Re: Can "PulseAudio Volume Control" devs be redeemed?

2017-07-24 Thread Nicolas George
Le sextidi 6 thermidor, an CCXXV, Erik Christiansen a écrit : > When two meters back from a big monitor, with wireless keyboard to > bridge the gap, and eyes which have made 63 trips around the big shiny > yellow thing, those tiny flyspecks are worth nothing in terms of user > interface. I feel

Re: Can "PulseAudio Volume Control" devs be redeemed?

2017-07-23 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 23.07.17 22:00, Martin Read wrote: > There seem to be some other changes to the upstream glade file between > version 2.0 and version 3.0, which have some indirect effect on the window > geometry. Both versions have a nominal default width of 500, yet in the > version in Debian 8 the window

Re: Can "PulseAudio Volume Control" devs be redeemed?

2017-07-23 Thread Martin Read
On 23/07/17 16:48, Curt wrote: Except that the default 500x400 geometry is the same in Jessie and Wheezy and seems sufficient since nobody appears to be having any problems seeing all 5 tabs but Erik. There seem to be some other changes to the upstream glade file between version 2.0 and

Re: Can "PulseAudio Volume Control" devs be redeemed?

2017-07-23 Thread Curt
On 2017-07-23, Curt wrote: > > I took the scientific route and downloaded the deb for Stretch > (amd64, my particular sauce) and unpacked it (dpkg -x > pavucontrol_3.0-3.1_amd64.deb _directory_) and indeed the default > geometry for the window is set in pavucontrol.glade at 500x400

Re: Can "PulseAudio Volume Control" devs be redeemed?

2017-07-23 Thread Curt
On 2017-07-23, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 7/22/17, Curt wrote: >> On 2017-07-22, Ric Moore wrote: >>> On 07/22/2017 12:51 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: >>> There is no rational explanation for failing to make all 5 tabs

Re: Distro redeemable with this fix. [Was: Can "PulseAudio Volume Control" devs be redeemed?]

2017-07-23 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 7/23/17, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 23.07.17 13:33, Martin Read wrote: >> The shared data file describing the default window structure of >> pavucontrol >> is /usr/share/pavucontrol/pavucontrol.glade. The corresponding file in >> the >> pavucontrol-2.0 (found in

Re: Can "PulseAudio Volume Control" devs be redeemed?

2017-07-23 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 7/22/17, Curt wrote: > On 2017-07-22, Ric Moore wrote: >> On 07/22/2017 12:51 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: >> >>> There is no rational explanation for failing to make all 5 tabs visible. >> >> No idea what your problem is, I have always been able to see

Distro redeemable with this fix. [Was: Can "PulseAudio Volume Control" devs be redeemed?]

2017-07-23 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 23.07.17 13:33, Martin Read wrote: > The shared data file describing the default window structure of pavucontrol > is /usr/share/pavucontrol/pavucontrol.glade. The corresponding file in the > pavucontrol-2.0 (found in Debian jessie) and pavucontrol-3.0 (found in > Debian stretch) source trees

Re: Can "PulseAudio Volume Control" devs be redeemed?

2017-07-23 Thread Martin Read
On 22/07/17 13:20, Erik Christiansen wrote: What we need to do is examine whether the Debian 9.0.0 distro-smith last had it shrunken, and it is therefore in that condition in the distro. If we knew what config file contains the menu gumpf, that could perhaps be revealed, and minimise the need

Re: Can "PulseAudio Volume Control" devs be redeemed?

2017-07-22 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 22.07.17 13:47, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > Erik Christiansen writes: > > Aha, if the "PulseAudio Volume Control" window is manually widened, the > > suppressed tabs become visible. Is it then the Debian 9.0.0 distro-smiths > > who have set too small a window size in their LXDE menu item

Re: Can "PulseAudio Volume Control" devs be redeemed?

2017-07-22 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Erik Christiansen writes: > Aha, if the "PulseAudio Volume Control" window is manually widened, the > suppressed tabs become visible. Is it then the Debian 9.0.0 distro-smiths > who have set too small a window size in their LXDE menu item invocation? It seems to remember what size it was last

Re: Can "PulseAudio Volume Control" devs be redeemed?

2017-07-22 Thread Curt
On 2017-07-22, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 22.07.17 09:36, Curt wrote: >> On 2017-07-22, Ric Moore wrote: >> > On 07/22/2017 12:51 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: >> > >> >> There is no rational explanation for failing to make all 5 tabs visible. >>

Re: Can "PulseAudio Volume Control" devs be redeemed?

2017-07-22 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 22.07.17 09:36, Curt wrote: > On 2017-07-22, Ric Moore wrote: > > On 07/22/2017 12:51 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > > >> There is no rational explanation for failing to make all 5 tabs visible. > > > > No idea what your problem is, I have always been able to see the

Re: Can "PulseAudio Volume Control" devs be redeemed?

2017-07-22 Thread Curt
On 2017-07-22, Ric Moore wrote: > On 07/22/2017 12:51 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: > >> There is no rational explanation for failing to make all 5 tabs visible. > > No idea what your problem is, I have always been able to see the tabs. Ric > Me neither. I've got all five.

Re: Can "PulseAudio Volume Control" devs be redeemed?

2017-07-21 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 22.07.17 14:23, Joel Rees wrote: > On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Erik Christiansen > > > > There is no rational explanation for failing to make all 5 tabs visible. > > > > Erik > > (Who in 30 years of s/w development never let a team member produce crap > > like that.) > > > > I think there

Re: Can "PulseAudio Volume Control" devs be redeemed?

2017-07-21 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Erik Christiansen wrote: > After two days of trying to google ways to get audio on the hdmi output > on a shiny new Udoo X86 running debian 9.0.0, sheer gritted-teeth > determination, smacking the walls of the GUI rat's maze lucked onto

Re: Can "PulseAudio Volume Control" devs be redeemed?

2017-07-21 Thread Ric Moore
On 07/22/2017 12:51 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: There is no rational explanation for failing to make all 5 tabs visible. No idea what your problem is, I have always been able to see the tabs. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the

Can "PulseAudio Volume Control" devs be redeemed?

2017-07-21 Thread Erik Christiansen
After two days of trying to google ways to get audio on the hdmi output on a shiny new Udoo X86 running debian 9.0.0, sheer gritted-teeth determination, smacking the walls of the GUI rat's maze lucked onto the deeply concealed interface. On the LXDE desktop, the "Sound & Video" -> "PulseAudio