Re: ECC Ram (Was: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits)

2009-12-15 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Mark Allums put forth on 12/15/2009 9:48 PM: > On 12/15/2009 9:43 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> Enter the SmartArray BIOS utility, wipe the current drive config, create >> a RAID 10 set. From the Debian installer, on the resulting 146GB RAID >> 10 disk, create a 100MB partition for /boot, a 4GB s

Re: ECC Ram (Was: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits)

2009-12-15 Thread Mark Allums
On 12/15/2009 12:14 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:58:02 -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 14:22, Andrew M.A. Cater Get good quality memory (possibly ECC memory if you can) and you'll have a workhorse for a long period of time. Since I doubt he is running a DB

Re: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits

2009-12-15 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Mark Allums put forth on 12/15/2009 3:44 PM: > Quite right, seconded! Except that I think you mean root /, not /root. Yes, thanks for the correction. That user called "root" def doesn't need 30GB of space for his files. ;) -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debia

Re: ECC Ram (Was: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits)

2009-12-15 Thread Mark Allums
On 12/15/2009 9:43 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Enter the SmartArray BIOS utility, wipe the current drive config, create a RAID 10 set. From the Debian installer, on the resulting 146GB RAID 10 disk, create a 100MB partition for /boot, a 4GB swap partition, and a 20GB partition for /root, and creat

Re: ECC Ram (Was: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits)

2009-12-15 Thread Stan Hoeppner
amka put forth on 12/15/2009 3:08 PM: > Le mardi 15 décembre 2009 à 10:34 -0800, Kelly Clowers a écrit : >> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:14, Camaleón wrote: >>> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:58:02 -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote: >>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 14:22, Andrew M.A. Cater > Get good quality m

Re: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits

2009-12-15 Thread Mark Allums
On 12/14/2009 9:59 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Use mdadm/LVM and mirror a 100MB /boot and 30GB /root across all four drives. Of the remaining 270GB on each drive, setup a RAID 10 array and put your database files there. You'll get maximum data protection and access speed/throughput using RAID 10.

Re: ECC Ram (Was: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits)

2009-12-15 Thread amka
Le mardi 15 décembre 2009 à 10:34 -0800, Kelly Clowers a écrit : > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:14, Camaleón wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:58:02 -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote: > > > >> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 14:22, Andrew M.A. Cater > > > >>> Get good quality memory (possibly ECC memory if you can

Re: ECC Ram (Was: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits)

2009-12-15 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:14, Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:58:02 -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 14:22, Andrew M.A. Cater > >>> Get good quality memory (possibly ECC memory if you can) and you'll >>> have a workhorse for a long period of time. >> >> Since I do

ECC Ram (Was: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits)

2009-12-15 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:58:02 -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote: > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 14:22, Andrew M.A. Cater >> Get good quality memory (possibly ECC memory if you can) and you'll >> have a workhorse for a long period of time. > > Since I doubt he is running a DB that big just for fun, I would sa

Re: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits

2009-12-15 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 14:22, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:30:24PM +, amka wrote: >> I am going to build a Postgresql server, and  will execute a lot of perl >> (local) scripts in relation with the database. A lot of read/write in >> large tables (>10'000'000 rows)

Re: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits

2009-12-15 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:30:24PM +, amka wrote: > Le dimanche 13 décembre 2009 à 01:56 -0600, Mark Allums a écrit : > > On 12/12/2009 6:32 PM, amka wrote: > > > I am going to buy a new computer and wonder what is the best for 64bits. > > > AMD or Intel ? > > > > > > Could someone give me plea

Re: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits

2009-12-14 Thread Stan Hoeppner
amka put forth on 12/14/2009 4:30 PM: > So, I want something fine. With all due respect, your definition of "fine" is misguided. See my previous email about the difference between "workstation" and "consumer" class products. There are "fine" products in both classes. You are of the belief tha

Re: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits

2009-12-14 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 14:30, amka wrote: > Le dimanche 13 décembre 2009 à 01:56 -0600, Mark Allums a écrit : >> On 12/12/2009 6:32 PM, amka wrote: >> > I am going to buy a new computer and wonder what is the best for 64bits. >> > AMD or Intel ? >> > >> > Could someone give me please an advice ?

Re: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits

2009-12-14 Thread amka
Le dimanche 13 décembre 2009 à 01:56 -0600, Mark Allums a écrit : > On 12/12/2009 6:32 PM, amka wrote: > > I am going to buy a new computer and wonder what is the best for 64bits. > > AMD or Intel ? > > > > Could someone give me please an advice ? > > > > I have actualy an AMD Opteron and the idea

Re: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits

2009-12-14 Thread Mark
>On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Celejar wrote: > >I suspect (and I may be completely mistaken) that the major improvement >you saw may have been from the first 256 MB increase, from 256 to 512, >and I am therefore not at all sure that you'd gain all that much from >going up to 2 GB. Celejar has

Re: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits

2009-12-14 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 21:10:19 -0800 Marc Shapiro wrote: ... > When I upgraded from 250 MB to 1.25 GB I noticed a marked improvement > and an upgrade to 2 GB would probably help even more. Of course I have > three people logged in, each with their own X session and my wife likes > to keep 20+

Re: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits

2009-12-14 Thread Dirk Neumann
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:50:10 -0800 Kelly Clowers wrote: > > Personally, I like my 4 gigs; running Awesome WM with terminals > and 2 instances of Gecko browsers, each with a plethora of tabs, > I barely touch the swap space. And don't forget your VM-image running completely from cache... Dirk.

Re: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits

2009-12-14 Thread Mark Allums
On 12/13/2009 1:53 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Mark Allums put forth on 12/13/2009 8:16 AM: The question of dual-core vs. 4-core has been raised; with i7, you get potentially the best of both with "turbo boost". It is capable of shutting down unused coes while speeding up in-use ones to keep pow

Re: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits

2009-12-13 Thread Marc Shapiro
Celejar wrote: On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:56:28 -0600 Mark Allums wrote: ... It has triple-channel memory, and I have 12 GB. This is about 10 GB more than Debian needs, unless you are doing a lot of virtual server 11.5 GB, at least ;) I used to (as recently as about a year ago) run with 512

Re: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits

2009-12-13 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:50:10 -0800 Kelly Clowers wrote: > On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 17:40, Celejar wrote: > > On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:56:28 -0600 > > Mark Allums wrote: > > > > ... > > > >> It has triple-channel memory, and I have 12 GB.  This is about 10 GB > >> more than Debian needs, unless you

Re: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits

2009-12-13 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 17:40, Celejar wrote: > On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:56:28 -0600 > Mark Allums wrote: > > ... > >> It has triple-channel memory, and I have 12 GB.  This is about 10 GB >> more than Debian needs, unless you are doing a lot of virtual server > > 11.5 GB, at least ;)  I used to (as

Re: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits

2009-12-13 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:56:28 -0600 Mark Allums wrote: ... > It has triple-channel memory, and I have 12 GB. This is about 10 GB > more than Debian needs, unless you are doing a lot of virtual server 11.5 GB, at least ;) I used to (as recently as about a year ago) run with 512 MB, quite happ

Re: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits

2009-12-13 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Mark Allums put forth on 12/13/2009 8:16 AM: > On 12/13/2009 7:00 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: >>> Stan Hoeppner : >>> If you want to stick with AMD, I recommend the following: >>> >>> AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition Callisto 3.1GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache >>> 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 80W Dual-

Re: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits

2009-12-13 Thread Mark Allums
On 12/13/2009 7:00 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: Stan Hoeppner : If you want to stick with AMD, I recommend the following: AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition Callisto 3.1GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N

Re: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits

2009-12-13 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
> Stan Hoeppner : > If you want to stick with AMD, I recommend the following: > > AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition Callisto 3.1GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache > 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103680 > > ASUS M4A785T-M/CSM > htt

Re: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits

2009-12-13 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:32:12 +, amka wrote: > I am going to buy a new computer and wonder what is the best for 64bits. > AMD or Intel ? Both are a great option for 64 bits :-) > Could someone give me please an advice ? > > > I have actualy an AMD Opteron and the idea is, for the moment, t

Re: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits

2009-12-12 Thread Mark Allums
On 12/12/2009 6:32 PM, amka wrote: I am going to buy a new computer and wonder what is the best for 64bits. AMD or Intel ? Could someone give me please an advice ? I have actualy an AMD Opteron and the idea is, for the moment, to buy : - CPU AMD Opteron 1356 - Motherboard

Re: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits

2009-12-12 Thread Stan Hoeppner
amka put forth on 12/12/2009 6:32 PM: > - CPU AMD Opteron 1356 > - Motherboard Tyan Tomcat n3400B (S2925-E) > - MemoryKingston KVR800D2E6K2/4G (2x kit of 2x2GB = 8GB) > > Perhaps somebody have an experience with some of that. Is this for a desktop system?

Re: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits

2009-12-12 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 16:32, amka wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I am going to buy a new computer and wonder what is the best for 64bits. > AMD or Intel ? > > Could someone give me please an advice ? It isn't really in their use of 64 bits that they distinguish themselves. Intel has the performanc

Re: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits

2009-12-12 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis
2009/12/13 amka > Hi everyone, > > I am going to buy a new computer and wonder what is the best for 64bits. > AMD or Intel ? > > Could someone give me please an advice ? > > > I have actualy an AMD Opteron and the idea is, for the moment, to buy : > > - CPU AMD Opteron 1356 > it

Debian 5.0 & 64 bits

2009-12-12 Thread amka
Hi everyone, I am going to buy a new computer and wonder what is the best for 64bits. AMD or Intel ? Could someone give me please an advice ? I have actualy an AMD Opteron and the idea is, for the moment, to buy : - CPU AMD Opteron 1356 - Motherboard Tyan Tomcat n340