread L Glidewell
On Thursday 05 February 2009 20:06:54 Frank McCormick wrote: Frank McCormick wrote: Lately when the terminal is running in update-manager installing packages, it says Term not set so Dialog won't work. It falls back to readline. How can I fix this? Nobody ?? Well, the question isn't

SHOWBAND available for Xmas, New Year Event and short/long term contract

2008-11-27 Thread Girolamo Tomaselli
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Re: ALSA dumping to term

2008-05-12 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 22:24:12 +, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: FK On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 04:55:21 +, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote: hi guys. i just upgraded to kernel 2.6.25 am now seeing a ton of garbage from ALSA dumping to my terminal

Re: ALSA dumping to term

2008-05-12 Thread i'll teach you to turn away.
Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FK On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 22:24:12 +, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote: FK I don't know how to turn this off without a recompile. (I don't know too FK much about DEBUG_DETECT.) FK Maybe it is possible to recompile only the stuff in sound and keep the

Re: ALSA dumping to term

2008-05-11 Thread Florian Kulzer
sound/isa/cs423x/cs4231_lib.c:190: codec out - reg 0xe = 0xc ALSA sound/isa/cs423x/cs4231_lib.c:190: codec out - reg 0x9 = 0x9 ALSA sound/isa/cs423x/cs4231_lib.c:190: codec out - reg 0x9 = 0x8 seems to be normal output, not errors, but then there's no reason it should be dumping to term

Re: ALSA dumping to term

2008-05-11 Thread i'll teach you to turn away.
Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FK On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 04:55:21 +, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote: hi guys. i just upgraded to kernel 2.6.25 am now seeing a ton of garbage from ALSA dumping to my terminal syslog. whenever i play an mp3 ALSA

ALSA dumping to term

2008-05-10 Thread i'll teach you to turn away.
/cs4231_lib.c:190: codec out - reg 0x9 = 0x9 ALSA sound/isa/cs423x/cs4231_lib.c:190: codec out - reg 0x9 = 0x8 seems to be normal output, not errors, but then there's no reason it should be dumping to term OR to syslog. anyone else experiencing this /or know how to shush it? thanks. lish

Synaptic - debconf: TERM not set

2007-09-10 Thread Chris Capon
After a recent upgrade (testing distribution), Synaptic started showing this message: debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Dialog debconf: (TERM is not set, so the dialog frontend is not usable.) debconf: falling back to frontend: Readline for every package or upgrade being installed

Re: Synaptic - debconf: TERM not set

2007-09-10 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 11:39:58AM -0400, Chris Capon wrote: After a recent upgrade (testing distribution), Synaptic started showing this message: debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Dialog debconf: (TERM is not set, so the dialog frontend is not usable.) debconf: falling back

FW: Re: Synaptic - debconf: TERM not set

2007-09-10 Thread Andrei Popescu
- debconf: TERM not set The debconf lines are similar to mine so it may be the same issue. I guess I'll wait and see what the outcome of that bug is. Thanks for your input. Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 11:39:58AM -0400, Chris Capon wrote: After a recent upgrade (testing

Re: Google's search term completion [WAS] Re: Google checking my system?

2007-08-17 Thread Atis
On 17/08/07, Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have noticed for a while that as I type into the IW / FF Google search box, a drop down list of suggestions (separate from a list of my previous searches) appears. I don't get the impression that the browser is downloading it on the fly, so

Re: Google's search term completion [WAS] Re: Google checking my system?

2007-08-17 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:51:43 +0300 Atis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/08/07, Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have noticed for a while that as I type into the IW / FF Google search box, a drop down list of suggestions (separate from a list of my previous searches) appears. I don't get

Google's search term completion [WAS] Re: Google checking my system?

2007-08-17 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:11:08 +0300 Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/08/07, Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have noticed for a while that as I type into the IW / FF Google search box, a drop down list of suggestions (separate from a list of my previous searches) appears. I

Re: TERM for small bw monitor?

2007-04-13 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 05:01:10PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: I tried TERM= for weise, zenith, and hazeltine. Yes they are all white on black but with no bright. They seem to be the same as dumb. man will work without highlighting but mutt won't work at all (lack of curses

Re: TERM for small bw monitor?

2007-04-13 Thread Thomas Dickey
Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 11:45:36PM +1000, Paul Dwerryhouse wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 08:47:35AM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: Short of working out a setterm recipe, does anyone know of a TERM setting I can uses that only does white

Re: TERM for small bw monitor?

2007-04-13 Thread Thomas Dickey
Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is someone who reads this list by the name of Thomas Dickey who seems to maintain the Xterm package, I suspect that he could provide an answer. Actually I maintain the xterm program (and others), but no packages. -- Thomas E. Dickey

Re: TERM for small bw monitor?

2007-04-12 Thread charles norwood
of a TERM setting I can uses that only does white, bright-white, and black? If I use TERM=dumb, I only get white and black and no curses. Does TERM=vt100 help any? No. vt100 does colour so its not (any?) different than TERM=linux. Does anyone remember the name/number

Re: TERM for small bw monitor?

2007-04-12 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
: Short of working out a setterm recipe, does anyone know of a TERM setting I can uses that only does white, bright-white, and black? If I use TERM=dumb, I only get white and black and no curses. Does anyone remember the name/number of an actual terminal that only did regular/bright

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