RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-18 Thread Nelson Green
> Hmm... A real serial terminal like a VT100? (I actually still own a > vt102. But it is noisy and slow. Mostly it is my footrest these > days.) Wow, I haven't touched a real VT100 in many years. But I used to service them, so I remember them quite well. What I meant here is the ttys that are lo

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 03:16:55AM +0200, lee wrote: > Nelson Green writes: > > > have no choice but to run a GUI of some type. I would like to learn to do so > > with a minimal footprint if you would be willing to share some tips. I find > > my primary use of the GUI is email, the web apps I hav

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-15 Thread lee
Bob Proulx writes: > lee wrote: >> Bob Proulx writes: >> > For email I use the 'mutt' mail user agent. It is extremely fast. It >> > ... >> >> I totally agree :) And you're definitely going to love gnus! I've used >> mutt for 15 years or so and never could find anything better --- until I >

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-15 Thread Bob Proulx
lee wrote: > Bob Proulx writes: > > For email I use the 'mutt' mail user agent. It is extremely fast. It > > ... > > I totally agree :) And you're definitely going to love gnus! I've used > mutt for 15 years or so and never could find anything better --- until I > tried gnus. Gnus is like th

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-15 Thread lee
Bob Proulx writes: > I used FVWM since somewhere in the early 1990's specifically because > it existed as a fully functional window manager that wasn't changing. > It was stable over decades. Think of the Ubuntu Unity transition, the > KDE 3->4 transition, the GNOME 2->3 transition, all very dis

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Nelson Green wrote: > Hi Bob, > > You bring up an interesting point. I am running XFCE, and that is because > the limited amount of research I did into window managers told me it was > the simplest "complete" solution, and I did not have time to learn how to > configure a simple system. It all de

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-14 Thread lee
Nelson Green writes: > >> From: l...@yun.yagibdah.de >> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >> Subject: Re: Dual-Monitor help >> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 03:16:55 +0200 >> >> Nelson Green writes: >> >> >

RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-14 Thread Nelson Green
> From: l...@yun.yagibdah.de > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Dual-Monitor help > Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 03:16:55 +0200 > > Nelson Green writes: > > > have no choice but to run a GUI of some type. I would like

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-12 Thread lee
Nelson Green writes: > have no choice but to run a GUI of some type. I would like to learn to do so > with a minimal footprint if you would be willing to share some tips. I find > my primary use of the GUI is email, the web apps I have to support, and > Guayadeque for my classical music fixes. Y

RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-11 Thread Nelson Green
> It is something that Debian made up. It sounds better than saying > "large set of heavy and bloated desktop programs". :-) I don't run a > desktop session like GNOME or KDE. Nor LXDE or XFCE either for that > matter. I, and you too apparently, only run the X window system with > a simple window

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-31 Thread Bob Proulx
The Wanderer wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > >The Wanderer wrote: > >>Bob Proulx wrote: > >>>The 'x-session-manager' is a Debian package specific symlink > >>>handle that always points to the currently configured window > >>>manager. I guess I did say "window manager" there. That isn't precisely cor

[solved] RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-30 Thread Nelson Green
> Nelson Green wrote: > > So, my final question is, where is my X11 start-up file? > > There are several different ways to start up X11. Probably the > simplest for you is to create a $HOME/.xsession file. The > xdm/gdm/kdm/lightdm processes will use it if the file exists. Create > it with the fol

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-30 Thread The Wanderer
On 08/29/2012 02:13 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: The Wanderer wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: exec x-session-manager The 'x-session-manager' is a Debian package specific symlink handle that always points to the currently configured window manager. Isn't that 'x-window-manager'? At least, I don't ha

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-29 Thread Bob Proulx
The Wanderer wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > exec x-session-manager > > >The 'x-session-manager' is a Debian package specific symlink handle that > >always points to the currently configured window manager. > > Isn't that 'x-window-manager'? > > At least, I don't have an 'x-session-manager' on m

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-29 Thread The Wanderer
On 08/29/2012 12:29 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Nelson Green wrote: So, my final question is, where is my X11 start-up file? There are several different ways to start up X11. Probably the simplest for you is to create a $HOME/.xsession file. The xdm/gdm/kdm/lightdm processes will use it if the f

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-29 Thread Bob Proulx
Nelson Green wrote: > So, my final question is, where is my X11 start-up file? There are several different ways to start up X11. Probably the simplest for you is to create a $HOME/.xsession file. The xdm/gdm/kdm/lightdm processes will use it if the file exists. Create it with the following cont

RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-29 Thread Nelson Green
> Then for batch mode automated startup I have the following in my X1< > startup file. > > if xrandr --query | grep -q HDMI;; then > xrandr --auto --output HDMI --right-of HDMI< > fi Hi Bob, I've almost gotten everything working, but one question remains. First, I ended up removing the two Qu

RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-27 Thread Nelson Green
> Also, consider using a backported kernel (with xorg and mesa) instead a > self-compiled one. > I am certainly willing to try that. Thanks for the suggestion. > > I would center first in getting the correct driver to be loaded and then > go with the dual card setup. Good luck then and report b

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-25 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:22:26 -0500, Nelson Green wrote: (...) >> Some unordered/random/quick thoughts... >> >> 1/ There seems to be a problem with the driver. As you are using >> Squeeze with nvidia cards, the driver to load should be either >> "nouveau" or "nv" but no "fbdev". My will guess is t

RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-24 Thread Nelson Green
> From: nelsongree...@hotmail.com > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: RE: Dual-Monitor help > Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:16:03 -0500 > > > > Unfortunately, lxrandr only shows the single monitor. Another issue I > &g

RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-24 Thread Nelson Green
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > From: noela...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: Dual-Monitor help > Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 17:20:04 + > > On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:13:36 -0500, Nelson Green wrote: > > > I have been trying t

RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-24 Thread Nelson Green
> Unfortunately, lxrandr only shows the single monitor. Another issue I > have is nothing from xrandr nor lxrandr shows an output interface. If > I could get that information I might at least have a place to start. OK, I feel dumb. I was just setting up a VM, and the output of xrandr is similar.

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-24 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:13:36 -0500, Nelson Green wrote: > I have been trying to get a dual monitor set-up working, and am getting > no where with this, so it is time to request help. > > I have a Dell Precision T5500 with dual video cards, and I would like to > have one large screen spread across

RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-24 Thread Nelson Green
> It is possible that the 'nouveau' driver doesn't do dual monitors with the > Quadro > 600 cards. i am not to good with these things, looks like it tries 'nouveau, > vesa & FB, and fails. , > > I do run a Quadro dual port card, I use the 'nvidia' driver, the xorg drivers > do > not work with my

RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-24 Thread Nelson Green
> Nelson, > Do you have a xorg.conf file or do you let X sort it all out itself? I > noticed from your xrandr posting, that only one resolution is defined > so maybe it's hard coded. I run without a conf file X seems to pull > everything correctly for my hardware. I am still kinda green

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-23 Thread Greg Madden
On Thursday 23 August 2012 1:41:37 pm Nelson Green wrote: > > > Nelson, > > > Did you install the driver package? Either xserver-xorg-video-nouveau > > > or xserver-xorg-video-nvidia (open and closed driver respectively) from > > > apt or download and installed from Nvidia's site? > > > > > > Sha

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-23 Thread Shane Johnson
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Nelson Green wrote: > > > > > Nelson, > > > Did you install the driver package? Either xserver-xorg-video-nouveau > > > or xserver-xorg-video-nvidia (open and closed driver respectively) from > > > apt or download and installed from Nvidia's site? > > > > > > Shane

RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-23 Thread Nelson Green
> > Nelson, > > Did you install the driver package? Either xserver-xorg-video-nouveau > > or xserver-xorg-video-nvidia (open and closed driver respectively) from > > apt or download and installed from Nvidia's site? > > > > Shane > > I sure did: > $ dpkg -l | grep nouveau | cut -d " " -f 3 > libd

RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-23 Thread Nelson Green
> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 14:32:59 -0600 > Subject: Re: Dual-Monitor help > From: s...@rasmussenequipment.com > To: nelsongree...@hotmail.com > CC: b...@proulx.com; debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Nelson, > Did you install the

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-23 Thread Shane Johnson
Nelson, Did you install the driver package? Either xserver-xorg-video-nouveau or xserver-xorg-video-nvidia (open and closed driver respectively) from apt or download and installed from Nvidia's site? Shane On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Nelson Green wrote: > > > Nelson Green wrote: > > > I ha

RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-23 Thread Nelson Green
> Nelson Green wrote: > > I have a Dell Precision T5500 with dual video cards, and I would > > like to have one large screen spread across the two monitors. > > I usually do this with a single graphics card. So my suggestion might > not be useful to you. But... > > > I am not sure where to sta

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-22 Thread Bob Proulx
Nelson Green wrote: > I have a Dell Precision T5500 with dual video cards, and I would > like to have one large screen spread across the two monitors. I usually do this with a single graphics card. So my suggestion might not be useful to you. But... > I am not sure where to start. One thing I h

Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-22 Thread Nelson Green
Good evening all, I have been trying to get a dual monitor set-up working, and am getting no where with this, so it is time to request help. I have a Dell Precision T5500 with dual video cards, and I would like to have one large screen spread across the two monitors. The graphics cards are nVidi