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On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 11:34:50PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> And that's the way a lot of my generation learned to drive; Dad plopped
> us down in his lap as four-year olds and let us take the wheel. Of
> course we weren't very successful, so Dad had
Paul Johnson wrote:
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On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 08:22:19PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 07:50:24PM +, Pedro M. wrote:
I prefer Knoppix Hard Disk Installation, that includes hardware
autodetection and autoconfiguration, wha
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On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 08:22:19PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 07:50:24PM +, Pedro M. wrote:
> > I prefer Knoppix Hard Disk Installation, that includes hardware
> > autodetection and autoconfiguration, what it is better for
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 07:50:24PM +, Pedro M. wrote:
> I prefer Knoppix Hard Disk Installation, that includes hardware
> autodetection and autoconfiguration, what it is better for the new user
> ;) . Time to learn is later...
Time to learn is "later"? Where does *that* idiocy come from? E
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On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 07:21:09PM +0200, Ovidiu Cojocaru wrote:
> Gentoo has an installation guide. The user is supposed to read that
> guide and follow the simple, in my opinion, guidelines. Basically, the
> user creates the partition, filesystems,
Ovidiu Cojocaru wrote:
On 02/06/04 16:49, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 04:26:59PM +0900, Clemens Schwaighofer wrote:
There is one more Pro thing, I learned very good how to install a system
without using any kind of installer.
Gentoo has no installer?
Gentoo has an installation g
On 02/06/04 16:49, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 04:26:59PM +0900, Clemens Schwaighofer wrote:
There is one more Pro thing, I learned very good how to install a system
without using any kind of installer.
Gentoo has no installer?
Gentoo has an installation guide. The user is suppos
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On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 04:26:59PM +0900, Clemens Schwaighofer wrote:
> There is one more Pro thing, I learned very good how to install a system
> without using any kind of installer.
Gentoo has no installer?
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Paul Johnson wrote:
| On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 01:43:18PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
| Off the top of my head with Gentoo...
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| Pro: You get optimized everything.
| Con: The milliseconds you save with optimization of things that don't
| really benefit fr
On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 07:13:01PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> CCing this just in case WB has left the building...
>
> On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 11:32:48AM -0700, W. B. Maguire II wrote:
> > And what about discretization in other areas? I asked a question about the
> > Debian install (3.0 r1) not
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On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 06:07:25PM +0800, Katipo wrote:
> I've had a hand in taking an off topic thread and migrating it to
> curiosa, and the list members were not amused.
> It is not a dumping ground for off topic threads, it is a list for the
> disc
On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 09:26:29PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 01:04:01PM +0800, Katipo wrote:
> > No it isn't.
>
> Care to expand? Or learn to quote?
http://lists.debian.org/debian-curiosa/:
"Funny thing from and with the project, funny quotes, discussions
irc
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 21:26:29 -0800
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> On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 01:04:01PM +0800, Katipo wrote:
> > No it isn't.
>
> Care to expand? Or learn to quote?
I've had a hand in taking an off topic thread and migr
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On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 10:30:43PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> Okay, rephrased: "Messages of general interest or opinions that are
> off-topic don't belong on this list . . .", whereas messages of general
> interest or opinions that are on-topic (e.g D
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On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 01:04:01PM +0800, Katipo wrote:
> No it isn't.
Care to expand? Or learn to quote?
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> On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 11:40:08AM -0500, Adam Aube wrote:
> > I think a separate General Discussion list would be a good idea - it
> > would keep debian-user focused on
Paul Johnson wrote:
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On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 01:43:18PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
Off-topic messages of general interest
or opinions don't belong on this list . . . .
Looking at the info for debian-user, I don't see anything about it
being exclus
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On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 12:04:58PM -0700, W. B. Maguire II wrote:
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> I received one lightning-fast private response to my post. Unfortunately,
> it isn't of much help, and I don't think it's an example of Debian support
> at its best!
Sounds like
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On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 01:43:18PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> The purpose of this list is for users (experienced or newbies) to help
> users (experienced or newbies). Off-topic messages of general interest
> or opinions don't belong on this list, but
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On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 11:32:48AM -0700, W. B. Maguire II wrote:
> And what about discretization in other areas? I asked a question about the
> Debian install (3.0 r1) not recognizing my HDDs conn
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On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 12:19:52AM +1100, Pascal Hakim wrote:
> My experience with this type of thing is that everyone wants other
> people to listen to them, but very few people want to listen to others
> for an extended period of time.
Yeah, it's a
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On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 11:40:08AM -0500, Adam Aube wrote:
> I think a separate General Discussion list would be a good idea - it would
> keep debian-user focused on user support. Perhaps call it debian-talk or
> debian-chat?
That's what debian-curi
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On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 08:23:58PM +0800, Uwe Dippel wrote:
> ... However, this list gets out of hands. With a few hundered posts per
> day; it's almost impossible to follow.
> Plus: the increase of noise / dups.
> Just today, we had a few people aski
Incoming from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>
> I happen to agree with Monique on this one, if something is off topic, or
> does not get your attention skip it. When you read a magazine do you read every
> article, front to back, use the same method here.
A magazine tends to stay relatively the same size fr
On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 11:40:08AM -0500, Adam Aube wrote:
> I think a separate General Discussion list would be a good idea - it would
> keep debian-user focused on user support. Perhaps call it debian-talk or
> debian-chat?
>
debian-curiosa?
My experience with this type of thing is that eve
on Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 08:23:58PM +0800, Uwe Dippel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> This was on Slashdot and this is what I see around me.
> Very good, applause !
...and here I was expecting another complaint about the amount of
\/@|gr/-\ spam on the list or something
Peace.
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On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 06:28:04PM -0800, Dale Welch wrote:
> One thing to be careful of is it defaults to testing or unstable and
> so right now an upgrade of the gnome components will wipe out gnome.
> a few things are broken right now. ;-(
GNOME should be fixed in testing now.
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On 2004-02-02, David Clymer penned:
> On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 13:32, W. B. Maguire II wrote:
>
>> >I think that genuine newbies who don't know how to find information
>> >in the first place, and may not know which domain applies to their
>> >particular problems, anyway, will end up posting to the "wr
If you want it easy... like i do. Then try morphix. http://www.morphix.org/
has fairly good hardware detection (in fact not bad to use as a live-cd and
then just see what it set in the configuration files).
works as a live-cd without installing... get the game one and the gnome or
kde one and y
On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 03:35:28PM -0500, David Clymer wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 13:32, W. B. Maguire II wrote:
> > The end result? The end result is unfortunate for Debian. I really *did*
> > want to try Debian, but with the only response I got to my
> > hour-long-researching-post being
Kent:
At 01:43 PM 2/2/04 -0600, you wrote:
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Wrong, IMO! I think it is quite arrogant to dismiss a "newbie" list
because of an attitude that "newbies would be too dumb to find it!"
Perhaps it is arrogant, but I agree with the person referred to above as
"you" (Monique maybe?). Even experien
On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 11:32:48AM -0700, W. B. Maguire II wrote:
> At 10:03 AM 2/2/04 -0700, you wrote:
> Wrong, IMO! I think it is quite arrogant to dismiss a "newbie" list
> because of an attitude that "newbies would be too dumb to find it!" *I'm*
> a Debian newbie, and *I* spent the time
W. B. Maguire II wrote:
I *wanted* to run Debian, but [I'm having problems with my Rocket-133
controller].
If you have a copy of Knoppix, you might try throwing that into your box
and see if it recognizes the controller. Since Knoppix is Debian-based,
if it does recognize your controller, you c
davidc:
At 03:35 PM 2/2/04 -0500, you wrote:
:
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I think you read a bit more into that post than was intended. Who says
you are a "genuine newbie"? Didn't you say you've been running RedHat
for a year? If the shoe doesnt fit, don't wear it.
Fair enough, but I thought it *did* fit! I *am* a newb
On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 13:32, W. B. Maguire II wrote:
> >I think that genuine newbies who don't know how to find information in
> >the first place, and may not know which domain applies to their
> >particular problems, anyway, will end up posting to the "wrong" list
> >anyway, and getting flamed fo
W. B. Maguire II wrote:
At 10:03 AM 2/2/04 -0700, you wrote:
On 2004-02-02, Uwe Dippel penned:
> How about creating sub-topics ? Newbies, X, Kernel (2.6),
> Applications, Advocating, General Discussion, Printing, you-name-it.
I think that genuine newbies who don't know how to find information
I didn't see your original mail, as although I subscribe to the list I don't
often get the time to read it all, I will however go back and find it now. I do
have a kernel (2.4.18 I'm afraid) wit rocket raid module. Which I would be happy
to send you to try if you wish. I'll read your mail and ch
I received one lightning-fast private response to my post. Unfortunately,
it isn't of much help, and I don't think it's an example of Debian support
at its best!
I've removed the name of the sender, but I thought that the response was
interesting enough to warrant posting to the list.
At 01:
At 10:03 AM 2/2/04 -0700, you wrote:
On 2004-02-02, Uwe Dippel penned:
> This was on Slashdot and this is what I see around me. Very good,
> applause !
>
> ... However, this list gets out of hands. With a few hundered posts
> per day; it's almost impossible to follow.
Wow... I was *just* consid
On 2004-02-02, Uwe Dippel penned:
> This was on Slashdot and this is what I see around me. Very good,
> applause !
>
> ... However, this list gets out of hands. With a few hundered posts
> per day; it's almost impossible to follow. Plus: the increase of
> noise / dups. Just today, we had a few p
Uwe Dippel wrote:
I'd like to learn, share and give, but currently about 80-90 % of what I
see is repetition, noise, shallow. Even clicking through (downloading)
takes simply too much time.
What do others think ?
Maybe you can do what I do - use the list over NNTP at gmane.org. :)
- Sandip
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On Monday 02 February 2004 07:23 am, Uwe Dippel wrote:
> How about creating sub-topics ? Newbies, X, Kernel (2.6), Applications,
> Advocating, General Discussion, Printing, you-name-it.
I think a separate General Discussion list would be a good idea - it would
keep debian-user focused on user sup
This was on Slashdot and this is what I see around me.
Very good, applause !
... However, this list gets out of hands. With a few hundered posts per
day; it's almost impossible to follow.
Plus: the increase of noise / dups.
Just today, we had a few people asking from scratch about security being
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