Re: Debian and upstream choices

2014-11-04 Thread lee
Chris Bannister writes: >> > man bends down and starts helping him look. After a while of futile >> > searching the man says, hmmm, this isn't getting us anywhere; where did >> > you lose it. The man replies, Further on up the road, but the light's >> > better here." >> > >> > There's not much de

Re: Debian and upstream choices

2014-11-01 Thread The Wanderer
On 11/01/2014 at 10:22 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 01:20:35PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > >> 2014/10/28 20:37 "Chris Bannister" : >>> Now I know what the following joke means: >>> >>> "There is a man on his hands and knees searching around him. A >>> man comes along and a

Re: Debian and upstream choices

2014-11-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 01:20:35PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > 2014/10/28 20:37 "Chris Bannister" : > > > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 08:07:50PM +0100, lee wrote: > > > > > > The point is that I was right and you were wrong. It wasn't right > > > of you to so strongly urge people to "take issues upstr

Re: Debian and upstream choices

2014-10-28 Thread Joel Rees
2014/10/28 20:37 "Chris Bannister" : > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 08:07:50PM +0100, lee wrote: > > > > The point is that I was right and you were wrong. It wasn't right > > of you to so strongly urge people to "take issues upstream". It's not > > as easy to "faciliate change" as you seem to think.

Re: Debian and upstream choices

2014-10-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 08:07:50PM +0100, lee wrote: > > The point is that I was right and you were wrong. It wasn't right > of you to so strongly urge people to "take issues upstream". It's not > as easy to "faciliate change" as you seem to think. Now I know what the following joke means: "Th

Re: Debian and upstream choices

2014-10-27 Thread lee
Martin Steigerwald writes: > Please do not Cc me personally. > > Hello Lee, > > Am Montag, 27. Oktober 2014, 00:05:03 schrieb lee: >> Martin Steigerwald writes: >> > Maybe I failed at avoiding personal attacks, but I still think I didn´t. >> > On >> > any account, my attempt to bring this upstre

Re: Debian and upstream choices

2014-10-27 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Please do not Cc me personally. Hello Lee, Am Montag, 27. Oktober 2014, 00:05:03 schrieb lee: > Martin Steigerwald writes: > > Maybe I failed at avoiding personal attacks, but I still think I didn´t. > > On > > any account, my attempt to bring this upstream did not produce the outcome > > I want

Re: Debian and upstream choices

2014-10-26 Thread lee
Martin Steigerwald writes: > Maybe I failed at avoiding personal attacks, but I still think I didn´t. On > any account, my attempt to bring this upstream did not produce the outcome I > wanted to produce, so I stopped it. Well, remember what I told you? -- Again we must be afraid of speakin

Debian and upstream choices (was: Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD)

2014-10-22 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 13:40:49 schrieb Jochen Spieker: > Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis: > > after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie > > with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided > > the following. In the companie's pc's i support, i'l

Debian and upstream choices

2014-10-22 Thread Martin Steigerwald
I understand people creating new threads partly now, as any thread with the magic word list admins seem to put into the thread filter easily Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 13:40:49 schrieb Jochen Spieker: > Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis: > > after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usab