Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

On Mon 01 May 2017 at 14:48:13 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, May 01, 2017 at 01:18:58PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > They do. Both expect a command. You can "show" something but you can't > > "dev" it or, at least, I don't know how to. > > The surprise comes from the fact that

Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

On Wed 26 Apr 2017 at 15:26:36 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 04/26/2017 10:02 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >But did /sbin/ifconfig work? > > > > Had no reason to try. > Whenever I come across a command that *SHOULD* work, but does not, > the first diagnostic step is attempt to run the

Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

On Mon, May 01, 2017 at 01:18:58PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > They do. Both expect a command. You can "show" something but you can't > "dev" it or, at least, I don't know how to. The surprise comes from the fact that typically you can add "dev eth0" to the end of one working ip command, to get

Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

On Wed 26 Apr 2017 at 09:36:36 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 04/26/2017 07:50 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: > >On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 08:35:44AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >>On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 01:25:18PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > >>>For interface statistics from ip, try "ip -s link

Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

On Wed 26 Apr 2017 at 13:50:15 (+0100), Darac Marjal wrote: > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 08:35:44AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 01:25:18PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > >>For interface statistics from ip, try "ip -s link [interface]". > > > >On stretch: > > > >wooledg:~$ ip

Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

Original Message Subject: Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?] UTC Time: April 26, 2017 8:26 PM From: rowl...@cloud85.net In the *MAJORITY* of cases that it runs demonstrates that someone at sometime decided to restrict some computer

Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 03:26:36PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] > Whenever I come across a command that *SHOULD* work, but does not, > the first diagnostic step is attempt to run the *IDENTICAL* command > as root. Now you know better: you

Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

On 04/26/2017 10:02 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 26 April 2017 15:36:36 Richard Owlett wrote: On 04/26/2017 07:50 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 08:35:44AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 01:25:18PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: For interface

Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

On 2017-04-26, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 10:25:10AM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: >> On 04/26/2017 10:17 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> >On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 10:07:01AM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: >> >>"ifconfig" has to be run as root. > >> >This is not correct, if

Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote on 04/26/17 16:46: > On Qua, 26 Abr 2017, Richard Owlett wrote: >> I would go further saying iproute2 is non-functional due to being >> functionally >> un-documented. >> >> https://manpages.debian.org/jessie/iproute2/ip.8.en.html is useless. >> >> Functional commands,

Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

On Qua, 26 Abr 2017, Richard Owlett wrote: I would go further saying iproute2 is non-functional due to being functionally un-documented. https://manpages.debian.org/jessie/iproute2/ip.8.en.html is useless. Functional commands, for this thread's topic would be ip -s link or ip -s link ls

Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

On Wednesday 26 April 2017 15:36:36 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 04/26/2017 07:50 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 08:35:44AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 01:25:18PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > >>> For interface statistics from ip, try "ip -s link

Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

On 04/26/2017 07:50 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 08:35:44AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 01:25:18PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: For interface statistics from ip, try "ip -s link [interface]". On stretch: wooledg:~$ ip -s link eth0 Command "eth0" is

Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 10:25:10AM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: > On 04/26/2017 10:17 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 10:07:01AM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: > >>"ifconfig" has to be run as root. > >This is not correct, if you are just using it to view an interface rather > >than to

Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 10:07:01AM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: > On 04/26/2017 08:36 AM, Brian wrote: > >On Wed 26 Apr 2017 at 07:17:11 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >>On 04/25/2017 08:17 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >>>On 04/24/2017 04:12 PM, Ben

Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

On 04/26/2017 10:17 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 10:07:01AM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: "ifconfig" has to be run as root. ric@iam:~$ sudo ifconfig [sudo] password for ric: enp8s0: flags=4163 mtu 1500 This is not correct, if you are just using

Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 10:07:01AM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: > "ifconfig" has to be run as root. > ric@iam:~$ sudo ifconfig > [sudo] password for ric: > enp8s0: flags=4163 mtu 1500 This is not correct, if you are just using it to view an interface rather than to

Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

On 04/26/2017 08:36 AM, Brian wrote: On Wed 26 Apr 2017 at 07:17:11 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: On 04/25/2017 08:17 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 04/24/2017 04:12 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: On 24/04/17 22:58, Richard Owlett wrote: If there were user accessible registers with a running

Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 01:50:15PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 08:35:44AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 01:25:18PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > >>For interface statistics from ip, try "ip -s link

Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 08:35:44AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 01:25:18PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: For interface statistics from ip, try "ip -s link [interface]". On stretch: wooledg:~$ ip -s link eth0 Command "eth0" is unknown, try "ip link help". wooledg:~$ ip -s

Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

On Wed 26 Apr 2017 at 07:17:11 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 04/25/2017 08:17 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >On 04/24/2017 04:12 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > >>On 24/04/17 22:58, Richard Owlett wrote: > >>>If there were user accessible registers with a running total of >

Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 01:25:18PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > For interface statistics from ip, try "ip -s link [interface]". On stretch: wooledg:~$ ip -s link eth0 Command "eth0" is unknown, try "ip link help". wooledg:~$ ip -s link dev eth0 Command "dev" is unknown, try "ip link help".

Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

Richard Owlett: > > I did an install using expert mode, not selecting any GUI. > At several points during the install I did Alt-F2 to bring up a terminal to > attempt running ifconfig. > > "Command not found" was the uniform response. > I booted the new install and attempted as root to run

Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 07:17:11AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: On 04/25/2017 08:17 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 04/24/2017 04:12 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: On 24/04/17 22:58, Richard Owlett wrote: If there were user accessible registers with a running total of uploaded/downloaded data

BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

On 04/25/2017 08:17 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 04/24/2017 04:12 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: On 24/04/17 22:58, Richard Owlett wrote: If there were user accessible registers with a running total of uploaded/downloaded data since device power on would be almost ideal granularity. Is