Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

2017-11-20 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 09:37:10AM +, Lars Brinkhoff wrote: > My StrongARM-based Netwinder machine has been lying dormant for a while, > but I was planning to bring it back up. It's ARMv4 without Thumb. Does a netwinder have enough ram these days to run the installer (or much of anything

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

2017-11-20 Thread Lars Brinkhoff
Adrian Bunk wrote: > If anyone is running stretch, buster or sid on ARMv4t hardware, then > please let us know what device and kernel you are using and whether > you intend to use buster. My StrongARM-based Netwinder machine has been lying dormant for a while, but I was planning to bring it back

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

2017-11-20 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 09:37:10AM +, Lars Brinkhoff wrote: > Adrian Bunk wrote: > > If anyone is running stretch, buster or sid on ARMv4t hardware, then > > please let us know what device and kernel you are using and whether > > you intend to use buster. > > My StrongARM-based Netwinder

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

2017-11-10 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 10:56:03PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 12:52:05AM +0200, Aaro Koskinen wrote: > >> > >>... OMAP15xx is frequently tested and used > >> by OMAP1 hackers (thanks to Amstrad

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

2017-11-08 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 12:52:05AM +0200, Aaro Koskinen wrote: >> >>... OMAP15xx is frequently tested and used >> by OMAP1 hackers (thanks to Amstrad Delta). > > But is anyone still using Debian on OMAP15xx? > > Looking at the

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

2017-11-08 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 12:52:05AM +0200, Aaro Koskinen wrote: > >... OMAP15xx is frequently tested and used > by OMAP1 hackers (thanks to Amstrad Delta). But is anyone still using Debian on OMAP15xx? Looking at the amount of RAM in the Amstrad Delta, I'd be surprised if anyone is actually using

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

2017-11-07 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 11:52 PM, Aaro Koskinen wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Nov 07, 2017 at 10:36:57PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote: >> - TI OMAP15xx was based on ARM925, we support exactly one machine >> with it (HTC Herald phone, a.k.a. T-Mobile Wing), I'd call it dead > >

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

2017-11-07 Thread Aaro Koskinen
Hi, On Tue, Nov 07, 2017 at 10:36:57PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > - TI OMAP15xx was based on ARM925, we support exactly one machine > with it (HTC Herald phone, a.k.a. T-Mobile Wing), I'd call it dead Check again, Herald is OMAP850. OMAP15xx is frequently tested and used by OMAP1 hackers

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

2017-11-07 Thread gregor herrmann
On Tue, 07 Nov 2017 20:44:08 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > for the armel port in buster the question of raising the baseline came up. > > That has been a recurring question over the time, the reason to > > maintain ARMv4t instruction set was OpenMoko mobile phone, which lot > > of people was

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

2017-11-07 Thread Arnd Bergmann
To clarify which platforms are affected by moving from ARMv4T to ARMv5TE, here is what the kernel supports in principle for people that just use the debian packages but build their own kernels: ARMv4 (prior to ARMv4t) machines are: - StrongARM 110 based: RiscPC, EBSA110, Footbridge/NetWinder:

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

2017-11-07 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Nov 07, 2017 at 01:43:50PM +0100, Héctor Orón Martínez wrote: >... > 2017-11-05 22:32 GMT+01:00 Adrian Bunk : > > > for the armel port in buster the question of raising the baseline came up. > > That has been a recurring question over the time, the reason to > maintain

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

2017-11-07 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
W dniu 07.11.2017 o 14:11, Thomas Goirand pisze: > On 11/05/2017 10:32 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote: >> 20 years ago you could go into a shop and buy a mobile phone >> with a CPU supported by the armel port in stretch. > I didn't know Stretch was released 20 years ago. :) Stretch maybe not. But ARMv4t

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

2017-11-07 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/05/2017 10:32 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote: > 20 years ago you could go into a shop and buy a mobile phone > with a CPU supported by the armel port in stretch. I didn't know Stretch was released 20 years ago. :) Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo)

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

2017-11-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Nov 07, 2017 at 01:43:50PM +0100, Hector Oron wrote: > >Also build daemons are aging, those were initially donated by Marvell >(some development boards) which then they replaced with other >development boards. We have been unable to find suitable hardware to >build armel port and current

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

2017-11-07 Thread Héctor Orón Martínez
>>>[+debian-embedded, feel free to adjust CC'd mailing lists on reply] Hello, Thanks for bringing up this discussion! And apologies for adding more complexity to the initial question. Find few comments inlined below, 2017-11-05 22:32 GMT+01:00 Adrian Bunk : > for the armel

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

2017-11-07 Thread Tixy
On Tue, 2017-11-07 at 02:49 -0800, Rick Thomas wrote: > How do I know if a machine is ARMv4t? I have a sheevaplug and a > couple of openrd machines (one “client”, the other “ultimate”) that > are still doing useful work. Are they v4t? They're ARMv5 (so still need armel). I too have similar

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

2017-11-07 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Nov 7, 2017, at 3:27 AM, Christian Seiler wrote: > > Hi, > > Am 2017-11-07 11:49, schrieb Rick Thomas: >> How do I know if a machine is ARMv4t? I have a sheevaplug and a >> couple of openrd machines (one “client”, the other “ultimate”) that >> are still doing useful

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

2017-11-07 Thread Christian Seiler
Hi, Am 2017-11-07 11:49, schrieb Rick Thomas: How do I know if a machine is ARMv4t? I have a sheevaplug and a couple of openrd machines (one “client”, the other “ultimate”) that are still doing useful work. Are they v4t? cat /proc/cpuinfo should do the trick. It might not show the 't' after

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

2017-11-07 Thread Rick Thomas
How do I know if a machine is ARMv4t? I have a sheevaplug and a couple of openrd machines (one “client”, the other “ultimate”) that are still doing useful work. Are they v4t? Thanks, Rick > On Nov 5, 2017, at 1:32 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > Hi, > > for the armel port in

Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

2017-11-05 Thread Adrian Bunk
Hi, for the armel port in buster the question of raising the baseline came up. 20 years ago you could go into a shop and buy a mobile phone with a CPU supported by the armel port in stretch. Roger Shimizu is doing a great job on ARMv5 hardware and I've seen bug reports from users on ARMv5