Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-06 Thread Jeff
Petro, 2002-Jun-05 18:30 -0700: On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 11:56:43PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: Them and everyone else it seems. I gotta wonder if anybody from California ever stopped to think that they're turning Oregon into what they moved away from... If they stopped to think, they

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-05 Thread Petro
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 11:56:43PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: Them and everyone else it seems. I gotta wonder if anybody from California ever stopped to think that they're turning Oregon into what they moved away from... If they stopped to think, they wouldn't be the Californians that

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-01 Thread Jeff
Paul Johnson, 2002-May-31 20 ...caught 23 roughly 14 long brook trout last Monday while everone else was at work... you bastard :-) -- Jeff CoppockSystems Engineer Diggin' Debian Admin and User -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:35:07PM -0700, Jeff wrote: ...caught 23 roughly 14 long brook trout last Monday while everone else was at work... you bastard :-) Not really. The tradeoff is doing 10 hour shifts on Friday and Saturday night. Portland has lots of clubs, but none of them very

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-01 Thread ben
On Friday 31 May 2002 10:52 pm, Paul Johnson wrote: On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:35:07PM -0700, Jeff wrote: ...caught 23 roughly 14 long brook trout last Monday while everone else was at work... you bastard :-) Not really. The tradeoff is doing 10 hour shifts on Friday and Saturday

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 11:39:07PM -0700, ben wrote: all of which goes to explain why you're on the list on a friday night, i guess. Well, even if I was doing what I want to be, sometimes the local furry parties get a little slow for ten minutes or so as people geek out, so I retreat back to

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-01 Thread ben
On Friday 31 May 2002 11:56 pm, Paul Johnson wrote: On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 11:39:07PM -0700, ben wrote: all of which goes to explain why you're on the list on a friday night, i guess. Well, even if I was doing what I want to be, sometimes the local furry parties get a little slow for ten

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-01 Thread Shawn Dunn
On Fri, 31 May 2002 23:56:43 -0700 Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: definitely cute; married to the bass player, in fact. they used to be our personal house band in sf, before they all, almost as one, realized they'd had it with high rent and dotcom okies. Them and everyone else

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 12:24:25AM -0700, Shawn Dunn wrote: Try out Montana sometime, grew up there, and the Californians and Easterners are doing their damnedest to remake in the image of the places they left, and have been for round 20 years or so.. Heh, yeah. I just kinda wish the

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-01 Thread ben
On Saturday 01 June 2002 12:24 am, Shawn Dunn wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2002 23:56:43 -0700 Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: definitely cute; married to the bass player, in fact. they used to be our personal house band in sf, before they all, almost as one, realized they'd had it with

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 01:16:21AM -0700, ben wrote: californian. i think that, in a previous post, where i used the phrase 'dotcom okies,' i should have said dotcom migrants. perhaps i encouraged interstate antipathy by that error. the point is that if i have a grievance No, it was mention

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-01 Thread marshal
Paul == Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul About the only good thing I can say about summer is I'm less Paul likely to get poked in the eye by some tourist prick that Paul doesn't realise it's considered rude to carry an open Paul umbrella in a crowd. Get a raincoat and

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-01 Thread Jeff
Paul Johnson, 2002-May-31 22:52 -0700: On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:35:07PM -0700, Jeff wrote: ...caught 23 roughly 14 long brook trout last Monday while everone else was at work... you bastard :-) Not really. The tradeoff is doing 10 hour shifts on Friday and Saturday night.

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-01 Thread Jeff
Paul Johnson, 2002-May-31 23:56 -0700: Them and everyone else it seems. I gotta wonder if anybody from California ever stopped to think that they're turning Oregon into what they moved away from... -- Baloo No doubt! I'm a native Californian looking forward to the day I can leave

Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Rick Macdonald
Has there been any Debian disscussion about this, official or otherwise? http://computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0%2C10801%2C71535%2C00.html?nlid=AM ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:02:27AM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: Has there been any Debian disscussion about this, official or otherwise? Why should there be? We are already the One True Linux Distribution. 8:o) -- Baloo pgpLNOmDUr8ri.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Rick Macdonald
Paul Johnson said: On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:02:27AM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: Has there been any Debian disscussion about this, official or otherwise? Why should there be? We are already the One True Linux Distribution. 8:o) I wrote to Caldera asking if UnitedLinux is Debian based

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread ben
On Friday 31 May 2002 09:01 am, Paul Johnson wrote: On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:02:27AM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: Has there been any Debian disscussion about this, official or otherwise? Why should there be? We are already the One True Linux Distribution. 8:o) yup. mono-linuxism. debian

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 31-May-2002 Rick Macdonald wrote: Paul Johnson said: On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:02:27AM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: Has there been any Debian disscussion about this, official or otherwise? Why should there be? We are already the One True Linux Distribution. 8:o) I wrote to

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 11:26, Rick Macdonald wrote: Paul Johnson said: On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:02:27AM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: Has there been any Debian disscussion about this, official or otherwise? Why should there be? We are already the One True Linux Distribution. 8:o)

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 31-May-2002 ben wrote: On Friday 31 May 2002 09:01 am, Paul Johnson wrote: On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:02:27AM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: Has there been any Debian disscussion about this, official or otherwise? Why should there be? We are already the One True Linux Distribution. 8:o)

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Grant Bowman
* Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020531 10:01]: On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 11:26, Rick Macdonald wrote: Paul Johnson said: On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:02:27AM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: Has there been any Debian disscussion about this, official or otherwise? Why should there be? We

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Joey Hess
Ron Johnson wrote: Is there a url describing Debian 3.0's conformance with or roadway to conformance with the LSB? http://people.debian.org/~taggart/lsb/ http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/lsbtest/ -- see shy jo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 11:52, ben wrote: On Friday 31 May 2002 09:01 am, Paul Johnson wrote: On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:02:27AM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: Has there been any Debian disscussion about this, official or otherwise? Why should there be? We are already the One True Linux

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 12:07, Joey Hess wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Is there a url describing Debian 3.0's conformance with or roadway to conformance with the LSB? http://people.debian.org/~taggart/lsb/ http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/lsbtest/ Thanks. From

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Walter Reed
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 12:21:37PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: Unfortunately, if I wanted a hamburger in Minnesota in February, you wouldn't fire up your grill. Um, speak for yourself. Grilling is a year-round thing for some up us Minnesotan's! Neither rain nor sleet nor snow shall keep us from

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Grant Bowman
* Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020531 10:15]: Ron Johnson wrote: Is there a url describing Debian 3.0's conformance with or roadway to conformance with the LSB? http://people.debian.org/~taggart/lsb/ http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/lsbtest/ looked at ~taggart/lsb/ lately? It seems to me

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread John Cichy
I'm sure that it won't make a whole lot of difference, but RedHat asked me to fill out a survey last week (I used to run all RedHat servers), I answered the survey and explained that I had converted all my servers (15) to debian because RPM just does not cut it. I would not expect RedHat to

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Joey Hess
Grant Bowman wrote: * Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020531 10:15]: Ron Johnson wrote: Is there a url describing Debian 3.0's conformance with or roadway to conformance with the LSB? http://people.debian.org/~taggart/lsb/ http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/lsbtest/ looked at

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Joey Hess
Ron Johnson wrote: I also see a lot of foo bar not part of debian base install. No problem. To my untrained eye, that looks like a dodge No, it's a recognition of a crummy test suite. The lsb does not itself mention, eg, /etc/gettydefs -- which cannot be a part of debian since the gettyps

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Grant Bowman
* Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020531 11:47]: Grant Bowman wrote: * Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020531 10:15]: Ron Johnson wrote: Is there a url describing Debian 3.0's conformance with or roadway to conformance with the LSB? http://people.debian.org/~taggart/lsb/

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Quenten Griffith
And what exactly is LSB? Grant Bowman wrote: * Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020531 10:15]: Ron Johnson wrote: Is there a url describing Debian 3.0's conformance with or roadway to conformance with the LSB? http://people.debian.org/~taggart/lsb/

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 31-May-2002 Quenten Griffith wrote: And what exactly is LSB? Linux Standards Base. It is defining what a linux distribution has to have. see http://www.linuxbase.org. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread ben
On Friday 31 May 2002 12:29 pm, Quenten Griffith wrote: And what exactly is LSB? [snip] http://people.debian.org/~taggart/lsb/ http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/lsbtest/ you see those linky type things? they're actually addresses you can go to on the web. you know what the web is,

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Quenten Griffith
You know Ben its people like you that make posting anything to newsgroups unenjoyable. I did go to those links and they don't really give a great description exactly what it is. Did someone wake up on the wrong side of the bed or are you always just completely rude to other people? ben wrote:

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Rick Macdonald
Google is so amazing I hardly need to post to lists anymore. Sometimes I try it before looking at man pages. ;-) Entering lsb gives this as the first hit: Linux Standard Base Latest Happenings, About the LSB. Specification Proposals The latest draft of various specification proposals are now

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread ben
On Friday 31 May 2002 01:23 pm, Quenten Griffith wrote: You know Ben its people like you that make posting anything to newsgroups unenjoyable. I did go to those links and they don't really give a great description exactly what it is. Did someone wake up on the wrong side of the bed or are

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Quenten Griffith
To true, I was misspoken I should not of said people like you because it was unfair of me to judge someone just by one post for that I apologize. ben wrote: On Friday 31 May 2002 01:23 pm, Quenten Griffith wrote: You know Ben its people like you that make posting anything to newsgroups

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 31 May 2002 12:59 pm, ben wrote: On Friday 31 May 2002 12:29 pm, Quenten Griffith wrote: And what exactly is LSB? [snip] http://people.debian.org/~taggart/lsb/ http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/lsbtest/ you see those linky type

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Pollywog
On Fri, 31 May 2002 14:18:44 -0700 it was a mild rebuke. things can get quite heated on this list sometimes. on behalf of people like me, don't let it put you off. Yeah I felt like I was taken to the woodshed once or twice this week, but I was not put off by it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread ben
On Friday 31 May 2002 02:52 pm, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 31 May 2002 12:59 pm, ben wrote: On Friday 31 May 2002 12:29 pm, Quenten Griffith wrote: And what exactly is LSB? [snip] http://people.debian.org/~taggart/lsb/

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:52:42AM -0700, ben wrote: yup. mono-linuxism. debian is the standard. unitedlinux is a business venture, that's all. it's like comparing shaolin monks to tele-evangelists. Don't get me started on that Pat Robertson thief...trying to cheat the Red Cross out of

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 10:41:37AM -0700, Walter Reed wrote: Um, speak for yourself. Grilling is a year-round thing for some up us Minnesotan's! Neither rain nor sleet nor snow shall keep us from our appointed burger filpping... :-) Same here with Oregonians. Who needs a patio cover? Grab a