Re: mailto followup headers (was: Re: Content Management System sought)

2002-12-17 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Nori Heikkinen said: on Sat, 14 Dec 2002 04:13:00PM -0500, Stephen Gran insinuated: It _should_, but it didn't. To fix the crazy pager settings, use this folder-hook . 'set index_format=%4C %Z %{%b%d} %-15.15n(%4c) %s' It makes the From: appear normally

Re: mailto followup headers (was: Re: Content Management System sought)

2002-12-17 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Stephen Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.17.2226 +0100]: okay, only one catch: that's perfect for every box except for sent. how do i (or where should i read to find out how) tell mutt's pager to display whom it's to, but only in the sent box? folder-hook =sentbox 'set

Re: broken keyservers (was: Content Management System sought)

2002-12-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.16.0241 +0100]: i don't have 2 UIDs for one e-mail, I have two subkeys: Sorry typo. Having 2 subkeys is the problem with keyservers. Newer GPG has someoption to deal corrupted keys. do you

Re: mailto followup headers (was: Re: Content Management System sought)

2002-12-16 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Sat, 14 Dec 2002 04:13:00PM -0500, Stephen Gran insinuated: It _should_, but it didn't. To fix the crazy pager settings, use this folder-hook . 'set index_format=%4C %Z %{%b%d} %-15.15n(%4c) %s' It makes the From: appear normally for mailing lists in the pager. okay, only one catch:

Re: mailto followup headers (was: Re: Content Management System sought)

2002-12-16 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Nori Heikkinen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021216 16:59]: on Sat, 14 Dec 2002 04:13:00PM -0500, Stephen Gran insinuated: It _should_, but it didn't. To fix the crazy pager settings, use this folder-hook . 'set index_format=%4C %Z %{%b%d} %-15.15n(%4c) %s' It makes the From: appear

Re: mailto followup headers (was: Re: Content Management System sought)

2002-12-16 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Mon, 16 Dec 2002 06:02:57PM -0800, Vineet Kumar insinuated: * Nori Heikkinen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021216 16:59]: on Sat, 14 Dec 2002 04:13:00PM -0500, Stephen Gran insinuated: It _should_, but it didn't. To fix the crazy pager settings, use this folder-hook . 'set

Re: mailto followup headers (was: Re: Content Management System sought)

2002-12-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Nori Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.17.0151 +0100]: okay, only one catch: that's perfect for every box except for sent. how do i (or where should i read to find out how) tell mutt's pager to display whom it's to, but only in the sent box? folder-hook .set index_format =

Re: mailto followup headers (was: Re: Content Management System sought)

2002-12-15 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Stephen Gran ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021214 13:13]: to the original, are you replying with 'L'? I think that's how mutt knows that it should insert that header. Nope, mutt uses M-F-T even when composing a message addressed to a known mailing list (either via the lists ir subscribe .muttrc

broken keyservers (was: Content Management System sought)

2002-12-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Rob Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.14.1035 +0100]: NOTE: The public PGP keyservers are broken! Get my key here: http://people.debian.org/~madduck/gpg/330c4a75.asc Which ones? wwwkeys.uk.pgp.net seems to work fine for me. i have two encryption keys on my key.

Re: broken keyservers (was: Content Management System sought)

2002-12-15 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 12:26:25PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Rob Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.14.1035 +0100]: NOTE: The public PGP keyservers are broken! Get my key here: http://people.debian.org/~madduck/gpg/330c4a75.asc Which ones? wwwkeys.uk.pgp.net seems to work

Re: broken keyservers (was: Content Management System sought)

2002-12-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.15.1255 +0100]: Never make 2 uid for one e-mail if you want to use buggy keyservers. :) i don't have 2 UIDs for one e-mail, I have two subkeys: sub 2048g/D99FEE8D 2001-06-20 [expires: 2002-06-20] sub 2048g/900227D4 2002-06-20 [expires:

Re: broken keyservers (was: Content Management System sought)

2002-12-15 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 05:26:37PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.15.1255 +0100]: Never make 2 uid for one e-mail if you want to use buggy keyservers. :) i don't have 2 UIDs for one e-mail, I have two subkeys: Sorry typo. Having 2 subkeys is

Re: broken keyservers (was: Content Management System sought)

2002-12-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.16.0241 +0100]: i don't have 2 UIDs for one e-mail, I have two subkeys: Sorry typo. Having 2 subkeys is the problem with keyservers. Newer GPG has someoption to deal corrupted keys. do you have evidence that my key is corrupted? i just

OT: reply-to (was: Content Management System sought)

2002-12-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.14.0622 +0100]: Yep I know I've used L infrequently with mutt. It just so happens that most lists, even in the Unix/Linux world use reply-to, so that feature wasn't used /that/ much, personally, and I'm on a *fair amount* of comp related e-mail

mailto followup headers (was: Re: Content Management System sought)

2002-12-14 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:40:00PM +0100, martin f krafft insinuated: also sprach Nori Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.13.2227 +0100]: (a) how do i set up Mail-Followup-To, for a specific list, and http://larve.net/people/hugo/2000/07/ml-mutt okay, that's great -- thanks. so i put the

Re: mailto followup headers (was: Re: Content Management System sought)

2002-12-14 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Nori Heikkinen said: on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:40:00PM +0100, martin f krafft insinuated: also sprach Nori Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.13.2227 +0100]: (a) how do i set up Mail-Followup-To, for a specific list, and

Re: mailto followup headers (was: Re: Content Management System sought)

2002-12-14 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Sat, 14 Dec 2002 01:27:43PM -0500, Stephen Gran insinuated: This one time, at band camp, Nori Heikkinen said: but if i do that, will messages sent to SLUG to which people reply-all be sent to debian-user? i'm confused on this point. thanks, /nori You don't need the

Re: mailto followup headers (was: Re: Content Management System sought)

2002-12-14 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Nori Heikkinen said: oh, sweet. okay. so i've probably had it set already :) thanks! /nori Hmmm . . . just now, looking at your headers, you don't have it set. Not sure why, though - perhaps either send me a link to your .muttrc, or send it privately? --

Re: mailto followup headers (was: Re: Content Management System sought)

2002-12-14 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Sat, 14 Dec 2002 02:56:23PM -0500, Stephen Gran insinuated: This one time, at band camp, Nori Heikkinen said: oh, sweet. okay. so i've probably had it set already :) Hmmm . . . just now, looking at your headers, you don't have it set. Not sure why, though - perhaps either send me a link

Re: mailto followup headers (was: Re: Content Management System sought)

2002-12-14 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 the mental interface of Nori Heikkinen told: on Sat, 14 Dec 2002 02:56:23PM -0500, Stephen Gran insinuated: This one time, at band camp, Nori Heikkinen said: oh, sweet. okay. so i've probably had it set already :) Hmmm . . . just now, looking at your headers, you

Re: mailto followup headers (was: Re: Content Management System sought)

2002-12-14 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Nori Heikkinen said: probably because i'm sending mail not from my computer, because (other post) i can't download mail there for now. so i just modified my muttrc on this machine, to say subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] and doing that made everything in my

Re: mailto followup headers (was: Re: Content Management System sought)

2002-12-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 12:19:18PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote: on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:40:00PM +0100, martin f krafft insinuated: also sprach Nori Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.13.2227 +0100]: (a) how do i set up Mail-Followup-To, for a specific list, and

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-14 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 11:40:00PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Nori Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.13.2227 +0100]: (a) how do i set up Mail-Followup-To, for a specific list, and http://larve.net/people/hugo/2000/07/ml-mutt Or for the terminally lazy (like me) add a

Re: mailto followup headers (was: Re: Content Management System sought)

2002-12-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Elimar Riesebieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.14.2114 +0100]: To reply to a mailing list you have to type L and not r ;-) i have all my listmail filed by procmail underneath the =mass/ hierarchy, so i can do this: folder-hook .bind index g group-reply ; bind pager g

Re: mailto followup headers (was: Re: Content Management System sought)

2002-12-14 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Sat, 14 Dec 2002 04:13:00PM -0500, Stephen Gran insinuated: This one time, at band camp, Nori Heikkinen said: probably because i'm sending mail not from my computer, because (other post) i can't download mail there for now. so i just modified my muttrc on this machine, to say

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.12.1927 +0100]: If it's just xfree86-common, that shouldn't be too much of a problem ... that package doesn't contain much. It's xlibs mainly. The 'client libraries' which I shouldn't need on a server, even if it does CMS. -- Please do not

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Charlie Reiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.12.1936 +0100]: True. And most Zopers think DTML is evil as well and folks should be switching to ZPT. But I understand your need to keep the users happy. Can you point me to a ZPT reference? Sounds awesome... So there's a bit of a holy

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.12.2101 +0100]: note thats a source package :) last time I tried it, it wasn't really worth it, the person who made it, didn't really complete it so its pretty much like packaging a few .tar.gz files into a .deb with a README. right. i have since

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.12.2158 +0100]: Check out WebGUI - I'm surprised no-one has suggested it, one of the best Linux CMS. It needs MySQL and ImageMagick too. the latter is not a problem. The former is. I run postgres only and would never switch. -- Please do not CC

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-13 Thread Randy Edwards
Do you know any other software pieces that feature the above and are preferably contained in Debian? My advice would be to look into PostNuke http://www.postnuke.com with various modules (e.g. phpWiki). I run it on http://www.debianhelp.org and I think you'll see all the features there

RE: Content Management System sought

2002-12-13 Thread Charlie Reiman
-Original Message- From: martin f krafft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 2:35 AM To: debian users Subject: Re: Content Management System sought also sprach Charlie Reiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.12.1936 +0100]: True. And most Zopers think DTML

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.13.1825 +0100]: It needs MySQL and ImageMagick too. the latter is not a problem. The former is. I run postgres only and would never switch. Yeah Postgres is much better and WebGUI will work with it. Perhaps take a look at

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-13 Thread Steve
On 12/13/2002 11:13 AM, martin f krafft pounded the keyboard with stubby fingers to type: It needs MySQL and ImageMagick too. the latter is not a problem. The former is. I run postgres only and would never switch. Yeah Postgres is much better and WebGUI will work with it. Perhaps take a look

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Randy Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.13.1832 +0100]: My advice would be to look into PostNuke http://www.postnuke.com with various modules (e.g. phpWiki). I run it on http://www.debianhelp.org and I think you'll see all the features there that you're looking for.

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-13 Thread Steve
On 12/13/2002 12:30 PM, martin f krafft pounded the keyboard with stubby fingers to type: Why does it need DBD::mysql then? also, the ./docs/* files in the latest (release candidate) files only mention MySQL, postgres is never mentioned. oh wait, that's because the above URL compares version

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-13 Thread Steve
On 12/13/2002 12:30 PM, martin f krafft pounded the keyboard with stubby fingers to type: also sprach Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.13.1825 +0100]: It needs MySQL and ImageMagick too. the latter is not a problem. The former is. I run postgres only and would never switch. Yeah Postgres is

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-13 Thread Andrew Perrin
What about Back-End? (http://sourceforge.net/projects/back-end/) Disclaimer: I know nothing about it, just happened to run across it yesterday. ap -- Andrew J Perrin - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin Assistant Professor of

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.13.1849 +0100]: I really don't know, I don't use it with PostgresSQL. However I'm sure if you contact Plainback software directly or ask on their user forums http://www.plainblack.com/discuss?wid=4func=viewpn=10, they'll be more than happy to

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-13 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 07:55:43PM +0100, martin f krafft insinuated: also sprach Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.13.1849 +0100]: Perhaps the powers that be, should rethink this e-mail list policy. No, please don't. http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html okay, i've read this -- what i

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Andrew Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.13.1939 +0100]: What about Back-End? (http://sourceforge.net/projects/back-end/) MySQL. Over my dead body ;^ Thanks though! -- Please do not CC me! Get a proper mailer instead: www.mutt.org .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Nori Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.13.2227 +0100]: (a) how do i set up Mail-Followup-To, for a specific list, and http://larve.net/people/hugo/2000/07/ml-mutt (b) how is that not in conflict with munging headers? huh? because you don't munge headers that way, you just

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-13 Thread Steve
On 12/13/2002 1:55 PM, martin f krafft pounded the keyboard with stubby fingers to type: Perhaps the powers that be, should rethink this e-mail list policy. No, please don't. http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html Well, If you followed the principle laid out in that memorandum,

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.14.0107 +0100]: Well, If you followed the principle laid out in that memorandum, you'd accept replies to your inbox, as a reply-all does that. I don't agree with the way the list is setup btw. It's too unweldy for the reasons I outlined

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-13 Thread Steve
On 12/13/2002 8:42 PM, martin f krafft pounded the keyboard with stubby fingers to type: The point being - a proper mailer like mutt makes dealing with lists very easy. If you prefer Mozilla, then you might want to consider helping out to get that functionality into Mozilla... Yep I know

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.12.0011 +0100]: there is a source package for eZpublish but I reccomend going with the real distribution, probably more up to date(last I checked there was no binary distribution included with debian 3). there's one for woody:

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Charlie Reiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.12.0017 +0100]: Zope does do PHP: http://www.zope.org/Members/hewei/PHParser cool. I haven't used it. I can't imagine why you'd want to support PHP in Zope if you are starting from scratch. because i am only the admin and need to make

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.12.0403 +0100]: postnuke the debian package needs mysql. no way! postgres here. phpnuke this is totally slashdot like, is it not? (and so is postnuke)? tikiwiki it's a wiki. we don't want a wiki. we want a CMS. i

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 05:56:32PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.12.0011 +0100]: there is a source package for eZpublish but I reccomend going with the real distribution, probably more up to date(last I checked there was no binary distribution

RE: Content Management System sought

2002-12-12 Thread Charlie Reiman
-Original Message- From: martin f krafft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 8:59 AM To: debian users Subject: Re: Content Management System sought also sprach Charlie Reiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.12.0017 +0100]: Zope does do PHP: http

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-12 Thread nate
martin f krafft said: there's one for woody: pool/main/e/ezpublish/ezpublish-src_2.2.6-0.woody.1_all.deb but my first negative argument: it depends on libmagic and thus pulls in xfree86-common, which I don't want or need on a server. note thats a source package :) last time I tried it,

Content Management System sought

2002-12-11 Thread martin f krafft
Folks, My lab wants to institute a CMS to handle the entire website. I have a little experience with Zope and it's pretty nice, but I would like to get some alternatives before suggesting it. We basically need: - a simple way to provide a common look to all pages - a simple web-based way to

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-11 Thread nate
martin f krafft said: Folks, My lab wants to institute a CMS to handle the entire website. I have a little experience with Zope and it's pretty nice, but I would like to get some alternatives before suggesting it. We basically need: how about eZpublish? http://developer.ez.no/ its very

RE: Content Management System sought

2002-12-11 Thread Charlie Reiman
-Original Message- From: martin f krafft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 2:37 PM To: debian users Subject: Content Management System sought Folks, My lab wants to institute a CMS to handle the entire website. I have a little experience with Zope

Re: Content Management System sought

2002-12-11 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (on Wednesday, 11 December 2002, 11:36 PM +0100): My lab wants to institute a CMS to handle the entire website. I have a little experience with Zope and it's pretty nice, but I would like to get some alternatives before suggesting it. We basically